FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, and NC State. FSU and Clemson for viewership and SEC fit. Virginia Tech and NC State for SEC type fan base and additional territory for the SEC.

Clemson fsu Virginia tech and Mc state are sec type

UVA and UNC are not cultural fits for the SEC. VA Tech and NC State are

Part of me wants the SEC to bring in their four big rivals who are in the ACC currently (FSU, Clemson, Louisville, Ga Tech). That would create some nice in-conference rivalry games every year with four opponents who are regularly good enough to go to at least decent bowls. And if the the conferences keep getting bigger, it may get harder to schedule out--of-conference games from another major league every single year, so this move would protect these historical games.

Great show. I'd like to see Clemson, North Carolina, Oklahoma State and Kansas. This would help SEC basketball while still helping football stay a top tier conference.

FSU wanted to get in the SEC, repeatedly but rebuffed for a variety of reasons. FSU was a girl’s school, the SEC already had a Florida team, FSU wasn’t good enough on and on. In 1992, the ACC offered membership and suddenly the SEC took notice. At that time basketball money was better than football money because there was no playoff. The ACC had a better academic reputation. The SEC made a late offer and rescinded the offer once they found out FSU was going to the ACC. Coach Bowden joked about getting a natty was easier in the ACC than SEC. There’s always truth in jest. SEC fans hated that.

Miami has fair weather fans and barely 20 fans show up to home games. The only time the game is sold out is when FSU goes down to play.

John is saying that the SEC is very football focused and would be looking at another football program before looking at a basketball program. However, the UNC community is convinced that the SEC has enough football schools and that they are next going to hotly pursue them to improve in basketball and that UNC would greatly benefit the academically weak SEC. I will be curious to see what direction the SEC goes and if UNC is their top target as is being reported.

Duke would actually be a great future investment. Duke's new AD since she came from ND has renovated the football stadium and is serious about imporving the football program. Something we've seen in recent years. They have a lot of upside and certainly improves basketball for the conference. If you keep adding all these football schools (Texas, OU, FSU, Clemson) you certainly need someone who can bring you value somewhere else. You need a Vandy with value somewhere else. With this new era of CFB and paying players, Duke with SEC $$$$ could become competitive. Not to mention you keep the greatest basketball rivalry of all time in the SEC and the conference would have three of the biggest basketball bluebloods. The added media value for that could be large.

There is nothing southern about Pittsburgh.

Clemson, FSU, VT and WVU!

North Carolina-Oklahoma State-Virginia tech -FSU-Clemson

The SEC will not let two big brands from FSU or Clemson escape them. That's the only teams the SEC will choose. Otherwise, they'll stay at 16.

Virginia or Virginia Tech North Carolina Clemson and Florida State make 20

GOR for ACC is not until 2036 , it’s to 2027 and ESPN has a look in clause that can take it to 36 if they choose to

Circuit Judge Cooper in Leon County aka Tallahassee has now ruled that The Florida State University vs ACC Case belongs in Florida. Then he went further in ruling that should Miami decide to sue the ACC, their case too should be in Florida. I am paraphrasing “The ACC is doing business in the State of Florida. College Football is a business. It is a big time business that involving $ billions & the ACC is subject to Florida Law”. He laid out supporting Florida Statues & threw in some North Carolina Statues (law) to further support his decision. The term “Sovereign Immunity” was not said. *There are only 20 Circuit Judges in Florida & there are none more Powerful than the 2nd Judicial Circuit Seat in Florida’s Capital City aka Leon County. There are Items that may come before a County Judge or another Circuit Judge that will be mandated to be sent to Leon County. Any Extraordinary, High Profile, Government or Government Entity are sent before the Leon County Circuit Judge. Once a decision, ruling, or Judgement made by Circuit Judge Cooper carry’s the full weight of a “Appellate Court Decision”. The only place left to appeal is the Florida Supreme Court. They may decide to let Judge Cooper’s judgement stand. He is known for being a no nonsense, rooted in the law, and not having his decision’s over turned. I am a Seminole so don’t kill me. Those hoping for a long trial are out of luck: Judge Cooper, “I have a lot on my plate, besides this case”. *Think of “Al Gore vs George Bush” as a perfect example of what type of Case the Leon County Circuit Judge will receive; because, the vote counting/ hanging chad issues were in Palm Beach. The wheels of realignment maybe sooner than later. (I hope this helps in understanding Florida Court system works). 🇺🇸

Duke is a joke

The SEC does have a full share pro rata in their two media contracts with ESPN but it’s contingent on the SEC only bringing in two schools at a time. Unless ESPN changes that contingency, there will be multiple expansion sequences for the SEC coming in pairs.

I don't see FSU too SEC

Eff the SEC and ESPN. Overrated BS is what the SEC is. Who the hell roots for a damn conference?