told you jon wasn't dead.

“A 16 seed has never beaten a 1” said Jon as five days later a 16 proceeded to beat a 1.

So much has changed since this vid came out. 2 16 seeds won and the nationals made a World Series run.

[Stares directly at Oral Roberts on the winless list] "Aight"

“Nationals never won a playoff game” Me here post 2019

When this vid is outdated after six days bc of UMBC

Damn, Oral Roberts and St. Peters must be terrible in March Madness every year

You've missed a glaring reason as to why the 8 or 9 gets an easier team in the Sweet 16 than the 4 or 5. Because to get to the Sweet 16, the 8 or 9 has to have BEATEN the no 1 in the round just before, so they will never play the no.1 in the Sweet 16. Look at the statistics for the Field of 32. I haven't seen them, but I can almost guarantee that the 8 or 9 team has the worst winning percentage in that specific round because they always play the no 1 team. The whole tournament is specifically designed so that the 1-8 seeds make it to the Field of 32 and 5-8 get knocked out, then 1-4 make it to the Sweet 16 and 3-4 get knocked out, etc. Looking at the winning percentage of a certain placed team in one specific round is always going to give you these sorts of statistics.

Virginia definitely watched this before the game

"#1 seed first round win %: 100% #16 seed first round win %: 0%" *coughs*

Coming back to this video during 2022 March Madness and not even seeing St. Peter’s on the beginning list speaks to the tournament’s bewildering randomness

I'm back now that every professional team has won a playoff series

"The king has returned."

I see a Chart Party....then I remember why statistics still matter.

In 2020 everyone lost in the tournament.

That’s cray that the Wpg Jets, Blue Jackets, and Nationals ALL won last year. SUCH LOW ODDS!!!!!

Theoretically, anyone can win the NCAA basketball tournament. All you have to do is win all your games. However impossible that might seem, theoretically, you can do it. There are many college football teams who cannot win the college football playoff. Not even if they win all their games. Because some committee says so. Give me the dream.

*Sees another lame KZfaq notification* *Glances at it unenthusiastically* "SB Nation just uploaded a video: Something something Chart Party" *Panics and rushes to see the return of the legend*

Bernie Sanders: it is unacceptable that the top 4 pah-cent of March Madness teams account for 58 pah-cent of Final Four berths. Under a Sanders administration, the top 4 pay-cent will pay their fair share of losses

Whoever is watching this video in 2019 the Nationals have now won a playoff game

Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.

Jon, of all the praises sung for Chart Party, here's one I don't see often: the 90s office/muzak feel is incredible. I don't know why it fits so well, maybe it makes me feel like I'm a pencil pusher in some magnificent universe of sports KZfaq content, but it's just brilliant.

don't mind me, just casually rewatching for the 50th time since it's almost time for march madness I did realize though that due to conference tournaments where basically every team plays, come the end of the season, out of over 300 D1 schools...only one (or maybe a few more) schools end the season with the win...the rest, all end the season with a loss...Harsh.

Just an update, the Jets AND Blue Jackets have now both won in the NHL playoffs, making the Nationals the ONLY professional sports team to NEVER advance in the playoffs.

My father has come back

the reason re-seeding is bad is because if the worst team upsets the best team they've EARNED the right to play what would have been the top team's easier bracketed opponents. If you beat #1, you become #1, in essence.

Cross Oakland, James Madison, and Grand Canyon off the list.

0:21 Oral Roberts was hiding in plain sight the whole time

Ain't no party like a chart party 'cause a chart party is both informative and entertaining.

YESSSSSD MORE JON BOIS

0:19 *Florida Atlantic* just got into the Final Four.

It makes sense though that a weaker seeded team will have an easier time post sweet 16. They would've already had to defeat a 1 or 2 seed (in the case of seeds 7,8,9,10), prior to the sweet 16, so the most difficult opponent is out of the way

this is the only reason I have notifications on

The reason an 8/9 plays a weaker seed than the 5 in the sweet sixteen is because they already beat the 1 seed just to get there. They played a stronger seed in the round of 32. They’ve earned it haven’t they? Now you reseed and make them play a 2 seed the very next game?

5 years later one of those teams that never won an NCAA tournament game just made it to the final four

This is also what makes this tournament so great. It is arguably the hardest tournament to win.

The double digit seeds end up with an "easier" path later on in the tournament because if they can mount that first big upset, they basically jump into the higher seeds path. A 13 plays an easier game in the 16 because they're not suppose to be there, they took that spot for the 3.

Jon bois is literally the best part of sb nation

I was wondering why a 5 seed has never won the tournament but lower seeds have. And now i realize its because they run into the 1 seed in the sweet 16 every time

Who noticed that UMBC is in the right colum of teams who have never won a round of 64 game

*sees buffalo on the list of teams that have never yet won in the tournament* Welp this is already outdated

Ain’t no party like a chart party

"Reaching the Final Four is virtually impossible, eh?" - Loyola Chicago

0:20 Farleigh Dickinson. Another name stricken off the list.

The goat of youtube is back

YOURE BACK ITS BEEN SO LONG

Keep coming back to this video every year to see how many teams i can cross of the list lmao In 23: belmont(first four),buffalo, farleigh dickinson, fau, houston, liberty, marshall, north texas, oregon state, oral roberts, rutgers, st peter’s, semo (first four) tamu-cc(first four) ucf, umbc and wofford. Crazy how many different teams win each year, and how new teams either promoted from d2 or former contenders falling off take their place among the losers

Some important notes, per chart at 5:10 - In 33 seasons, there are 660 seeds 6-10 and 128 made the Sweet 16, giving them a 19.4% chance of getting there. In 33 seasons, there are 396 seeds 3-5 and 174 made the Sweet 16, giving them 43.9% chance of getting there. And to make the Elite Eight, it's 7.4% for seeds 6-10, and 15.4% for seeds 3-5. Considering the average seed of seeds 6-10 is 8, and the average seed of seeds 3-5 is 4, you'd expect around half the chance of seeds 6-10 making any given round vs. seeds 3-5. In fact, the actual odds, as shown above, are LESS than half as good for seed 6-10 to make either Sweet 16 or Elite Eight than a seed 3-5. This does show that talent is just a slight bit top-heavy, which to me is unsurprising. All this chart shows is that IF....and it's a big IF....IF a team seeded 6-10 makes the Sweet 16, they have slightly better percentage odds of winning THAT PARTICULAR game than any seed 3-5 in a Sweet 16 game.....but they make it so much less often, it doesn't even make a significant dent in the overall odds of making it to the Elite Eight. It's definitely a parity-booster, as evidenced by the slightly better relative odds of seeds 6-10 vs. seeds 3-5 in making the Elite Eight vs. the Sweet 16 (19.4% / 43.9% = 0.44, 7.4% / 15.4% = 0.48). Stats are fun.

*Sees Chart Party, clicks without thinking*

One issue with comparing the 8/9 seeds versus the 4/5 seeds in the Sweet 16. For an 8 or 9 seed to even *get* to the Sweet 16, they would have had to beat the #1 seed already. So complaining that they have an easier road after the first weekend is true but a bit disingenuous.

Take Fairleigh Dickinson off of this list!

Teams that have now won a game that were on this loser list: Oral Roberts, UMBC, Houston, North Texas, Oregon State, and Rutgers. This is just off the top of my head.

Finally, I found Jon Bois.

The problem with basing the argument on the fact 8th and 9th seeds do better in the sweet 16, is that you're pre-selecting for teams that necessarily already played and beat the 1 seed. So that means that they're better than the average 8 or 9 seed, and also that they already have had a harder route than most teams.

What if the NCAA intentionally mis-seeded teams to create upsets because: 1.) upsets are better for t.v. ratings 2.) upsets destroy a lot of brackets thereby reducing the odds that someone will win whatever bracket challenge some company is doing

After 2017, here are the teams that proceeded to win a game in the March Madness Abilene Christian (2021) Buffalo (2018) Fairleigh Dickinson (2023) Florida Atlantic (2023) Grand Canyon (2024) Houston (2021) James Madison (2024) Liberty (2019) Marshall (2018) North Texas (2021) Oakland (2024) Oral Roberts (2021) Oregon State (2021) Rutgers (2021) Saint Peter’s (2022) UC Irvine (2019) UCF (2019) UMBC (2018) Wofford (2019) If there are more teams that I missed, let me know and I’ll edit the comment

CAPITALISM JON BOIS. IT REMINDS ME OF CAPITALISM. I AM SOUNDING OFF

I came back yesterday from a 2 month break of sb nation. No Jon Bois. I was disappointed. And then this happened

And now Saint Peter's gets their first Dub in the Field of 64

Who’s here after Farleigh Dickinson beat Purdue?

DADDY'S HOME

I hate the idea of re-seeding teams midway through a tournament in any sport at any level. The random/luck/chaos found in sports helps keep it so exciting. A 16 upsetting a 1 deserve the 8 or 9 they get next.

2:20 Sometimes a very good team gets derailed by an injury to one of its better players. The 06-07 Wisconsin Badgers were a top-5 team through almost the entire year, then Brian Butch broke his elbow against #2 Ohio State. That Wisconsin team was a 2 seed and had its season end in the Second Round to 7-seed UNLV (which promptly got showed the door in the Sweet Sixteen by Oregon and Tajuan Porter). 30 wins and out; it was a bitter ending to a very good team.

Almost forgot to watch this again this year

UMBC has taken themselves outta the loser machine

COMRADE BOIS! I KNOW WHAT THIS TOURNAMENT REMINDS ME OF!

I think I’ve left basically this same comment on all your other videos, but I *love* that mournful melody that begins at 1:00 (or maybe 1:01) and ends at around 1:15 You have good taste in music! This time, I will read the credits at the end of the video, so I can find out where this tune of lovely sadness came from.

A 16 seed can have an easy route bc if they win in 1st round, they get the path a 1 seed is supposed to get

JON BOIS

Okay I'll bite. March Madness is the American Sports equivalent of the Hunger Games.

Jon, please do Chart Party full time. It is the best thing on KZfaq, and you owe it to yourself to keep producing this incredible content

This needs a Redux or update of some sort. Its still MOSTLY true but a few MAJOR things have happened in 6 years

That ending. My goodness this man is well versed in every subject. Jon you truly are a god amongst men

Re-seeding is absolute bullshit. I hate the concept. If a 16 seed manages to upset a 1 seed, don’t they deserve to stay on that easier path?

The curious thing for me is the 10/11/12th seed increases in win rate in the round of 32. The 10th seed has to beat the 7th seed to advance to the round of 32, then will face the 2nd or 15th seed. Since the chart shows how low the win rate for the 15th seed is in the first round, it will be almost always the 2nd seed. Yet somehow the win rate for the 10th seed actually increases against the 2nd seed. Meanwhile, a 14th seed team has to beat a 3rd seed to make it to the round of 32, then faces a 6th or 11th seed, yet the win rate decreases for this 14th seed from the first to the second round.

Watching this in 2022 during St. Peter's run.

Well hey, everybody, we've got a fax.

It reminds me of every single cup competition ever! Everyone can enter, but very few teams has a legit chance at winning!

I watch this video once every three months just to remind me how incredible it is. THIS IS MY FAVORITE VIDEO ON KZfaq.

WHOS HERE AFTER #2 KENTUCKY JUST LOST TO ST PETERS?

No. Not a familiar concept at all. Now I'm off for an evening of eating truffle fondue and throwing coins at the poors.

Just an update at 0:36. The Winnipeg Jets not only won a playoff series, but made it to the conference finals. The Columbus Blue Jackets shocked the world by beating the Tampa bay lightning in 4 last year. Lastly, the nationals not only got their first playoff win, but they got a World Series. So, officially, every team part of the four major sports have won a playoff game. 122/122 teams are winners in a playoffs game. Makes the NCAA look worse 🙂

That music at the beginning... it's like I'm entering a film noir scene. I love it.

Man, I’m really glad I discovered your videos. Great stuff!!

Gonna have to delete this after that umbc win

Who's here after the FDU win against Purdue?

My alma mater's basketball team, the Winthrop Eagles, went into the tournament as an 11 seed in 2007, where they proceeded to beat 6 seed Notre Dame to become the first Big South school to ever advance to the Round of 32. As of 2023, this is still the only tournament game they've ever won.

Being a Colgate fan they came sooooo close this year to beating Wisconsin. Only losing by 7.

But an 8 or 9 would have already beaten the 1 in order to make the sweet 16. That's their reward

A couple of thoughts: On the percentage of teams who have never won in the playoffs since 1985: There is no mechanism to enforce parity in the NCAA. Players are free to go to any school they can get into. North American professional sports have rookie drafts and spending restrictions to manufacture parity. While some teams become dominant for a time, that comes from having the best managers of rules and limited resources. On reseeding: This would cause more travel. That's enough reason for schools to not want it. Say you're the 10 seed, you beat the 7 seed in Dallas, everyone else in your region goes chalk. You suddenly have to catch a flight to LA to play the 1 seed because you're the lowest seed left. Meanwhile, that 8/9 seed who won their matchup has to catch a flight the other way to meet the 2 seed in Dallas. Only a few schools would be secure in their travel plans. Pro sports reseed because of their desire to confer advantages on teams who did better in the regular season based on objective criteria. The Tournament brackets are built on opinions and rules that restrict who plays whom and where and the madness that ensues is a feature the NCAA markets. The Tournament can (and this year, did) let in an 18-14 school on a 4-11 skid based on perception of their conference and not weighing the 4-11 late-season spiral and turn their noses up at a 27-5 school because they're aligned in the wrong conference and didn't win its postseason tournament.

With the stats for the big four: by the end of 2019 the only MLB team to not win a series now has a championship, the two NHL teams have won at least one series each, and a new NHL team entered the league and immediately won three series.

This could be said for Loyola Chicago they played a #6, #3, #10, #9 on route to the Final Four

15 and 16 have lower 'difficutly' to the finals since they beat the first or second spot, in their first round to advance. From there, all the strong opponents are no longer in their bracket; since the number 1 seed would have the easiest matches (and hence, the teams which are nearer to the bottom). So if you, as a low-ranked team, beat the number one seed, you get to play teams which may be better, but it should be the 'next worst team to survive', which will be near your own seed level.

Time to cross off St. Peter’s from that list.

I absolutely love the 90’s feel and look of chart party. It’s wonderful

A few of these have changed at 0:24 Buffalo - 2018 & 2019 vs Arizona and Arizona State Fairleigh Dickinson (If First 4 Counts) Houston - 2018 & 2019 as a 6 seed and 3 seed past 2 yrs Liberty over Mississippi St 2019 Marshall over Wichita State 2018 Rutgers May win a game in 2020, 17-7 currently St. Bonnaventure (First 4 vs UCLA) UCF beat VCU with the legend himself, Tacko Fall UMBC If you know you know! Virginia will have eternal embarrassment until someone chokes more Wofford beat Seton Hall in 2019. If I missed any or stuff changes in 2020 lemme know

Oral Roberts changed that lmao

Jon has this weird curse of jinxing an event incredibly close into the future. The time he jinxed 40-39 "never happening again", and here, when he says a 16 never beats a 1. 5 days later, the 16 has in fact beat the 1.

Swiss system is pretty good. I made a 256 double elimination bracket seeded the same way the March madness tournaments are and progressed the bracket with the ruling that the lower number would always win. Obviously this leads to seeds 1 and 2 playing in the winners and grand finals. Also seed 3 plays seed 2 in the losers finals. But certain seeds made it much farther than they should have so that the top 8 contenders weren’t actually 1-8. I believe 64 was somewhere within the top 8. It’s even worse when you put them in a row 1 plays seed 2 round 1 and 3 vs 4 and so on. This lead to top eight for winners side having seed 128 appear. The point of these was I was seeing how accurate tournaments held in the FGC (fighting game community) actually are to showing who’s a better player (ignoring the paper rock scissors aspect of it all) because I’d seen a few top 8’s with some questionable match ups going on... Also found that best of (insert number) for a match in a set that’s best of (insert number) sometimes makes it possible for the loser to have more wins than the winner. In street fighter if you do a set of 3 matches and each match has 3 rounds.. the winner has to have won 4 rounds (at the least) to have one. The lose can have won 4 rounds at the most and still lose. Match 1: 2-1 Match 2: 0-2 Match 3: 2-1 When it turns into best of 5 matches (as it does in the finals) still with the best of 3 rounds for each match the loser can actually win more rounds than the winner. Match 1: 2-1 Match 2: 0-2 Match 3: 2-1 Match 4: 0-2 Match 5: 2-1 This is 6 rounds won by the winner and 7 by the loser... which leads me to believe in that situation the losing player is actually better.... I get why it’s done in such a way, because of things in the game like meter and time management as well as character selection, pacing etc... still seems a little sketchy when the loser wins more than the winner. Same with a best of 7 in a basketball tournament if the losing team has scored more points. I’m not yet familiar enough to racing to know for certain how the point system works, but I do believe it’s designed in such a way that points are awarded each lap based on position, there’s point for the fastest single lap, then points for the end race position that carry on for the next race in the cup so that by the end of the cup all the stats are combined to determine who was actually the best racer. It could potentially be someone who never finished above 10th place simply because all his stats combined ends up with his average points per race being higher than everyone else. I need to watch racing more...

I literally watch this video every year before the brackets come out. We neeeeeed an updated chart party for march madness!