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Secure Storage of Non Restricted Firearms- Canada

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Civil Advantage

Civil Advantage

Күн бұрын

The law....Good review if you have a slippery memory...
I am not a lawyer, Canadian Firearm Regulations are ALWAYS subject to change and interpretation. I am passing on the information I am given by the Canadian Firearm Program and the RCMP. It is YOUR responsibility to verify the information and keep current on any changes.

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@ohdamnitsthatguy60
@ohdamnitsthatguy60 7 жыл бұрын
Locks only keep honest people out.
@BenDover-069
@BenDover-069 7 жыл бұрын
I am glad that I do not need a Trigger Lock to keep my rifles in a locked case .... That is good news !!!
@C4N4DI4N
@C4N4DI4N 6 жыл бұрын
Honest people and maybe your kids. These laws save lives.
@bradchirdaris2190
@bradchirdaris2190 5 жыл бұрын
No they do keep bad people out too
@notlikely4468
@notlikely4468 4 жыл бұрын
Oh so true.... Me? I trigger lock my rifles in a locked plastic case....inside a locked school locker Bolts out in a separate locked ammo case (hidden) Never the less....my 16 year-old son could access a workable firearm in....5 min? Cats paw and a hammer....
@1911GreaterThanALL
@1911GreaterThanALL 4 жыл бұрын
@@C4N4DI4N Teach your kids how to safely handle firearms. Secure your firearms prior to them being ready to learn.
@1966cambo
@1966cambo 4 жыл бұрын
Had the “left the bolt at home “ thing happen on a hunting trip, good thing there was a back up rifle along! No more bolt removal!
@nacholibre1962
@nacholibre1962 8 жыл бұрын
A locked room is also legal. My gun room has a combination lock on the door and it contains all of my firearms and ammo.
@duanemousseau3699
@duanemousseau3699 5 жыл бұрын
Cops told me if there are windows you require secure bars on the window.
@billybob945
@billybob945 4 жыл бұрын
@@duanemousseau3699 those are cops and not informed gun owners who in general don't know gun laws intimately in my opinion.
@jointaimbot55
@jointaimbot55 4 жыл бұрын
james k he is right though.,...
@intox69
@intox69 4 жыл бұрын
Non-Restricted Storage Must be unloaded. Must be secured by a locking device so that it cannot be fired or must be locked into a room or container that is hard to break into. Exception: An unloaded non-restricted firearm can be stored temporarily (separate from ammunition) if it is needed for predator control. Vehicle storage: Gun must be locked in the trunk area or other similar compartment. If vehicle does not have such a compartment, the firearm must be put out of sight and the vehicle locked securely.
@sachiekat1238
@sachiekat1238 8 күн бұрын
​@@intox69 So yeah a padlocked room works
@linden618
@linden618 4 жыл бұрын
Gone are the days when dads loaded shotgun was off limits and you DIDN'T touch it.
@BRAVO0NETV
@BRAVO0NETV Жыл бұрын
Well yeaaaa!!!
@benjamincrooker2533
@benjamincrooker2533 4 ай бұрын
Don't touch my car doesn't work either. And as far as that goes don't touch any of my s*** doesn't work. Cuz we don't have to teach our children not the touch what don't belong to them, no matter what all right!!!😠
@leighmcm
@leighmcm 6 жыл бұрын
I think you should make a vidieo on "Don't get me started.
@findyourinnertube124
@findyourinnertube124 5 жыл бұрын
Nice summary Rod. It can be a confusing subject in Canada, especially when you have restricted vs non-restricted, and some "logically-challenged" regulations. Thanks.
@bobo42024
@bobo42024 10 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have been looking for videos like this for some time. A lot of American gun laws on KZfaq , but not many Canadian. Thanks a bunch! SUBSCRIBED!
@blankreg9890
@blankreg9890 7 жыл бұрын
Another thing about trigger locks - if you have a bunch of them and they're not of the same brand, it's possible to get 2 sides that lock in to each other, that don't have any numbers/combination on either side; meaning, you've got a trigger lock on your gun that you can't get off without drilling and cutting it off. Now when I'm at the range, I always put the 2 correct sides back together as soon as I take them off then gun.
@mymicks21
@mymicks21 6 жыл бұрын
It says on the RCMP site that a locked cabinet or room is also within the law. It doesn't need to be an expensive safe.
@ameyaarondekar7938
@ameyaarondekar7938 4 жыл бұрын
C Delany room can’t have windows though, so under stairs section with locking door works just fine
@sachiekat1238
@sachiekat1238 8 күн бұрын
​@@ameyaarondekar7938 or barred windows
@nahockey1
@nahockey1 10 жыл бұрын
rod you are such a boss, really appreciate all the informative videos you have put out for us canadians :) cheers and happy new year good sir
@blainegurrie7525
@blainegurrie7525 8 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Rod, free education is the best kind.
@CanadianPrepper
@CanadianPrepper 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@brianveitenheimer4492
@brianveitenheimer4492 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Had firearms since childhood and raised on a farm. In the early 90s because of regulations, kids and life I sold off my guns. Now 25 years later urged by my wife I got my PAL and rearmed again for recreation, hunting and protection. Not really knowing the practical side of the new regulations your videos as basic as they are explain the convoluted Canadian regulations well. Thanks.
@TRaTSeRiF
@TRaTSeRiF 10 жыл бұрын
Rod, some of us aim for bare legal compliance, so trigger locks (only on my restricteds) are set up to barely meet the legal definition. Combination, easy sequence, mostly intact, so it's a couple of clicks away from being made safe and holstered (yes, I'm talking restricted - I've never put a trigger lock on a non-restricted). Our laws are already insanely draconian and if we keep going above and beyond, the law enforcement community will start to expect that of us and will push for more bending over. Those who don't bend over enough will be punished by process (legal fees). If a criminal has enough control over your gun to take possession of it, load it, and attempt to cycle the action, it being trigger-locked or cable-locked would be the least of your concerns.
@TRaTSeRiF
@TRaTSeRiF 10 жыл бұрын
Of course, holstered only at the range when allowed to do so or at home when doing dryfire practice.
@jhanks2012
@jhanks2012 4 жыл бұрын
the thing about draconian gun "laws" is they are only able to be enforced by some firearm owner actually capitulating to them. that is inherent to the nature of firearms themselves...
@Rokonroller
@Rokonroller 7 жыл бұрын
All information is good information when it comes to safety!👍 thanks!
@JustinTurnerman
@JustinTurnerman 6 ай бұрын
Personally I like to have a lock on the gun no matter where it is . Safe or not. You never know if your kids or someone finds out your code and accident happens. More is better in my opinion.
@ajshdhenskaka
@ajshdhenskaka 6 жыл бұрын
Magazine under the pillow 9mm on the bedside table Come at me Trudeau.
@williamdunmire6392
@williamdunmire6392 5 жыл бұрын
You'd be taking charges on the chin and getting everything confiscated
@1911GreaterThanALL
@1911GreaterThanALL 4 жыл бұрын
Hold my AR-15.
@2DEEPMUZIKK
@2DEEPMUZIKK 4 жыл бұрын
It's not even Trudeau, yeah he's opposed to guns but he's actually a great prime minister. I'd vote conservative if they gave a shit about my disabilities. Politics in this country are a joke anyway. Majority of voters don't even research what they're voting for. Also lots of older people just vote for who they've BEEN voting for all along. The young and educated are completely misguided so they're no help. People shit on Trudeau, when he is getting Canadians home right now and giving us extra money if we need it during a crisis. What conservative government would be helping my LOW-INCOME family out during this pandemic without cutting every service to do so. Liberal means for the people, conservative is for the STATE.(Don't mean state as in US, I mean state as in government body) Only thing I don't agree with is banning assault weapons and handguns. Other than that, long live a government who actually takes care of people, rather than helping the middle-class exclusively and talking shit about rival parties.
@azazelone905
@azazelone905 4 жыл бұрын
D Shack that’s hilarious buddy!😆
@KaliBlaz
@KaliBlaz 10 жыл бұрын
wildlife protection = ok wild humans protection = prison time god bless Canada
@aweaeawwfwawe7394
@aweaeawwfwawe7394 9 жыл бұрын
yup, the laws are designed to disarm you, and to turn you into a victim. working as intended in Kanada
@willwrayy
@willwrayy 9 жыл бұрын
i dont know man, someones in my house in the middle of the night and you pop a shotgun shell in their knee caps, i would take that one to court
@spammed999
@spammed999 9 жыл бұрын
Nob Gobbler are you serious? you shoot when you need to. what if theres a bunch of thugs armed in your house? scare them, with your gun, if they charge shoot em to bits.
@willwrayy
@willwrayy 9 жыл бұрын
spammed999 we don't need "thugs" on this earth. specially ones fucked up enough to rob houses
@Eddie_Gee
@Eddie_Gee 8 жыл бұрын
+big Zini best to be judged by 12 then carried by 6
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying these laws for me. Geez I've been told all kinds of 'options' by guys whom I though knew what they were talking about. Now I know that I've been doing it correctly all along. I have subscribed to your channel as of right now. I did poke a bit of fun at you on the Norinco CQA review, but it was in fun . I have found that dealing with one particular company here in 'Canada' has been a lesson for others in " SERVICE", and that Chinese guns need to be cleaned just like all the others. I too, love 'em. Thanks for all your reviews, I like these too.
@DYLANJJK94
@DYLANJJK94 4 жыл бұрын
I somehow misread the law and went back to it after I saw the restricted firearms version of this, It made sense reading it after that video, Even firearm articles said you need to lock your gun and ammo in different rooms, Now I know that’s not the case 100 % of the time.
@Freedom-xp1db
@Freedom-xp1db 8 жыл бұрын
I bought a gun over the summer got it home from the store and realized they forgot the trigger lock on it and long story short a metal drill bit does the trick in about 10 seconds
@notlikely4468
@notlikely4468 4 жыл бұрын
Or...just unscrew the trigger guard... They really are just a band-aid measure Kind of like a breach flag on the range...you COULD cut the post off and walk around with a round up the spout But...why?
@Freedom-xp1db
@Freedom-xp1db 4 жыл бұрын
not likely how I did it took less than 5 min
@cruickshankoutdoors7575
@cruickshankoutdoors7575 4 жыл бұрын
(1) An individual may store a non-restricted firearm only if (a) it is unloaded; (b) it is (i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device, (ii) rendered inoperable by the removal of the bolt or bolt-carrier, or (iii) stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and (c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into. My interpretation of the laws is that you must follow (i) AND either (ii) or (iii), meaning two locks. 2 locks NR, 3 for R
@zav75
@zav75 Жыл бұрын
Actual law Unload and lock your firearms Store the ammunition separately or lock it up. It can be stored in the same locked container as the firearms. Locking part Attach a secure locking device, such as a trigger lock or cable lock (or remove the bolt) so the firearms cannot be fired; or Lock the firearms in a cabinet, container or room that is difficult to break into.
@556Outlaw
@556Outlaw 10 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the lock on your door to your house count ?
@civiladvantage
@civiladvantage 10 жыл бұрын
Only a little...
@tnastycuzz4031
@tnastycuzz4031 4 жыл бұрын
FACTZ
@airval
@airval 4 жыл бұрын
Ppl inside can also access, front lock not sufficient
@marknieuwejaar1075
@marknieuwejaar1075 3 жыл бұрын
@CDN Sniper 911 dude not open fire...
@willyb933
@willyb933 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Rod! very comforting.
@slyfly4829
@slyfly4829 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I lost all of my guns today and they were ordered to be forfeited and destroyed. Back story. Last November I posted a tutorial on an sks take down. I posted the video on my Facebook. My ex girlfriend called the police on me saying that my guns were unsafely stored n that I was dangerous. The police came into my house after seeing the video of my torn apart gun(was not yet reassembled. But was apparently capable of firing even with the trigger assembly removed) And they took it along with all my other guns. My other guns were all in a safe. The judge said since I had a teenager in my house who could reassemble the gun n use it for harm. That all my weapons should be destroyed. My license revoked. And I was to pay a fine. They took 9 guns. Even the ones with trigger locks. N fur what ever reason have me 8 months probation. The law is so corrupted. This costed be well over 10k.
@jeffmwoods
@jeffmwoods Жыл бұрын
that is a pretty devastating situation. they do what they want when they want. when it comes down to it, the law is basically one sided.
@omniferousswan593
@omniferousswan593 6 жыл бұрын
If you forget your code on a trigger lock you can just try all 1000 combinations. It would only like like 10-15 minutes.
@LudovicP
@LudovicP 2 жыл бұрын
who forget his code tho
@michaelweedmark2774
@michaelweedmark2774 10 жыл бұрын
removing the bolt is great for a mosin nagant, it just slides right into the carrier when you need it!
@marcjampolsky5280
@marcjampolsky5280 8 жыл бұрын
I doesn't have to be a safe.... a gun cabinet or even a locked room or closet to store firearms is also legal. Basically, anything locked is treated the same way whether it's made of metal, wood or plastic.www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm"Lock the firearms in a cabinet, container or room that is difficult to break into."
@Xachremos
@Xachremos 4 жыл бұрын
Would the tactical wall mirror thing count? Thought that was pretty damn cool
@bmxriderforlife1234
@bmxriderforlife1234 2 жыл бұрын
The idea behind the bolt being removed is for multiple guns and easier storage. Remove all ammo from room. Guns with bolts go into one safe properly secured. Other guns remove the bolt put the bolt or firing pin into another safe lock that in the safe with your other guns. Now you can display your other guns on a rack as storage but they are non functional.
@dingbing6138
@dingbing6138 10 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks for clearing everything up.
@moonbot1683
@moonbot1683 Жыл бұрын
I believe that contradicts it's use for self defense.
@ScorpionCA
@ScorpionCA 3 жыл бұрын
I always heard that you don't actually need any lock when storing "under the bed" though, but was just highly recommended, although, that may have just been here say from my buddies
@DaDaDo661
@DaDaDo661 3 жыл бұрын
If it's not in a locker/vault then it needs a trigger lock. The only time it doesn't need a trigger lock is when you are transporting it in your car. Non restricted of course
@eastcoastmod
@eastcoastmod 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks...much clearer than reading the law..
@ComedicGrahamCracker
@ComedicGrahamCracker 5 жыл бұрын
I pray for a time in Canada where we have the same gun laws as america
@dosmundos3830
@dosmundos3830 4 жыл бұрын
lol @ the useless power of prayer. you're better off moving there
@ComedicGrahamCracker
@ComedicGrahamCracker 4 жыл бұрын
@@dosmundos3830 Truee, sadly not a option at the moment lmao
@marcjampolsky5280
@marcjampolsky5280 8 жыл бұрын
I doesn't have to be a safe.... a gun cabinet or even a locked room or closet to firearms is also legal. Basically, anything locked is treated the same way whether it's made of metal, wood or plastic.www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm"Lock the firearms in a cabinet, container or room that is difficult to break into."
@joebob2436
@joebob2436 9 жыл бұрын
I have seen a few comments on this topic that no one replied to about is it legal to store non restricted firearms in a locked wooden case? Be a huge help if someone could get an answer because I can't seem to find one. Great videos and amazing help! Keep up the good work!!
@Benny1581
@Benny1581 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a question - the firearms act states that firearms must be stored in a manner (safe) that is "not easily broken open or into" ... who determines what is easy to break open?
@AlwaysSeekKnowledge
@AlwaysSeekKnowledge 4 жыл бұрын
A criminal judge after you spent hundred of thousands of dollar in lawyer fees to protect yourself from the "punishment by process" method.
@Mrzoux1
@Mrzoux1 2 жыл бұрын
The subjective judgment of the police officer that comes knocking;)
@user-yb3zc8ni7c
@user-yb3zc8ni7c 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO 5:48 is inside joke that all Canadian gun owners will understand.......
@justauser
@justauser 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@neverenoughadventure
@neverenoughadventure 4 жыл бұрын
self defense? but its not a legal reason in canada?
@1911GreaterThanALL
@1911GreaterThanALL 4 жыл бұрын
No, Americans think Canadian gun laws don't make sense as well.
@mouthbreather280
@mouthbreather280 3 жыл бұрын
@neverenoughadventure Legally it is valid, bureaucracy says no.
@Mrzoux1
@Mrzoux1 2 жыл бұрын
@@neverenoughadventure Nononono you should almost never use a gun in self defense in Canada. You're better off just running and praying. According to my interpretation of the law (aka DO NOT RELY ON MY COMMENT, read the law yourself), the only time you could get away with the use of a firearm in self defense (only non-restricted though) is if you reasonably (so that could vary from judge to judge since it's subjective) believe that someone is about to kill you and you have absolutely nowhere to go and absolutely nothing else you can go. Even then ya might go to jail:)
@DevNullCyber
@DevNullCyber 9 жыл бұрын
Perhaps its answered somewhere in the comments but a cable lock isn't going to work in all cases...over/under shotgun comes to mind. Good videos you folks put together though!
@largerPOTATO
@largerPOTATO 9 жыл бұрын
You can get ridiculously long cable locks. But for a over/under & side by side a trigger lock is the next best thing. That being said. I once had a mini strong-box that I stored all my keys in. For whatever reason I threw it out when I was cleaning. Frustrating yes, but it took me less then 15 minutes to unlock 7 guns with both cable and trigger locks. Your best bet is a safe. Even with that though. Unless your safe is inside Fort Knox, that safe can/will be broken in to if a person has the skill/time/determination to do so. But that stands for pretty much everyphysical item in this whole world.
@rjstewart
@rjstewart 8 жыл бұрын
+largerPOTATO Depending on the design, a lock around the body of the firearm that prevents it from being closed might work as well. I'm thinking of a long padlock.
@gr8sl8m8
@gr8sl8m8 8 жыл бұрын
i have 44 trigger locs and most are key... my buddy who got his pal finely retrieved some fire arms that were confiscated from his dad... well he got the guns back but didnt have the keys for the locks... they were masters... well i tried every master key i had an was able to wiggle the key enough to unlock it. :D i guess master can only have so many patterns before they get a close repeat...
@l3eaver
@l3eaver 4 жыл бұрын
Cable lock also allows would be thief’s that stole your weapons... quick and easy access
@jeffgranger1837
@jeffgranger1837 9 жыл бұрын
Very insightful and good knowledge
@fredi22322
@fredi22322 4 жыл бұрын
Simple and complete video, very very good, im only wondering if the case needs to have a lock or if only closing properly is considered locked
@scottsc63edwards86
@scottsc63edwards86 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are by law to lock your ammo.
@rw7594
@rw7594 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Just not within easy access unless it is stored with the firearm eg a locked container or safe. Page 199 of the course handbook. Also on page 93. 😁 I lock my ammo anyway. An adult can cut the box but it keeps a kid out for those who habe them and parents aren't good at teaching or discipline.
@keithmoriyama5421
@keithmoriyama5421 5 жыл бұрын
The proper way to use a trigger lock is to lock the unit while lose, then close it tight.
@justonfreeman7452
@justonfreeman7452 5 жыл бұрын
My understanding of safe storage for UNRESTRICTED firearms is that they need to be stored UNLOADED with a minimum of ONE lock... locked vehicle, locked house, locked room, locked locker, locked safe, trigger lock or action lock. Ammo must be stored separately unless it is locked in the same case as the gun... which can be everything mentioned above EXCEPT trigger or cable locked firearms. Am I wrong on any of that?
@outdooraddventure
@outdooraddventure 2 жыл бұрын
I take it a step further I put the firearm in the case put a locking device on the firearm and still lock the case
@1madmaxx80
@1madmaxx80 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. They're just plastic cases. With combination trigger locks it isn't too bad.
@aadam-kz5my
@aadam-kz5my 7 жыл бұрын
Rod, can you make a video on where, except for the shooting range you can shoot a non-restricted firearm? Are out of the city limits farms or privately owned land ok or just the woods during hunting season?
@PrismUniverse
@PrismUniverse 6 жыл бұрын
On crown land or private property
@burtonkidd
@burtonkidd 5 жыл бұрын
as stated on private property 200m away from any roads or houses
@pranays
@pranays 5 жыл бұрын
Confederates morons can't shoot anywhere in Canada.
@Mrzoux1
@Mrzoux1 2 жыл бұрын
@@burtonkidd Only 200m really? I thought I read like no buildings in a 5km radius or something absurd like that
@Mustang94c
@Mustang94c 6 жыл бұрын
Glad i live in nh legal to have quick access to a loaded firearm in the desk or night stand and to use it in self defense
@LudovicP
@LudovicP 2 жыл бұрын
how many time it saved your life and how many child died from a loaded firearm left alone ?... thats why
@wanderingaloudwithmark3057
@wanderingaloudwithmark3057 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rod just took your course and still refreshing my memory. Never enough education. Great course by the way. What are your thoughts on the ZORE locking device?
@mwtd320
@mwtd320 9 жыл бұрын
do the green gun safes that use a key (usually sold at Canadian Tire for around $200) count as gun safes? or are they considered something else as there is only sheet metal and a key lock?
@MrStinky2011
@MrStinky2011 10 жыл бұрын
Great videos, my fav. channel.
@dosmundos3830
@dosmundos3830 4 жыл бұрын
can you touch on the subject of antique gun storage laws in Canada? particularly spur trigger revolvers.
@ardennielsen3761
@ardennielsen3761 6 жыл бұрын
i don't know about 4 digit code locks, as if you are diligent it could be opened it 12hours and 30minuets were as a 4 digit 60 number dial lock would take a solid week with no brakes, assuming you can turn the dial vary fast a good dial lock has 4 digits and 100 numbers to bring it up to 1.5 months with no brakes.
@misterfabricator
@misterfabricator 10 жыл бұрын
There is also something about living outside the city and storing it like a farmer and shooting the big bad wolf. But that might ALSO get people in trouble
@jwbooth666
@jwbooth666 10 жыл бұрын
awesome video,man!
@blainvance409
@blainvance409 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information, much needed
@peterharder2027
@peterharder2027 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the information, now I notice it’s been 8 years ago since this video posted, so I assuming it’s still the same thing today or pretty much ?
@mikazuki4168
@mikazuki4168 6 ай бұрын
I was under the conception you needed a safe bolted down.
@teddynaicker2997
@teddynaicker2997 6 ай бұрын
That's totally up to you. That's not the law but choice. By mounting or bolting down the cabinet is also a way to buy more time from it being stolen quickly.
@jeffreyvanarkel6347
@jeffreyvanarkel6347 8 жыл бұрын
Is everyone crazy. ...lock on a gun that you need for self protection. lol. Great ideas guys.
@CrysisMachinima
@CrysisMachinima 8 жыл бұрын
Well the interesting thing is they don't specify where you need to keep the key, so technically you could keep it right with the locked firearm. I wouldn't but it is interesting how the key is never mentioned.
@michaelshapiro1543
@michaelshapiro1543 8 жыл бұрын
1. Yes it's crazy, but 2. this is CANADA, where protecting yourself in any circumstances, especially with a TOOL or weapon of any kind, is so frowned upon by the Government that it is actually ILLEGAL. Sauve qui peut...?
@zXToThaFaceXz
@zXToThaFaceXz 6 жыл бұрын
Wonder why they don't have nearly as many armed robberies as the US? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@canadianplinker9011
@canadianplinker9011 6 жыл бұрын
actually there have been a few cases where people shot people in home defense in Canada and got equitted of all charges
@JamesPawson
@JamesPawson 6 жыл бұрын
Skinny Bob, yeah, and in those few rare cases, the Canadian mainstream media (especially The Toronto Star) tried to spin it as a travesty, a miscarriage of justice, etc-- as if the people defending themselves had gotten away with murder. And the press was damn sure to give the names and personal details of the people who were defending themselves. |Oh, and don't forget how much these folks had to pay in legal fees-- it's not like you are going to get away with defending yourself with a firearm if you don't have a lot of money to spend on lawyers and all the rest of it. Anyhow, it's not like this is a uniquely Canadian problem; look at the crap gun owners go through in Minnesota and other very liberal states. And at least we are no where near as bad as the UK... they are just mindbogglingly insane when it comes to charging people who are defending themselves or their property-- even if it's just with a stick or a cricket bat or whatever, never mind firearms.
@joshbarracosa5173
@joshbarracosa5173 3 жыл бұрын
So ammo and rifle can be stored in a case like this if it's locked?
@michelaudette695
@michelaudette695 2 жыл бұрын
This video dates back 7 years, with different modifications having been made since, is this info still valid?
@funkinyourtrunk1978
@funkinyourtrunk1978 5 жыл бұрын
what if i build a secure room with a good padlock on the door? can that room be considered my gun safe?
@jesselloyd207
@jesselloyd207 4 жыл бұрын
yes 5 (1) (b) (iii) stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into;
@Seekingtruth-mx3ur
@Seekingtruth-mx3ur 4 жыл бұрын
Jesse Lloyd is there a 2020 update to these regulations?
@Seekingtruth-mx3ur
@Seekingtruth-mx3ur 4 жыл бұрын
Jesse Lloyd is the cable lock on a non restricted put in a closet fine?
@jesselloyd207
@jesselloyd207 4 жыл бұрын
@@Seekingtruth-mx3ur There are no changes to the storage regs so far in 2020. A cable lock, if used properly so you can't close the bolt, is fine on a non-restrict... so long as there is no ammo "readily available" for that specific gun. Most people understand that as ammo stored in a different room, but it's how ever the police want to interpret "readily available" since there is no definition in the code. The idea is that if the cops need to enter on a no knock, you won't have time to load the gun.
@yeet7082
@yeet7082 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect thank you. For option 4 Does it have to be a gun safe or any type of safe?
@GetUrPhil
@GetUrPhil 7 жыл бұрын
In one other video of yours 'Legal Transportation of a non-restricted firearm''. You mentioned that you can put it in the back seat, covered and not locked. So, Why would you have to lock up a non-restricted firearm at your home?
@MrRapZap
@MrRapZap 6 жыл бұрын
Because its the law.
@juliogonzo2718
@juliogonzo2718 6 жыл бұрын
Q.C. Phil I think it is to deter impulsive use, also to prevent children from using them. Don't know why it can be unlocked in vehicle. Unattended it has to be in locked compartment (trunk) or in cabin of vehicle with doors locked out of sight if no separate locking compartment.
@stratulatus
@stratulatus 4 жыл бұрын
There is a contradiction between storing and transporting NR. You said when transport your unloaded NR rifle just throw it in the trunk with no locking device on. When stored under your bed unloaded ( with ammunition away in different room ) you mentioned the locking cable to be on ? why ?
@bullbars1822
@bullbars1822 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know why bull-pup centerfire firearms are legal to purchase/own and why bullpup pellet guns aren't legal to purchase. Example: FX Wildcat which is longer than 26 inches even without the stock. I would love to have one in 30cal. for when I go for walks in the bush just for protection.
@aCloudOfHaze
@aCloudOfHaze Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rod!
@grimmerMD
@grimmerMD 10 жыл бұрын
I never ended up actually doing my PAL and getting a legal firearm, but I have, and am currently studying far too much statute and caselaw (lawschool will do that to you) and was under the impression that under Firearms Act S.5(a)(b)(c), any firearm must be unloaded, rendered inoperable, and locked in a secure container, so "it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into". That is unless one is in an area in which the firearm may be needed for defense of predators or one is in the wilderness and is hunting (in accordance with all applicable federal, provincial, and municipal legislation of courses)(S.5(2)(iii)). So apparently, unless one is up in the boonies, he must keep his firearm unloaded, inoperable, and locked up very securely. I've only got a 2009 version of the act here infront of me, so it may have changed, and I'm pretty sure you would know more than I. I'm just curious about the discrepancy between statute law and your advice. Or maybe I just didn't pay enough attention...;P
@civiladvantage
@civiladvantage 10 жыл бұрын
www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
@grimmerMD
@grimmerMD 10 жыл бұрын
Civil Advantage Thank you, that makes it much clearer. The way the law itself is written gave me the impression that all safety measures had to be taken. My mistake. Great videos btw. Even though I'm not a gun owner, I still find your vids interesting and well done.
@OrionStarLike
@OrionStarLike 10 жыл бұрын
Hey is there a way you can make a video about legal transport of both classes of firearm? Thanks
@fernandosamf1185
@fernandosamf1185 11 күн бұрын
A crime is an act that Happens , not before it happens . Guns are not a crime , nor are they a crime about to happen . One could say that of anything a piece of wire , or a kitchen knife , a towel etc. Etc. A car . They could do some pretty stupid things with anything ,not just a gun .
@sharpen-up
@sharpen-up Жыл бұрын
Has any of these laws changed in the intervening years? Can you still store ammo in a safe box with an unloaded firearm? Things have just changed so quickly up here in Canada, I want to make sure I'm still following the law
@awalt26439
@awalt26439 6 жыл бұрын
Good presentation, thanks.
@Kid_Kootenay
@Kid_Kootenay 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video it cleared up a bunch of stuff, one question though ammunition can it be stored in a lockbox like one of those fireproof document safes?
@holmes1978
@holmes1978 6 жыл бұрын
Could you please do the updates for 2017 please !
@TheVokrat
@TheVokrat 6 жыл бұрын
As far as I know everything is the same when it comes to storage your firearms in Canada.
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 3 жыл бұрын
All that's changed is what guns go where (restricted, prohibited, non-restricted) and the way the Mounting Police change their interpretations the video would become a monthly series!
@DB-bx7hv
@DB-bx7hv 2 жыл бұрын
Is the chiappa 12 45-70 classed as non restricted and therefore able to take camping, the chiappa has a 12 inch barrel 👍🇬🇧
@shabadooshabadoo4918
@shabadooshabadoo4918 5 жыл бұрын
do you have to plug an electronic safe into a wall to use it? or does it depend on the batteries not wearing out?
@AutoStigmata
@AutoStigmata 10 жыл бұрын
You're allowed to leave a non-restricted gun without a lock in a locked room. Also, anyone know if keeping ammo for a gun in its side saddle or other cartridge holder counts as being loaded? I was recently told that it is illegal to keep ammo attached to an unloaded gun even if it is locked in a safe.
@ak4344
@ak4344 10 жыл бұрын
I looked into that a couple weeks ago and as far as I know its ok but I'd imagine theres a lot of yahoos out there that would fine you for it.
@civiladvantage
@civiladvantage 10 жыл бұрын
The locked room thing is true. I don't talk too much about that because it get's people into trouble. "Oh, I keep my bedroom door locked all the time...except this time. Any possible way you'd let me off this charge Judge"?? That kind of thing. Law enforcement is also aware of the storage methods I mentioned so if they're not sure about what you've done they'll recommend charges and let the crown sort it out. You don't want that....
@a420man2
@a420man2 5 жыл бұрын
My firearms are stored in a locked room with a deadbolt. Not easily broken into They have cable locks on them too. Ammo in the room. I also have the pamphlet from CFSC on safe storage tacked to the wall inside. If ever a problem with cops, they can read that.
@ScorpionCA
@ScorpionCA 3 жыл бұрын
my idea was always just putting them all in a locked closet, it is hard to break into and it is a locked room so I think I could store the ammo in there too (I don't because all the times I looked it up it was vague answers and I am not about to catch that case)
@apriliarsvrmille
@apriliarsvrmille 10 жыл бұрын
Love your VIDS keep them comming.. what about a soft case with the zippers locked together, still ok?I have a case with my sub 2000,tavor and kriss V all non-R. thx
@civiladvantage
@civiladvantage 10 жыл бұрын
I'll find out about that...
@apriliarsvrmille
@apriliarsvrmille 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you. keep up the good work.
@Slaytanic454
@Slaytanic454 10 жыл бұрын
Civil Advantage I'm also curious about this. A locked soft case seems like it would be less secure than a locked hard case, but both are really just minor deterrents. I bought a Benelli MR1 that came with a really nice soft case. I have all of my guns in a gun safe at home, and ammo locked up in a separate steel cabinet, but I just wonder for transport. Regardless, I also always transport every gun with a locking device (Trigger/cable lock), but on the off chance that I might forget to put one on there...
@chrisfournier6144
@chrisfournier6144 4 ай бұрын
Trigger locks can be easily defeated with a butter knife. No need to drill them out but they aren’t exactly Fort Knox secure!
@NorthernExposureATV
@NorthernExposureATV 7 жыл бұрын
I called the fire arms center and asked if I could leave my guns unlocked in my room...i was told that as long as I have two locks its legal...so i asked if that ment the lock on my front door and the lock on my bedroom door and i was told thats fine with the exception of ammo. whats your take on that?
@scottwooder9772
@scottwooder9772 Жыл бұрын
What about storing an unloaded firearm in a locked room? Does it matter if a shotgun is disassembled?
@patamaran
@patamaran 6 жыл бұрын
please for the love of god mention which big box store i can get a sweet case like that for 30 bucks lol on a serious note, does ammo have to be stored in a different room, or can it just be out of sight like in a drawer or somewhere not immediately available.
@fuckjewtube69
@fuckjewtube69 3 жыл бұрын
Different room. The whole point of it is so you can't load a firearm quickly not so someone else can't. Canada doesn't like it when you defend yourself from intruders.
@1966cambo
@1966cambo 4 жыл бұрын
I heard people that live rural are allowed to have quick access to a loaded firearm in order to protect their animals from predators, can you tell me if that is legal? Thanks for the great videos!
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 3 жыл бұрын
I think you're mixing a couple things: Firstly this only applies to NR guns (2) Paragraph (1)(b) [basically what is covered in this video] does not apply to any individual who stores a non-restricted firearm temporarily if the individual reasonably requires it for the control of predators or other animals in a place where it may be discharged in accordance with all applicable Acts of Parliament and of the legislature of a province, regulations made under such Acts, and municipal by-laws. [that means not necessarily wilderness areas, but also in a city or town where it is legal for a citizen to discharge a weapon against a predator, you do not have to lock it: 1(a) you still have to unload it and 1(c) ammo cannot be readily accessible to the firearm] (3) Paragraphs (1)(b) and (c) do not apply to an individual who stores a non-restricted firearm in a location that is in a remote wilderness area that is not subject to any visible or otherwise reasonably ascertainable use incompatible with hunting. [applies not just to predator control, but all activities associated with hunting] [1(a) still applies: it still must be stored unloaded]. [Hinges on the judge agreeing that hunting is the only reasonable use of a firearm where you are...] I'm not a liar but nor am I a lawyer, so don't quote me. My NR gun is cable locked at all times I'm not shooting it if able. I don't even have an R-Pal because between the slimy law and the slimy cops, that's trouble I can't afford.
@ohy2266
@ohy2266 6 жыл бұрын
Does ammo need to be in a different room? Or say ammo locked up in one maybe cheaper safe, guns locked in another and both in the same room. I just want to know if theres ways to store ammo without it being at another location and without a massive safe to store ammo in that you also trust to protect your firearms.
@carterbyers6172
@carterbyers6172 7 жыл бұрын
I thought even though you have got guns in a safe that ammo still has to be stored separate? Has this changed or can I have it all in one safe?
@wikikomoto
@wikikomoto 5 жыл бұрын
is this up to date? have the laws not changed at all since 2014?
@true_canadian1015
@true_canadian1015 8 ай бұрын
Can you keep nonrestricted fire arms that are locked up in a safe at someone else’s house even if you have the only key??? someone like a trusted family member?
@anthonyjopse9231
@anthonyjopse9231 3 жыл бұрын
"rifled" through the comments and didn't see my question so here it goes. Can you store your firearms in the safe with ammo on the rifle in a shell holder? Not loaded of course and my safe is live tri-locking/2 dead bolt fireproof if that matters. Seems a pain to have to reload a shell holder everytime before hunting. Cheers!
@DaDaDo661
@DaDaDo661 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's fine. The gun is not loaded.
@stickynicky7395
@stickynicky7395 10 жыл бұрын
I made my own gun cabinet out of wood, and if somebody really wanted to they could just take the screws out of the hinges and walk away with my guns. There is a lock on the doors though so does this apply to the 4th method? I have cable locks on all my bigger guns (12 gauge, 270, and SKS) but do I legally have to? Or does this count as a gun safe?
@texnwar
@texnwar 7 жыл бұрын
Drill the trigger lock? Pick it in seconds with two bobby pins :)
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr 3 жыл бұрын
As someone else said: Just unscrew the trigger guard.
@highlightedcomment
@highlightedcomment Жыл бұрын
With undercover snouts circling the block 24/7 365 how is this not a police state to avoid...
@BigLisaFan
@BigLisaFan 2 жыл бұрын
I use trigger locks and a gun safe.
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 7 жыл бұрын
many police stations in America give out free locks
@mdarks4117
@mdarks4117 11 ай бұрын
If I buy a hard case like that, store a shotgun and ammo. Does it need a pad lock or just use the case’s clamp locks?
@LiaIanKai
@LiaIanKai 3 жыл бұрын
Do these rules still apply in 2021? Is it still legal to store this way?
@byever1
@byever1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TexasConstantine
@TexasConstantine 9 жыл бұрын
A couple questions: Can a vehicle's locked trunk be used for storage? Would having a firearm in a locked case change this? Does a disassembled AR-7 meet the requirements of "removing the bolt", for storage regulations?
@aweaeawwfwawe7394
@aweaeawwfwawe7394 9 жыл бұрын
a locked vehicle becomes the secure container.
@civiladvantage
@civiladvantage 9 жыл бұрын
A vehicle is still a vehicle. It's not storage. You can leave a non-restricted firearm in an unattended vehicle if the firearm is unloaded, the firearm is in the trunk (if you have one) or out of sight (if you don't have one) and the doors have to be locked.
@aweaeawwfwawe7394
@aweaeawwfwawe7394 9 жыл бұрын
Civil Advantage Well I don't know if it is considered not in storage, because it certainly is not being transported. But yes if the vehicle is locked and the NR firearm is out of sight and unloaded it does not need to be trigger locked. A locked vehicle acts the same as a safe.
@hottieprowelder
@hottieprowelder 10 жыл бұрын
ok so I understand to store in a safe the safe has to have 5 pins? espically for handguns,thats if you wanna have loaded mags.
@civiladvantage
@civiladvantage 10 жыл бұрын
Never heard of that ever.
@adrianlarkins7259
@adrianlarkins7259 9 жыл бұрын
Any firearm should be kept in a safe or gun cabinet. It might be legal to just put it in a locked case under the bed but that's no good if the burglar simply walks off with it and breaks it open in the privacy of his own home. Regardless of the law, common sense should dictate. Believe me, going to the police to tell them your gun has been stolen is a very unpleasant feeling. I know. It happened to me many years ago.
@Mrzoux1
@Mrzoux1 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! What happened exactly then? What did you do?
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