See You Next Mirror: Exiles #1-61, Part 2 - Atop the Fourth Wall

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7 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara looks at the first 61 issues of the series Exiles!
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Originally released March 6th, 2017.
ORIGINAL INFO: The first part of a retrospective on the dimension-hopping series Exiles!

Пікірлер: 321
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 7 жыл бұрын
"A Nazi vampire even. Which gives him a +2 villain bonus for wanting us to see him get his ass kicked." I mean, you're not wrong, it worked pretty well for Hellsing Ultimate.
@otakon17
@otakon17 7 жыл бұрын
But the colonel wasn't really a vampire....
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 7 жыл бұрын
I think you mean Captain.
@dart5340
@dart5340 7 жыл бұрын
Actually its The Major. The Captain was furrier.
@mlovecraftr
@mlovecraftr 7 жыл бұрын
It was very funny when they mentioned it in What We Do in the Shadows
@concordiaharmony2302
@concordiaharmony2302 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized that this series is how DBZ Xenoverse should have handled it's missions. Have your character go into the ALTERNATE WORLDS THEMSELVES.
@darylchurch2115
@darylchurch2115 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@joeljames2683
@joeljames2683 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what any of that means, but if it’s an excuse to bash Dragon Ball, I’m all in!
@concordiaharmony2302
@concordiaharmony2302 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeljames2683 okay so DBZ Xenoverse is a game all about your own original character going through and fixing time. What it amounts to is just replaying the DBZ Story when they could do all sorts of nutty things.
@joeljames2683
@joeljames2683 2 жыл бұрын
@@concordiaharmony2302 Sounds like Japan to me. Can’t have any crossovers without an original character to draw attention away from the characters we actually WANT to see interacting.
@concordiaharmony2302
@concordiaharmony2302 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeljames2683 well no see that's the opposite problem. I wanted to see my OC interacting with the ALTERNATIVE timeliness. I want to see my character take on a ginyu possessed vegeta in the main story, or experience the ramifications of Cooler appearing on earth during the Android stuff or the likes. He'll why not have a few missions where we team up with the VILLAINS because the heroes didn't lose at the right points, like the idea of Goku surviving the blast that killed raditz and thus being unable to grow stronger with King Kai. I can only think of one time they do something really cool with the idea of history changing significantly, and that's when Cooler appears on Namek to help Frieza. But I think thats the only time something like that happens in the game that directly interferes with the main DBZ plot. Your character feels less like the main character and more like a background character. Up until the endgame at least from my experience.
@LoganDX1990
@LoganDX1990 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know why I just love the "beware the timebreaker he is not what he seems" line because I love how the bad guy was someone you always trusted all along. Making the story more ominous and creepy.
@rtv190
@rtv190 7 жыл бұрын
I think Spiderman going "you da man" is the greatest thing since Doctor Doom's derp face
@stampede274
@stampede274 7 жыл бұрын
Fun trivia: Kulan Gath is one of those characters Marvel created as part of a licensed property that they later incorporated into the main Marvel universe. He was originally created as a Conan villain. Conan. As in, the Barbarian. The arc that introduced him into the main Marvel universe also had Mary Jane Watson briefly become a reincarnated Red Sonja, which in a just universe would have become permanent.
@dannyfenlon2476
@dannyfenlon2476 5 жыл бұрын
in that universe mary jane transforms into red sonia and stabs mephisto over and over
@mitchfletcher2386
@mitchfletcher2386 5 жыл бұрын
@@dannyfenlon2476 HOW DO I FIND THAT UNIVERSE?!?!
@darylchurch2115
@darylchurch2115 3 жыл бұрын
Why did that not become a permanent thing!? Creators kept wanting to get rid of her because they thought she was boring, why not make her modern Red Sonja!?
@jfdrac
@jfdrac 3 жыл бұрын
@@darylchurch2115 Simple answer is they didnt have the rights to Red Sonja...unlike Kulan she belonged to its creators and eventually they had to give her back ...Plus at the time they LIKED MJ
@crystalhydra4779
@crystalhydra4779 7 жыл бұрын
15:24 So Spiderman has been turned into a less crazy version of Carnage
@bowenorcutt78
@bowenorcutt78 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, that bit with alt. spidey talking like deadpool gives me an idea for a comic storyline: deadpool "dies", becomes a ghost, and spends several months possessing characters in other books. Basically that thing Diamanda Hagan did a while back, BUT WITH DEADPOOL!
@FinnishFilmFan
@FinnishFilmFan 7 жыл бұрын
Bowen Orcutt So basically Deadpool as Deadman? That could be funny.
@bowenorcutt78
@bowenorcutt78 7 жыл бұрын
Fictional Finn Hell, yeah! Imagine deadpool as thor or hulk. that'd get messy pretty fast.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 5 жыл бұрын
@@bowenorcutt78 But if he lands in a female body, would he want to leave? ALSO, if the book wants to become darker they could say Deadpool does his usual escpdes, BUT in the process ruins the life of a good man, and feeling guilty, deadpool decides to be more careful about his powers. also at one point, the one he possesed, SPOT him, so now he has someone chasing him
@TitaniaBird
@TitaniaBird 7 жыл бұрын
The Timebreakers? So the Exiles are gonna meet up with Towa, Mira, and Bardock?
@incitossol
@incitossol 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Keil And vegeta. Ya got to love Dragonball Fanservice the game I mean Heroes.
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I hope for their sake they don't need to deal with Final Form Mira, that was a pain and a half.
@NintendoHighSchool
@NintendoHighSchool 7 жыл бұрын
They have to face the ultimate challenge: DUMPLIN'!
@dannyfenlon2476
@dannyfenlon2476 7 жыл бұрын
Team Rocket i rather fight puddin
@hiropisku1078
@hiropisku1078 7 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Demigra was behind the whole Exiles Comic series and just wanted to do since he was the Demon King
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 7 жыл бұрын
This retrospective is really fun
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 7 жыл бұрын
indeed
@brianlewolfhunt
@brianlewolfhunt 4 жыл бұрын
When I first listened to this episode and got to the butterfly effect thing caused by eating the last danish and my mind decided to come up with how that happened. It turned into a wonderfully convoluted story involving a pregnant military woman forced to go look for a danish at a different store, noticing and preventing a mugging and thus saving a few kids, one of those kids would grow up to be a superhero, and that superhero would inadvertently do several things that would make earth more well prepared to fight the alien invasion, including getting wealthy businesses to sponsor superheroes and get them better equipment, and saving a member of that alien race who turned traitor on his own kind and gave earth a lot of advance warning. It was a fun thought experiment.
@user-ManofStyle1
@user-ManofStyle1 7 жыл бұрын
I just got it, Hypireon has transformed in to evil Onepunch-Man.
@user-ManofStyle1
@user-ManofStyle1 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Chirino 100 push-ups, 100 destroyed cities, 100 killed people, and sex wth psychotic Ms Marvel EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!
@samboujaiteh3331
@samboujaiteh3331 7 жыл бұрын
Arkady Son of Light No, he's the Plutonian, but less interesting.
@kyriss12
@kyriss12 7 жыл бұрын
Sambou Jaiteh finaly someone else who's read irrideemable.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 5 жыл бұрын
@@kyriss12 i have heard of it, but i stil wonder how they extended the story through 30 or more issues. ALSO i want to belive Plutonian reincarnted as the inspiration of Superman in an alternate multiverse, but not our unierse
@kyriss12
@kyriss12 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 Sadly they didn't extend it very well. That's pretty much my one complaint about the series, is that the writer spent so much time upping the stakes after every arc, that he painted himself in a corner, and had to pull a deus ex maachina out of his ass to finish it.
@bryanadkins6776
@bryanadkins6776 7 жыл бұрын
"A more psychotic Ms Marvel"? So more psychotic than dragging Skrull hulk into outer space to watch it suffocate with a smile on her face?
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 жыл бұрын
and recently enough of a sociopath to withstand the penance stare
@incitossol
@incitossol 7 жыл бұрын
*Sees the crystalline hallway has a castle-esque design* oh great they got sent to the Crystal Empire.
@nvfury13
@nvfury13 7 жыл бұрын
Incitos 98 Or if was a DC book: Elfquest crossover! Wooooooo!
@islamroks11
@islamroks11 7 жыл бұрын
Or murder. Murder's great!
@Kirbyfan87827
@Kirbyfan87827 7 жыл бұрын
Not before he kills Starlight Glimmer, hopefully.
@MTdaBlacking
@MTdaBlacking 7 жыл бұрын
Nah they arrived on the Gem Homeworld.
@blackdemonknight
@blackdemonknight 7 жыл бұрын
Lot more pink then I expected it would be if it was.
@dmh2k7
@dmh2k7 7 жыл бұрын
Clearly Nocturne had to leave because you are only allowed one blue person... Tokenism!
@monkeykingw
@monkeykingw 7 жыл бұрын
Time Breakers? Oh my god, it's going to be a Marvel crossover with Dragon Ball!
@TheHeroOfTomorrow
@TheHeroOfTomorrow 7 жыл бұрын
"Because filling in character development AFTER that character has died is a GREAT strategy!" Just ask Masashi Kishimoto, Tite Kubo, and Hiro Mashima. :P
@spiderbatman97
@spiderbatman97 7 жыл бұрын
Kishimoto made it work for me most of the time.
@KidSnivy69
@KidSnivy69 6 жыл бұрын
spiderbatman97 I beg to differ
@jfdrac
@jfdrac 3 жыл бұрын
And now the Black Widow movie lol
@grkpektis
@grkpektis 7 жыл бұрын
This series was one of the first comics I remember ever reading, with such an awesome premise how could I resist and it did not dissapoint
@Fuzzy_Barbarian
@Fuzzy_Barbarian 6 жыл бұрын
So basically, in a cast filled with alternate universe characters... Magik is basically the mainstream Magik, but has *more* of a reason for how murderous and evil she is.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 7 жыл бұрын
I still wonder if we ever learned how Mary Jane become spidergirl in that reality because that story sounds really interesting
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 5 жыл бұрын
I would say her story could be "she has the same abilities as peter (intellect), sexuality (attracted to girls), and lived basically everything peter has lived up to the branching point (the infested world, and meeting sunfire)"and in turn Peter lived her life instead (being a party guy, attracted to guys, etc.). That's a theory, as i haven't read al exiles books
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 interesting theory and honestly that would make a tons of sense.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 4 жыл бұрын
@@TevyaSmolka yeah. The branching point would Also mean MJ would have been The One to date Gwen Stacy, Harry Osborn would have dated Peter, and Peter and MJ might have only hace a "Brother-Sister" Bond At best
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 4 жыл бұрын
Ian R. Nava Huber hm interesting idea and honestly that would make a tons of sense especially given this Mary Jane relationship status.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 11 ай бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195sounds like fun!
@RonanStreamkiller
@RonanStreamkiller 7 жыл бұрын
I'm actually really wanting to read this series. I love the concept of the multiverse crossing over.
@PrincessAshley972
@PrincessAshley972 7 жыл бұрын
you and me both. i wonder if theres a trade of this series available for purchase? cause id seriously consider buying it
@RonanStreamkiller
@RonanStreamkiller 7 жыл бұрын
As someone involved with comics, I was wanting to explore some more of these ideas and make a my own original comic about it with original characters.
@PrincessAshley972
@PrincessAshley972 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, well i wish you luck with that. I just wanna read the series
@FinnishFilmFan
@FinnishFilmFan 7 жыл бұрын
You definitely should read it! It's a great series and probably my favorite X-Men title! But just to give you a heads up, the series starts to go down in quality right around the issue 61. It's still readable for the next 20 or so issues but once Claremont comes aboard it starts to suck because he brings in all of his favorite tropes and the series is no longer the same after that. Then it changes to New Exiles which you're probably better off skipping altogether. And after 18 issues of that there is a 6 issue Exiles Vol. 2 which is fine but due to lasting so short it doesn't have time to really develop into what it could have been.
@nickh3205
@nickh3205 7 жыл бұрын
I hope he saw morph as Spock in the last comic panel
@nvfury13
@nvfury13 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Linkara's take on Access, a hero spawned by the Amalgam Universe event.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 11 ай бұрын
I kinda wish he had joined the Exiles at some point, if rights would’ve allowed it
@jessaminehaak8253
@jessaminehaak8253 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, "a world overrun by Sentinels" is considered a big enough job to require both teams, but "literally fight GALACTUS" isn't?
@TupocalypseShakur
@TupocalypseShakur 2 жыл бұрын
Just tell yourself he was really hungry
@Rosgakori
@Rosgakori 7 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I have always kinda liked the character Holocaust. Name is iffy, but damn he is sometimes hilarious. His daddy issues with Apocalypse are fun, he has that snarky comedy sense but looks like a doomsday villain for the ages.
@redlanternreviews4821
@redlanternreviews4821 6 жыл бұрын
Atte Timonen I'd love to see more of him, he's like a bigger psychotic Captain Atom with daddy issues
@shaunliftvlog6068
@shaunliftvlog6068 5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Summers: Death Bird! There is no Cheese Danish there! I don't WANNA invade Earth no more! Death Bird: ...As you say, my dear. Gabriel: Let's go back to what we were doing before! I wanna golf with planets!
@mutalord
@mutalord 7 жыл бұрын
I love this Morph, how cares if he is a comic relief, he is awesome
@v.m.9198
@v.m.9198 7 жыл бұрын
I love th concept of this series. give me a day in any crazy alternate universe of a series and I'm all for it. it's part of the reason I love Top Ten even though it has wonky writing at times
@HalfTangible
@HalfTangible 7 жыл бұрын
3:43 Namor has SPACE MARINES?!
@snekkans
@snekkans 7 жыл бұрын
Man, this was one of my favorite comics when I was growing up. Nice to see it get some attention.
@briang9581
@briang9581 7 жыл бұрын
Nocturne is replaced with Namora. Hey Marvel, blue chicks aren't interchangeable!
@ariksanderstuckwisch1604
@ariksanderstuckwisch1604 6 жыл бұрын
The series actually sounds amazing...
@Alucard-A-La-Carte
@Alucard-A-La-Carte 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked Winick's final story with the evil Iron Man fighting the Inhumans. I'm also shocked to learn that I enjoyed a Chuck Austen tale as I think that Hyperion's story arc is compelling and has one of the best resolutions from that era of comics.
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 7 жыл бұрын
the wait was worth it, this series is amazing!!
@BobLogical
@BobLogical 7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Towa and Mira are going to show up next week.
@PrincessAshley972
@PrincessAshley972 7 жыл бұрын
Man, what a great retrospective so far! Having watched both parts, you got me hooked. I want the next part now damnit!
@FinnishFilmFan
@FinnishFilmFan 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome restrospective! Even though I've read all the Exiles comics and know all this stuff I still enjoy watching it since you present it in an interesting way. It's still just as enjoyable to listen to as your other retrospectives which had all new information for me. Great job Linkara!
@johnpelley8127
@johnpelley8127 7 жыл бұрын
Havok as the Nexus of All Realities is actually a continuity call-back to the Mutant X series that concluded around the same time Exiles was beginning. In that book, the 616 Alex Summers inadvertently traveled to a parallel reality where he basically came to inhabit the body of his doppelganger there and, later, absorbed the Nexus of All Realities into himself to stop the Goblin Queen from getting control of it and thus gaining access to the multiverse. Which is *absolutely* convoluted, but it's still a neat piece of continuity to recall for a book like this one. It shows that the writers were paying attention to each other.
@EntertainmentExpertz
@EntertainmentExpertz 7 жыл бұрын
I have found a new series I'm in love with. Thank you Linkara 😊
@SpySecretSquirrel
@SpySecretSquirrel Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I watched this 2 part retrospective. I'm going to get this entire run. This seems like a lot of fun and minor odd things aside, Is one hell of an adventure.
@Tahkaullus01
@Tahkaullus01 6 жыл бұрын
Damn that was amazing, I'm actually considering looking this comic series up now to see how much I like it myself.
@spider-man9504
@spider-man9504 7 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the Spider from "Exiles" remind me of the Forgotten Spider-Man Creepypasta?
@DaBlueJay2001
@DaBlueJay2001 7 жыл бұрын
Spider- Man What spider-man creepypasta, and don't have this comment disappear and turn out you're bating me into getting cursed youtube spider-man
@spider-man9504
@spider-man9504 7 жыл бұрын
It titled "The Forgotten Spider-Man". Look it up. Also, just ask what it is! No need to be all paranoid.
@DaBlueJay2001
@DaBlueJay2001 7 жыл бұрын
Eh, you can never be too sure. Thanks man
@bloodstoneore4630
@bloodstoneore4630 6 жыл бұрын
sounds like one of those low-effort mario pastas to me
@yuzzem64
@yuzzem64 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome Thank you linkara can't wait for the next episode as a fan of multiverse stories like Sliders and DC's elseworlds I've always been interested in and wanted to know more about Exiles always love your retrospectives
@Mr.En1gm4
@Mr.En1gm4 7 жыл бұрын
If "Brood: Colonial marines" was awesome then "Brood: Isolation" is the worst game of the Marvel Universe.
@TupocalypseShakur
@TupocalypseShakur 2 жыл бұрын
I'll make you eat those words
@Anthintendo
@Anthintendo 7 жыл бұрын
14:30 AKA the Sentry, AKA Gladiator. Thanks, Marvel!
@samboujaiteh3331
@samboujaiteh3331 7 жыл бұрын
Baron Blood would be a great gateway to an adaptation of Capwolf!
@MiscellaneousSoup
@MiscellaneousSoup 7 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful!
@LeoNxL2Hx
@LeoNxL2Hx 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your retrospectives :D
@ianmckee4726
@ianmckee4726 7 жыл бұрын
There was another X-Men series later on called X-Treme X-Men with a very similar premise. In that series Dazzler had a team of alt universe X-Men hunting down evil multiverse Xaviers under the command of a Xavier head in a jar. That Xavier even had a second more brutal team running around under Dazzlers nose.
@FinnishFilmFan
@FinnishFilmFan 7 жыл бұрын
Ian McKee That was a pretty decent series too! Just not quite as good as the original Exiles was in the beginning. But I enjoyed it. Such a shame it didn't last longer. But nowadays unless you're Spider-Man or Batman or Deadpool you just can't sustain an alternate reality title for long... :/
@NewWaveMasquerade
@NewWaveMasquerade 7 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've heard of the Exiles and despite some of the story's flaws I rather like it. I look forward to part three.
@zoeymcshane5134
@zoeymcshane5134 7 жыл бұрын
I love it! This was one of the first comic runs I ever read and it's still one of my favorites. I'm glad someone's spotlighting it, it doesn't get half the attention it deserves.
@NeoShinGundam
@NeoShinGundam 5 жыл бұрын
Man was this series great. I still miss it.
@bul13ts
@bul13ts 7 жыл бұрын
Great! *Now* you're caught up on your uploads!
@AT4W
@AT4W 7 жыл бұрын
Actually have been since September. ^_^
@OfficialChrissums
@OfficialChrissums 7 жыл бұрын
i really want to read this now. This seems cool
@wolfclaw719
@wolfclaw719 6 жыл бұрын
"The dating of womenfolk kind of gay?" - Morph Marvel sure has some talented writers
@jfdrac
@jfdrac 3 жыл бұрын
Its said with 2 feet of tongue in cheek
@youreverydayrae
@youreverydayrae 7 жыл бұрын
You've got me interested in this series.I like Quantum Leap so I'll have to check this out
@ShineDark
@ShineDark 6 жыл бұрын
So, based on his color scheme, I’m guessing that ‘The Spider’ was a version of Pete who somehow bonded with the Carnage Symbiote. If that is the case, then I wonder how strong this version of him is. I’m pondering this because, when superior Spider-Man bonded with the Venom Symbiote for a short bit, he was strong enough to literally backhand Thor away from himself, whilst also fighting the rest of the Avengers with seemingly little problem; so imagine how strong Spider-Man is when he’s bonded to a Symbiote that can make a normal person, who doesn’t even exercise regularly, stronger than both Spidey and Venom, who’s host is a guy that can bench 700 lbs, put together. I could be remembering that fight wrong though, except for the Thor thing, I remember that pretty clearly.
@keiththompson9435
@keiththompson9435 7 жыл бұрын
Been getting into JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (Currently in the famous Stardust Crusaders Part) which invoke this in Parts 6 -8 and a game called Eyes over Heaven (which may or may not be Cannon). But the point is that even Japan has explored this concept (Kingdom Hearts, Kamen Rider Decade (which was done poorly), Super Sentai was this (until they realized they needed an explanation as to how they are all meeting each other for team ups), the Clamp Multiverse (Featuring XXXholic being a key one) there's more but I can't think of them. I'm liking the twists and turns here.
@Painocus
@Painocus 7 жыл бұрын
Postmortem character development worked for Homer. Although on a more serious note; it's not actually a bad strategy depending on what you are going for, it can lend a lot of weight and emotion to events that, had they come before the character died, might have felt more meandering and pedestrian.
@theTerrabull
@theTerrabull 7 жыл бұрын
I have to read this now.
@spiderwithay6679
@spiderwithay6679 7 жыл бұрын
I really like your long form summaries like this and power Rangers :D
@spacepenguins8939
@spacepenguins8939 7 жыл бұрын
This would be a great (Animated/Netflix) series
@BeauMan2
@BeauMan2 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s exactly what I was thinking and make it based on comics like what dc did
@raknai
@raknai 7 жыл бұрын
At this point this series really was very good. she take a good run.
@zachfense593
@zachfense593 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized 2 minutes into part two that this reminds me of a manga called Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles.
@BobbertLord
@BobbertLord 7 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I picked up a random comic about teens whose parents were supervillains and a group of heroes traveling the multiverse. I eventually learned the first one was the runaways and now I know the second comic
@TheDanishGuyReviews
@TheDanishGuyReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Donald Roberts Runaways was sooo good when I read it. They ended up in New York once, which saw one of the best uses of Cloak and Dagger I know of. ~ TDG
@TianaSidhe
@TianaSidhe 7 жыл бұрын
Hoo boy, they're in the Crystal Castle. Light Hope is gonna be pissed.
@Avigorus
@Avigorus 7 жыл бұрын
Wait, you replaced the "Nightcrawler as pope" with something even more ridiculous? What?
@AT4W
@AT4W 7 жыл бұрын
"I will conquer the world by encouraging kids not to go to college, therefore they will be stupid AND I WILL RULE!"
@Avigorus
@Avigorus 7 жыл бұрын
Ah, I'd forgotten that one... somehow didn't stick in my memory as well
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 5 жыл бұрын
@@Avigorus Wait, in what episode that plan was stated?
@Avigorus
@Avigorus 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 I can't remember, it was probably at least a year before this post.
@jfdrac
@jfdrac 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 Future 5
@squeethemog213
@squeethemog213 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this retrospective so far. When you said you were tying your retrospectives together (i know it was a joke) does that mean we'll be seeing a Rom space knight reference later? I loved that one! Keep up the great work man!
@lynngreen7978
@lynngreen7978 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized, the original Excalibur actually did something very similar to this, the Cross-Time Caper. The team, Captain Britain, Meggan, and the only survivors of the X-Men (so they thought) - Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, and Phoenix, get sent on a trip across various parallel Earths. I loved Excalibur, and wished they would take part in X-book crossovers. Then Marvel granted my wish, and screwed Excalibur.
@bluespaceman7937
@bluespaceman7937 6 жыл бұрын
Shame, but at least those earlier arcs were still cool.
@magnettoa
@magnettoa 7 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a lot of Kamen Rider Decade
@NathanWubs
@NathanWubs 7 жыл бұрын
for me too, except with most universes being like omg decade is going to destroy the universe.
@Juel92
@Juel92 7 жыл бұрын
Nightcrawler as the Pope? Now that's a story they missed in Secret Wars. He could have been a baron or something. Worth it for the imagery alone imo :P
@DantePD
@DantePD 7 жыл бұрын
Well, he DOES later address Nocturne's pregnancy, with it being pretty heavily implied that she had an abortion, not willing to have the child without Thunderbird
@MaveriKat
@MaveriKat 7 жыл бұрын
This is a great retrospective but I can't help but feel you missed an opportunity at the 6:13 segment. You could have totally read one of Dr. Doom's monologues or even a simple cry of, "RICHA~AAAAARDS!" in the Drunken Tony Stark voice!
@3113mac
@3113mac 3 жыл бұрын
Baron Blood was a Union Jack villain from World War 1 before he fought cap in WW2
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 Жыл бұрын
13:58 so much for "don't let anyone die"
@Merit2397
@Merit2397 Жыл бұрын
Putting aside my feelings on the X-Men and their spinoff books, Exiles dose give us unique insight into the Marvel multiverse, although that too kind of gives me pause to go out and read it. For me, alternate reality stories are kind of like tales that involve time travel. Namely that the quality for them can be hit or miss. For example, for every "Mirror Mirror" (Star Trek: The Original Series), there is "In A Mirror Darkly" (Star Trek: Enterprise). It really depends on whether or not I care about the characters.
@chrissysky01
@chrissysky01 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Judd Winick has his strengths. Things like this and Under the Red Hood are a bit more his speed.
@NinjaRed5000
@NinjaRed5000 7 жыл бұрын
As much as I dislike X-Men these days, I've always been interested in Exiles. this is a pretty fun retrospective
@EuclideanAl
@EuclideanAl 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, come ON! I have to know what's at the end of the crystal hallway!!
@dmore454
@dmore454 6 жыл бұрын
1:59 I'd also argue his Green Lantern run was pretty damn good. I know Ron Marz gets a lot of the credit for making Kyle Rayner into a likable character despite the circumstances, but I enjoyed Winnick's run with Kyle just as much if not more than Marz's. I've never gotten around to getting the last few issues of his run so maybe it all falls apart in those issues, but up to around #154 or so it's a highlight from that era of DC for me, which says a lot considering that was during the height of the DC Golden Age. 10:10 I wonder if the whole "Havok is the multiverse Nexus" thing has something to do with Howard Mackie's Mutant X series, where 616 Havok was the leader of an alternate universe X-Men. Knowing Mackie, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the source of the convoluted BS; just moving Havok to an alternate universe convoluted that character up more than he needed to be (and Mackie had already turned Havok into a mess by the end of his X-Factor run), as you saw in Austen's Uncanny run when he brought him back. I know that series has it's fans, but I've never cared much for Mackie. His X-Factor run killed that book, and his Spider-man work was decent at the best of times, so even though I'm a hardcore X-Men fan and a bit of a completist, I'll probably never get around to reading Mutant X. Now that I think about it, while Austen gets the most flack of the X-writers for bad stories and messing up the books, I think Mackie is the one writer who's actually done the most damage to the X-books and characters. Seriously, if you thought Austin's Uncanny was bad, just try to make it through Mackie's X-Factor; it goes from a decent series under the previous writer (in comparison to what's to come) to awful within a couple of issues under Mackie, gets so bad that it almost becomes so-bad-it's-good for about an issue and a half, and then plunges so far into garbage territory that it loops back around to just plain god awful again before cancellation. At least Austen made Juggernaut interesting for the first time in years, tried to get more manga inspired artists on Uncanny to capitalize on the anime boom at the time (something I'm surprised Marvel and DC gave up on pretty quickly despite anime and manga still being waaaay more popular in the US from then to now than standard American superhero comics and huge crossover hits like My Hero showing a hybrid series has potential in the US and the Japanese market that US publishers have been trying to crack for years...) and his bad stories are mostly bad in a fascinating, trainwreck that's oddly hilarious kind of way. I don't think Mackie ever did anything close to that good during his time on the X-books, he just wrote the worst kind of nonsensical plots, the boring kind, while butchering characters like Havok (he really got the worst of it) that he flip-flopped from good to evil every other issue while inserting roughly 3,000 new subplots every issue while never finding time to pay a single one off. Plus Jeff Matsuda drew most of that run, and while personally I like the more Madureira, anime influenced style he had transitioned to by the time he got to X-Factor, it's not nearly as refined as his 2000s anime-esque style and rarely do the pencils not look rushed and drawn the last day before the deadline. Then a young Duncan Rouloue takes over art duties for the second half of Mackie's run and... Let's just say like any young artist, he needed more time to refine his craft and style. But a handful of people tell me Mutant X is decent, so I don't know, maybe he's just better when he can write his version of characters in a universe of his own creation.
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 Жыл бұрын
How does Magic expect to single-handedly kill the Avengers? And how does she successfully do it at that?
@flyingfist4203
@flyingfist4203 5 жыл бұрын
Why haven't I watched this sooner?
@AkutomiNamikaze
@AkutomiNamikaze 7 жыл бұрын
Crystal Castle-like domain you say? Where are Taako, Merle, and Magnus when you need 'em to save the day?
@Bussani
@Bussani 6 жыл бұрын
You know, while there are plenty of dimension-hopping stories Exiles could be compared to, the idea of people being plucked up and put onto a team against their will, fighting so they can return to their normal lives, with a changing roster to replace characters who leave the story, made me think of Gantz. For other reasons that I won't mention in case I spoil it for someone!
@cardmaster9
@cardmaster9 7 жыл бұрын
Happy to see this new episode, but Seriously Linkara, your voice was basically gone for the last half of this video. Your health comes first, it's okay to skip a week. We'll all understand.
@isaacsussman5632
@isaacsussman5632 7 жыл бұрын
you know. as interesting as having all these alternate realities is great. but I think it would be really cool if they went to versions of the world where instead of just having different decisions being made, they went to universes where everything is like other forms of media. like a world where they are in a TV show or one where they all have stands or one where the marvel godzilla combined with the venom symbiote. it feels like they could have done something incredibly ridiculous instead of just a few differences. but this still works.
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 7 жыл бұрын
with the introduction of the multiverse in the Marvel cinematic universe will we either see a cinematic adaptation of Exiles or even a televised one would make a great movie experimenting with the big range of universes out there in the Marvel brand
@MrBrianHibbs
@MrBrianHibbs 7 жыл бұрын
Christ this has to be one of the most "comics are weird" episodes you've ever done.
@EwanMakeMovies
@EwanMakeMovies 7 жыл бұрын
I liked this video for the 'Brood: Colonial Marines' joke.
@joserobertosolismerlin5527
@joserobertosolismerlin5527 7 жыл бұрын
Screw time travel, dimention hopping is what really gives headaches
@lorddrayvon1426
@lorddrayvon1426 3 жыл бұрын
I'm of the opinion that Judd Winnick is a good writer when he is allowed to do what he wants. Graduation Day was something of an editorial mandate and he tried to make it work with his own style which would explain the tone deaf narration.
@dakotadoyle7573
@dakotadoyle7573 5 жыл бұрын
When he said timebreakers i thought he was refrencing the Dragon Ball Online game
@tonlito22
@tonlito22 6 жыл бұрын
14:27 "A more psychotic Mrs Marvel" . . . let's add Prophet to the list of titles Chuck Austen has.
@SuperMeganubis
@SuperMeganubis 7 жыл бұрын
Im sort of disappointed you didnt look into the Uncanny X-Men Tie in more, it actually was a continuation of a really good alternate reality book, Mutant X, where Havok fell into an alternate reality, the book was quite solid and had a good conclusion, it was byfar my favorite issues, since I was missing mutant X, at the time. Exiles was I guess the replacement for Mutant X. Oh and usually Manthing is the Nexus of realities, but in the Mutant X Reality Manthing (who was that realities Dr Strange) passed the powers onto havok.
@CasaiAgicap
@CasaiAgicap 7 жыл бұрын
Dude If there was a comic where all of the Avengers had become vampires due to a vampiric Captain America, I would read the shit out of that
@HiperPivociarz
@HiperPivociarz 7 жыл бұрын
I just finished it and I already miss Lewis XD
@GreenDiablo
@GreenDiablo 7 жыл бұрын
A hallway of crystals? OH god! They teleported into Final Fantasy 13!
@tyrant-den884
@tyrant-den884 7 жыл бұрын
I would love it if one of the later writers based the Timebroker being evil entirely on the poor explanation given to his nature in the beginning.
@andreworders7305
@andreworders7305 Жыл бұрын
19:44 and Nocturne doesn't care that she isn't being given a chance to get back to her home timeline anymore?
@KubatheChangeling
@KubatheChangeling 7 жыл бұрын
And I'm going to guess, next week, part 2 is going to start off with the "Previously on Atop the Fourth Wall" segment... Right? I'm just guessing.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 7 жыл бұрын
Barron Blood NEEDS to be in a movie now. And he needs zeppelins.
@jfdrac
@jfdrac 3 жыл бұрын
He should so be the villian for the Blade movie...Screw Deacon Frost again or a millinth version of Dracula....Blade vs Nazi Vampires ....
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