Netflix isn't a live broadcast. You are paying to legally watch a broadcast and not just with the BBC

@@xdoubt5487 I don't dispute that , i dispute in the way the service is sold .

No letters from the local gay club, threatening me with legal action for not paying my subscription. Same with tennis clubs, golf courses, the RAC and the Labour Party. I don't do ANY of that stuff. Just Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Oscar off and cease threatening me.

Spot on. You only pay the licence if you want to including any made up fines...

Now stop watching the crap too!

You didn't pay the fine?

That Scott Robson fella gets about a bit. I am well over a hundred miles from Essex and he is covering this area too.

government gave them permission to harass people , YOUR government apparently

I'm waiting for the first judge with enough moral fibre to challenge this crap. I'm NOT holding my breath. What a sh!thole this country has become since we lost an entire generation defending it.

Judges don't issue charges.

@@snowflakemelter1172 They actually have that authority - if they choose to use it. In court (years ago) as a witness, I saw another (stupidly abusive) witness arrested on a judge's order and taken to a cell.

I thought it was😮

It is, it's called extortion!

Or even if you can afford it.

made a demand; with menaces; that the demand was unwarranted; and that the defendant has a view to make a gain for himself or another or have intent to cause a loss to another .... making an unwarranted demand with menaces with a view to making a gain or causing a loss , is it not blackmail ?

It is a crime but if you need proof that we live in a two tier legal system them you have just stumbled on it If you or I sent out such threatening letters we would be hung drawn and quartered but the corporate gangs do what ever they like. The good news is, their time is up.

But it's people that don't pay that are being harassed.

@@mikecrimlis3366 How do you suppose they can harass everybody if nobody buys a license? It would be so funny to see them try :)

Maybe a social media petition to the bbc.

Then they might resort to trying to get the VILE TV TAX bolted onto Council Tax (as they have thought about)...

@@thedarkknight1971 That's exactly what the charlie uniform november tangos will do.

Yup! Ask Alex Belfield!

unless its explicitly granted by the Government, as TVL/BBC letters are.... ask your MP, or take the letters to the police who will be very interested until they see they are from the BBC..

Unless you’re Capita and the BBC!

only if you are not part of the establishment

Unless government corporations do it!

I paid £thousands over the decades but NEVER again.

Since 1981? Wow don't they ever give up on all this nonsense

@@MYBIGKINDHEART Apparently not. Imagine the amount of license payers money those fools have wasted.

@@FredScuttle456 Good for you.

@@G58 on another note I can't believe such stupid things like the licence is still around these days especially when we have other things about now such as different streaming services etc

Ditto. Pasted together they make a handy door stop. Shredded they provide a good source of bedding for hamsters. Ultimately a fortune can be saved on loo paper in "difficult times".

@@MichaelGarland I like to shred mine and use in my worm compost bin, shit from shit.

@@michaelkennedy8766 Duly added into the data base of how to constructively transform futility correspondence. Thank you good sir.

I got one today to my home address. To the proprietor or manager it said. Apparently I’m a businessman now and my company needs a tv licence 😂😂😂😂

I doubt that very much, otherwise they would have had their collars felt. Regarding this particular letter, I thought CJ may have picked up on the fact that the words, "Official notice: Investigation opened" appear in bold, red type in a window in the envelope, so all our postmen know about it too. I received one of these yesterday and mentioned it in the comments on CJ's earlier video today. This is a new low for Capita and we already know what a vile organisation it is. I wouldn't worry too much about an investigation changing from being at the final stages to being opened. This is just the usual Capita sloppiness (another of their endearing traits) and there is nothing we can do about that.

@@anonnemo2504Capita’s entering traits have indeed provided regular comedy in Private Eye

@@anonnemo2504 This organisation is linked to and supporting government, you forget without any thought or brain cell, government control everything. It's in the best interest of government as they make millions. Open your eyes to the real problems here.

KZfaq lawyer 😂😂😂

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hello chilli Jon carne tv licence should be abolished altogether please let me know kind regards William c adlam cheers thank you chilli Jon carne please let me know kind regards?

​@@Williamadlam1let you know what 😂😂😂

Courts are Government departments. It wouldn't matter if you are in the right or not. You WILL be found to be in the wrong. It would take a rich person to make a stand and go in all guns blazing with legal experts outta the arse. And NO rich person is going to do that for two simple reasons. 1) A rich person would have a TVL. £169 means nothing to them. It's about the same as they spend in car insurance and fuel for their expensive cars for an hour. 2) Rich people don't rattle the cages of Government agencies that could make their lives very difficult. They keep their heads down.

Trust me taking the BBC to court will fail. It's state propaganda so there's no way they would let you win the case. Even if you are in the right.

@@frankbrodie5168 yes but what if instead of rich people taking it to court many many little people all put in to the pot and take it to court .

​@@frankbrodie5168And most of those rich people are in the same club...

How about it that’s people power

They are the chosen ones lmao

They can, 'visit', all they like. They won't get a response. 🤣

To be fair, it was a matter entirely separate from TV Licensing. But I once had the immense pleasure - in court as a witness - of hearing a judge ask a self-entitled and pompous CEO of a business that was being sued, "Excuse me sir - but who the hell do you think you are? Sit down and shut up! Or would you rather sit in a cell?"

I will be out on 26th june. The date on my letter…..or it could be any other day according to the letter

@@SouthwestTee62 Yep. Pick a day! That day? Oh dear - coincidentally I'm going to be out. That other day? Guess what?

They can - TVL/BBC have an exemption granted by the Government and this is why the Black Belt Barrister never takes any action. Ask your MP why they allow the BBC to send threatening letters....

How very true

were gamers as in computer games.

Would not watch it, even if it was free.

Thats because this law dates from the 1940's when it was true..... such a progressive society! :)

I get that reference. I wonder how many others did? lol Also.. I own Columbo DVD's. So they would be bollocksed sitting outside my house in their satvan.

@@frankbrodie5168 I got the reference as well so you are not alone - we are all avid viewers of this channel and all not paying the license - spread the word !! Hallelujah lol

Those, 'public information films', regarding the requirement to have a TV licence based on the premise that it was only a matter of time before their TV detector vans would, 'detect', someone's unlicensed TV being on in their front room, (even down to not only what channel was being watched, but also what programme they were watching), was a complete fabrication, no different to these letters being sent that threaten a long line of, 'investigations', that amount to nothing. All fearmongering scare tactics to try and coerce people into paying up for something that, in most cases, they don't need to.

We get one a month, it’s harassment and demanding money with menaces ! Got a pile of them dating back to 2020 even though they acknowledged cancellation and gave us a refund 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

😂😂😂...I am digging out an old pipe then 😅

I started doing that a few months back, great satisfaction. The letters seemed to stop for a couple of months….but started again 😂

Waste of time, the PO/TVL have an arrangement not to return. Best to forward to your MP to ask why they grant the BBC a legal exemption to send threatening letters.

Better still, RETURN TO SENDER !

We all get them mate. Just ignore.

The worst harassment I got from them was years back when I HAD a licence but they kept saying I hadn't. I'd call and explain I had one, they'd agree...but still the threats kept coming. The same happened to a neighbour.

It's all bollox

wont get anywhere.... there is an exemption in law that permits the BBC to contact you. You'll notice the letters never quite cross the mark of harassment since they dont use the name in the address.

The police will back them. I have written evidence from Warwickshire police.

The BBC/TVL have been granted a legal exemption to contact households (its a legal requirement the Government make of BBC). They don't put the name on the letters that are questionable so it cant be legally classed as harassment. You can test this by taking the letters to your local police and see them be all over it until they see its the BBC - also notice the Black Belt Barrister never actually takes any action even though he dislikes it. Just cancel your direct debit and leave the BBC in the 1940's...

I do and i put codes on for them such as P155 044 and A55 015 or draw laughing emojis

That is what I intend to do.

I started doing it earlier this year. Good fun 😂

I have been doing this for years! Let them pay for the return postage fee! 😂

@@Syptah47 Why react, don't waste your time, doing nothing is easier

start one then

Waste of time. The BBC/TVL have been granted a legal exemption to contact households (its a legal requirement the Government make of BBC). They don't put the name on the letters that are questionable so it cant be legally classed as harassment. You can test this by taking the letters to your local police and see them be all over it until they see its the BBC - also notice the Black Belt Barrister never actually takes any action even though he dislikes it. Just cancel your direct debit and leave the BBC in the 1940's...

Next time declare it’s a business address. They leave you alone for 3 years then . Still no need to give your name or what business it is.

Do you let the police know you don't need a gun licence?

Scot GFY 🤡

Figures have been given out as to how much this farce costs.

Easy answer.. The BBC has used £169million chasing TV licence dodgers in what has been branded a "blatant waste of money". The BBC are paying logistics company Whistl and Royal Mail £33.8million a year for five years to deliver letters to those suspected of not paying.

Its actually been budgeted for, if you look at the Capita contract it says they have budgeted for these letters and the only caveat is that they have to allow for rising postal charges

The BBC are paying logistics company Whistl and Royal Mail £33.8million a year for five years

I'm not allowed to post what he said...yt gave me a warning...naughty boy ain't i

you got security cameras film them get their car plates you then got a result because then you got their personal info, see how they like the return.

@@ngc4486diane No personal info on a plate. It's in public and you can film and record anybody's plate

There not going to send thugs it's all hot air , a shake down to scare people into a licence

Me too😂 and it costs them 😅

So was I but got one today. Apparently I’ve got a business here as they wanted the manager😂😂

Yep you've hit the nail on the head there.

I suggested the same thing in the comments to a previous video. I wish someone in the know would give a proper legal opinion.

The only way to win is not to play. If you do nothing they are impotent

Because the government takes a partial amount from the licence fee as a tax, which is why they want the licence fee to be paid through council tax. Its entertainment tax that they were never open about, they would tax you for the air you breathe if they could find a way to do it.

Because they know almost no one would actually pay if it was not backed up by threats.

They could and do you remember some years ago TV's started to have card slots on them? The BBC campaigned to stop this as it would introduce encryption/pay TV which they dont want.

If I hadn't experienced that myself, it would be difficult to believe

😂😂

They seem like far too good a quality of paper - quite heavy, with a nice surface finish, and fold very sharply - to waste on bum-wiping, regardless of whether or not you suffer from papercuts on the rear end. I thought I might save them up to paper my toilet with them, I bet they'd last a good long time on the walls in there!

Never use as toilet paper. Not good enough and could cut you.

@@harrynking777 NOW you tell me. I already have got the cuts and on top all the crap on those letters irrates my delicate nethers

There threatening letters remind me of the Izal toilet paper we had in school many years ago, it didn’t wipe your bum it just spread it round a bit

2 belends don't make a right

Reform will cancel the licence.

Its a trick! Don't do it nooooooo!

Next you'll agree to letting them in. It's coercion

ahh... resorting to bribery now!

You were probably due a refund but perhaps they are also happy that they can now link your name to your address on their database. Declaring no licence needed is a mistake and makes a visit more likely than if you don't. Regarding this particular letter, I thought CJ may have picked up on the fact that the words, "Official notice: Investigation opened" appear in bold, red type in a window in the envelope, so all our postmen know about it too. I received one of these yesterday and mentioned it in the comments on CJ's earlier video today. This is a new low for Capita and we already know what a vile organisation it is. I wouldn't worry too much about an investigation changing from being at the final stages to being opened. This is just the usual Capita sloppiness (another of their endearing traits) and there is nothing we can do about that.

@@anonnemo2504 Captia will get a surprise if they ever visit me again.

Waste of time. The BBC/TVL have been granted a legal exemption to contact households (its a legal requirement the Government make of BBC). They don't put the name on the letters that are questionable so it cant be legally classed as harassment. You can test this by taking the letters to your local police and see them be all over it until they see its the BBC - also notice the Black Belt Barrister never actually takes any action even though he dislikes it. Just cancel your direct debit and leave the BBC in the 1940's...

Usually yes, but the BBC/TVL have been granted a legal exemption to contact households (its a legal requirement the Government make of BBC). They don't put the name on the letters that are questionable so it cant be legally classed as harassment. You can test this by taking the letters to your local police and see them be all over it until they see its the BBC - also notice the Black Belt Barrister never actually takes any action even though he dislikes it. Just cancel your direct debit and leave the BBC in the 1940's...

Me too

Is that the Darlington TVL office?

Good luck with that. If the practice was illegal, it would have been stopped long ago.

They won't do anything. They don't work for you.

Waste of time. The BBC/TVL have been granted a legal exemption to contact households (its a legal requirement the Government make of BBC). They don't put the name on the letters that are questionable so it cant be legally classed as harassment. You can test this by taking the letters to your local police and see them be all over it until they see its the BBC - also notice the Black Belt Barrister never actually takes any action even though he dislikes it. Just cancel your direct debit and leave the BBC in the 1940's...

It must have cost my local TVL office a fortune as me and other members of my family have done just that!

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