What do you think about your quarantine now?

What? That's worse than the virus!

Best part for me was working 60 hours a week. Then again would have been cool to get like the rest of the country and live off the government teet.

Mad Dog McCree and Lethal Enforcers, plus their sequels, all on one disc each. Plus Out of This World and Heart of the Alien. I still play that last one to this day. And Eternal Champions was an interesting idea for a fighting game, though the controls were left something to desire.

I think the best part of Echo the Dolphin is the story behind how it came to be. The game itself… kinda sucks.

You should check out generation gap gaming , tyler has great content

YESSSSS!!!!!!!!! And don't forget the soundtrack. Had a great soundtrack!

Exactly the cd was jam packed

Best Sega CD game. Also is the game that use all of the Sega CD color palette.

This game should have been on the list. Probably my favorite fighting game.

The only downside is if you had infinite karma enabled, whoever played Shadow couldnt just keep doing shadow mode the entire match. It was weird to give a character basic total invincibility as a special move.

Same here. Add the 32x on top and you got it all.

Absolutely. My favorite system of all time. The only one with some truly time-impervious games. Not like the haphazardly slapped together Saturn titles, or the "copy everything, leave the soul out" Playstation - or the modern play-and-forget stencils.

Nah, Model 2 set up for me. Model 1 CD is too expensive, unreliable, and hard to repair.

@@HexenStar Well said, I ended up buying one and burning over a hundred games. Not all of them are masterpieces but it has a really good library for only 200 or so games total

@@maxxdahl6062 There's an new SD based cart you can buy that replaces the Sega Cd on the genesis. But it's over 200 bucks last time I checked

Nices Game

Agreed 100%

Oh yeah! So does The Terminator on Sega CD for that matter as well!

I agree! I have the game on my emulator and the soundtrack is better on the Sega CD

Yes agree. While the 32X was indeed a very questionable add-on and rightfully panned, I never understood why the Sega CD was categorized by many the exact same way. It was a pretty good and reasonable extension, just like the CD drive was for the PC-Engine. The only thing that might be criticized is the limited size of the library and the quality of some of the games in comparison to the "unenhanced" originals on the unextended Genesis. Had Sega not stopped the Genesis, but continued to sell it as a low price, entry level system to gaming in parallel to the Saturn and not as abruptly substituted the Saturn later with the Dreamcast but continued to support it by translating more of the Japanese library, they might still be in the Hardware business.

Sega didn't really know how to get to most out of its CD add-on. There were flashes of brilliance, yes, but the fact is most of Sega's CD library are either FMV games or cartridge titles with minimal add-ons.

@@iwanttocomplain I didn't say that it was no longer available, but would you buy a new console that even it's creator doesn't support anymore ? The system was dead the moment Sega dropped support (well dead everywhere except for Brazil). They did this to not hurt the sales of the Saturn which badly backfired, as they lost most of their market share to Sony and most of their revenue from disontinuing the Genesis. And the 32X was dead at birth. You can't turn a 16-Bit system with an add-on into a 32-Bit system. That just doesn't work, except if you build a more or less complete new system, which is prohibitively expensive. The 32X had no library, it was too expensive and it's performance was far from worth the asking prize. Talking of asking price, The Saturn would have sold a lot better too, if Sega would have prized it reasonably. The business is: you loose money on the hardware, but make money with the royalties from the software which requires a large installation base. So the more you subsidize the hardware to drop the price, the more money you make later in royalties. (Sony also learned this the hard way with the PS3.) Had Sega continued the Genesis, this would have provided the cash necessary to offer the Saturn fairly cheaply. Sega was roughly 1 year ahead of the PS1. Had they use that time to build a large installation base by tackling the market aggressively with a competitively priced system and not the price they asked for, they could have come out on top of the 5th generation, as the Saturn was, despite it's lack of polygons, a pretty powerful machine.

@@adamking6645 I agree, but that's only partially Sega's fault, as the vast majority of the games were from 3rd party producers and people really thought FMV games would be the future of gaming. Then they didn't have the bad rep that they have nowadays. And some games made pretty use of the system eg Snatcher, or Silpheed. But you are right, overall this was a lot better on the PC-Engine CD.

It’s always going to be unique. Why did Sega get ripped when they were actually doing better than Nintendo in 1996. Final Fight and Sonic CD was better than Super Nintendo.

I had The Terminator on the Genesis, but my friend had the Sega CD version. Took me 4 months after borrowing it to breakdown and give it back lol. On of the best platform shooters ever.

Shining force CD for me, terminator is mint tho :)

@@swilco266 I still have never played Shinning Force. Which is odd considering the only RPGS I have cared for have been on a Sega Console. I loathe turn based gameplay for the most part. But I got super addicted to Grandia 2 on the Dreamcast.

@@scottcollins5240 they're pretty good, they're strategy rpgs. A modern equivalent combat wise is something like xcom. Have a look on here, there are plenty of videos

@@scottcollins5240 I used to love grandia, I have grandia 1 and 2 on my switch :)

Yeah, I wonder why that wasn't mentioned? It was was an awesome game.

Not unlike Shadow of the Beast II

yeah i barely remember the sega cd, seeing it in the stores and that was rare then I remember at a flea market some guy was selling his whole kit, sega/cd/32x and games and I was losing it trying to get my dad to get it for me.

Rented? I remember that video giant (later to be west coast video) said that no place would ever rent a "cd" due to being easy to scratch lol

Yeah, same reaction when i bought sega saturn in jun 1995.

Preach bro 💯

My family was lower middle class and we had Sega CD and 32X..Also TurboGrafx 16 and SNES. Man I still remember those Christmas mornings

@@bdunk914 You were livin the dream for lower middle class. I was blessed to have Sega and Snes at different times. Obviously Nes

@Sandy V. Do you just come to comment section to cause drama? Like, your entire interaction here is one big shitpost

@Sandy V. You must be a dumb little boy..Who would lie to random strangers on KZfaq about what systems I had..We never had money but my parents made sure Christmas was awesome..And I am 36 so fuck off with the dumb ass ok boomer shit. You sound like a dumbass

@@krisfrederick5001 I wish I still had the Turbo Grafix..The 32x sucked I only played Doom and on the Sega CD I played Hockey and Sonic CD..Thank God for Emulators

Snatcher was my favourite too

A mint copy of Snatcher at CM Games in Lexington, KY is currently selling for $699.99.

Really?! I should start selling then :-) Once the emulators have appeared - i gave away the my Sega rig, but kept the games. Next step was convert to ISO and play.

Sega CD is also missing a scene, but overall I agree it is the better version. Also the voice acting is of better quality than what we generally got around that time.

victor araujo Didn’t know about a missing scene. Cool. I’ll have to find that. Thanks for the info. And yes, voice acting was pretty decent, and not cringe worthy.

On the PC version if you make nice with Blade's girlfriend and make the dinner date, there is an implied sex scene followed by Blade waking up the next morning in her bed.

victor araujo oh! Haha

Nice to find another Rise of the Dragon fan.

One of the very rare cases when the MS-DOS version was the best, until the mid 90's MS-DOS had very bad arcade conversions.

@@Hektols Mainly because it was getting bad ports from the Amiga.

Hektols ssf2turbo was good on pc

Simply Sherbert can’t someone fix this in a zip?

@@3ambreakbeats977 watch?v=v3eiG_QmQZc

You can use an emulator on pc

stathissim just mod your genesis mini and add the CD games

To be honest a Sega CD mini would be much more important and remarkable than Mega Drive itself

@@Itsfayd you can do that and even get the plastic add on to make it look the part too!

Mega SD!!

Lords of Thunder was absolutely amazing on the Sega CD, the arrangements were far and away better, more polished and were an absolute joy to listen to.

could you play dune with a mouse and keyboard? In any case, rts were hitting their stride"r" during that time so having any port of these games would have been amazing.

@@alphaforce6998 kinda backwards thinking imo. It would have been much more complicated to code to enhance cart game with assets from the cd drive than build a game from the ground up as a mega/segs cd title. The cd drive already had a 12mhz 68000 cpu in it. All it needed was a vdp with a larger palette that could output more simultaneous colors. Its practically a few more lines of code and sega had already built system 16 arcade boards around the 68000 cpu.

@@alphaforce6998 i really dont care what you think the test is. Your parameters dont really mean anything to me. I was answering your assertion that a dev, any dev in the mid 90s would find it easy or efficient or cheap to write calls back to assets on a cd rom to enhance a cart game. Especially if the bespoke game for the cd add on still contained 80% of the same code as the cart version.

@@alphaforce6998im not mad i but i have read your immature trolling comments to others in this comments section. Feel free to believe youve 'won' but also know that your behavior nullifies any salient point anyone might have considered from you. You are simply not a creature worth listening to. Ever.

it wouldve been smart. 32x was a waste

I actually liked the 32x too. Mortal kombat 2 was and is still the best console version

Imagine if the Mega-CD simply was what the Saturn would become. And released a full year before the PlayStation...

Yuuuip

@@GodWeenSatan still stupid

Definitely agree with Hook. John Williams original film soundtrack on the Mega CD version was truly beautiful.

Yes there is Policenaughts

I think it's an even bigger shame that classics like this along with several other Sega CD exclusives have not yet been re-released for the modern platforms. And now that I've mentioned it, I think I've just reminded myself to write Sega a personal wish list.. Lol.

@@rsuriyop Snatcher and Policenauts deserve a re-release. Would love to see them on Steam.

I did g, owned it when i was younger, wished id kept a lot of the stuff i got rid of. I played that game to death, love it!

I doubt we'll ever see any re-releases of any Terminator games. I myself would love to have re-releases of Bethesda's classic Future Shock/Skynet duology.

I found a copy of The Terminator for Mega CD in mint condition for £10 back in 2003. I'm so glad I added it to my collection when I did because the game sells for crazy money on Ebay these days! It's not as expensive as games like Snatcher, but it's getting up there.

@@johnbowles5399 your lucky john, take good care of it, think you could send a pic so we could the case?

It helps that Ecco has one of the best soundtracks in the Megadrive's catalog.

I prefer the game gear version myself the sound and gameplay was perfect when I was 8

Redbook audio is pretty boring in general. Chiptunes have an extra layer of appeal to them because of the limitations of the sound hardware forcing the sound guys to get creative.

I hear ya. The CD soundtrack is OUTSTANDING though, so personally I find myself bouncing back and forth between the two versions. They both have their own unique charms.

I bet the difficult is too high, heh?

Bought that at a used games store for $1.50 when I had my Mega CD...that was about how much it was worth.

I live in the uk and had marky mark and the funky bunch make my video. It was alright but there were some problems with sync being a pal machine running a ntsc game

Relative :-) But sweet.

@ciaran perry That is highly debatable, cause this depends on what defines and affects your experience with this game the most. If you are after graphics and difficulty only - then of course arcade wins hands down. But things are not as simple, if to look closer. Firstly, arcade Final Fight was not always accessible, since it was in the arcades and not at your living room. (i am talking times before MAME) Every fan wanted a home version. And on that front, Mega-CD version was as perfect as a home system could get at the time. It has better control options than the arcades, all stages, all enemies, all characters - and a good number of other great extras, that at the time of the 90's - i was yet oblivious to, due to being just a 14-year old. I clearly remember that the kids who had the Snesy version (as we called it: "the castrated final fight") - no one wanted to play it, and would sink time into Streets of Rage 2 instead. But when they laid their eyes on the Mega-CD port..."arcades!!!" was the first word that came out of their mouth, 9.5 times of 10. And that was it. Fast forward a few decades, and if we look closely - then we can easily and objectively count the difference in level detail, - and most levels are extremely faithful, and only very few certain areas suffer, - like the bar and the back alley of the stage 3, and the biker's street in the Bay Area. True, there are more enemies in the arcade version, and it's harder - but Mega-CD's difficulty is not to be discounted either. It definitely requires skillful play in order to finish the game. More so, if you play as Guy. Arcade was designed to rob people of tokens/coins - although i personally witnessed people playing the arcade version like a champion. Yet the most winning-by-a-landslide card for the Mega-CD is the MUSIC. Maybe i am a little biased because i'm a musician...but back in the 90's, before i even liked music, let alone studied it - i was known not only to ignore it, but recommend it being turned off (!) - "because it overshadowed Haggar's mighty screams" - was my teenage excuse... Many years later, when i started showing interest in music and electric guitar, i used to get a lot of jokes on me for that quote... But the bottom line is, that once i realized what exactly the Mega-CD does with the music, and even learned to play most of the tracks...the rest of the game quickly became synonymous with the arcades for me. Yeah, i know that it is the same melody - but the way arcade renders it - is like it's pissing on the composition, instead of rocking it. Since then i don't touch the arcade version with a ten foot pole. So in the end, it's what defines your personal experience. And for me, it is music; but technically, - the game is more or less the same. Perhaps even more.

@ciaran perry Tried with the MP3 years back - it doesn't work like that. Besides, sounds better live. As for controls, actual arcade did not have rapid fire and the special attack - you had to mash 2 buttons. So that's not better. Yeah, in MAME you can change that stuff, but not in the arcades (as a player). You can though in Mega-CD. Yes, what you say is indeed so, 100 percent - yet there is one "but". For most of that to come into play - you'd have to be an expert player. And you become an expert only through experience - and through learning from people who already are experts. And in the arcades - that was not a given, cause arcades cost money. And where would a boy in early teens get the money?! Let alone someone who's 6-10 years old?! That's right - from parents...or from pooling the meager cents together with the other kids on the block. And these two factors more often than not - would not allow too many attempts at becoming an expert. Unless, for some kids the money was not a problem - and they could become experts, if they liked the game enough. Today, of course, you just fire up MAME, learn some strats from youtube, practice a few days/weeks - and voila, you're an expert player. But back in the day that was not a given. No sir. An average Joe (and i've seen those in droves) most definitely would empty his pockets and die either in the ring against Sodom, or right before the bar - a few moments later. And if the average Joe had only a couple of coins - then death would usually occur at 1st boss - or early train. I've seen that happen way, way too many times to count. Hell, we used to place bets on when will the noob die, lol. And, since the greedy arcade owner had access to dip-switches, - so you had quite a few machines with only 1 life to go around. So the myth is most definitely true.

@ciaran perry :-) i guess that depends on how much you like speed-mashing a single button, and how good you are at it. Not my forte either way...I remember a particular game - Burning Soldier for 3DO (space shooter), which heavily relies on hyper-speed-single-button-mashing in numerous sections, and while i really like that game, - it was a gaming mini-nightmare in this regard: i often needed 2 friends to help take turns in the said task. (as did they, in this particular game) FF arcade is not very far from that for me, so i'm a rapid-fire fan.

@ciaran perry You're right, if you are using this type of tactics +Haggar. But you still need to speed mash a lot nonetheless :-) Especially for Guy / Cody, which were always my choice, cause they looked like martial arts movie heroes. My friends made a pact not to use infinite loops somewhere around 1995. Unlike them, i always preferred Vendetta, cause that one seemed way cooler and more visceral to me (and it still does) and the combat approach was radically different than Final Fight, which i found very interesting.

That isn't always the case, particularly with Mortal Kombat.

Not always. ALMOST always. Chuck Rock 1 - Megadrive has superior music (Yep...surprise!) Same goes for Lethal Enforcers 1, with SFX to boot. Also, some games are entirely different: Frankenstein for Mega CD is a completely different game altogether. (doesn't mean it's better though - just different) Prince of Persia, on the other hand is completely botched for Mega CD, compared to Megadrive.

@@HexenStar Speaking of this topic, I don't think the Sega CD version of Mickey Mania is as good as the Genesis version. The Genesis version has great music by Matt Furniss, but the CD version's music is much less memorable imo. Though, I have to disagree about the Genesis version of Prince of Persia being better than the Sega CD version. It arguably looks better but plays horribly. Neither are as good as the PC-98 version, though, which is what the Sega CD version is based on.

@@thepirategamerboy12 Could be interesting to compare Mickey Mania, from the musical standpoint (and curiosity), as i never showed interest in Disney-cutesy themed games. But Prince of Persia...idk. It plays just like the PC original, and exactly like the similarly styled games, - Flashback, Another World, Blackthorne. At least, judging by my experience and that of my friends, who played this game back on 286/386 processors. So i can't fathom what did you find off with its controls. Maybe you're just not used to the games of this style. As for the looks, surprisingly, but Mega-CD goes for some gross and unforgivable simplifications in graphics/design/detail, while veering into a rather awkward direction thematically. Which is however strange, but not unheard of. Worse things have been known to happen, involving technology far more powerful than Mega-CD.

@@HexenStar Actually, I absolutely love Prince of Persia and games like it such as Another World. The sword-fighting in the Genesis version especially feels awful compared to many other versions. I'd much rather play even the original Apple II version because even though the graphics are basic compared to the Genesis, it plays really well. I've played through and beaten a number of versions and I'd personally say my favorites are the PC-98, SNES, and IBM PC/DOS versions. I'd highly recommend checking out DavidXNewton's videos where he goes through pretty much every version and says which ones are good or not.

I gotta draw the line somewhere. The vid was already over 15 minutes long.

DUDE! That was a GREAT game. Really felt like you were in New York.

I liked the music better on the Genesis for that game..I prefer the darker theme it had especially the first stage

Yes!!!👍

I wouldnt say that j, i have a modded ps classic, and a rasp pi 3 that play sega cd games to perfection. Though to be quite honest, if i had more space, id have a hella good game room. So i do what i can to play these classics, its worth it no matter how you play them

You'll be surprised, but Chuck Rock's music was actually simplified for the Mega CD, compared to Megadrive. Just compare the title theme track. Megadrive has there an entire jazz-rock-funk kind of composition there, with solos and everything. Great material for recording and resurrection. Mega CD cut almost everything out and dumbed down what remained. I was unpleasantly surprised myself when i heard that, but there are a couple of cases like that. Chuck Rock-1 is one of them.

I will say though my favorite retro system is the dreamcast that system just has a special spot in my heart.

@TrueSinister You're right. It was the same gameplay. Someone mixed up 16 and 32 bit. However, Sega/Mega CD version was the only version where you could hear the songs during the race itself. (even though at a slightly worse quality - it wasn't a redbook audio) PS1/Saturn/3DO versions only allowed you to listen to the songs BETWEEN the bike races but not during. Which kinda defeats the purpose of a game soundtrack, but whateves. I guess some kind of a greed issue with the corporate bureaucrats. Or just plain dumb design. The gameplay, however...was beyond competition on the 3DO/PS1/Saturn. 3DO felt the most natural. PS1/Saturn felt like a soulless clone. Mega CD version...with all my love toward that system - was a total garbage. There are some truly time-impervious masterpieces on Mega CD. But Road Rash is not among them. Not even remotely.

Nothing like beating up bikers with chains while listening to Soundgarden

​@MultiTarded Actually I was mistaken. They're in the PCE version, not the MCD version :( But they are unused assets prior to that

Hi can I ask, do Sega CD games run better on Project Lunar than on Retroarch? I'm having a little trouble with Retroarch y'see:) Thanks

@@pintoflitzpiepe stick with retro arch, it's leaps and bounds better than project lunar. There's video on KZfaq that can help guide you through setting up games to run on retroarch. They do have to be .CDI files though if I remember correctly

@@johnboydojo ​ Thanks for getting back to me. I have a Game Enhancer USB stick that I use with the Psone mini. It runs the Sega CD games through Retroarch but they all seem to crash at some point. I'm struggling to find a reason why on here..

@@pintoflitzpiepe what cores are you selecting for Sega CD ROMs? I've never used retroarch on the PS classic so im not quite sure how to help you but I've had Sega CD games running fine on project lunar and retroarch on the megadrive (genesis) mini. Patton plays does great tutorial videos for setting this kind of stuff www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DnTogw05rfbo&ved=2ahUKEwiL0sXS0oztAhXVilwKHXnrB1AQwqsBMAF6BAgbEAM&usg=AOvVaw0Dt1xArgiSPzUBkEAztDK4&cshid=1605721796840 I tend to favour hackchi on the megadrive (genesis) mini purely because it has folder support so you can get more games on there. Eitherway I've not run into problems with either retroarch or project lunar on the genesis mini. If you're not fussed about having loads of games go for lunar, if you want a Ron of games across different systems (master system, 32x etc) go for hackchi and retroarch

The core I'm using is MS/GG/MD/CD(km_Genesis Plus GX)