Semi trailer air ride troubleshooting. Trailer takes too long to air up.

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FLEET REPAIR SOLUTIONS

FLEET REPAIR SOLUTIONS

2 жыл бұрын

Troubleshooting a trailer that takes to long for air bags to air up. Video goes over how air is delivered to air bags with information about height control valve and how the pressure protection valve works, or in this case, failed.
* It's worth noting that in the 10 years I've been working on trailers, I've only replaced 3 other pressure protection valves, and all 3 times it wasn't the problem. PPV are pretty robust and rarely fail. Usually it's another valve, air leak, incorrect plumbing or kinked airlines.

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@wilberleivaguerrero9427
@wilberleivaguerrero9427 19 күн бұрын
Excelent vídeo, fast, detailed and very very useful, thank sir.
@JRLK3RD
@JRLK3RD 7 ай бұрын
Great job! Very thorough, efficient & straight forward. I appreciate you!
@reneolivares7769
@reneolivares7769 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Never seen a video on trailer repair. Need more of that. Thanks
@SemperShock
@SemperShock 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I learned thank you! Waiting for Loves mechanic to tell me what he thinks it is.
@philipadcock3508
@philipadcock3508 4 ай бұрын
Dude keep em coming. The air brake system videos are priceless. I’m studying a lot right now and I understand the operation of most of everything but when reading in a book it’s hard to retain the information. Your videos help a lot.
@ts7989
@ts7989 5 ай бұрын
Best and knowledgeable explanation. Thanks.
@VOLVOUS
@VOLVOUS 5 ай бұрын
Best explained system diagram You explain so well thank you
@alex7289
@alex7289 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video and very informative.
@elebeu
@elebeu 5 ай бұрын
Definitely saving this video for future reference. I ran into this same situation last week, although I didn't know what the value did or was called. I removed the valve and substituted a simple fitting temporarily to verify the problem, then installed a new valve. Thanks.
@fleetrepairsolutions6372
@fleetrepairsolutions6372 5 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks!
@timjoyce9380
@timjoyce9380 2 жыл бұрын
Good explanation! Thanks
@user-oe9do4fr6c
@user-oe9do4fr6c 7 ай бұрын
Thanks now I will look at mine further
@artifacthunter1472
@artifacthunter1472 4 ай бұрын
It’s usually the pressure protection valve!
@Happy-iz5wp
@Happy-iz5wp Жыл бұрын
Great knowledge
@moenimation1189
@moenimation1189 4 ай бұрын
Wry informative thank you for taking the time to record this video and share it 👍🫡
@markiki77
@markiki77 Жыл бұрын
Nice thanks for all
@anthonyrich4763
@anthonyrich4763 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍😎
@Saltacokote
@Saltacokote Жыл бұрын
i think i find my problem solve video will come back and update this if i can have this fix, i have the seme issues. TO BE CONTINUED....
@vidrioandsonstrucking2422
@vidrioandsonstrucking2422 Жыл бұрын
how many psi is the valve my valve is broken and i can't find this is the part #120909......150 psi
@hwyvtrucking4732
@hwyvtrucking4732 2 жыл бұрын
Replaced mine and air bags still won't inflat
@nomadicyak2462
@nomadicyak2462 Жыл бұрын
What are red and blue air liner size on diameter
@fleetrepairsolutions6372
@fleetrepairsolutions6372 Жыл бұрын
It's your standard 3/8" O.D. DOT brake tubing.
@nomadicyak2462
@nomadicyak2462 Жыл бұрын
@@fleetrepairsolutions6372 thank you
@jabariwatson477
@jabariwatson477 6 ай бұрын
What about if you bypass protection valve off and it still airs up slow . I have the same exact problem
@fleetrepairsolutions6372
@fleetrepairsolutions6372 6 ай бұрын
Most likely the height control valve / leveling valve is defective, incorrect or set wrong. But first check for any kinks or leaks anywhere in the air suspension plumbing, even a small leak can cause the airbags to air up slow or not at all. Next I would check the supply tank is getting sufficient pressure from the tractor. After that I would check the operation of the height control valve / leveling valve.
@jabariwatson477
@jabariwatson477 6 ай бұрын
Installed new height valve and no air leaks . I keep hearing like the tank still airing up . Can a tank be defective?
@jabariwatson477
@jabariwatson477 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the pressure out of the tank should be stronger . Does the same thing even with a different tractor . So it’s not on the truck side .
@jabariwatson477
@jabariwatson477 6 ай бұрын
Can the tank be defective? Can the pressure relief valve didn’t let air out meaning it’s not enough pressure
@fleetrepairsolutions6372
@fleetrepairsolutions6372 6 ай бұрын
The tank could be bad, but you would hear the air leaking. You say you hear air constantly moving through the tank...Do you have any thing else plumbed to the air tank that could be consuming air like a tire auto inflation system? If you have a tire leak the system will use the supply tank pressure to try to fill it up, leaving inadequate air pressure to deliver out to the air suspension.
@willmann30
@willmann30 Жыл бұрын
Question for you. At around 6:30 when you supplied air to the trailer the dock stabilizers released instantly thus dropping the trailer. Does the PPV play a role in that? My dock stabilizers take forever to return to travel mode and when it does it slams. Scares the hell out people around 😂😂!
@fleetrepairsolutions6372
@fleetrepairsolutions6372 Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you are talking about the type of dock stabilizer system with the 2 arms that pop out when you release the trailer brakes? If so then no, the air that inflates that small air bag that pushes the arms out is split off of the red supply line, before the air tank. The PPV protects the air inside the tank for braking. It's pretty common for that style of dock stabilizer to slam open, just don't be around the arms when they do... The trailer dropping you saw at 6:30 happens sometimes on a trailer with this type of suspension when you release the trailer brakes while unloaded.
@willmann30
@willmann30 Жыл бұрын
@@fleetrepairsolutions6372 ok cool. Thanks so much for the explanation and clarification. I replaced the PPV for my trailer and it air up pretty quickly. But it was an aftermarket. I now have the Haldex original that the trailer came with and will install that one instead. Hopefully it'll fill up faster once the tank is charged.
@pernellfogle7957
@pernellfogle7957 Жыл бұрын
What if there is no air in the tank
@fleetrepairsolutions6372
@fleetrepairsolutions6372 Жыл бұрын
The trailer supply tank is fed by the red glad, down the trailer through red brake tubing and enters the supply tank via the emergency relay valve. With your trailer brakes released, confirm there is no major air leaks at any of these locations. If no leaks are found the next most likely cause for the tank not airing up would be the emergency relay valve malfunctioning. Depending on the style you have these are an easy and inexpensive replacement.
@nathanmorgan2917
@nathanmorgan2917 Жыл бұрын
What if the bags over inflate I've tried switching the leveling valve the pressure valve still over inflates
@fleetrepairsolutions6372
@fleetrepairsolutions6372 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanmorgan2917 The pressure protection valve is probably working. It only shuts off air to the accessory it's plumbed in line with when air tank pressure drops below a certain level. There's no upper limit on the PPV, so if the tank has 125 psi, the PPV will deliver 125 psi the the accessory, in this case the air bag. The volume of air that reaches the air bag is controlled by the moveable arm on the height control valve. Raising the lever adds more air to the bags, and lowering it let's air out. Your problem may be that the ride height is set incorrectly, meaning the adjustable rod that is connected to the height control valve arm is set in the wrong position and letting too much air into the air bags.
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