…and PXC 330 which I have hahah

I’m glad you like them

What do you think of the build quality? Have you ever noticed creaking around the plastic ear pieces whenever you are wearing the headphone?

@@AmericanRoads no it aint no sony

Any updates for the headphones guys. I saw many reviews have problems after 1 month use.

@@everythingcanwork5215 Not a single problem. I have travelled multiple times with these, quality just continues to blow me away. Flew for 6.5 hours last week, battery level was an insane 91% left when I landed. I cannot speak more highly of the Momentum 4's, so good.

do you have the m3s as well tested ?

I agree so many good software updates have made them better and better equalizer too

Awesome! Thank you! 🥰

That review is coming next

@@GYMCADDY Would be nice to hear mic quality difference, especially in noisy environments, with people voices

I love the Momentum 3 sound and was kinda disappointed that in M4, it's not even equal to M3... Maybe you know some ANC headphones alternatives that could sound even better than Momentum 3?

@@shakhtyor There really isn't anything that's discernably better than the M3s yet in terms of bluetooth headphones. Sound quality *is* subjective after a certain point, what you like and what music you listen to will always play a part. But for me personally I haven't been able to find anything close.

@@eiatos I have the M3. And love them. However I find they sound bit boxed in compared to sound stage on m4.

Are you satisfied with momentum 4? I’m now using pxc 550ii and thinking go to momentum 4, did you fell better sound quality?

"Because most of the reviewers are just disguised salesman that work in partnership with these brands"

Why do you think there are no other reviews out there comparing the 3 vs 4 with the conclusion being the 3 is still better on a lot of important points...

I’ve got 3 more videos in the way

@@GYMCADDY looking forward!! Honestly I was dayly checking your channel to see this, whilst watching other reviews.

Totally agree. Will do the same.

Wooooo!

🥰🥰🥰

I too found the vegan M4 pads to be immediately hot and sweaty compared to the leather on my M2s which feel cool for a long time, before heat builds up. Then a brief rest would cool them down again. Im really hoping Sennheiser or a 3rd party will bring out upgraded leather replacement psds. They would be well worth the upgrade! Sounds is certainly improvement over my old M2s. I found the leather pads on my M2 provide superior passive isolation of bassy noise such as neighbour's noisy car, which the M4s can't block, even with the superior ANC. But I'm keen to try and get some M3s to replace the M4s! I waited so long for the M4s, hoping they would be equal build quality then M3s, but with aptX Adaptive. Sadly they've taken a step backward in my opinion. Maybe they'll suprise us with a M4 premium edition after everyone has bought M4s. Same soecs, but in metal and leather! Haha.

@@jamiecampbell1271 lol lmao premium M4's would make me so butthurt but if a new color combo pops up that id like or a premium ed i wouldnt be able to resist cuz i love em too much😂 some replacement pads are def something im hoping for too. I havent had the M2's i got the M1s way back then recently the 3's & a couple days after got the 4's locally for 200$ Which i couldnt pass on. Overall i love these sennys & theres just minimal areas left for improvement now so we'll see what the future may hold.

is ear cup size the same? or momentum 3 bigger?

I did a lot of research before buying the Momentum 3s and they seemed to be suffering from a lot of the same software and firmware issues for the first few months of release so they'll probably work that out eventually. They're good headphones but I just really preferred how the M3's feel both in sound and build. I'll learn to live with a 17hr battery.

They resolved most of these issues in recent software update. Also introduced 5 band equalizer. I prefer the sound on m4 over my m3.

​@@stephenknight6562 So they already improved the momentum 4 or were you referring to the momentum 3???

Just get the M3s if you’re ever planning to upgrade. I think he’s leaning slightly towards the M3s for sound quality and bass. Plus, the M4s look too generic, like the competitors. M2s and 3s carry that old school unique Sennheiser look. I’ve owned the M3s for about a year now and so far they’re the best sounding headphones I’ve ever put on my head.

@@ceezare3039 have you tried the M2's and compared? How much of an improvement are the M3's over the M2's? They're on sale because they're "outdated" now and I'm tempted, but I'm not sure if it's worth spending 200 if they're pretty similar to what I have

@@michaelminevich1198 the M2 and M3 sound identical.

@@Odie50000thanks! That's good to know. I guess it probably doesn't make much sense to buy the M3's if my M2 's are still working great. My only problem with them at all is that the head band is pretty hard, with no real cushion

@@michaelminevich1198 Yeah that part does suck. From what I can tell the bands between 2 and 3 are very similar too so there wouldn't be that much of an upgrade either.

Sounds the same to me either way. I tend to keep anc off tho so I can still be present

hahahaha. He will never answer you. Just get over the momentum 3, the 4 is already a worthy upgrade for the noise cancelling, more light-weight and comfortable design, and the touchpad control. You might assume you are not a fan of touchpads based on what some people on youtube say, but try it out for yourself, most of them are on a crazy load of BS.

@@jasonMB999 Yeah sucks that he doesnt reply to comments especially when dude has 90 comments. He just has to take a little time out of his day to reply.

I have the PXC 550 and used them for years now. Always loved the sound - they sound better than any Bose or Sony I tried. Today I got my Momentum 4 and compared them for some time. Suddenly, the PXC 550 sound like Bose to me! There's so much more detail and clarity in the M4's sound! So if you like both your 660 and the M3, I guess you won't feel that the M4 are a downgrade compared to the M3. From what I can remember (don't have the M3 here, but compared in a store), the M3's bass is boosted in the mid/upper punch region, the M4 has more sub bass extension and rumble. This rumble shows less often, so the M3 kick in more tracks. The mids sound similar, but I found them to be a tiny bit cleaner on the M3 when you engaged the High Fidelity Sound Tuning. On my M4, I reduced the mids by about 2-3db, feels more neutral to me. I couldn't hear a noticeable difference in treble. Soundstage on the M3 seemed to be a tad wider, but depth, height and imaging were a little better on the M4. I'd say get the M4, but pay attention to the comfort, the earpads are shallower than the other two. Especially compared to the 550/660. All in all, they combine most of the benefits of the M3 and the PXC 550 and bring them to the present. Also the build is better than the PXC 550. I just think that the look & feel of the M3 was way better...

@@VeitLehmann, I get you. For the money it will cost and the fact that I will lose something from the ones I have - I will wait till Momentum 5. I love the styling of the momentum 3 and the lightness of the 660/550. The sound from both is just amazing, and the idea that I don't get a significant bump and have to deal with some negatives is not worth it. I might get a pair of the 4s to try, but I do NOT think I will be selling or switching out. The ones I have will do me for now. I take several long flights a year, and the 660s are plenty noise cancelling for me - even though I know there is better out there. The sound quality is excellent, and when I want even better, I have the Momentum 3s. If I want to go further, I have a pair of HD650s to count on, but they are more for home and are static. The 4s are a bit of a disappointment. The styling of the 3s was a big selling point, but the planeness of the 4s turns me off. If they were super duper in the sound department, I would have jumped in, but the thought that there would be any compromise fills me with dread. I have kept the M3s over the H95s, the Sonys, the AirPods, and every oncomer because the sound is sublime. I need something objectively better and offer no compromises to make a switch. Looking at the H95 again, the Focal, the ML5909 and some others to see if it is worth making the jump, but the 4s miss it for me. Have to do a detailed listen in a shop but have yet to hold out much hope. So very grateful for your thoughts and advice, though. Really appreciate it. Truly.

@@iu1191 Absolutely, sticking with your current stuff is always the best if you're happy with it. As long as you're okay with switching, the M4 is not better than the M3 and the PXC combined. And I also appreciate when people don't needlessly buy new electronics, it's better for our planet to be mindful about resources. I had to switch because my PXC 550 was unreliable in the end and could suddenly turn off in the middle of a call - that's a no-go. Still keeping them as a backup, and I still think they're something special and still unmatched in certain areas. Same with the M3, both are very unique for their own reasons. You have two real classics, enjoy them as long as you can!

The new model has been delayed. Idk when it is going to come out. If you’re happy with the pulse 4. Keep it for that price if you want the lights. But if you want better sound at that price, get the charge 5

can you provide any updates? how did the new pair performed?

Any update?

Any update?

@Brice Rosa Well I personally just got some M3s and the Bluetooth connection is impeccable. Get them.

@@Odie50000 thank you. I'm actually leaning to them as I heard you can turn off anc vs the m4s

Px7 s2 coming.

​@GYMCADDY which one should i buy now momentum 4 or 3 My priority sound and anc

This is very helpful. I use my pxc550 and the soundstage on the default setting is unlike anything. The only pair that will overcome the soundstage is AirPods Max. But they are too expensive and they REALLY have the cabin pressure issue. So I'm not getting them.

​@@TheWolod I just received my Momentum 4 and did a sound comparison with my old PXC 550. I'm blown away! The M4 sound so much better! Deeper bass, so much clearer allover, especially in the mids and treble! Suddenly, the PXC 550 sound like a Bose in comparison. And the PXC 550 sound a lot better than any Bose already. One thing that I immediately noticed is that the soundstage on the PXC 550 is way worse on a Mac, but this might be because it only uses SBC there (1st generation). So I did my comparison on my phone using AptX to be fair. Still, the M4 have far better soundstage and especially imaging. I can finally get a sense of depth and height. Maybe the M3 sounded wider, I don't remember, but the M4's soundstage is still bigger in any dimension compared to the PXC 550. Sometimes I can hear the sub bass boost of the M4, sounds like a subwoofer in a perfectly damped room. Think of cinema sound. You can hear frequencies down to almost 20Hz. I can't really tell how high they go, I can only hear up to 16kHz. But I can tell that the treble is a lot less peaky, more tidy and airy compared to the PXC 550. I reduced the mids by about 3db in the app EQ to get rid of the slight mid-forwardness. Now they sound very linear to my ear, with that slight extra power in the lower bass. But this does never get in the way of other frequencies, i. e. it always stays clean and e. g. bass guitars are very well separated from the kick drums and keep their timbre (very important for me, I play the bass guitar). So all in all I'm more than happy with the sound and can say that it's definitely a big improvement over the PXC 550! Usability is pretty similar to the PXC 550, I felt right at home with them immediately. But one issue that I found is that when it's paired with both a Mac and an Android phone, and I'm playing music from the phone, the touch controls for volume up/down and skip tracks don't work. I either have to disconnect the Mac or use the phone to control the playback. As for comfort: The PXC 550 fit my ears better. The earpads are deeper (2cm-3cm, compared to 1.8cm-2.5cm), and that's enough for my ears to slightly touch the drivers. The clamping force is slightly higher on the M4, but I don't feel the extra weight after 3 hours of constant use now. Also, I don't have any pressure on the top of my head. So if your ears stick out a lot, you should pay attention. For me, it's on the limit, only just acceptable. But since I'm so happy with the sound and the usability, I'll learn to get along with it.

Volume level? Which one louder?

@@trebleclef4889 I believe from this selection it should be the Momentum 3. But they have the weakest ANC. Better get something with good ANC and save your ears, you don't need crazy volume then. The M4 easily gets loud enough to really get going! PXC 550 are the quietest of the three.

You can watch my versus video where I compare the momentum 4 to both of Sonys headphones

M4 sounds better than M3? Then why is everyone criticizing their sound quality?

I found the bass detail of the M4 to be one of their biggest strength! The best when I compared them to lots of other cans (PX7 S2, Sony XM4 and XM5, Momentum 3, PXC 550 and some Bose; I have never tried AirPods Max however). They were the best in terms of instrument separation, so you can really tell what's the bass guitar and what's the kick drum for example. There's even a sense of space, the bass is not happening inside of your head. The only thing to note is that you can sometimes hear a boost in the sub bass. So if there's really deep bass in a track, it can sound more pronounced than intended. Sounds like a subwoofer in a perfectly damped room then, think of cinema sound. So not perfectly neutral, but could be exciting for movies. And even when you can feel that boost, it never gets in the way of the upper bass frequencies, everything stays clean there. Also, I have never encountered the bass bleeding into the mids. The M3 have a similar sense of space, separation and detail in the bass, but they have less sub bass, more a mid bass boost. You can hear that boost more often, which often makes them sound more punchy in comparison. I'd say they are the 2nd best option in terms of bass detail. All the other aspects of the M4's sound are also top-notch - I love them. (disclaimer: I just received them today and tested them for 3 hours now, so I'm still in the honeymoon phase)

@@VeitLehmannon point!

Return them and get the M3. Far better quality imo

@@chefgav1 I returned them and I got the AirPods Max. I absolutely love them.

I tried them in different stores. I like m4 sound more. H95 is only better crafted.

H95 cause they’re more comfortable

Glad you liked it!

and in m3 you can?

Last time that I checked, no

How are the m3s better than M4? Isn’t M4 supposed to be better? Which is louder?

Sony is dogs#*t, Sennheiser ANY DAY! Sennheiser is a brand made for audiophiles and focuses primarily on premium audio!

Get sony

get pxc550 ii for 12k as it is the best possible deal for an audophile headphones.

I actually have this issue too. When I'm walking around often this stupid cracks and clicks appears too, but in the left and right ear cup. Not inside the ear it cracks and clicks, but on the outside of the ear cups. Maybe it's due by the plasticy build.

Yes, any slight movement in the plasic hinges creak and are amplified within the plastic surround. Even from just facial muscular movement. I've found the right side is especially bad on mine. Extreanly annoying. If I can get s hold of a new pair of M3s fire a clearance price, I'll probably grab them and sell the M4s. If not I'll experiment with some lubricants. Maybe a spray of silicon will help. Ive upgraded from 6 year old M2s which are so much better built. I doubt the M4s will last anywhere near as long.

Return and get the M3. Far higher quality imo

@@chefgav1 why would anyone buy the M4 if the M3s are better? Aren’t the M4 supposed to be a better and upgraded version?

Glad you liked the video

Nope

@@GYMCADDY 😭😭😭

This is because these are BT Headphones, all Bluetooth Headphones Sounds like ass when they pluged in via cable. Because BT Headphones have a dedicated amplifier built in, so every time you turn on your Headphone the amp will start working. If you leave them off and plug them in, the amp is also turned off. Thats the reason why they sound so Bad. They are tuned with this proper amp inside them, not passively when they're off. Hope that helped you😌

@@Hank_Johnson Thanks for the reply. Yes, I think when I switch them on they sound better with that cable (in both cases I am using a 3.5mm to USB-C adapter to hook them to my phone. And if I want to use the USB-C - USB-C cable with my phone they must be switched on else they don't work at all with that cable when they are off. Also, i just got the BTD600 Bluetooth adapter, and I am trying figure out the best audio connection (and possible the ones that takes less battery on the phone and headphones)

I find the momentum 3 very comfortable.

Are there any other wireless ANC headphones that sound at least as good as the Momentum 3? And perhaps even better?

I love the Momentum 3 sound quality... Do you know, are there any other wireless ANC headphones that sound at least as good as the Momentum 3? And perhaps even better?

@@shakhtyor I have no idea. I have tried those popular Sony XM5's . Those headphones are pretty good too. but I returned them and kept my Momentum 3s. Idk what it is but I love the sound of these better. Perfect tight bass.. low mids.. and treble is perfect.

I’ll admit, I have been a sennheiser fan boy for the last few months. But I feel the Momentum 4’s were over hyped.

@@GYMCADDY I agree

I think they prioritized functioning over style with the momentum 4

Bose. But mainly for tracking.

I have both and tend to go for the sennheiser m4. The sound is alot better and I find the comfort similar. Anc is similar but the sound is just something else. I use them mainly for commutes and flights

I have them both sound momentum 4 but ANC Bose 45 all day

@@GYMCADDY sorry, but what do you mean exactly by tracking?

Still trying g to decide