pls tell me how they perform if you get them. ty

@@carlX53 Well, in short, I love them. Previously I had a pair of SONY WH-CH700N. I can only compare the two. The Sennys have much more defined and deep bass. It's night and day. It's very clear and only reveals distortion in the recording itself. In fact, one of the Sennys faults is that if your recording has any inconsistencies, you're going to hear them much more clearly. The soundstage is fairly wide for closed back cans. I can now hear so many more details in recordings. Songs I have listened to for years sound new or "remixed". Both my old Sonys and the new Sennys use the aptX CODECs (aptX HD in the case of my phone and straight up aptX on my PC (Windows 10 Pro)). I have noticed more lag in movies than before but I was able to offset the audio in Kodi and that issue is solved. No considerable lag when watching something like KZfaq. I haven't tested PC games yet but they seem fine so far. WAPATI out on Kodi resulted in way too overblown a bass response so a switch to DIRECT SOUND solves this issue. Now movies sound amazing and really take advantage of the improved soundstage. The Bluetooth connection is rock solid. I have way more range than with my old Sonys and areas of my house that used to drop out no longer do. Also, my old Sonys would occasionally lose connection for a few seconds every so often, on the random. This is no longer the case. The APP on my Android phone (LG V30 ThinQ) runs really well. I don't think people really understand the APP. You connect it up, adjust your parameters and it's saved to the cans. You don't really have to run the APP after that. So if it does disconnect, it's not a failing of the software, it's just not being used anymore so it disconnects until you need to make more adjustments. The multipoint works without the APP connected, the EQ settings are retained. The multipoint works a charm by the way. I pause content on my PC and play something on my phone and it just switches within a second (and vice versa). I can't live without it now. Yes, these cans are considerably quieter than my old Sonys. I haven't yet come across a situation where they weren't loud enough for me but they do have a much sooner to reach upper limit. As far as the sound, again, if your source is not a great quality you are going to really hear it. They're very analytical in that way. A crunchy, 8 BIT sample is going to stick out like a sore thumb. But if you are listening to a good source, these things just sing. And they sound good with any genre I can throw at it. EDM and Electronic tracks just come alive and the bass is absolutely fantastic. You can almost feel it, like there is a huge subwoofer at your feet. Orchestral music and soundtracks are particularly good. Again, the great soundstage is apparent here. Rock music might want a bit more in the MIDS but, again, this all depends on your source. The mistake to make with these Sennheisers is expecting them to make everything you listen to sound better. Some stuff just doesn't sound good at all and it's because of their revealing nature. A bad mix or a less than quality recording will be amplified just as a good recording would be. It's been three days and I am in love with these things. Keeping in mind that I haven't compared them to the newer Sony offerings, I do recommend them. I hope this helps. 🎧

@@TheDigitalBear thank you for your time, i recently got them and i kinda think the sound quality is a bit overrated tbh, can u maybe share your EQ, maybe that could make it sound 350 dollars worth, ty

@@carlX53 I find them a bit quiet

​@@carlX53 What headphones have better sound quality?

So DAC mode is when you have the device plugged directly into a source using the USB cable. That uses the internal DAC on the headphones and the DSP to give you the same tuning as wireless but at a higher resolution since you're wired. Plugging in the with the 3.5mm cable in strict wired mode bypasses the DSP and gives you a different overall sound. Hopefully that makes sense!

@@BloomAudio tottaly does thanks.

Yeah bass boost off bass and treble all the way up and the middle 1 past the middle

how did these perform on the dac amp, i love fiio, does the headset get louder and higher quality once the dac is applied? thx so much

@@cr4zy4christ Haven't tried the M4's with the amp... As for the 560s, i would say the sound in general got 10% better... The bass got a little bit tighter and louder. For example, on some shows I notice that without the amp I couldn't hear the background street noise in the show... With the amp I could hear the background rumble and details of the street noise.

@@cr4zy4christ I forgot... Of course they can get like 50 or 70% louder with the amp, to unlistenable levels without distortion.

so true… we just can’t have the cake and eat it too

Sorry, Sennheiser didn't provide us with an IPX rating or information on water resistance in the specs or product info, and there's nothing in the user manual that I saw.

I would jump to the Momentum 4 if something like the improved features or battery-life appealed to you, but I imagine that many people who loved the Momentum 3 will prefer it's slightly more balanced tuning over the bass heavier Momentum 4.

@@BloomAudio Thank you for your reply. It will help me decide.

Thanks! We're trying to balance a fairly high level of ambient noise with the general listenability of the video. We've been trying to tweak the noise reduction to sound more natural without making the video sound like we shot it next to a wind tunnel. :)

The sound is definitely great for most modern music, including rock, rap, alternative, and metal, but probably the only complaint we've gotten is that with iPhone in particular, some people aren't able to get it as loud as they want it.

@@BloomAudio o ok well I'm hearing the bowers and Wilkins px8 rocks so I might look into that too

Turn off the bass boost and turn off the wind reduction on the anc and make sure the eq is tuned to your liking. I had the AirPod pro and after tuning I prefer the sound of the seinnheiser’s and they seem a little bit louder

Liar 😂😂😂

@TheChilator Did you find a solution to this? Haven't pulled the trigger on any over the ear headphones because of this reason. My AirPods Pro 2 I find are louder than the Sony xm5 which are the only ones I've tried and apparently they're louder than the momentum 4 but the Sony xm5 sound horrible imo.

Surprisingly no. I think the off white color marks dirt and dust really well. One of our staff at Bloom has the Accentum Plus with the same white color, and it seems to mask dirt, dust, and general wear and tear actually better than similar black headphones.

@@BloomAudio wow! Okay, cause i was really debating on the color. The white looks amazing but i was hesitant to buy it because i was afraid of it getting dirty and looking old easily than the black ones. So i was thinking maybe the black would be better than the white. So i guess white would be better than black then!

The bathys are in a different league in comparison, but they’re 3x the price.

Bathys are for bathy boys😂

lol yup

I agree with this and they still haven't fixed this through updates

​@@geminiwoeI've seen a lot of people mentioning the off-balance issue. Mine don't have that. Have you tried reaching out to Sennheiser for warranty support? I think these come with a two-year warranty.