Setting Up an Indie Vicon MOCAP Studio

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Setting Up an Indie Vicon MOCAP Studio

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This week I've massively upgraded my indie virtual production studio to have a Vicon Optical Motion Capture system. You can think of this as a VERY high end Steam VR system for tracking humans, props, and cameras.
PRICING: this "INDIE" Vicon system is ball park $50K US. There are smaller configurations as well.
My first goal is to get the best LIVE MetaHuman performance capture I can in Unreal Engine. After that I'd like to test out their camera tracking pipeline for green screen virtual production in Unreal Engine.
Big thanks to Vicon Support Team as I stumble through learning how to make this all work together in Unreal Engine!

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@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

1. ALL of this MOCAP footage was recorded live from Unreal Engine, no post processing, clean up, or motion editing. If I spend a few hours cleaning up, it will be absolutely perfect. 2. PRICING: for THIS "Indie" Vicon system is ball park $50K US. There are smaller configurations available as well.

@cpichado 2 жыл бұрын

I like how your small room is twice the size of my apartment, lol! Are we talking 6-figure enterprise budget for this 10-camera system, or would it be under $30K for this? Just to get an idea of how jealous I should be, lol!

@mrtobycook 2 жыл бұрын

Each sensor is approx $3k, so I’d guess this setup is about $50k? :) but that’s just a guess

@MikiboMusic 2 жыл бұрын

where can we buy all this equipment ?

@Chrismarquez7 2 жыл бұрын

I was a VFX technician at Fox working on Avatar 2 and 3, among many other films. That set up you have there is pretty amazing for how small and simple it is, the movements are impressively clear and smooth. Mind you, the most recent motion capture stage we built for another film, required 300 cameras. ☹️ Took several months just to wire the stage with ethernet cables. I have a couple scenes I need to shoot motion capture if you’re interested in taking a peek. Let me know! Any interest in shooting a 60 second trailer? :)

@amathma 2 жыл бұрын

Yes do it guys please

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! We probably know some common MOCAP tech friends like the Derry's. Wiring 300 cameras sounds like massive project. I'm spending pretty much every day learning the system and making demos so I can create animations for my game Cine Tracer. Maybe after that is settled I would have to time for other projects and I would actually know what I was doing lol.

@nymarekintvilik8371 2 жыл бұрын

phasespace is another good one as well.

@CinematicCaptures 2 жыл бұрын

Daaaamn, that looks CLEAN.

@TheXarxus 2 жыл бұрын

Vicon user here, you will be shocked again while running the camera tracking with it. absolutely smooth and stable tracking.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m excited to see it, coming from using Vive Trackers and Intel Realsense. I need to make a crown/tiara.

@bestplanetever6048 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing to see so much progress over the past two years!

@Hawaiianspawn 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck my dude! Based on how well it can track those smaller finger trackers. You can totally do 10 finger set ups. I am fighting for my studio to use it but you know how it is. Get some form of video into your calibration set up. 1.6 added SDI tracking features if you marker up a camera. SUPER HELPFUL to get an accurate skeleton since you can just refer to it. The other advice I have about it is Vicon will twist the hands up after the initial calibration. Get into shogun post and straighten out the wrist in your T Pose Frames, then fix the fingers. Remember the markers are "hovering" over your fingers so the real bone is much lower than where it is normally constrained to. Feel free to reach out.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I just bought some gloves and I'm going glue the 9mm markers onto them. I'll show it in the next vlog but I have the rubber band finger mounts and they cut off circulation and it's almost impossible for one person to do the 10 finger tracking setup without help. I do a have a few Blackmagic SDI cards laying around and a Ursa G2 I could use as a witness/view camera for doing the built in overlays in the future. I'm still just taking it one step at a time.

@brianmcquain3384 2 жыл бұрын

Feeding the algorithm! Thanks for the content! I love the media!

@pushREC 2 жыл бұрын

Mad dancing skills Matt - glad to see the world is starting to catch up with virtual production! 💪

@RaviTomar__ 2 жыл бұрын

Cnt believe you are able to pull this off all by urself buddy!! This is some really heavy stuff made look like a piece of cake thanks to ur exceptional skills!! U rock man !

@mocap_tobi 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Vicon mocap world!

@MoorishMade 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the series. It has helped me a lot. I’m looking into the rokoko 2 next year. Plus, awesome dance moves lol

@louis.blythe 2 жыл бұрын

Wow pumped! This is so good thanks for making the video. Looking to get into mocap today. Thanks for being a great resource!

@98765theyoutuization 2 жыл бұрын

SUPER IMPRRESED ! You shared great info in this video thank you !

@WalkarSajid 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, I never knew how it worked.

@rodszera 2 жыл бұрын

very nice dancing moves! I loved it haha

@JoshGonsalves 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! This is coming together really nicely Matt! Please keep vlogging. This is awesome man

@user-ik8vy1rg8f 2 жыл бұрын

Some of the best work I've seen you do so far!

@hazonku 2 жыл бұрын

This is nuts. I love it!

@miltonmenezes5682 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Body, hands and face cap all together would be cool! And if you can show the different gears and what you suggest as the best options out there both in price and effectiveness.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Optical hands is definitely the next step with some voice work. At some point I feel like I can semi accurately compare VRMOCAP, inertial, and optical now.

@MzTypeOHnegative 2 жыл бұрын

Truly groundbreaking just wow

@Fofamit 2 жыл бұрын

Super excited to see this!

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

our conversation on your live stream literally sparked this into existence

@Fofamit 2 жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase Honestly super looking forward to what you do with this 👀

@HansCarrillo 2 жыл бұрын

Nice dude! That looks clean right out of engine.

@TheAcSstudio 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, old school viewer passing by, holy man... so this is what you fucking about looks like. DIY KZfaq stuff fringe! ggwp

@original9vp 2 жыл бұрын

Very exciting!

@SolomonJagwe 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man!! Now that's some seriously stable mocap data. Can you roll around on the ground?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

rolls have been requested, I'll do some more floor stuff next soon

@TiagoTiagoT 2 жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase Are the little balls like spongey or something?

@amathma 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, as you said it's good to start with a rokoko suits. And if it's for a business Vicon offers really good system.

@blizado3675 2 жыл бұрын

Missed that video, so it is really without post processing, impressiv how good this system is and how much work and time you safe with it (and it makes sure more fun with it to have directly useable motion data) and it makes flawless live tracking possible at all. I'm sure it is not a cheap product at all.

@AdamSmith-zq5sr 2 жыл бұрын

Very Cool! Excited to follow this!

@jimmydean2633 2 жыл бұрын

This is dope forreal 🔥

@Blinkisageek 2 жыл бұрын

So dope.

@chosenonemedia8337 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, super cool! Keep it up bro!

@CARTEBLANCHE_MV 2 жыл бұрын

man i love watching your video's keep it up bro !!!

@ayiboan2 2 жыл бұрын

soo the big question is how much did this exactly cost because you can see optitracks pricing on there website but you cant see vicons pricing so people cant really compare them to see wich they should go for with the budget that they have... but the results look really good my man 👍keep it up!

@DKindenssFilms 2 жыл бұрын

40k is like the min.Vicon is very expensive however from speaking to a rep they said they do lones and package deals where you can get more cams for a period of time

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

pricing has been addressed in pinned comment

@BlackStudiosXR 2 жыл бұрын

Impressive

@ognjentoholj5991 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice!

@uja1096 2 жыл бұрын

Would like to see a pros and cons video with other cheaper systems you've used compared to vicon.

@Rattlik 2 жыл бұрын

Feels like I happen to be in an uncanny valley again :D realism is too hard! Good work though :D

@uja1096 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a complete workflow process? As a one man band, how would you record the camera movement and perform motion capture?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

I will definitely produce a lengthy almost real time operation video showing how it works. Ideal would be two people to run this, but with a wireless mouse one person can get it all working to the quality shown in this video.

@SafriFam 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the work and info you are sharing with us. Want to start with rokoko to make some 3d to real world dance routines with my wife. But it's not easy to try any of this mocap systems in Ukraine 😅 So maybe some day )

@reddcube 2 жыл бұрын

Nice thing about Ethernet cables, is they can be shortened. Just cut them and crimp on a new end.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not electronically inclined to attempt that, but good to know that it's possible. I'll just live with the jungle of ethernet slack lol.

@shekiba.646 2 жыл бұрын

I used that work alot not easy. But other Rokoko suits without track room better.

@forhoror5562 2 жыл бұрын

unbelievable

@OranjeDeLuXe 2 жыл бұрын

really great videos 👍🏼 can you tell me how to get the cool unreal cap 😎 it's really nice

@SeanLake3D 2 жыл бұрын

Love it. Does anyone have suits for bigger folks, though? I've not seen any in my quick research.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah optical suits definitely have a range of sizes as they are purely fabric, no electronics. You can also just use Velcro wraps around your arms and body. It’s just Velcro at the end of the day, so you could make your own MOCAP suit from anything really. On the inertial MOCAP side, Perception Neuron 3 and Xsens Awinda both have strap systems, so they just wrap around your arms and body.

@seanlake7404 2 жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase Exactly. I've used the PN suits for that exact reason. It's just frustrating if a larger user wanted to use those suits. I mean, like you said, though, one could really just adapt the "hardware" end of the suits, I guess, to be custom straps only. I've seen it done with some newer live VR Immersive experience setups have done something very similar and devised durable solutions without a suit. Good idea, may have to do that so that I can use the other tech.

@AnimatorsJourney 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I've performed on a vicon stage before and am just starting with a rokoko setup so I can confirm that difference in fidelity is pretty amazing to use the Vicon. But also curious like other commenters on the price tag of this system for the 10 camera setup. Were the 10 cameras the minimum? Or recommended amount by Vicon? Or it just depends on the size of the volume you measured out for your space before you purchased that dictated 10 cameras? Thanks!

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

The workflow is to spec your performance space and your goals, like how many performers, height (think stairs, etc.), props, and then they recommend the setup while working with your general price range. It's not an off the shelf product. I do hope they are able to release a general pricing range so people have an idea. However, I'm not at cleared to give pricing myself at the moment.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

pricing is addressed in pinned comment. Vicon recommended this camera setup, it depends on your space and what type of action you want to capture

@duilioforte 2 жыл бұрын

Great!

@TiagoTiagoT 2 жыл бұрын

With something this expensive (I assume it's not gonna be anywhere near the cost of consumer VR tracking if it's supposed to be so much better); you would expect it would have some sort of automatic calibration, adjusting of zoom, focus etc...

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

I asked them about that and having FIZ motors would dramatically increase the size and cost of each camera. Which is true with the encoded lenses I’ve used for Broadcast and cinema. Once you set the FIZ, you also lock them down, so you wouldn’t get a lot of use with them. They would probably require more power too. It would make setup easier though of course.

@ROknowsThaTruth 2 жыл бұрын

I Love It G

@Dante02d12 2 жыл бұрын

Oh cool, the tracking is so smooth! I wonder if I can afford it? *Reads the description.* HOW MUCH????!!!! Seriously though, this is very cool. But definitely not indie at this price. Have you tried motion capture with SteamVR trackers? Sure it's not a _nanometer_ level of precision, but you can easily get 4 base stations or more, with 13 trackers, for much less than 50k$... You'd get a very decent result.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ve written full body IK Control Rigs for 4-11 point SteamVR Vive Trackers and or Tundras. The tracking hardware for Vive is quite good. It’s the body solve and retarget that is the bigger/noticeable difference from Vicon.

@ycdigital7953 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate you sharing! Do we have to spend money on software monthly or annually?

@Howhindi Жыл бұрын

i'm interested this setup, how can i buy, please give link full setup pack, as possible please

@Ranger7Studios 2 жыл бұрын

Can you run the cables through the inside of the drop ceiling? That will help to hide them. :)

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

yeah I definitely could, I would have to drill a whole or something though which is really messy and TBO above the drop ceiling scares me... ghosts up there lol

@uzizizu 10 ай бұрын

do you still use it? haven't seen any mocap videos from you for a long time..

@AndrewJohnRevell2017 2 жыл бұрын

That is very good. impressively clear and smooth. At the moment I am getting a full Rokoko system because it is my first time. Yes it is a hobby. :-) I do love your helmet. I am looking for one. Where can I get them? Thanks for sharing with us. Cheers

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Rokoko is great, it’s how I first learned how to do this. The helmet is a Standard Deviation HMC, if you search that it should come up. It’s the best solution for iPhone capture right now

@DaRealXXLSlayer 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like the problem with come in whereas if they customize the cameras to do one thing but then my animation job expands that the cameras would not be suited for When you’re looking at prices like that Where is when you look at other software that does the exact same thing Where they can give you a base price on their website because their cameras cover all functions

@BruceTaylorRMS Жыл бұрын

What is the budget on this kind of setting? I’m thinking a large room or hall. Thanks

@saviyou 2 жыл бұрын

You have a drop ceiling, why not run the cables up through them?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

It's kind of nasty up there and dirty as I'd have to drill a hole into at least one panel and then a BIG hole in the final panel. Or remove panels. I might end up doing some sort of cable management down the line.

@saviyou 2 жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase that makes sense. The IT guy in me just triggered by a waterfall of wires 😂

@supremebeme 2 жыл бұрын

cool

@carli0215 2 жыл бұрын

Hi,What version is your VIcon camera, Vero2.2 or 1.3?

@mszczesnik Жыл бұрын

I'm curious what are you using for facial mocap?

@jgibbs027 2 жыл бұрын

Looks great. Are you still shooting on the URSA Pro? Is that still the entry level camera available with Genlock?

@operators-verse Жыл бұрын

The face animations are Vicon as well or LiveLink?

@cameronmackness7649 2 жыл бұрын

Can you share your Shogun to Meta Human workflow are you doing any re targeting and if so where?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ll show the Shogun Retargeting, it’s ✨amazing✨. I would have to do it all in Motion Builder otherwise.

@ferrucobz 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Matt! Amazing work! is there any documentation or resource that explains the process you follow to do the retarget of the livestreaming from vicon shogun to ue in your metahuman ? Thanks Matt

@hasanhina86 Жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, which headgear are you recommending for iPhone capture?

@CinematographyDatabase Жыл бұрын

The Standard Deviation is probably the best for iPhone (heavy) HMD work. Facegood is also an option and comes with the camera+helmet.

@Solovision2024 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have an example of a person using a motion capture suit with a green screen suit over it so the actor can interact with the real environment then replace green screen actor with animated character.

@user-mp2pg8vb3e 2 жыл бұрын

Are the videos in the video cleaned up after the motion capture?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Most of them are raw MOCAP. Some of the more recent ones have a basic Vicon post process that fixes occlusion or issues. But no manual MOCAP editing is done in these.

@Creating_Space 2 жыл бұрын

I watched the whole video and as always, very informative and interesting. . . . but where do I get that sick hat?!? 👀👌

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

the hat was a gift to people who were part of an Epic Games / Unreal Engine event. They sadly don’t have a merch store

@phonicgl 2 жыл бұрын

Quick question: I am spending weeks in trying to retarget the vicon rig to the ue4 mannequin rig. I got some decent process using a rig translation within Maya with the Human IK. Ufortunately there are still some weird rotations going on and the fingers and feet do not align properly. The standard retargeting process where I add the UE4 mannequin to Vicon Post for retargeting doesnt work since the legs and the arms start rotating like crazy after aligning the rig and setting the constraints. So right now I really dont know where else to put in effort. does someone have any ideas? I'm using Vicon for my Bachelors project.

@Jeff-rx4de 2 жыл бұрын

I am an "older guy" who loves technology. Can someone explain to me what you use this for? Is it to make games, movies, VLOGS? What is the future potential of this technology? Where is it at and where is it going for the consumer?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

The VFX industry has used this exact tool for animating CG people like Avatar, The Matrix, etc. Games Industry same but for game cinematics or fighting animations. Inertial MOCAP suits like Rokoko are priced at prosumer range. Optical like Vicon are priced for enterprise only at this point.

@uja1096 2 жыл бұрын

How expensive is the vicon system?

@NetanelMaor Жыл бұрын

Great channel Is there a link to your complete setup?

@CinematographyDatabase Жыл бұрын

There isn't a link for it, Vicon is only custom orders, you have to contact them directly. If you mention this channel they will know what setup you are talking about, its basically 10x Vero 2.2 cameras.

@NetanelMaor Жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase Thanks dude.

@philberex 2 жыл бұрын

Realy nice video. Vicon is indeed the best for Mocap. But how did u do the face tracking?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

I’m using an iPhone and the app LiveLinkFace.

@philberex 2 жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase thanks for the information. Any idea if it would work on Unity also?

@rubesharul 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome.. Can you say about cube boxes live tracking?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

next Vlog

@mocapbcnvistaanimationssl1635 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video! What do you use for facial mocap? Is that real time on unity/unreal?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

I use an iPhone and LiveLinkFace. This is Unreal Engine 4.27.

@bxbvxbv 2 жыл бұрын

do the "Ricardo Meme Dance!!!!"

@NixCM 2 жыл бұрын

real nice ! ok, how much?!!

@matricemat1061 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm interested in object tracking for live from UE4/5. is there any other way to vicon system? Thx for your answer =)

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

The lowest cost object tracking is a Vive Tracker, it works really well. Vicon is pretty much the highest end option used on LED wall and XR sets

@matricemat1061 2 жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase 🙏

@mrkshh 2 жыл бұрын

Could you say what soft record Face data?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

LiveLinkFace (iOS) and Unreal Engine

@nymarekintvilik8371 2 жыл бұрын

Phasespace (unique LED system pattent) and RED camera for tracking is good too. yes it is pricy however very neat result.. of course Vicon Xgens, rokoko are different range price and system

@jehonelporte2770 Жыл бұрын

With how many cameras did you do that test?

@CinematographyDatabase Жыл бұрын

This is 10x Vero 2.2 cameras all in the air, no floor ones which would have helped a bit

@user-fp3mn3dw7x 2 жыл бұрын

Just curious, is it possible to use this setup to play VR games and do full body tracking VR chat?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

You can use this with SteamVR and use an HMD. I don’t believe VR Chat has an option for this type of input/skeleton, however it was be possible to write in Unity. They would need to support a Vicon Unity plug-in.

@harshitpoddar 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing!! What's the size of the capture volume with these 10 cameras?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

My volume is like 3x2 meters ish. The limit is my basement space however, with a bit more space I feel like this could be 4x4 maybe. The Vero cameras are very wide, which is good for small spaces. For bigger volumes they have the Vantage and other cameras that are more zoomed in.

@VisibleMRJ 2 жыл бұрын

Nicee

@stedocli6387 2 жыл бұрын

Can you put that dlink in a XL fractal case to kill some of that sound its putting out in the next room?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

never heard of that, but something like that would be welcome, it will definitely mess with my audio if I don't do something about it

@ameeaty4088 2 жыл бұрын

wow this is amazing , how much is cost of this whole package ?you can say approximately

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

pricing is addressed in pinned comment

@sayonaradesu1087 2 жыл бұрын

How much it costs? They do not have prices on their website.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

pricing is addressed in pinned comment

@Wade978 2 жыл бұрын

How much was the vicon system you specifically got?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

pricing is addressed in pinned comment

@MR3DDev 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing but since I am not wealthy I'll stick with cleaning up animations from cheap mocaps 😂

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

it's good training, I'm still going to be cleaning and retargeting this animation. Just less than from other solutions.

@chickenstripfilms916 2 жыл бұрын

Live retargeting in unreal please!

@GeorgesEmmanuelArnaud 2 жыл бұрын

how are you doing the hands ?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

in this demo I was only tracking hands optically (markers) and not fingers. Next video I'll show basic 3 finger tracking with markers.

@furynotes 2 жыл бұрын

Really. This kind of gear should be at rental houses. Like camera's and lens. That's where it should go. Come on. Is everyone going to buy a red camera for one project. Logic here.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

It is rentable technically but most people rent a full MOCAP stage that is pre setup and have technicians who know the system.

@motionsick 2 жыл бұрын

Noyce

@rekt2609 2 жыл бұрын

What's your mocap suit?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Vicon

@GeorgesEmmanuelArnaud 2 жыл бұрын

why this over the Xsens ?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

Xsens is inertial (blind) MOCAP and the data from it is quite good AFTER HD Processing, which is a post processing "filter/algorithm" you run after you record it. The data live however isn't any where near the quality of Vicon. Second, Xsens has no native retargeting tools, so you are on your own to retarget to you skeleton. Vicon has an entire live retargeting and post retargeting workflow. That is the second reason specifically that the MetaHuman in the demo looks so good. He is live retargeted in a very elegant and accurate way.

@GeorgesEmmanuelArnaud 2 жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase but financialy its two different world and set up and everything, a massage crazy world between the two.

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgesEmmanuelArnaud you could buy multiple Xsens Link systems for the price of one Vicon easily. They are completely different worlds. Optical starts to scale more economically when you want to capture 2-6 actors at once however, but that isn't an indie operation that is a big studio usually.

@GeorgesEmmanuelArnaud 2 жыл бұрын

@@CinematographyDatabase can i still send you email ?

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgesEmmanuelArnaud sure

@mercerknowlton5472 2 жыл бұрын

Did you consider an OptiTrack system? What made you choose Vicon? Also, you should try recording an actor with a VR headset on so they can visualize their environment live in UE. Maybe even two actors with the previously recorded actor layered in, so the 2nd actor can see the 1st performance and act as if it were live. Might be useful for mocap stages conforming to covid guidelines. Or just lonely one man teams... XD

@CinematographyDatabase 2 жыл бұрын

I was looking at Optitrak but the opportunity to work with Vicon happened first. Vicon is the leader in optical MOCAP so I was really interested to learn how the system would work with MetaHumans

@hojo_sosec 2 жыл бұрын

Vicon also has a full body capture for VR solution too, supports up to 8 users in one space - so they can not only visualise their environment live; but see other people being captured in real-time