How impressive is Dawn Staley's undefeated title run, is Caitlin Clark the GOAT? | WBB

How impressive is Dawn Staley's undefeated title run, is Caitlin Clark the GOAT? | WBB | SPEAK

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The South Carolina Gamecocks completed its revenge tour with an 87-75 win over the Iowa Hawkeyes. South Carolina's bench outscored Iowa's 37-0 and Dawn Staley became the fifth women's basketball head coach to win at least three championships (Geno Auriemma, Pat Summitt, Kim Mulkey, Tara VanDerveer). Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones discuss how impressive Staley's undefeated title run is, then debate on whether Caitlin Clark is the GOAT of women's college basketball despite not winning a title.
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@SpeakOnFS1 Ай бұрын

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@erikhopkins9488 Ай бұрын

acho apologizing for this take?

@dangaynhsblitzkrieg4799 Ай бұрын

Fact: great players win big games😂😂

@KingBuckwyld Ай бұрын

ANGEL REESE HATERS WANTING HER TO LOSE ALL YEAR FOR BEATING C.CLARK IS THE REASON WHY WE WATCHED WOMEN'S COLLEGE BASKETBALL

@KingBuckwyld Ай бұрын

Players getting paid like professionals now stop caping for the Clark girl she lost

@edwinwalker1055 Ай бұрын

Z11 in@@KingBuckwyld

@louisehancock324 Ай бұрын

In the last 24 hours , I have heard media talk more about Caitlyn Clark than SC, the winners of the NCAA championship. She is a top player but entire teams win games, not just individual stars. The SC ladies proved that.

@docvaliant721 Ай бұрын

CC the only reason why this female sport is even being talked about.

@shelldmill9070 Ай бұрын

@@docvaliant721preach sir preach

@ninobrown3394 Ай бұрын

Na not true@@docvaliant721

@acegohard4731 Ай бұрын

@@docvaliant721 If Caitlin Clark didn't exist nobody would be talking about SC trust me. Caitlin Clark deserves all the attention she's getting. Well deserved

@eyenonowdtruth5836 Ай бұрын

@@docvaliant721 we know, the great white hope, the savior of women’s college basketball because she was an anomaly. Black girls BEEN tops in the sport and along comes a white girl who can shoot and now everyone wanna crown her the “goat”. 28 shots to score 30 points and can’t pull up driving to the right. This is your “Goat”?!

@user-wn2es2ie8g Ай бұрын

Ok ok. We all know Kaitlyn is AMAZING!!!! That’s all we’ve talked about all season long. It’s South Carolina’s time to shine.

@user-lt1fx2he5s Ай бұрын

Going 38-0 is insane!!!

@kammyr4082 Ай бұрын

And hasn't won a thing.

@user-lt1fx2he5s Ай бұрын

@@kammyr4082Won the national championship

@thekemplarfiles Ай бұрын

Wit a 6’7 girl on your team ur suppose too.

@IamBlackMagic03 Ай бұрын

38-0 is nice but remember Uconn won 111 in a row back in early-mid 2000s.

@leonardobraynen1524 Ай бұрын

nice try buddy. LSU had AngelnReese and still got steamrolled.@@thekemplarfiles

@bottomlineoutdoors6187 Ай бұрын

Coach didn't say she was the GOAT, she said she was one of them.

@cheryl6smith-mcinnis232 Ай бұрын

That’s exactly what she said. Clark is not a goat I feel she’s an outstanding athlete but goats win national championships and Caitlin hasn’t done that in her college career.

@wardy4903 Ай бұрын

@@cheryl6smith-mcinnis232 Coach said she a goat

@tharengore7215 Ай бұрын

@cheryl6smith-mcinnis232 NCAA coaches are saying she is the NCAA GOAT or one of them. Fact, she took a team who has never been to final 4, let alone a chance at a title twice in a row is crazy good. She lifted that team way above what they should be and that speaks volumes about how good of a player she is. Along with breaking nearly every record possible along the way.

@chrisstiff2914 Ай бұрын

@@wardy4903 Coach did say she was one of them. I think she sees how much of an impact she will have for women actually getting more recognition and getting paid like they want to. The women that started the WNBA and know the history of the game all want to see it grown. None of them will be talking bad about Clark, because they see it can be used to make the game better.

@MuscleTech__ Ай бұрын

What other ncca woman player better than Clark none she is the dam GOAT Championship or not

@anthonysamuel2377 Ай бұрын

Angel Reese put in work, please don't diminish what she did a LSU.

@tharengore7215 Ай бұрын

Reese is a dog and hope she excels in WNBA.

@chevelleborders8857 Ай бұрын

There not going to talk about Angel Reese because Echo and Shady the A hole is a hater. Angel Reese is one of the best players in college that has a lot of talent, but Some Black Folks will not admit. Not making it a Race Card.

@thekemplarfiles Ай бұрын

Angel reese Is not a top 5 pick or 10. 👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽

@missdramaqueen3315 Ай бұрын

@@thekemplarfiles 🙄

@HistoryWorldWide. Ай бұрын

@@thekemplarfiles not top 10 is casual talk

@realtalk423 Ай бұрын

Sheryl Swoops played for Texas Tech and carried them to a NCAA Championship 🏆. No one can name a single teammate of Sheryl Swoops.

@danielafforo9262 Ай бұрын

Who was watching 😢

@realtalk423 Ай бұрын

@@danielafforo9262 Do you people hear how stupid you sound. The amount of people watching does not make you the greatest. All that means is the advertising and promoting of the event was the greatest it's ever been.

@lennywest8537 Ай бұрын

@@danielafforo9262CC is playing in a era of social media we’re sports is advertised everywhere, those women didn’t play in the social media era, Candice Parker would wash CC in a head to head game

@jrcrit8843 Ай бұрын

@@danielafforo9262what does viewership have to do with talent? Has the world gotten that much stupid that we’re now saying that who ever gets more views or likes is now the GOAT? Lmao ppl are insane

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

@@lennywest8537cap

@bighomey4343 Ай бұрын

Raven Johnson locked her up.

@maryjohnson5079 Ай бұрын

I think Angel Reese is a GOAT 🐐, because she has a Championship in her back pocket Congratulations Angel Reese for proving to the World 🌍 that you and your college teammates that you are CHAMPION.Congratulations South Carolina, because you guys have Proven to the World 🌎 that your team are CHAMPIONS ✝️🙏💕🇺🇸

@ryanjohnson9620 Ай бұрын

Dawn Staley is an incredible recruiter. Her bench was better than the starting 5 from Iowa, aside from CC. The talent on her team is marvelous

@voiceofalabama Ай бұрын

It’s coaching as well. U put a shooting liability of Raven Johnson in there to specifically lock up CC. That was scouting at its finest.

@user-lt1fx2he5s Ай бұрын

@@voiceofalabama That’s why Raven Johnson had to sacrifice so much scoring because she had to guard Caitlin for 3 quarters straight

@voiceofalabama Ай бұрын

@@user-lt1fx2he5s she isn't a scorer anyways. But she has improved.

@thekemplarfiles Ай бұрын

So basically you only won because a top recruiter school. 💀 & almost lost to a non top school of whyte girls. 😂😂😂

@thekemplarfiles Ай бұрын

@@voiceofalabama career high in the 1st quarter is not locking down. 🤡

@traviswhite1975 Ай бұрын

Swoops went to Texas Tech. No help and won. Put up 40 plus in the title game. What are we talking about

@baller0724 Ай бұрын

THANK YOU!!!

@ericwilliams460 Ай бұрын

She was also the favorite going into the game😮

@weltonspratley4367 Ай бұрын

Research team too lazy to give them the facts

@traviswhite1975 Ай бұрын

How were they favorite ranked lower than Ohio State. Also Ohio State was a 1 seed

@tpettway7211 Ай бұрын

She actually had 47, 23 in the first half, and 24 in the second

@w00deey12 Ай бұрын

Sheryl Swoopes, Cynthia Cooper, Tina Thompson, and Lisa Leslie.... the women who made it possible for women to play basketball professionally in the United States are the most influential . Period

@JoeAliasMrFamous16 Ай бұрын

Don't forget Dawn Staley cause she was their point guard

@louisehancock324 Ай бұрын

💯agree.

@chrismiller755 Ай бұрын

Facts

@TheForkOnTheLeftist Ай бұрын

I'm sorry which one of those women made women's basketball profitable? Oh wait.... lol

@kham6006 Ай бұрын

Never heard of them - lmao

@ronniejohnson196 Ай бұрын

Cheryl Miller Changed Basketball For Womens Athletics Because She Played The Game In All Aspects Like Men Played It.

@kyranarrahancock3772 Ай бұрын

Over 100 in 1 game is crazy...

@nashina81 Ай бұрын

Yup Miller was a beast- Fulwiley & Watkins are bringing that back- it was lost for a while tho.

@stephanielrichardson7796 Ай бұрын

💯💯💯💯💯

@lanskygoodwin9295 Ай бұрын

First black coach to win 3 chips!!

@alfhhfhhdhfjfhf1799 Ай бұрын

AMAZING!!!...DAWN...DAWN...DAWN!!! STALEY!!!

@Jimbo-Slice717 Ай бұрын

✊🏿

@RadicalNoah Ай бұрын

Don't make this about race, it's just ignorant.

@eyenonowdtruth5836 Ай бұрын

@@RadicalNoah why not? Everything else is. If Caitlyn Clark was black you think the country would be pulling for her like it was? You think Jill Biden would have offered an invite to the LOSING team (Iowa) last year? YOU don’t be ignorant and ignore the obvious that it IS about race. Sad that it is, but it’s so obvious.

@LostAngel19 Ай бұрын

Talk about that

@nizzy365 Ай бұрын

YOU CAN'T BE A GOAT WITHOUT A CHAMPIONSHIP.

@BeverlyLarae Ай бұрын

Facts

@focuz4899 Ай бұрын

You got that right! It's hard to be the G.O.A.T. with a championship.

@mrshp2392 Ай бұрын

Exactly

@focuz4899 Ай бұрын

@@DrRickHyde Money can't buy happiness

@donttrendonme Ай бұрын

There is no goat in women’s bball dude no one cares. Thai is the first time it has been a sports segment.

@5stargeneral1000 Ай бұрын

South Carolina is definitely winning this year's Espy's for best team of 2024. Undefeated kinda hard to overtake in any sport.

@jacobnyhart6862 Ай бұрын

I think ESPN has already shipped the best WBB team ESPY award to Catilin Clark.

@mplou699 Ай бұрын

@@jacobnyhart6862 I hope you're wrong... GO GAMECOCKS!

@thekemplarfiles Ай бұрын

When you have a player on your team who’s height is 7 inches taller than the tallest person on the opposing team.

@barak-rocky-giles2081 Ай бұрын

My only issue with combining South Carolina winning and Caitlin Clark's greatness in the same discussion is that I personally DON'T believe that if Iowa has won, the media would be saying, "Caitlin Clark's brings Iowa its first Chip, but was this South Carolina team one of the best March Madness squads?" I think they would basically ignore SC if they loss and I'm all about keeping the same energy.

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

Some people would but that’s not a bad thing the main reason we watched was for Caitlin

@garlandmccall7615 Ай бұрын

Swoopes had 47 her final championship game, at a non traditional powerhouse

@bbFan2024 Ай бұрын

Facts, Swoopes is the only that can say that. Clark came close.

@eyenonowdtruth5836 Ай бұрын

@@bbFan2024 she came close?! the girl shot the ball 28 times!!! Omg

@theo8064 Ай бұрын

I was shocked they didn’t mention Swoops. I started watching womens basketball because of Swoops.

@chuckgunn1359 Ай бұрын

Lol i get your point, but at that stage of women's basketball, I am not sure a "powerhouse" ever existed.

@loststoryproductions Ай бұрын

@@theo8064these people on screen don’t no nothing about that 😂 maybe Joy but she kept quiet for some reason

@straightup7007 Ай бұрын

These fellas up here aint even mention Cheryl Miller. Miller was thd greatest player I have seen. Clark is great but Cheryl on a different level. Miller was a beast.

@eatemup88 Ай бұрын

They never seen her play

@straightup7007 Ай бұрын

@@eatemup88 They can go watch her play in thd 83 and 84 Olympics and the NCAA Championship on youtube. Everytime a lady or a man have a good game, all of a sudden they are in conversation of goat. The eye test can tell you Miller was a more superior player physically and mentally. They just cannot be up here making dumb statements, if they did not go back and watch their history.

@donaldfrierson743 Ай бұрын

Cheryl Miller, Sherly Swopes, Rebecca Lobo, and others were great, but there was no social media and the games were not covered on TV the way they are now. Pearl Moore put up over 4,000 points in her collegiate career, and a lot of those points were outside of the three-point line. But there was no TV then.

@DrRickHyde Ай бұрын

Clark walks away with more sponsors and money and packed houses...they are jealous because nobody wanted to come watch their boring downlow game in the WNBA... will be talked about Clark like Steph forever..not the boring 3 foot downlow shooters. Nobody watches without her...not many at least did before this.

@williambreeze2659 Ай бұрын

Coach Staley is a baller 👌.

@n64central Ай бұрын

Y’all are major band wagoning. You never talked about SC despite them having a PERFECT RECORD, you acted like Iowa was just going to walk in there and run away with it. You don’t have a team like that out of nowhere

@pablorebsamen99 Ай бұрын

Let's see if McCoy pocket-watches Caitlin Clark's bag like he does NFL Brothas like DAK...

@tharengore7215 Ай бұрын

Let's be real this show and others have NEVER spoken about WNCAA period till Clark.

@PM-wp6ze Ай бұрын

@@tharengore7215exactly!! But they too prideful to admit that. I only started watching women’s basketball BECAUSE of Caitlin Clark!

@yahcrack Ай бұрын

Notice how the snowflakes tried to tear down Dawn Staley the day before the Championship by making her the villain. Catching her off guard and she was nervous. It backfired. They wanted her distracted. LOVE YOU DAWN STALEY! PHILLY! 💚

@arkhamknight6371 Ай бұрын

Go nap cornball

@arkhamknight6371 Ай бұрын

Go nap 😂😂😂😂

@dickenscider4082 Ай бұрын

There are so many comments on Fox News saying how dare she bring God into this because God doesn’t care about sports. That was weird.

@KJawn Ай бұрын

@@arkhamknight6371 you go nap

@cliffordwilliams7449 Ай бұрын

@@arkhamknight6371 redneck

@saltydogreactions3619 Ай бұрын

are these analyst being told to hype up clark? SC won the chip but you talk about clark?

@soda8736 Ай бұрын

Because their all watching because of Clark, we have seen dominant womens teams before , like Tennessee and Connecticut and no cared

@alphasports3743 Ай бұрын

@@soda8736 Because blacks dominated. We get 1 corn girl from Iowa who shoots 3s and she's the Goat? It's so racist that they can't name her the highest scorer in NCAA history because it belong to a black woman. Now let that sank in ... CC is the highest scorer in D1 history not NCAA history.

@blezz7773 Ай бұрын

No ring no flowers😂😂😂

@WillHernandez-sd6cp Ай бұрын

that girl still the best She took Iowa to the championship game on her back. The other players. Are garbage?She made them That's a little better. I was never been to the championship because of that girl. Michael Jordan never took the bulls to the championship by himself. He had other hall of famers.

@blezz7773 Ай бұрын

@@WillHernandez-sd6cp your right she is awesome and a fierce competitor 💙

@PaulEscamilla Ай бұрын

So what happens when she wins a title in the wnba

@blezz7773 Ай бұрын

@@PaulEscamilla nothing awesome job continue to win more and build her wnba legacy

@DrRickHyde Ай бұрын

@taranyanza6237 Ай бұрын

Joy said it best , SCarolina had and has the better team-- imo because of Coach Staley outcoaching the Iowa coach as well

@johnnybrown81 Ай бұрын

I wish Joy would find another show. She's on set with some busters. Straight tap dancers.

@garyjohnson7805 Ай бұрын

Lol😂😂😂😂

@candysmith1186 Ай бұрын

I like joy but these guys its crazy

@DENTONYanaha-lb8uw 19 күн бұрын

PAID FOR, THESE BROTHERS ARE BEING TOLD TO BE OBEDIENT

@thereallokeezy6182 Ай бұрын

Chamique Holsclaw put tennessee on her back and won 3 🏆

@JoeNeely Ай бұрын

Exactly

@Bella_Malk Ай бұрын

After y'all dragged her, Angel Reese walked away with a chip and y'alls girl didn't 😂.

@jaymack6864 Ай бұрын

CC way better than her though.

@Zarab923 Ай бұрын

Still not as good as CC and won’t be the 1st pick in the draft. But she’s good. Just makes my eyes hurt watching her with those eyelashes

@neishachambers2719 Ай бұрын

@@Zarab923…she won’t be 1st pick because fever doesn’t need a big…they have Aaliyah Boston. They need a guard.

@PM-wp6ze Ай бұрын

She lost. She got a chip LAST YEAR

@jctslice Ай бұрын

@@Zarab923 she's going top10

@yahcrack Ай бұрын

Please don’t try to hop on Dawn Staley’s bandwagon. No one supported her except South Carolina and her hometown, Philadelphia. Now y’all want to talk about her? Most people didn’t even know she coached at Temple before SC.

@andoversandlot8491 Ай бұрын

Swear

@eugenestewart4251 Ай бұрын

Facts tell them to keep riding Clark jock like they been doing all day

@prezi2024 Ай бұрын

Yall will be mad someone doesn’t get covered and when they finally do get covered, you get in your feelings 😂😂

@user-gx3xq1qp7s Ай бұрын

But you jumped on the bandwagon to why you acting like you are the gatekeeper of her

@deontecallaway4026 Ай бұрын

They were literally the favorite and she didn’t college or pro in those two places so she’s got a lot more supporters.

@joelamthach5812 Ай бұрын

Coach Dawn is doing it with heart… her students adore her and will do anything to help…a kind heart and skill are deadly combination

@pablorebsamen99 Ай бұрын

Joy, the ignorance of McCoy is rubbing off on you.

@DrRickHyde Ай бұрын

@exomake_mehorololo Ай бұрын

@@DrRickHydenobody? top WBB games have been drawing multiple million viewers for some time. Do you know what words mean?

@gclay3176 Ай бұрын

As a person who’s watched WBB before the CC hype (because my sisters played) … I’ve seen better players than her And I have to listen to ppl like Shady who just started watching yesterday tell me I’m wrong.. and now you got ppl calling other players haters …It’s a little irritating not gonna lie ..

@JoeNeely Ай бұрын

Facts

@kennethsmith6367 Ай бұрын

I’m not seeing the stats, viewership and records to back up your claim’s.

@lakeshaumcbride2209 Ай бұрын

Well said! I agree wholeheartedly with your comments 😊

@levonverrett6052 Ай бұрын

@@kennethsmith6367dude a frehsman in juju Watkins was playing better than cc cc don’t play any defense she is a big liability on that end juju broke many records

@kennethsmith6367 Ай бұрын

@@levonverrett6052 And Ju Ju doesn’t pass and is a less efficient scorer. Also JuJu didn’t get past UCONN but Iowa did.🤷🏾‍♂️

@sunflowerlife1877 Ай бұрын

LeSean McCoy! You sound RIDICULOUS!! This entire clip should have been about, South Carolina winning the Championship!!!

@roee78 Ай бұрын

Wow....how the conversation went from Coach Dawn and SC to CC. Insightful. Interesting.

@allenmartinez180 Ай бұрын

its a long show, they can go on to the next subject.

@ms_s_c Ай бұрын

What CC brought to the game was a bunch of racism. So many nasty comments towards players that don't look like her. She didn't do it directly, but because of her, a lot of players that didn't look like her were the subject of online harassment and bullying by HER fans. Glad she's gone so our girls can play in peace

@coachworthy_ Ай бұрын

Shady so fake. He was just talking about how Cam couldn’t be more influential to the game than Mahomes because he didn’t win at the highest level. Now here he is claiming Clark is the goat / most influential without winning the Natty. Come on bro.

@HockeyDudeJames2 Ай бұрын

Cam had one good year bro.

@theopencourt7231 Ай бұрын

That’s cause the nfl was already an established league. Caitlin was turned women’s collage basketball into an established league, she probably isn’t the goat cause of Cheryal Miller but Caitlin is 1000% the most important, impactful, influential, whatever you wanna say

@coachworthy_ Ай бұрын

@@HockeyDudeJames2 we can agree to disagree on that, but I’m more so speaking on how he stated Cam couldn’t have been that influential if he didn’t win.

@baller0724 Ай бұрын

@theopencourt7231 so you think a league isn't "established" until the casual male viewer tune in? Not the talent that has BEEN in women college basketball make it ALREADY established smh tell me YOU just started watching Women's basketball yesterday without telling me

@coachworthy_ Ай бұрын

@@theopencourt7231 I actually agree that Caitlyn Clark is the most influential of her sport. Just calling out Shady for the hypocrisy.

@davidpetrosky Ай бұрын

I understand the glazing, due to the scoring accomplishment, but how on earth do you carry goat status, coming up small in two title games in a row? Under 40 percent shooting, this time around, with 4 crucial turnovers, with no steals. Come on, goats don't get down like that.

@ycoz5814 Ай бұрын

She led a mid-tier team to the championship 2 consecutive years. Thats GOAT status.

@taverett67 Ай бұрын

Thats garbage status if you don't get a ring!

@eyenonowdtruth5836 Ай бұрын

@@ycoz5814 yep, ask Jim Kelly he led the Bills to 4 straight Super Bowls. I’d bet a mil he’d trade 3 of those trips for a chip. He ain’t in no “goat” conversations either.

@joeykremple Ай бұрын

She beat South Carolina, LSU and UConn at little old Iowa. She’s the best

@geraldos9094 Ай бұрын

The opponent she guarded last year from LSU had a historic night. CC is weak on defense, the offense ran through her at Iowa, she was afforded at least 25 shots per game. In the WNBA, she will be playing against the best women that was in college. Last night SC had a whole new starting 5, not seasoned women like the WNBA. CC will score in the WNBA, but nothing like at Iowa.

@sholovesholove4620 Ай бұрын

Thank you for not letting shady get away with acting like Maya Moore wasn't the absolute truth!

@Holafromtheville Ай бұрын

Breanna Stewart resume is unmatched like honestly not that close

@shelldmill9070 Ай бұрын

Sir she had a stacked team to win 4 chips wut u talking bout

@jctslice Ай бұрын

@@shelldmill9070 UConn is always stacked

@deadflies4265 Ай бұрын

@@shelldmill9070 Swoops went to Texas Tech and led them to a natty.. it can be done

@81clazzic Ай бұрын

@@shelldmill9070 even with a stacked team she ended up M.O.P in all 4 tournaments

@dadillonful Ай бұрын

I would draft Clark over her in a heartbeat

@truthtella3371 Ай бұрын

shady consistently sounds dumb 😂😂 stewart got 3 player of the years and 4 national championships

@Biggdoom344 Ай бұрын

Playing for a loaded UConn team..would she have done that on a team like Iowa or Nebraska?

@rockjm9876543210 Ай бұрын

@@Biggdoom344And she won her freshman year not being the best player on the team.

@Mo-lm1jh Ай бұрын

Team was loaded,she wouldn't have won nothing with mediocre players!

@mplou699 Ай бұрын

Stewart, who? UConn has dust on it now...there's better teams NOW.

@rockjm9876543210 Ай бұрын

@@Mo-lm1jh Not to mention they went 36-0 two years in a row after breanna stewart left and lost in OT in the tournament😂

@andrearandle1041 Ай бұрын

Dont miss the point. Caitlin Clark got the viewers to tune in. I love Coach Dawn for pointing that out. Because Caitlin was on the court, the other players got a chance to be viewed. It was an exciting game. Great season champions SC🏆

@LadyG1371 Ай бұрын

Nope LSU brought me back to women’s BB ❤🏀💯

@cheez2463 Ай бұрын

Dawn is from north Philly, the land of the diamonds 💎! No one talked about her all season until now. That’s why she had tears because it took this for y’all to see what her and her team is about. Love her for life! I know where she came from and how hard she worked to get to where she is. Raymond Rosen 💎🙌🏽🙌🏽❤️

@kendrickthompson8721 Ай бұрын

They confusing GOAT with Influence💯You can be great & have great influence on the game but you have to win IT all to be solidified to be in the conversation💯Most Players & Coaches with 1 or 2 championships still are not even considered to be in GoAt conversations

@yahcrack Ай бұрын

Iowa went to the Final Four the year before she came let’s not act like that wasn’t a good team.

@w00deey12 Ай бұрын

in 1993?

@camvole8806 Ай бұрын

@@w00deey12bro iowa had a player of the year before Caitlin came. Caitlin was a top 3 recruit out of highschool i promise she wasnt going to a trash school

@philliprobinson-muhammad2034 Ай бұрын

Everyone wants to make it seam as though Iowa is a garbage program but none of them has checked thier history.

@mogul7489 Ай бұрын

One could argue it was the media’s obsession with Caitlin that brought the viewers in. She’s a great player but besides having an ultimate green light, she didn’t do anything abnormal. Maybe it’s cuz I’ve watched wnba and women’s ncaa a long time but to me, girls like Juju, Paige, Rickea, could all put up similar numbers if they shots as much as she did.

@ImportAl Ай бұрын

Congrats SC and dawn Staley! Caitlin Clark historically is like Steph and Pistol Pete, didn't win NCAA title but are game-changing talents kids will try to play like.

@w00deey12 Ай бұрын

Trae Young gets hated on nonstop and so far is the only player after Steph to have logo range.... what exactly did Steph change?

@ImportAl Ай бұрын

@@w00deey12C'mon Trae ain't Steph and Hawks will never be GSW, but Trae, Dame, Luka, Caitlin Clark all shooting deep because of Curry, 4 rings from a skinny little shooter had never been done.

@loviedovie5781 Ай бұрын

So true

@Mr50403 Ай бұрын

Stop, Clark ain't Pistol Pete.

@renewilson2540 Ай бұрын

@@Mr50403OK, then Curry😂

@mikelowery9299 Ай бұрын

Shady is 100% wrong. Shes not the goat just because people are talking about women's CB. Shady didnt even mention greats like Miller, Swoopes, Tennessee and Connecticut players. Stop it.

@sterlingcunningham2399 Ай бұрын

Bruh come one man people need to stop this Caitlin Clark hate…won’t none of these past players hitting logo 3’s! Won’t none of these past players bringing this excitement. She’s the highest scoring mark in men’s or woman’s. Ok you want to do the ring debate cool but none of the great players that won a chip had a roster that lacked talent like this IOWA team. She’s done more with less. She’s def at min top 5 womans player ever!

@BeverlyLarae Ай бұрын

Agreed

@Bang-Bang9erGang Ай бұрын

She's still ringless

@BeverlyLarae Ай бұрын

Shady STOP

@BeverlyLarae Ай бұрын

Your disrespecting the players with rings

@bottomlineoutdoors6187 Ай бұрын

If Caitlin went to a power house her numbers wouldn't be the same.

@lonniedahlstrom110 Ай бұрын

But she would have those Natties you all so proud of, she went the hard road, Iowa fans won’t ever forget her.

@shanemiller6252 Ай бұрын

shady been giving Angel Reese backhanded compliments for about a week straight. Caitlyn needed Angel as much as she needed her. Without a "villain" like he keeps calling her, the story wouldnt have been so captivating. And stop acting like LSU didnt have their cult supporters also.

@aSTROnomical_8 Ай бұрын

USC won the championship. They stopped talking about SC at 6:50. When does this disrespect end. CC is special and all time great but since when is it more deserving to talk about the losing team more. The disrespect is honestly out of control. CC is all time great without a doubt, but this is getting out of hand. They went UNDEFEATED for an entire year, Dawn is making history yet they’d still don’t get the LT just due. Today CNN posted about USC winning a title and the picture was CC. What are we doing?!? This isn’t kids sports we don’t do participation trophies anymore. CC team was overmatched and CC is historically great, that’s not up for debate, but the disrespect needs to end.

@donttrendonme Ай бұрын

So what? UConn did the same thing but won 100 straight. It makes NCAAW look like a joke. Get a semi-competent coach and go undefeated. No players stand out and score. The goats all avg like 16 ppg.

@aSTROnomical_8 Ай бұрын

@@donttrendonme this is such a bad and nonsensical take I don’ even know where to start lmao.

@TyroneGrinada Ай бұрын

I remember LSU won the championship last year and Biden invite Iowa to the White House. Let that sink in.

@SuperMogul Ай бұрын

If you're a winner, you don't have to be humble.They only tell that to Black people.

@MrChaseBlue Ай бұрын

lol if she did what angel did, y’all will be hating her more than you are now

@justussdad426 Ай бұрын

Who is “they”?

@eyenonowdtruth5836 Ай бұрын

@@MrChaseBluewho is “Y’all”? smh and it ain’t about race. Who “YALL” foolin?

@focuz4899 Ай бұрын

@@MrChaseBlue She would have to win a championship to do what Angel did.

@cameronwimbish8579 Ай бұрын

Shady is showing that he’s never really watched women’s college ball

@dadillonful Ай бұрын

Yes just like 98% of the world

@PM-wp6ze Ай бұрын

No ones really watched women’s college ball UNTIL now and that’s because of CC. Prove me wrong.

@marshacrockran6601 Ай бұрын

Cheryl Swoopes, Candace Parks, Chamica Holdsclaw, and etc…,

@PM-wp6ze Ай бұрын

Who?

@mplou699 Ай бұрын

GO VOLS!!! Not sure where Swoopes went..

@MarvG3000 Ай бұрын

Cheryl Miller is the goat 🐐

@kerwinross2361 Ай бұрын

Shady , Boy Please ‼️

@MichaelSmith-bk5sw Ай бұрын

Shady is all emotion with everything they debate. His inconsistency on 100!

@Angela-ui9tu Ай бұрын

Wow I didn't know Dawn Staley played Caitlin one on one. To dismiss all the women who played college basketball it is so disrespectful those are the ones who opened the door for a Caitlin Clark. And shady who open the door for you. Are we just supposed to forget about how hard it was to open those doors

@Pinkgreen190 Ай бұрын

After y'all dragged her, Angel Reese walked away with a chip and y'alls girl didn't 😂😂

@OscarUnrated Ай бұрын

it aint that serious

@baller0724 Ай бұрын

And will take ROY from their golden whyte girl because she's going to be 2nd fiddle to Boston this season.

@soulonice04 Ай бұрын

Championships are a team accomplishment. Let's not act like that Iowa team had the surrounding cast that SC has.

@user-mh6yh3lh8w Ай бұрын

@@baller0724 ... gets under your skin that the best female basketball player in the world is a white girl huh... probably wouldn't sting so bad if the best men's player in the world wasn't also a white guy ;-)

@drlee2 Ай бұрын

Yeah, as the 4th leader scorer on her own team in the title game! lol

@user-mj7nn7lz9f Ай бұрын

If Kaitlyn Clark was playing at a powerhouse school, she wouldn’t have those numbers

@shelldmill9070 Ай бұрын

How u know u psychic

@user-mj7nn7lz9f Ай бұрын

No but it just makes sense. One thing she wouldn’t be playing 40 min a game

@Truthwins1107 Ай бұрын

Facts lol

@kennethsmith6367 Ай бұрын

She’d also still be exciting to watch, her assist numbers would be even more gaudy and she would have title’s. “Six of one, half a dozen of another.”.🤷🏾‍♂️ So it would still be the same unknowable argument!

@dadillonful Ай бұрын

She would have those numbers with 4 championships

@gabrielcreech8893 Ай бұрын

You can tell Shady haven't watched women's college basketball over the past several years

@veldam.knauls9732 Ай бұрын

It is becoming more and more clear how this mention of CC is in the script. They should not even be talking about anybody but Coach Staley and South Carolinas accomplishments.

@josine10 Ай бұрын

just my personal opinion (and I'm sure I'm not alone in this thinking), but I kind of feel like Caitlyn brought more eyeballs to the game because of what was happening off the court. Not taking away from what she did on the court, but I had not ever heard of her prior to the Angel Reese incident. In her freshman and sophomore year she was putting up similar stats as her junior and senior year and no one cared.

@hollo7906 Ай бұрын

Last year is when I first heard of her... nothing prior...

@focuz4899 Ай бұрын

@@hollo7906 Exactly! People starting watching her when Angel Reese put hands and feet on her in the national championship.

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

@@focuz4899no they didn’t she was famous before then angel reese was the one that got famous

@focuz4899 Ай бұрын

@@Axel-ye8tt Angel Reese already had almost 3 million followers before LSU beat Iowa in the national championship. You didn't know that because you probably just jumped on the Iowa bandwagon last year. The Reese and Clark rivalry was like a presidential election. Half the country were Reese fans the other half were Clark fans. Why do you think so many people are glad she lost? Because it means Angel has a ring and Caitlin doesn't.

@weltonspratley4367 Ай бұрын

Caitlan Clark got beat by basically a bunch of freshmen lol

@Biggdoom344 Ай бұрын

Not just freshman..5 star one of the top female high school players in the United States freshman lol.

@lovelyleyley647 Ай бұрын

That Part! Her and HER team got beat by freshmen...WOW! SMDH💪🏽🤦🏾‍♀️

@verlena7620 Ай бұрын

Agree one hundred percent because it was about the Team and not one player.

@smallgoon Ай бұрын

Cordoza is not a freshman. Gonna be 23 in less than a month. They got beat on the glass.

@jctslice Ай бұрын

They were all basically 5 star freshmen tho

@brycestephensii5982 Ай бұрын

Clark is the Taylor Swift of Women’s NCAA 🏀 USC just had a Historic/Herstoric season and all I see and hear are awards and praise for Swift, I mean Clark. I’m in YE mode, defcon3😂

@kammyr4082 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 accurate as fock

@SaintLaurentWan Ай бұрын

juju came to the school and instantly they became a top 5 ap school and won the last pac 12 championship

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

USC lost and Caitlin outperformed juju

@soda8736 Ай бұрын

Hater

@reekybaby5223 Ай бұрын

They way Shady sitting up there looking u can tell his goofy ahh lost some money betting on CC😭😭🤣

@cjleo81 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@itschelsea798 Ай бұрын

LOFLLL🤣

@Lanier-ry5yy Ай бұрын

He'S a house ninja

@EddieBuie-fk6gi Ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

@81clazzic Ай бұрын

You ain't going to just 💩 Maya Moore and Brianna Stewart like that...this is more of a social media era than it was back then so of course she'll have more views 🤦🏾‍♂️

@shanemiller6252 Ай бұрын

Shady was poor all segment. The recency bias is crazy. He trippin

@charlesaskew8619 Ай бұрын

Hannah stuelke was a 4 star top 50 player coming out of highschool.

@Truthwins1107 Ай бұрын

Shady McCoy is unprofessional. He can’t cope when his cohosts disagree with him

@charlesscott3480 Ай бұрын

Shady cappin for Caitlin as the goat...he lame for that

@shawnwilliam1802 Ай бұрын

Shady wasn’t yelling “Philly” last week. FOH! He was on CC’s jock

@hollo7906 Ай бұрын

Candace Parker changed the game... she was dunking and all

@DrRickHyde Ай бұрын

@henrymack742 Ай бұрын

In South Carolina got the championships and guess what I got news for you they are a lot more championships they don't need one player to score 40 points it's a lot more championships coming to South Carolina

@Wiz_yncd Ай бұрын

So wrong she ain’t the GOAT she in the convo but you can’t be the GOAT without a Championship period sorry 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️💯💯 can’t let your bias weigh your logic

@tkp4787 Ай бұрын

So true one reason every agrees Tom Brady is the goat is because of his titles. Stats it’s things that can be passed in the future by others

@wardy4903 Ай бұрын

@@tkp4787 Brady has all the stats

@jctslice Ай бұрын

@@wardy4903 cuz he played the longest lol 23 years. I think that'll actually hurt him in the GOAT debate because Mahomes will get his stats and accolades in less time. Brady is Bill Russell. Mahomes is Jordan

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

@@jctsliceBrady has a better peak than manokes did you watch last season wihtiht elite weapons he ddint evdn had 30 tds

@jctslice Ай бұрын

@@Axel-ye8tt brady's peak season was 2007. mahomes was 2018. i would agree because of the 18-0 until the SB, but he choked in the SB. i still think that mahomes later on though will peak better because he's far more talented than brady

@BryanHollenbeck Ай бұрын

This was a great back and forth debate. Love it Shady!!! Great clip

@nysimcharles33 Ай бұрын

I’m only 30 seconds into the video but why is Acho still there ? 😭

@javarisjamarjavarisonlamar7517 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@Blackbolt-411 Ай бұрын

One of the GOATS shady just keep quiet bruh calling a player in college the Goat who hasn’t won

@JayyBanks Ай бұрын

In 40 years there will have been college players that have scored as many points as her, but have won titles. The Caitlyn Clark impact will be forgotten, without a title.

@bbFan2024 Ай бұрын

She hasn’t even started her pro career

@user-wt5gr4kg6r Ай бұрын

Facts!!

@Biggdoom344 Ай бұрын

I doubt that. Miller played over 40 years ago. Nobody has forgotten about her.

@tkp4787 Ай бұрын

True stats can be beaten in the future but titles stay

@wardy4903 Ай бұрын

In 40 years every current GOAT in every sport might be replaced.

@karenstewart1265 Ай бұрын

Philly here I am very proud of all of them. I still have her celebrating the Eagles win on my phone. WOW BEAUTIFUL! 💕

@hiiroyuy6855 Ай бұрын

They acting like Iowa's WBB didn't have the Player of the Year before CC was there a year before

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

They got drafted

@hiiroyuy6855 Ай бұрын

@@Axel-ye8tt Yes What I am saying is they are acting like good players never go to Iowa

@ladarriousb.2075 Ай бұрын

She’s electrifying, but not the goat. She lost everytime she needed to step up. No ring no victory no title

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

Has dropped 30 last year on lsu her team got blown out

@danrowe1453 Ай бұрын

This was a great conversation! I watch a lot of talk sports shows. This one was fun to listen to.

@lhamarurbina9549 Ай бұрын

Just came here to say that I love the comedic relief this show provides

@Mr_Furrz2 Ай бұрын

HAVE THESE GUYS EVER HEARD OF SHERYL MILLR OF SOUTHERN CAL?

@xoxob3329 Ай бұрын

If Lamar Jackson has to win a Super Bowl, then she has to win something of significance as well. Even Allen Iverson, he’ll never be put above Kobe or Lebron because he didn’t get a ring.

@freeindeed8416 Ай бұрын

Lamar didn’t win in college

@xoxob3329 Ай бұрын

@@freeindeed8416 neither did Caitlin, which is my point. They have to win at least one ring to even be in the conversation as the greatest.

@freeindeed8416 Ай бұрын

@@xoxob3329 I was just pointing out that she hasn’t had the chances to win that Lamar has had to win so far. He’s played many more seasons

@alfansosimon4230 Ай бұрын

The last player is always going to be the most influential in this post modern / social media narrative. There are many women before who changed the actual game. The exposure was not there because of the difference in systems and even technology. Caitlyn is great for the game and exposure but she is not the GOAT.

@user-fx8nb3cl8u Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 we need dr umar to give his take

@eyenonowdtruth5836 Ай бұрын

Caitlyn Clark is an awesome player, hands down. Can’t dispute her talent, but the goat? It discredits all the accomplishments of the greats that came before her. Did she change the game? I’m open to hear “how”. The intrigue by way of the controversy with Angel Reese brought a lot of viewers because we all know people looove drama especially with the black/white aspect of it. In the midst of all this an undefeated team was overlooked and ended up prevailing in the end. The views will plummet again because it is what it is, but a white girl that can shoot the lights out like that IS incredible but don’t hand her the whole kit and kaboodle for something blacks BEEN doing just cause she white. Geeesh

@smallgoon Ай бұрын

What black women have shot like her ?? Or white women ?? Breanna Stewart is white and won THREE NCAA players of the year in a row and three championships and no one gave AF

@cameronandersonsr Ай бұрын

Wow these Cats (media personalities) stay riding on CC. It's crazy how you can lose back to back championships and 99% of the conversation is about the loosing team. You loose but get more coverage than the winners! Wow!

@MrChaseBlue Ай бұрын

It’s about the mega star player, which is why the NBA is all about superstar narratives, not about great team play

@miajones9379 Ай бұрын

The show today talked more about Carlin Clark,,, and little about Dawn S and South Carolina,,, it should have been all about them today,,, let those young ladies have their time to sign as well,,,, CONGRATULATIONS South Caroline

@baller0724 Ай бұрын

Y'all great whyte HYPE cant pull up going right so therefore got the clamps put on her for 3 STRAIGHT quarters 😂😂 folks bringing up the 30 without mentioning the 28 shots she took

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

Still got 30 while being doubled

@DrRickHyde Ай бұрын

@user-rv2cf3cg4g Ай бұрын

10-28 she choked @@Axel-ye8tt

@ladavionjohnson Ай бұрын

Maya Moore was insane Maya Moore that girl never put Caitlin in that sentence

@Axel-ye8tt Ай бұрын

Pull the stats and show me

@acemetevia Ай бұрын

Caitlin choked twice?

@EvangelismforGod Ай бұрын

No, her bench choked! They scored zero points. If you don’t get no help from your teammates you are going to lose.

@user-rv2cf3cg4g Ай бұрын

@@EvangelismforGod10-28 She choked

@MrChaseBlue Ай бұрын

@@user-rv2cf3cg4glol you can only do so much if your team is not there

@user-rv2cf3cg4g Ай бұрын

@@MrChaseBlue Stop the crying

@yahcrack Ай бұрын

17:52 SHADY IN HIS FEELINGS SIMPING FOR THAT WHTIE GIRL

@lord-marroking1315 Ай бұрын

And you’re just a jealous racist piece of trash.

@user-wt5gr4kg6r Ай бұрын

😂😂He big mad😂😂

@shelldmill9070 Ай бұрын

Really white girl u sound dumb

@aswanwilliam Ай бұрын

He is a tether

@deadflies4265 Ай бұрын

I swea bro

@judon4908 Ай бұрын

Caitlin Clark had a good game overall but she was looking real regular while Raven Johnson was guarding her. That's not G.O.A.T.-like behavior. She is one of the greats but definitely not thee greatest.

@jacobnyhart6862 Ай бұрын

Fact - Caitlin certainly looked like a goat (little letters) when Raven picked her pocket on the lazy dribble and took it to the hoop to end the first half. Dawn said it right - she's ONE OF the GOATS, I can get behind that - but 46% career shooter, 37.1% career 3 point shooter. When you are putting up almost 2800 career shots, you're going to get the points (even with questionable make stats). Shady wants some examples -- Swoopes was 53%/41% (3 pt) over her career. Maya Moore was 53%/40% (3 pt) while going 150-4 in her career at UConn. Plenty of contenders for the title of GOAT -- all with Natty's. We also can't overlook the fact that Clark's efficiency actually dropped in the 23-24 season from 22-23 while taking almost 350 more shots.

@acegohard4731 Ай бұрын

@@jacobnyhart6862 Um they played on deep teams where the entire defense wasn't focused on stopping one player. Caitlin carried a team of nobody's

@wardy4903 Ай бұрын

Her dropping 30 while a super teams entire gameplan revolved around defending her is regular lmao

@judon4908 Ай бұрын

@@wardy4903 She was 1-11 (9%) while Raven Johnson was guarding her; when I said "regular" I was being kind.

@victorshaw8619 Ай бұрын

How is a player who choked in back to back championships the GOAT? 🤔

@kammyr4082 Ай бұрын

😂bc she's white.... thats all...

@ChristianPairan Ай бұрын

What about Dan Marino in football he did not win a Superbowl but still a great player. You have to have a good team around you. She will get on a good team in the Wnba and win a championship and all your mouths will drop and make you finally hush your mouths.

@victorshaw8619 Ай бұрын

@@ChristianPairan Ok...but i'm NOT talking about Dan Marino.The question was how is she the GOAT after choking twice and not getting a ring? The deflection is strong out here🤦‍♂

@ChristianPairan Ай бұрын

The point is basketball is a team sport not one person can win a championship for your team.

@victorshaw8619 Ай бұрын

@@ChristianPairan So if her team would've won, would the narrative have been the team was the GOAT? All I keep hearing is that SHE (as an individual) is the GOAT, but she couldn't win when it counts. I guess in that case does "to the looser goes the spoils" apply?

@sam232100 Ай бұрын

I guess Fox found their new Uncle Ruckus, and his name is LaSean McCoy.

@Prettyfresh20 Ай бұрын

Acho is uncle ruckus, LeSean is just the short chubby side kick, trying so hard to make a name for himself while pleasing the white man to keep that paycheck coming in so he can afford child support.

@eyenonowdtruth5836 Ай бұрын

You sholl right. I “used” to like him too smh oh well.

@Bthereale Ай бұрын

Yes they did 😂

@DrRickHyde Ай бұрын

@camvole8806 Ай бұрын

The problem with this argument is no one from uconn or Tennessee is in top 10 scoring for a reason so if they went to a team that was okay because iowa wasnt bad before Caitlin. They would’ve scored way mirr

@clmrchris Ай бұрын

Sheryl Swoopes and Maya Moore are better than Clarke

@acegohard4731 Ай бұрын

those two had stacked teams and less competition back then

@kammyr4082 Ай бұрын

@@acegohard4731individual talent isn't determined by teams. A true will shine no matter what. They were good on a team that had other great players. That says it all

@clmrchris Ай бұрын

@@acegohard4731 Sheryl played at Texas Tech…no that’s false lol. Maya did but she was the best player on that team and she didn’t have the freedom to shoot as much because of the other players but still put up great numbers

@frederickmoore2458 Ай бұрын

@@acegohard4731bs Texas Tech wasn’t stacked if that’s the case Sheryl Swoops wouldn’t had to score 47 points to win

@Kimberly.1991 Ай бұрын

I can't with shady 🤦🏾‍♀️

@DarricSmith-vt1ci Ай бұрын

You can’t be the goat without a title. CC had a great college career.

@RevivalQuadCities Ай бұрын

She has more than a title -- she has lots and lots of records. And deals. Nearly all players of Sunday's winning team or future winning teams don't -- and will never match that.

@DarricSmith-vt1ci Ай бұрын

@@RevivalQuadCities so you rather have records that maybe broken one day or a nation title that can never be taken away?

@focuz4899 Ай бұрын

@@RevivalQuadCities More than a title ? Why do you think Caitlin was trying so hard to win it? Because it means something.

@MadamPrez328 Ай бұрын

The first topic should be about the WINNERS/CHAMPIONS! Dawns legacy & what CC did should have been second in dialogue. Any other Champion would get that nod.

@lord-marroking1315 Ай бұрын

People watched womens college basketball because of Caitlin Clark not to watch a coach. Staley should be 2nd in the conversation.

@baller0724 Ай бұрын

@@lord-marroking1315YOU watched because of an over hyped failure was playing. Others was watching the REAL history being made by one of the greatest coaches in Women's college basketball

@lord-marroking1315 Ай бұрын

@@baller0724 no cares about Staley other than black people, so no I watched the best player on the country try to win by herself over a self center, race baiting, jealous coach.

@baller0724 Ай бұрын

@@lord-marroking1315 😂😂😂cry some more because your great whyte HYPE is a complete and utter failure when it comes to the big games. Tell her to learn how to shoot going right and MAYBE should be good enough

@bumpsy2358 Ай бұрын

@@lord-marroking1315 you can always tell a white supremacy boot licker they always use the term race bating when nobody else did. Actually noone thinks a homely looking white chick, that looks like fireman bill, is the greatest of all time, but trailer trash whites. That can't win because just like most underachievers, they 100 percent regular and below average.