The female host's hate for this movie gives me life 😆(sorry still learning your names) My new favorite podcast. Now I've listened to every episode and I'm sad. I need more!

Make my voice be 4:3 ratio 😂😂 gosh I dig y'all. ❤️

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You just know Joss Whedon had been sitting on that Brunch joke for years, and then thought this is the Movie to use it in. Or maybe he had nothing for the scene, and thought you know that thing I always say when we go out for Brunch every Sunday?

Actually Guardians of the Galaxy introduced a bunch of characters all at once in one movie in not much over 2 hours, so it can be done. And NONE of those characters were known by the general public. 4 of the Justice League characters were well known to the public, the biggest 2 that weren’t were Aquaman and Cyborg, but it could be argued that the Teen Titans cartoon gave a good foundation for Cyborg.

You mention Batman Vs Superman at the end, it's my opinion that BvS makes sense once you realize that "Martha" is Bruce and Clark's Safeword.

So fucking scary that even as far back as Buffy, people were afraid of leaving Whedon alone with a 15 year old and he was STILL HIRED BY MARVEL

Regarding the quote that broke Ian or Clint (still learning y’all, sry): I’d like to see one of these super hero ensembles use a team of previously unused heroes and introduce them Ocean’s Eleven style. Or… wait, did I just write The Suicide Squad? 🤔

While I agree that WB rushed into JL too quickly, you can't blame Snyder. I read an interview with Chris Terrio I think it was, and he said that WB railroaded Snyder into BvS and then the Justice League storyline after MoS when Snyder wanted to do build up movies/a sequel to MoS.

I was quite baffled watching The Snyder Cut, as I knew it was 4hrs, but I kept thinking what have they added? It's the 2hrs movie, is it playing at 0.5 speed? Obviously there are additional scenes, and scene extensions, but I thought the majority of changes were just alt dialog. I can't believe Snyder would wanted to have released this in theaters, surely he would have looked to hack an hour off it at least, as it drags out such a straight forward story.

I really enjoyed the commentary. I actually enjoyed Snyder's cut for the record... but I still found you guys (and gal) to be entertaining. Thanks for the podcast!

Picturing a Zack Snyder designed car with a vertically oriented windshield

Good grief - SHE IS HILARIOUS. Do you guys ever name yourselves? I’d listen to any of you solo or together. “I just had a case of the wh-hedons.”

The second best part of this podcast is reading the comments crying about their idols being trashed I love you guys!

Firstly, I'm new to this podcast, but damn, you guys are addicting to listen to! Secondly, though, I know it's nowhere near out yet; I can already see The Flash movie being a subject of a future podcast episode because holy crap xDD Nonetheless, I look forward to more episodes from y'all very much, and this episode convinced me to sub to the channel. Probably because of that Frosty the Snowman tangent or just Clint, but who knows? :)

Turns out Ray Fisher has only been in Snyders movies.....

Ppl went from shitting on bvs to having him call in on a show. The true SnyderVerse

Now that's a *cold* open.

Rae is so amazing I love her!!

I love watching crap moves on 2x. Makes it much more enjoyable

I saw this in IMAX at the Australian premiere and it was epic!! 4 hours flew by and it was a completely immersive experience. I only didn’t like the tacked on Knightmare sequence.

It's sad all this discussion about Bat Girl and we'll never see it because of tax fudging by HBO Warner.

God, if there is anything I learn from this episode, it's that Joss Whedon is a terrible person, like man how terrible he is kinda ruins some of the stuff he made

I love this series and this is probably my favourite episode.

Why do I feel like the Frosty action movie became the new David Harbour Santa movie...

Love the podcast! So sad that people won’t just let you guys have your own opinions! I actually really like Snyder’s version of the film, but I still loved this episode and laughed many times! Great episode!

I do think the Snyder cut of justice league was better, there was more heart to it some of the characters were flushed out a little more but let’s be real it was really the same story as the other movie except there was a couple characters more in the Snyder cut. That being said while I think Man of Steel he’s my favorite superman movie of all time and I do love the casting of all the characters in justice league, I really wish they would’ve just done it the right way. I know everyone saying that “oh that’s marvelous way that doesn’t mean it’s right!” When you have individual movies that at first don’t really connect together and you love those movies and then the lead from all of those movies show up in one movie together it makes it feel more epic it makes it feel more special. The DCEU was rushed for bonus reasons because they knew AT&T was going to be selling to discovery in a couple years. And they thought all you had to do was put these movies out and they would make $1 billion because that’s what Disney was doing with Marvel Studios and Lucas film. And while I think Zack Snyder is a good Director I think he does better with just a one character movie like man of steel. Once he starts trying to put a team in there I feel like most of his focus goes to the looking feel of the movie but not actual the story or the characters as much. I think Batman versus superman was a good movie 3/4 in but then the last quarter of that movie he just couldn’t help himself. That was too much for one movie. And it was stupid to kill superman in the second movie in your shared universe because it’s not like when Iron Man died were you had people crying in the theater because they had been with that version of Iron Man for nine or 10 movies or whatever. It meant something when Iron Man died. When Superman died no one cared because we knew he was coming back in justice league. I am a DC diehard fan, I don’t hate Marvel I think people that hate things like that are kind of crazy it’s OK not to be a fan but to have a hatred of it I think makes someone a psychopath because it’s just entertainment, and I actually believe DC has the better universe to do a shared cinematic universe but the fans kind of only have themselves to blame here. They did not support man of steel in theaters, and they made fun of Batman versus superman for a full year after it came out. You couldn’t go on social media in a DC group without people posting that stupid Martha meme 50 times a day. So they didn’t care about Zack Snyder’s first movie and then they made fun of the second one, fans need to understand that you kind of need to support this stuff when it’s happening because I thought the fans look really dumb, not all of us but all these people all the sudden only after Warner Bros. show Zack Snyder the door do they decide they really love him. So where was all this love and support when he needed you guys?

There’s a comic store owner out of Las Vegas that is still ranting 3-5 days/week about ZSJL on his YT channel. The dude is 50, and exhibits all the crazy behaviour you folks covered in this and the other ZSJL video. Totally defended Ezra and claimed The Flash was a success. He must scare away customers at some point.

the beautiful thing about the way the mcu started their eu was that they teased it all. every movie became a trailer for a new movie to help build up the hype. apparently Warner Bros didn't realize they weren't even on that hype train from the start and instead put in some lame emails adendums into one of their lame ass movies and then thought they were on the same level. like everything they did from then on would be just as eagerly gobbled up.

Snyder wanted to burn down the house with his Version of a DCU. Guess he wanted a huge version of "Brightburn" with the following movies. 🙄

it seems like a studio decision, to test a longer format movie as a streaming exclusive as a test more traditional shorter movie lengths in the age of binge watching and instant resume. The campaign just helped it be a safe choice to get profit even if the test didn't succeed. I think fans are deluded if they think such tactics give them a voice or that their harassment campaign made a difference.

Watching/listening today... Ray Fisher is filming "Rebel Moon" with... 🥁... Zach Snyder 👍 + I definitely liked the Snyder version better... Yet I watched it once and probably never again and... It's 🤦‍♂️ still so messy, bloated and weird editing at times for sure. Why they cannot make a IRL version of something like the Justice League animated movies is just sad, how it can be done it RIGHT there... 😅

You guys have chemistry on par or better than when cracked used to do “After Hours”,

Just started getting into this podcast/show. A bit sad to hear how you all approached Fisher's claims of racism. But such is the experience of people of color throughout the world. Brushing off his concerns so long as long as you can find some other reason for something happening. I'll just note that you didn't take the same approach in critiquing the allegations of the buffy cast.

Oh please cover The Flush with Ezra Groomer and Rubble Moon.

So glad I don't follow Twitter... yikes.

Just to be clear, the 4:3 ratio didn’t crop the sides out, it just opened up the mattes on the top and bottom of the footage. Areas that are meant to not be shown, but to have as a safe zone for repositioning the frame of a shot a little here and there. That being said, editing and releasing it in 4:3 was fucking *stupid* . 😂

I like the movie... until Supes started to maim the villain. At that moment i remember why i wasn't a fan of the Snyderverse at the first place.

please 🙏 enough time has passed 😅release / record part 2 😢I need it

The commentary is actually longer than the movie.. 😂

I know this is old and this was a minor point on this episode and all, but it really irk me when people make this argument. Warner bros didn't need to follow the marvel model and start with smaller individual movies for multiple characters. The MCU model isnt the only one that works, we have seen a different one work rather well and DC was the one that did it well first, which makes the JL movies failure hit even worse. I am talking about the model both Dc and Marvel often use in animation, and the 90s DCAU JL cartoon is just a master class. You don't need to have watched the superman or the batman shows before to jump at the world invasion 3 part pilot, get a good first impression of each character, see an interesting plot, see the league been formed... and it only lasts some 70 minutes, fits neatly in a standard movie with time to spare. Seriously, that they didn't just make the JL movie a sort of reimagining of that pilot but with some different characters, and milked the shit out of that in marketing. They had the recipe right there, proven and tested, all with a bonus moon sized free nostalgia bait. Sucks to suck I guess.

The Polynesian Snowman.

I think I’d agree with the vitriol and skepticism about a Snyder cut and all the childish outrage over them before I saw the movie. But I saw it and I was actually impressed that it was pretty cohesive and had good drama. But I had low expectations so

After Rebel Moon, I'm convinced Zack cannot make a good movie, 300 being the only exception. Don't let this man film another movie please I'm begging

Zack Snyder’s Sucker Punch doesn’t exist yet because the studio won’t release his cut. He’s been on record saying that his vision for Sucker Punch, like David Ayer’s Suicide Squad cut, has not been seen. All you have is the studio cut of those films.

Even though I have really enjoyed this podcast, it really shows your bias against DC. In my opinion, ZS Justice League is what I’ve always wanted in a superhero movie. It was nearly perfect.

20:26 He’s such a joke. Claiming to own DC characters.

I enjoy the snyder cut I honestly just wanted it because it would fit more with the snyder "trilogy" but it is hilarious how people can get so wound up by make believe charecters.

And even despite all of this it is still my favorite superhero movie of all time.

How about a sign: "you must be THIS WHITE to fly" xD

1:23:55 That is THE best way to describe what WB and DC have been doing with their universe! 🤣 Oh my god. Can you guys do a Shit Show on The Batman? The things that have been said about that production seem RIPE for an episode.

People only show you the parts of them they want you to see, so no one can say they really know someone. No one knows what happened but the ppl involved and yea it's almost impossible for a black man to say he's been discriminated against, belittled, threatened, or disrespected nowadays.. #ReleaseTheSnyderVerse

Of course all they did was decolorize Superman's suit. I thought it was funny that people were excited for a black & white suit.

Zack Snyder seems to miss more than hit in my opinion. Even when his movies aren't messed with by other people. I think 300 and Dawn Of The Dead remake are considered his best films. I remember coming across the Dawn Of The Dead remake years ago on the scifi channel and I thought it was one of those corny scifi original movies. 300 didn't have any impact on me either way. I felt neutral about it. I guess I'm just not the demographic for his stuff. But more power to him for getting his vision for this movie out. I didn't watch either of them. But this podcast about it was interesting. Lol.

Love this channel, but I gotta stand up for "Hallelujah," that song is awesome. Also #releasemomoafrostee

Many years back after BvS trailer had dropped a friend was going to Jersey to play a rugby game Cavil was attending, he knew they were gonna lose he just wanted to shout “Do you bleed!” He did and apparently Cavil rolled his eyes, he’d heard it a few times. This friend moved away and I miss him so when I saw the Whedon Cut call back to that line I smiled thinking about how my friend and how Cavil might have enjoyed getting his own back. And that is my main reason for not liking the Snyder Cut cause it didn’t appreciate an in-joke I have with no-one cause he’s moved.

How do you sound ginger?

I wish your lady host wasnt just my cousin if she did this its actually the most distracting thing in the world 😂

I think the directors cut is definitely an improvement, I even think it might be a good movie if it was an hour shorter. Im glad the actors and snyder got to have their movie.

I actually kinda liked the snyder cut. I feel like it’s hard for me at least to look at it without the lens of “this is a reskin of another movie” but when I try to think about it without the other movie in mind I got more attached to the characters bc I saw more of them in general. Loved this episode tho, can’t wait for your frosty the tattoo’d battle warrior episode :>

So this is just a Zack Snyder hate video.....?

Peter Berg is a real hack. Imagine having to do press for Battleship lmfao sheeessssh

I did like this version of the film I wished it were the original version But all these pretentious stuffs Bang on guys LoL

people saying this cut is actually good convinced me covid-brain was a real and serious thing.

Rae didn't just express her opinion (which is fine, obviously), she WANTED to shit on anything Snyder-related, it screamed bad faith, and that was so gratuitous... I love your podcast, I've said it elsewhere, but she kinda damaged this one. It seems to me that Sh*t shows aren't... that.

Snyder is a very niche director and his films are enjoyable to me, I respect that he’s got his own style. I thought ZSJL was a decent film with very cool world building. Wished it was the version we got in the cinemas. And it’s really totally fine for anyone to think the film is bad. But the Rae girl in this podcast totally ripping apart Zack Snyder at every turn and shitting on the guy as a human being is extremely distasteful. Even mocking his choice to use his daughters favourite song in the film is such a low act. Shit, the girls death is forever synonymous with the JL saga and would be so cathartic to the Snyder family to finish the film that they left during the absolute worst time a parent could have. I hope that Rae never experiences the hate she’s giving Zack and I truly deeply hope that nobody records and broadcasts themselves mocking and making fun of her after she suffers a death in her immediate family

The ironic cynicism from this group is insufferable.

In X-Men, Joss was behind this moment: "Do you know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else. [lightning strikes]" According to him, it was meant to be... "[lightning strikes] Huh...the same thing that happens to everything else." So the smallest thing can make or break a line. While Snyder encourages ad-libbing, Joss needs actors to say the words perfectly. Snyder adds people of color for the sake of progress; Joss is an actual storyteller. He shouldn't have tried to fix this mess of a movie. Then again, neither should've Snyder.

Rae does seem to have an irrational hatred of Zack Snyder, which made the podcast quite imbalanced.

Fucking thank you, thank you, thank you. The only way I could force myself to watch this thing was on a plane lol Meaning I needed to be trapped in a metal tube in the air haha I just...ugh...seeing how the fans gobbled this up and tried to defend everything Snyder...just drives me up the wall. My respect for someone goes down a notch if they really can't see what a shit show the whole DC Snyderverse thing was.

Eh, i wish they focused more on the movie itself.

Zach Snyders Justice League is leaps better than Josstice League. Snyder was going to use the time travel concept years before Marvel did with Endgame. If he'd been able to stay on track.

I had to stop the podcast at 30 minutes. The negative bias and hate the female host has towards Snyder is so evident. And not even in a move maker level but at a personal level. And that's not "an opinion" it's just toxic, childish behaviour. Hating someone on a personal level just because he makes movies you don't like, just pathetic. Also, she says Snyder has a huge ego multiple times. Jesus, these haters make up the craziest things in their heads just to justify their hate. Literally anyone who has worked with Snyder has said he is the most humble and easy-to-work-with director. Every actor, stuntman and crew worker has nothing but good things to say about the guy. But I guess small time youtubers know best. That attitude just shows the clear bias of this podcast that seems to be done by 15 year olds.

Complains about the movie being too long... Does an almost 2 hour podcast crying about it. Ain't nobody got time for that. I just wanted to hear about the movie production. Oh well. Wrong channel.

This was impossible to sit through sorry yall

I liked this episode a lot but I feel it would have worked just as well without constantly dumping on the film and by extension fans of it

A special place in hell for people who make people cry? Are you kidding me? How about people who purport my body my choice because a baby would be inconvenient? Priorities...

yikes shes married? this chick cant go 1 episode without man hating someone.