Talion while absolutely despise orcs, he still respects his followers Celebrimbor only see them as tools and servants and nothing more

I always liked how talion hates orcs but does respect the ones who follow him.

Talion tried to civilize Orcs and bring order to Mordor while Celebrimbor just wanted to be a king.

@@thecommentguy9380 in all fairness I'd say most of hist hatred disappears during Shadow Wars

It actually makes since that talion likes some of the orcs considering his relationship with ratbag

Past One does not simply walk into Mordor. The epicness of the speeches roasts mortal men alive.

I would either run away or run toward in order to offer my service most likely run away though too many orcs in the way

He sounds badass

It’s not a real place

@@michelleforde1526 thank you captain obvious

To be fair, talion is a nazgul

@@pogggaming4470 appreciate Celebrimbor's speeches more. But Talions voice effect is far superior.

Tyler Tenebrae and the means of production

Populist Talion

Virgin Totalitarian vs Chad Communist

@@_EldenRing_ Those things are the same

@@ToxicBastard maybe. maybe not. virgin and chad are two sides of the same coin afterall.

It's just a shitty autotune filter......

Pretty generic if you ask me.

To be honest I got the feeling Sauron considered Talion even more dangerous than Celebrimbor. He got very lucky when Celebrimbor left Talion no choice but to wield one of the Nine if he was to hold Mordor alone. Given Talion's apparent immunity to the New Ring's corruption (imo due to him sacrificing the Gift of Men, and his chance of reuniting with his family to protect the rest of Middle Earth), had he been fighting without Celebrimbor, but wielding the New Ring instead, he could have held Mordor indefinitely, unless Sauron was willing to step out of Barad Dur to finish the job himself. And my impression has always been that Sauron is still too weak to have much strength anywhere besides Barad Dur (at this point in canon, obviously he used to be much stronger). In a few centuries maybe he could recover enough to completely deck Talion anywhere, but in the meantime, unless Talion walked into that fortress, Talion was the most dangerous being in Mordor, not Sauron. It would have been a true stalemate.

Celebrimbor may have been the Bright Lord, but Talion was ALWAYS the Gravewalker.

Whole reason he became it was to stand against the dark lord.

The lord or mordor*

JakeGaming324 the lord of Mordor is Sauron

Wee Aboo He referring to Sauron and Celebrimbor

He withstood that ring for 80 years 80 f£&#ing years

Lord Lycan I really wish that was a thing

@@HowTo11414 And how! Alas, but it seems Monolith is moving on. What a missed opportunity to get a little more love for this game.

Shadow wars are infinite now So you can effectively get infinite speeches when losing the quest And to not get betrayed from being killed I found doing worse than death shaming the uruk that killed you delays/stops betrayals within your ranks but betrayals are still random

@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer Read his comment again.

Seems like the only way to replay these badass stuff is to purposely lose your fort defense, just make sure you die to a low level orc cause it was damn obnoxious trying to recover a fort taken from a orc 15 levels higher than me

I've heard the orcs say "Find the Nazgul" when I sneak off to try and get a stealth attack on a captain

Gravewalker would be good

@@FeeshOfTGMC indeed, but the blue color after it bothered me. Should had been green at that point?

@@joynelbonetdelgado4952 it should be green

I agree

For a hundred years ._.

Nah they are called dark lord also in my playthrough

“Bright lord dark lord same thing really”

@@theforgottenscotsman7659 facts

Lord of mordor is just saurons title.

@@theforgottenscotsman7659 Never did think about how surprisingly well Brüz foreshadowed that shit until now. Like he needs to pick up the phone, cus he fucking called it.

I think that the orcs that only wear blue armor technically follow him willingly, the ones that aren’t branded i mean, I think they’re the orcs your captains ruled over

Who's Michael? Cause that's me name...

@@lordwarlockthangwrath8662 Michael Forgey was a developer for the game Shadow of Mordor, he had died and I just wanted to honor him.

@@kravv1232 ah! Yes, I recall now. Guess I "Forthog", he?

@@kravv1232oh really? 😔 my respects to the man

Dave Downs Jr. facts

T H E U N A S S A I B L E S T R E N G H T OF MY .... A R R M Y Y Y! No sir i must object

Idk man, the Arena speech and the Speech about Traitors were fucking amazing

@@vortexeffect2781 yeah Celebrimbor was 10/10 at speeches💯💯💯

@@yourman1200 ye but talion was 100/10

In the black gate but this isn't really talion anymore

@@cream_pieluver its still talion, he just goes a tad bit evil every now and then because of the ring. This is showed when/if you die, the nazgul whos ring he took talks to talion and he resists to turn 100% nazgul.

@@undscvr That's the Witch King talking to him, not Isildur.

@@cream_pieluver "as long as there is life in my body my fate remains my own" "I am not of darkness yet" he's still himself just wears the ring of a nazgul

@@peanutrecord6989 Wait, the second one is wrong i think. I remember him saying he WAS part of the darkness but no in the witch king domains YET"

The voice effect is great.

@@ankelaostheweird905 I really wish I could get a voice changer that does that xD

Nuh, he must serve the bright lord

@@Tabby3456 he wont serve The Bright Lord .

Talions speech are more badass but celebrimbor knows how to handle an army which is why his is more hyped because of his past experience

Your profile is Jesus recruiting thanos lol

All hail the nazgul

All hail lord Revan!

Lord Talion WE WILL FIGHT IN HIS NAMEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

All Hail Lelouch

I thought that was only me 🤣

That is no glitch. Sometimes it just happens.

He forgot his speech lmao

midgerm yeah I liked that too

If you put a member of the dark orc tribe as overseer it fits with talons new ringwraith look

@@welsh-cymru1588 Only problem is that they'll build statues of Sauron, which doesn't really make sense, but it's minor issue that you can easily ignore if it doesn't bother you.

@@noiwontsignyourarmpit5263 it does make sense that's one of the reasons why it fits because you join the nazgul at the end and serve sauron

@@welsh-cymru1588 How? Talion literally renounces Sauron when he captures a fortress. Doing so, then having orcs build statues of his *sworn enemy* is completely illogical. Sure, he eventually joins Sauron, but that doesn't happen until long after our playtime.

@@noiwontsignyourarmpit5263 I know that but I changed all my forts to the dark tribes and I wear the blackened servant armor with the mask of the undying and only do online fort conquests talion dont give the speach about taking down the lord of morder after each fort conquest only single player conquests it feels like I'm capturing forts for sauron then

Do you mind if I steal this and make a meme about it. Edit: Did it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLmSlaWlu9KdiZs.html

@@3.2187_Kilometres go for it. Just tell me when u make it. I always thought it would make for a good meme

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naw more like GREEN LORD because greenish colors

Truth it is better

Diana Chidsey eh nazgul lord? No.. ringwraith lord? No... fuck it shadow lord. There we go

Edge lord

Fun Fact the blade of thing is the one who voiced tailons wife

kept*

@@ChristianProtossDragoon thank you my friend

Steinn Bjorn ikr

id vote for tailon

Make middle-earth great again

"On it, Ranger! Er, can I get some for Ranger and I?" "Go ahead. Just don't anger any of the captains... They tend to gut filchers." "Filcher? Me? It's just a little grog!" "Tell that to whoever takes your fingers off."

I wanted to but my gpu is dead and i dont have money to buy a new one atm i will try asap!

They both say we

@@bleachedshadow9981 Talion never separates his followers from himself, as if he and them are one being. "WE are Mordor" Celebrimbor made it very clear that his followers are just his servants. "You fight for the Bright Lord"

@@thecommentguy9380 “you will serve,serve me,you fight for me now” are all Talion Domination quotes that differ from what you said.

@@bleachedshadow9981 im talking about the fort capture lines, obviously he still force them to work for him

Fax

Or the flaming Eye 👀

While you could be right, it’s also because minas morgul is your main base if you look in the army screen (talion is the overlord of it)

@@Acrysalis Yes, but he didn't convert Minas Morgul to a human city after that. It's still under Nazgul's control (under Talion's control). I mean he could convert it back to Ithil.

You'll have your wish, apparently there's gonna be a third.

@@Spiffy-sd5ix good, very good.

@@Spiffy-sd5ix oh wow really thank you for telling me I’m excited

Talion, how do you feel about Celebrimbor betraying you?

He poured his power and life force into his ring just as Celebrimbor did, he is near powerless at this point compared to how he was when he had the ring. The only difference is that Celebrimbor's ring has a wearer and Sauron's ring is being kept by a hobbit far from Mordor.

a Nazgul

​@@PetersaberHD a nazgul in rebellion xD

The Grave Lord, a combination of lord and Gravewalker.

Do you know a way to fix that? I never got to hear a single one

@@yourman1200 you can’t fix that, but you can start new game and it’s will fix

@@yourman1200 sorry for bad english

@@user-cl8qg9jf4f oh ok thank you so much👍

@@yourman1200 no problem)

Talion is powerful then bright lord and Witch King . Even Sauron. Celembrimbor sees everyone like tools .

@@FeeshOfTGMC Well technically yeah. Dark Talion is stronger than Celembrimbor. Evident by the fact that Talion+Celembrimbor were struggling and had to 2v1 (Eltariel) the Nazgul in order to beat them. Dark Talion however single handedly defeated the Witch-King who was by far the strongest of the Nazgul. So: Dark Talion >Bright Lord Talion.

Thor Odinson how many fucking times its ringwraith talion not dark

Actually if shelob never took the ring the talion and celebrimbor would of beaten sauron and won

Kyriacos Keravnos I think Celebrimbor was holding back because he wanted to dominate the Nazgul, not kill them.

💀 damn you kinda right

They cannot do this as long Talion wearing Isildur's ring

That would be awesome, maybe eltarial next to talion. Missed opportunity

if eltariel gave celebrimbor's ring Talion would be again normal and everything could be different

Supeusz she’s greedy tho. She would never have done it.

@@HowTo11414 Imagine Nazgul Talion possessing Eltariel. Now that would be a team

Yes

@@thecommentguy9380 well that sounds obnoxious and tedious to do honestly. 😐

ReddyTRM Backo dark talion

Cause talion would not try to dominate sauron (celibrimbor is an idiot)

Truth

@@HowTo11414 Talion has already beat the witch king, he knows Celebrimbors moves because he has used them before and Sauron is a big clumsy oaf.

@@borkbork6888 Sauron with his ring is a different problem entirely.

Its weird skin bug. Just equip the skin your supposed to have then reset.

Arthas would be rekt from the start by the guy.

@@nordicgaming5429 Arthas: all shall serve. In life, or death Talion: i am banished from death

Personally Talion Why ? Because Celebrimbor’s speech emphasises on his personal glory and return and few times mentions hard work his minion did But Talion’s of course he’s ring wraith on process to become Nazgûl. However he recognises His minions on every speech that’s make good leader boss than Celebrimbor’s

I agree.

My favourite one is afyer you get the fort back from Bruz

No Wrong

Shut Up He Means What He Says

Fuk Up You Hater Tailon Legit Sacrificed Himself For Mordor Shut Up His Speechs Are Better Celebrimbor Is Just A Stupid Betrayer