Yeah he wouldve been sliced to bits

Imagine a wraith amongst the nine who is even stronger than the witch king, oof

Talion could of just shadow strike him

or maybe even as a wraith he was trying to hold back his power when he was forced by the ring to kill frodo... just a thought

Well, as a wraith he basicly lost his personality and with it prabably a lot of skill, but yes, if Frodo would face end-game/chapter 4 Talion he would be dead as shit before Gandalf even thought about checking the bushes!

Matheus Bondezan realistic huh, makes sense considering that hes riding on a drake at the end.

Loud Noises Everyone ride a dragon one day of his life

Richard Pastel huh, I'll look forward to it

Not really unexpected. Like what, you couldn't think Talion was gonna live a happy new life with a new family outside of Mordor.

It's not over, Celebrimbor still remains and Eltariel will hunt him with the New Ring around her finger.

Dustin Caldwell true. But if it wasn’t for him, the armies of Mordor would’ve marched on Middle Earth before Frodo got the One Ring

Doi Doi Very true he was like Rouge One in star wars he was not the hero who saved the day he mearly helped to create the opening that would help someone else save it by buying the heroes who would save middle earth years and years of time to prepare. He may have fallen into darkness but he won something that is valuable in any war and that is time.

Speaking of Star Wars similarities, I felt like he was like the apprentice in the force unleashed, powerful video game characters who had an impact on how things played out

It's a shame it's not Tolkien canon! Very intriguing and inspiring story about a man who decided to fall so that all that is good around him stands. *claps*

He's the noble 6 of LOTR . While he's not directly responsible for saurons defeat, without talion It would never have even started.

I know you wrote this like 2 years ago, but your comment made me laugh so much that I just had to applaud you, sir

Javier for real lmao

WTF🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

"Seriously, who the fuck stab people in the ass?"

@@thecommentguy9380 Fat little gardener, he wrote it above :)

Aaron Verhoeven of course he looked at acharn it's his sons broken sword

Yes

Aaron Verhoeven And the flower near Acharn reminds us about the wife of Talion, they are reunited at last...

Aaron Verhoeven maybe he was surpised it actually really shred into dirt

Aaron Verhoeven and the flower that grew right next to it was Talion’s wife meaning that they were finally reunited in the end

Philipp Huber he smiled in some cutscenes during main storyline. Short smiles, more so amused, but smiles none the less. For example Ratbags jokes at the start of the game

@@Ben-zh4nz He reminded him of Shadow of Mordor I guess... Ah, the good old times

Too invested

yeah I agree, I liked the way the game connects in it's own way to the films.

and similar were the eye look at the doors to mt doom,the falling of towers,explosion etc :) pretty much 1:30-1:58 like copied from rotk movie.

And isildur's memory also copy of film :)

Joseph Chianelli I've noticed nice detail there.

The way the eye sits atop the tower is obviously different

Well, AFTER he was consumed by an ultimate evil and reforged into one of the nine soulless ringwraiths I'd say the other eight were pretty solid bros.

Joshua Tovar well at the end he becomes free

It's sad in the sense he has to wait and sacrifice to go to his family in the afterlife, his sacrifice in holding back Sauron as long as he did gave the time for Bilbo and Frodo to shape the story of the ring in their own way and for middle earth to prepare for what was to come.

At least in the end he was forgiven for denying death and allowed afterlife.

Thor Son don't forget his son, the original wielder of Acharn

Talion lived. He lived long enough to become the hero again.

Fits

he didn't live after the one ring was destroyed, his soul was released from sauron's control and he passed into the afterlife

And sometimes you die and come back as the Villain anyway...

harvey dent/two face quote

Double D what does that mean?

Luoi Nguyen No clue, pretty sure its the same flowers that Talion gave to his wife in the start of the game. It could mean that Talion is leaving the past behind(dropping his gear, dropping his son's broken sword that conveniently is near the same flowers he gave to his wife).

Me: "I won't cry, I'm a man." 2:25, sad music starts: :'''''''C

Bubbles These are the members of his family. Flower is Ioreth (he gave it to her at the beggining of SoM), and Acharn is Dirhael (It was his sword).

also want to mention that that is the same flower the nature goddes (idk her name sorry) has in her hand in aq cutscene and says the cycle never remains unbroken (or something along those lines)

It`s Fires of War :D

i mean this is the ending period. This is the way to get the credits...

Abraham Kresnik what os the name of the song

+Carlos Romero yes too emotional

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Shhesht

Such a great quote, and it fits so perfectly

That part always makes me tear up. So beautiful!

unfortaintly not for Talion. or Celebrimbor for that matter

I'm sure Talion traveled to the same place Frodo did, regardless of him becoming a Nazgul in the end he held back Sauron from destroying Middle-Earth for decades. I'm sure his actions would grant him access to the Halls of Mandos and then to the Gift of Men after Frodo and Sam freed his soul and spirit from Sauron's grasp.

Till the rings of power dropped

This hasn't aged quite so well. I agree that these games were great, but what happened to Star Wars has also happened to TLOTR, Star Trek, and Halo.

It's canon to the Jackson films, but it fits nicely into Tolkien too.

@@Tar-Numendillotr did it best

Spirit Walker you think there actually going to be a sequel I hope so.

Shadow of Time is actually a pretty fitting namd

Shadow of World sounds legit.

No sequel without Talion. R.I.P to our homie.

@@gravewalker_0125 what about in with aragorn that would be cool

Tyler Meldrum I find it more of a "Happy Sadness" washing over me.

A nice bittersweet ending. It wouldn't feel right to have a straight-up happy ending anyway.

not as much as FFXV tho

at least not in Turin Turambar's level

Hollyin Sanest Lol nothing comes close to ffxv. It is the very definition of depressing.

Or when you finally quit your job for a better one

When you’ve defeated the ender dragon with all armors and all swords

and its hidden behind a fucking pay/megagrind wall. yay for WB

I did it for free with no grind at all.

@@herohalv4543 not anymore :)

i look at the shadow games kinda like the star wars eu

@Ryan Fanstone to add on to your point, WB owns the rights to the movies AND the games, sooo... even if one doesn't believe it goes with the books, it automatically goes with the movies.

@Ryan Fanstone there are so many continuity errors in the game that simply just flat out cannot fit in with the established Tolkien story and timelines. This game is badass but it will never be canon.

BRO i know you commented this 3 years ago but still cmon only 9 nazgul went to the shire and hunted frodo not 10 TALION IS NOT CANON

@@JT76912 wasn't 1 of the nazgul killed befor this, so it would make 9, no?

Beast Or Chris and the one it needed

But the one no one hears of.

@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s Because canon he is not

imagine a game where you get to play as a Nazgul :O

That would be bad ass!!

I don't know man.....the amount of bodies he felled in his wake, the brutality and cruelty he inflicted on the orcs.....hard to imagine anyone so drenched in blood entering everlasting peace. I don't know.....in the beginning, Talion had been more man than orc. His time with them....the endless wars he waged with Sauron using said orcs, all of them with their own unique souls.....by the end of the first game he was more orc than man. What he became by the end seemed inevitable, so seeing him walk into that light.....felt like a strange outcome.

For losing his family and his fellow rangers, decade's of suffering,pushing back sauron's forces to protect middle earth and losing everything he loved and thanks to frodo he is finally free from darkness for so long he deserves peace.

Dragon fire 1479 yes but remember, he had the choice to find peace at the end of the first game. His vengeance causes him this suffering. Talion is noble in some aspects of his character, but if anything, his brutality had begun to become more and more prominent. Killing his foes without remorse or pity. He was cruel, nothing excused him from sinking as low as an orc, or as low as the nazgul.

i mean it is orcs. Eru hates the orcs anyways. Plus Talion helped others in the first and second game. Orcs betrayed him so can you blame talion? Then his friend did to him? yeah he earned his place.

I'm not saying he hasn't earned his place, just that it's hard to imagine that someone as brutal as the orcs are, could find peace in the end.

Hash chery preaty much

+SIR SUN MAN yep

Good story, i rly like this game, its sad evryone forgot about talion in the movie

+Xardasek Nekromanci yep

But with out him nothing what happend in lore would hapend

Erevos what do you mean kind of acceptable

reece duddridge talion was like the man who hunted monsters. eventually he became a monster himself.

Mr. Kimidori everyone keeps saying its pay to win and shit but I didn't pay a single cent on the game and I finished act 4 and unlocked the true ending. Totally worth it.

+Star Wars Rebels Clips yes

Star Wars Rebels Clips I mean yeah it's possible.... But it's kinda bullshitty you know? 10 stages of increasingly difficult fortress sieges... I mean... Granted you get a shit load of exp but they kinda over did it. 7 would have been better.

Star Wars Rebels Clips how you do that ?

Littlesoul The Cat I just kept recruiting the attacking orcs to defend the fort

Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that, Shelob and Hammerhand was a bit much but the rest was cool and I enjoyed it. They didn't completely change it and they did it out of respect for the original lore, I see it as an alternate universe; if comics can have an alternate universe why can't this or any other book series. It's not like the LOTR movies were 100% accurate to the books, they would be slaves to the material and it would be boring for it to be exactly like the books page for page. It's a different story but same world, setting and feel of the books; and Tolkien fanatics have to respect that. It's not like they made Middle Earth in Europe in the modern era; now that would really be disrespectful, they didn't besmirch anyone's character or story. Except for me in Game of Thrones, usurpers all of them.

He's an idea, what if the canon and alternate paths happen at the end of shadow of mordor. Suppose in canon Talion is canon, but accepts death at the end of the game, the alternate timeline starts when Talion & Celebrimbor forge their own ring

brendan curran same, i feel exactly the same

Well it doesn't make complete sense as the nazgul men were given rings of power, specifically crafted for the purpose of dominating the minds of men. which happened almost 1000 years before Isildur was even born. So there is no way he could be considered part of the 9.

Stuart is right. Also in Celebrimbor-Sauron fight, Sauron cut the Ring of Power and since Isıldur is dead there is no way that Sauron lose that ring again. I am checking comments and still trying to find the answer about that. Rings of power? Ring of powers? Rings of powers? Isildurs? Whatever.

Yea none of the nazgul in the normal canon could be these nazgul. Talion just released the special ones.

nazgul were nine kings each given a ring of power to govern their land, the most powerful king was also a sorcerer, each ring corrupted them but gave them immortality, their leader the sorcerer king became known as the witch king..

xxSpike1989xx but neither helm nor isildur were nazgul due to the fact that the nine existed for a few thousand years before either of them were born

@@the_dropbear4392 Maybe in Tolkien's lore. But the Shadow of *** games are more, loosely inspired by Tolkien then trying to follow his work.

Gondorian??

cemo1999 Aragorn was not Gondorian, he was one of the Dunadien from the north. He resided in gondor after ROTK. Talion was a ranger from gondor I'm a middle earth nerd yes I know.

Star Wars Rebels Clips Plot twist: they're related.

Star Wars Rebels Clips But isn’t Aragorn related to isildur (a king of gondor)

Mmm I think He looks like Cesar Borgia from Assassins creed 2 and Brotherhood, look for him, you will see they look the same

Wrong movie dude!

no thats the hunger games you mean: The boy who lived, come to die

the king in the north!!!!!!

Harvey Dent Said that in the 2008 batman

That would have been amazing, but the ending is still a good one in my opinion

Snapped Squire your not wrong

Impossible. Once you have become a ring wrath you are doomed to become just a shadow for all eternity without finding peace nor a phisical body. It's something worse than death. And that's why this ending doesn't make sense. The only reason I can think to explain it is that the Valar decided to give a gift for Talion for all he has done by letting him reach the afterlife.

The other 8 took the rings for power, Talion took it because of duty. Only he was allowed afterlife for his sacrifice.

Radabit T Maybe in a dlc ^^

note that his ring fate is unknow

+Nathaniel Claw yep

Maybe we get to see him posses Eltariel again or perhaps Baranor finds the ring. Or maybe both.

When elves die their spirits are called to the halls of Mandos in the far west to wait until the end of the world

Truly was a surprising but yet amazing ending - I didn’t even want to play the last DLC after seeing this or continue to grind fortresses defenses and Orcs. There was no real point after shadows of war and this ending. His story is done and the game is complete ...

But you do realise The Shadow of Mordor series was trying to be its own thing, and did it amazingly well. It doesn’t have to be complete cannon and it shouldn’t be. We basically know everything from the LOTR so why not have a spin off

Khai Du you mean frodo?

Swagmaster Lou Gollum knocked it out of Frodo hands

Khai Du yea well the ring didn't walk by itself to mordor ya know

Swagmaster Lou Frodo wanted to keep the ring at the end ya know

The unlikely hero was Frodo not Gollum altough he had a big part to play as well.

paradise isnt a place where u go to meet other ppl, its yours, and yours alone, a place where u can rest and be happy for the rest of ur existense

The dagger Acharn and the white flower are both representations of Talion's family. Take what you will from it.

That's kinda said in a way..

Beautifully said, my good man!!

No that cutscene was him letting go of his family and by this his vengeance. The sword dropping (his son) and his cloak (gifted to him by his wife), as well as the rose at the end growing by the sword, and the precorrutped ctiy version of the black gate is what he is walking towards.

Chef , that song was written specifically for the ending. Was beautifully done 😊

that scene were talions fellbeast gets hit by the fire from mount doom is from the movie,

Well if they make a third game it might be about him ending celebrimbor. Maybe?

Damien Khan talion isn’t canon, along with the rest of the two shadow of games.

When the war against sauron is over in minas tirith Aragorn becomes the new king of gondor in the end of the return of the king

Squambiblio _ same

dani3111 dani3111 sorry but ure wrong , this game is not about hobbit or lord of the ring ... watch the storys instead of pasing it

dani3111 dani3111 it’s probably true but they could do a game that is talion as a nazgul during the events of Lotr and how he is assigned to destroy celebrimbor (even though he is bound with Sauron)

eru illuvatar could bring talion back to fight celebrimor illuvatar could be talions wraith

you talk as if you were a producer or something clear that they will make more rookie games missing things like where celebrimbor was and the other characters

No we dont

Imagine Eltariel became so corrupted by the Ring, she awoken an evil much more ancient than Sauron..... Morgoth. And you play a Gondorian soldier who died by the hands of Orcs, and Talion returns as a spirit to guide him to face the Ancient Evil

Or out of mordor

Cosmic even his face looks different

Because he was finally at peace and no longer corrupted by Isildurs ring. That's my theory for it. And he looks less broad because the cloak was pretty thick.

Hes younger he looks more like himself in the first game

gcardoso that we know of

When you finish get the final ending screen it gives you "The game isn't over yet the story continues" kinda deal before mention the dlc's so another game could happen

??? Walker nope...i think that after dlc there will be no more Shadow of games

We'll see the sequel of middle earth

Blazing it since 9/11 unless they are but just not with Tellion. I can't see that WB will just let it die when they could make money out of it.

he doesn't die he becomes like a spirit with no power just going around but unable to do anything

Ru Waring actually shelob saw in a vision that talion and celebrimbor together would've defeated sauron but nothing would have changed since celebrimbor is equally as corrupt as sauron

Celebrimbor had either two things happen to him: In ROTK, his spirit broke with the now defeated Sauron and fled to the east (you see the blue shape shoot past Mt. Doom). Or he also died, as his essence was tied to the One Ring. Likely the first is the case, as there are DLCs.

Even with the Ring destroyed, Sauron cannot die as he is a near-primordial spirit, however, the Ring's destruction crippled his power to the point of him being unable to ever reform, thus existing in a state of nothingness. Morgoth is still a threat though as he is destined to return, and he's a thousand times worse than Sauron, given the latter was his lieutenant.

red brad he was wrong af

No the Nazgul were Wraiths and only had features in the Wraith realm. There are two explanations: Talion, being a new Wringwraith, still had a corporeal body, and was therefore able to look human. Secondly, the directors of the game put that there to be able to identify him. Or, when Sauron died/diminished, his hold over Talion did so too, and as a result Talion reverted to being a human with a ring.

Big Boss Smylez Are his skills any different than the bright lord?

Yea Nah yes...a little bit

Mystic Echo yes

Mystic Echo talion

Quang Huy Nguyễn fires of war

Stife9000 Isn't it from that one trailer?

Darude sandstorm

Quang Huy Nguyễn fires of war

Well talion here is the king of uruks hahahaa kidding.

I believe it said Great Men, though I'm quite sure I'm wrong. There is nothing stating a Wraith had to be a King.

Well, the prologue did say "Kings of Men", but it was narrated by Galadriel, who (as far as we know) knows absolutely nothing about Talion, so she is an unreliable narrator

Riccardo Ricobello the nine were around for thousands of years before Talion, Isildur and Helm were born. They were the ancient kings of Númenor given the rings of power

wouldn't call him "just some ranger", especially being bound to a wraith for decades and having all those extra years of waging war, which means he was fighting a hell of a lot longer than those Kings before they became corrupt. He was also Captain of the rangers, if I recall correctly.

no. they said this is the end. they will make a few dlcs including the story packs then its over. talion is dead and gone.

I'd like to see what would happen after Return of the King, and no I do not read the books so Idk what happens after Return of the King

TheSithlord259 they said the same about Shadow of Mordor

Another game would be stupid

Yes big possibility