Shards Changing Intents?? | Dragonsteel 2023 Words of Brandon Part 3

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Shards Changing Intents?? | Dragonsteel 2023 Words of Brandon Part 3 | Shardcast

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We're back with more WoBs, and this time it's the last of the Dragonsteel 2023 Words of Brandon. Today we have a grab bag of a bunch of random stuff, like kandra babies, stabbing Hoid with atium, Harmony lying, and the IDENTITY FIELD returns.
This episode we have Ian (WeiryWriter), Evgeni (Argent), and Grace (thegatorgirl).
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Chapters:
00:00 Introductions
4:37 Other forms of Investiture to Awaken stuff
11:06 Can people other than yoki-hijo negotiate with spirits?
16:28 How much knowledge does a new Vessel get?
26:20 Why did the Heralds think they needed to leave their Blades?
28:46 Vin's earring
30:47 Enhanced Leeching on a normal person
38:47 Why do only the Heralds have magical maladies?
44:36 Dawnshards and Splintered Shards
50:39 Kandra and human babies hybrids??
51:52 The Shroud and tin
56:03 Editorial changes from arcanist comments
59:38 Was Harmony lying at the end of Lost Metal?
1:03:51 Holding Vessels in Hemalurgic spikes
1:07:35 Shallan alter's shapeshifting
1:09:28 Shades attacking non-Threnodites
1:12:19 Canticle's subastral
1:14:53 Was Yolen technologically advanced?
1:18:16 Spiking atium into Hoid's chest
1:21:00 Aux and Nomad's bond is kind of flipped, can this happen to Adolin and Maya?
1:28:14 Who's That Cosmere Character
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@quasibrodo923 5 ай бұрын

Eric doesn't look like himself today

@xy7596 5 ай бұрын

Graces explanation on how a reverse radiant bond beeing one of Ishars physical spren bonding a cognitve shadow is the only correct answer and 90% of the reason for why i am here XD

@hubrisnxs2013 5 ай бұрын

Love you guys and what y'all do, parasocial relationship or no! Thanks for this! Also, it's pretty chaotic even without Eric funny enough

@solitaryrecluse7740 5 ай бұрын

Chaos without Chaos

@dylanhalifaux 5 ай бұрын

Always love opening KZfaq and seeing a video. Thanks for doing this for all of us.

@IThrewDucks 5 ай бұрын

Ghost Eric made me laugh out loud

@17thShard 5 ай бұрын

I'm a Cognitive Shadow now. But don't worry I'll probably get better with the next Return. -Eric

@carl11547 5 ай бұрын

@@17thShardSomebody find a gemstone to bind Eric's Shadow!

@halo6819 5 ай бұрын

Why isn’t “Brandon’s” clock set to 6:31. Spotted the Kandra!

@Landis963 5 ай бұрын

1:01:24 I imagine this is that Google Intellectus thing the Shards have at play again. Sazed is metaphorically googling "How can Wayne survive?" and the front page answers all require resources that Wayne doesn't have.

@carl11547 5 ай бұрын

You mention Nahel-bonding with a Cognitive Shadow around 1:43:20. We see that in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter. Painter, after the spirits link him to Yumi, actually summons a Shardbrush to combat a Nightmare.

@Purgatory73 5 ай бұрын

I am enjoying this episode very much. Eric sounds so jaded lately. This was refreshing. Let someone who is excited and eager make the content while you can relax and get your mojo back.

@HSuper_Lee 5 ай бұрын

I wonder if a midnight spore-eater would be able to see through midnight essence.

@mckayhuber3420 5 ай бұрын

I think a kandra human hybrid would be similar to Vivena and Siri as descendants of returned that can slightly change their appearance, except I think they would have better control over changing their appearance, but probably be limited to human shape. Maybe they could interact with kandra spikes in some way as well

@ctom42 5 ай бұрын

On the subject of whether a supercharged leecher could kill a spren, I think it's plausible. Just look at what happened to Aux. I know that's not exactly the same and some rules may be being broken there, but it's definitely a spren death that is more based in the power being consumed rather than annihilated by anti-investiture.

@avonzapper 5 ай бұрын

I was thinking about the WoB about changing a shard. I think that if it was possible to change a shard to whatever you want, someone would have done it already. Like, imagine if Odium saw this possiblity and took the chance to turn Devotion, for example, into an intent more similar to Odium so that his original intent wouldn't change too much since we know he's warry of that from some of the interludes. Considering this, changing a shard is either REALLY hard/impractical or it is more like swapping to another facet of the original intent.

@Lightspren 5 ай бұрын

Time lord known as “The Questioner” I love it 😂

@Axartsme 5 ай бұрын

I got the dice display from Dragon Woodshop for my brother's birthday, highly recommend them too.

@enbyglitch 5 ай бұрын

Re: Yolen, I'd guess the fain life and any impacts of the Shattering have kept technology down, but could imagine they have some super unique magic and/or relics of the past there

@sflytal 5 ай бұрын

I want to see a formal debate between Ian and Evgeni…

@Lightspren 5 ай бұрын

Yes PLEASE.

@mndrew1 5 ай бұрын

Re: the burdens of immortality: "The days are long; but the years are short."

@maeveoshkosh 5 ай бұрын

The question about shard gaining knowledge reminds me of metal minds. A keep has access to all the information, but they must pull it from their metal mind.

@Shashamhya 5 ай бұрын

Been really loving watching these, swear ive watched every episode from the past 3 years at least twice

@harveyweir8061 5 ай бұрын

The memory thing feels like a distinction between Shardic knowledge and Vessel knowledge. The concept of Hemalurgy is Shardic knowlesge - it's mechanical. The existence of Hoid is Vessel knowledge - it's historical and personal.

@bjwessels 5 ай бұрын

So, lightweavers have a resonance, or a reverse lashing equivalent, where they can alter their Identity like a forger with a soulstamp. Or at least a lightweaver with additional personalities like Shallan. That's interesting.

@ilregiallo4151 5 ай бұрын

I would compare Shard's knowledge to Destiny from "Sandman". He has all the knowledge of past, present and future, but it is contained in his book. The book is still a part of Destiny, however in order to counsciously know something he has to take it and read the right page. He is not omniscent, however he has access to infinite knowledge.

@Flamminggoat72 5 ай бұрын

I want your Honor blade on my desk by the end of the day! The king is on my ass about this Desolation crap!

@robertpanasuk1156 5 ай бұрын

Unless Brandon said something that changes this in the ars arcanem for The Lost medal it says that if you use Atium as a hemallergic spike it will take all of the subjects powers which means if you use it on hoyd oh boy things could get scary.

@diepie5144 5 ай бұрын

I interpreted the idea that Yolen was behind on technology was because they had access to the Aethers and whatever else powerful magic. IRL technology is developed in response to challenges people faced, bronze and iron working for example allow people to farm far more efficiently through the use of tools made out of such metals. They also provide tangible benefits in combat, allowing for sharper, more durable, and more plentiful (in the case of iron) weapons. But when people look to the magic system instead to solve their problems, when they use magic to plow their fields and when the number and power of aether-wielders singlehandedly decides battles, they're less likely to take risks and put in the generations of effort to make the significant breakthroughs we associate with early civilization since, well, there isn't as much benefit from doing so.

@kristen7623 5 ай бұрын

This was different without Eric’s jovial laughter! Still amazing

@17thShard 5 ай бұрын

@connor_phillipz5689 5 ай бұрын

I'm very proud of myself for guessing Liyun correctly.

@timothyrosenvall1496 5 ай бұрын

Do we know if the story that Nomad told about the Alethi visiting the sun was in reference to Canticle?

@shredder11977 5 ай бұрын

Re: awakening, I feel like it makes more sense to think about it with respect to the shard and the intent it represents. For example the intent of Endowment would make it easy to bestow investiture and spren like awareness. Perhaps whether investiture from another shard is capable of that has to do with how antithetical that is to the shards intent? For example what the Threnodites do might make sense because taking investiture could reflect the pursuit of more power, the desire to ascend or grow, and the competitive or transformative essence that ambition embodies, and giving investiture could reflect the motivational aspects of ambition. They might eventually figure out awakening faster than a shard like Autonomy or Odium for example as their intents seem antithetical to awakening and more prone to corruption??

@Homar30 5 ай бұрын

Those were hard WTCC

@jamesbirkett8364 5 ай бұрын

Yes

@whosiewhatsie 2 ай бұрын

is it possible that leeching a highspren would make you a surgebinder?

@kandkchadwick-fisher3158 5 ай бұрын

What is the bond called when a human bonds a dead shardblade? Is it still a Nahel Bond or is it different due to the spren's dead nature?

@brianpclare 5 ай бұрын

to paraphrase a famous comment about DC comics, Radiant is Shallan during the day and Veil is Shallan at night

@curtiswfranks 5 ай бұрын

/Warbreaker/ is probably the most important book in the Cosmere right now.

@dreamshakejunya 5 ай бұрын

Lol wild right? Warbreaker is the Cosmere’s Age of Ultron

@zendarva 5 ай бұрын

Has anyone ever asked about the concept of using a gemstone as a hemalurgical spike?

@carl11547 5 ай бұрын

In a WOB that wasn't covered by this channel, Brandon mentions using proto-hemalurgy in Way of Kings Prime to bind one of the Unmade (in a room we never enter). In canon, you can only do it with metals, though (as far as we know).