I also think she had severe post partum depression with Camille that never got addressed or regarded on top of that as well

Huh that kina shed a new light on what I thought about the condition. I thought she only didnt like camille because she didnt let her take care of her which fulfills her desire of feeling like the adoring caring mother. But I guess she gets sympathy from a "difficult child" as well which she must enjoy too

Yes the emotional abuse supplies her sadistic personality disorder. discussion about this difficult topic. There is a lot of research done on scapegoating mechanisms but there is little one can do to prevent it from happening. I do believe making victims aware that there is nothing wrong with them as helpful. Unfortunately scapegoating is often a way for families or communities to hide problems that they feel cannot face. In adulthood, scapegoating became a way for adult children to hide the fact of family history of abuse by blaming everything on one member who seemed vulnerable for attack (and/or talks about it). Often the scapegoat is targeted by the siblings who were treated more favorably. In that way, the less favored sibling(s) becomes the punchingbag for everything that is wrong in the family. Family therapy can help but only rarely are the culprits and less affected family members willing to take part. So my hope in future such tv shows focus would be on empowering the scapegoat(s).

@@umchinagirard1800 Wow thank you for sharing. My first time reading about this

Depression doesn't make you kill your child. She was always rotten, always a narcissist

She’s a Queen sadistic narcissist sociopath in a narcissist community yuck! discussion about this difficult topic. There is a lot of research done on scapegoating mechanisms but there is little one can do to prevent it from happening. I do believe making victims aware that there is nothing wrong with them as helpful. Unfortunately scapegoating is often a way for families or communities to hide problems that they feel cannot face. In adulthood, scapegoating became a way for adult children to hide the fact of family history of abuse by blaming everything on one member who seemed vulnerable for attack (and/or talks about it). Often the scapegoat is targeted by the siblings who were treated more favorably. In that way, the less favored sibling(s) becomes the punchingbag for everything that is wrong in the family. Family therapy can help but only rarely are the culprits and less affected family members willing to take part. So my focus would be on empowering the scapegoat(s).

Yes no biggie for Adora, she loves to hurt Camille ... 💔

The only thing I was disappointed about in the series

Perhaps Adora knows this hurts Camille and she’s getting narcissistic sadistic supply... discussion about this difficult topic. There is a lot of research done on scapegoating mechanisms but there is little one can do to prevent it from happening. I do believe making victims aware that there is nothing wrong with them as helpful. Unfortunately scapegoating is often a way for families or communities to hide problems that they feel cannot face. In adulthood, scapegoating became a way for adult children to hide the fact of family history of abuse by blaming everything on one member who seemed vulnerable for attack (and/or talks about it). Often the scapegoat is targeted by the siblings who were treated more favorably. In that way, the less favored sibling(s) becomes the punchingbag for everything that is wrong in the family. Family therapy can help but only rarely are the culprits and less affected family members willing to take part. So my focus would be on empowering the scapegoat(s).

No, she knows exactly what she is doing. She wants to hurt Camille so that Camille will "need" her to "make it better."

@Benziar Fadel I dont know what they considered flaws but I read the book, too and saw the series, maybe I can give an answer as well. First off, I consider this one of the best things I watched, series and films combined. The pace, the editing, to me it was all outstanding. I read the book years ago and it has become one of my favorites, so the stake was high but it went beyond it, I love it just as much as the book in a different way. Now on the actual points lol. My main flaw was that the ending in the series felt rushed. In the book, it felt right and organic and cathartic and it was one of the best moments. In the series it felt like 5 minutes that didnt do the book justice at all. It felt like "they had to wrap it up" and it wasnt focused on Camilles recovery/future at all, in the book it felt more "hopeful". And the second flaw in my eyes was that Alan wasnt as described at all - this tall and skinny person who was in a way just a shadow of Adora, it felt like they just took a random guy who didnt embody the vibe i got from Alan in the book at all. My opinion. Maybe you watched by now, hope you liked it if you did :)

A true cunt. Respect. Tv needs more true evil cunts, women who aren't victims of anyone.

The dressing room scene when she asked if it was over?. camille said yes and she almost looked happy that her mom cared about her but then Adota told her it was too late that she was ruined... 😥 that was incredible horrible!!

Millions of women kill their children before they are even born because they dont wanna take responsibility for their own actions and the new soul they took part in creating.

My mom still sadistic manipulative sociopath but still uses gaslighting language “I care love you too much” etc ... yes weird Adora admits this... discussion about this difficult topic. There is a lot of research done on scapegoating mechanisms but there is little one can do to prevent it from happening. I do believe making victims aware that there is nothing wrong with them as helpful. Unfortunately scapegoating is often a way for families or communities to hide problems that they feel cannot face. In adulthood, scapegoating became a way for adult children to hide the fact of family history of abuse by blaming everything on one member who seemed vulnerable for attack (and/or talks about it). Often the scapegoat is targeted by the siblings who were treated more favorably. In that way, the less favored sibling(s) becomes the punchingbag for everything that is wrong in the family. Family therapy can help but only rarely are the culprits and less affected family members willing to take part. So my focus would be on empowering the scapegoat(s).

LMAO what? hahahaha that's being a fucking psycho not "strong"

@@g0blinfractal472 Facing your daughter and being honest... hurting her upfront not behind her back.... Thats not really something mothers do.

@@yesboyjay it's still awful to say that to another person lol

@@rorironan4840 Yes, of course it is. I'm just pointing out it took strength.

Yes. Yes she did. 😔

No. She never loved. She can't love anyone but herself. The point of this show is that women hardly take the responsability of what they'd done when they do something evil, and society doesn't helps them do that. Even here there's people saying that Adora did this cause she had post partum something, or it was somehow trauma cause by her ex husband, or someone else. This is a rare case in fiction when the men aren't responsible of anything and it's all the women's doing. The women in town are the one saying that John Keene must be the killer because he cried at gis sister's funeral and "men aren't supposed to cry" which makes him a weirdo and therefore in their toxic twisted logic, a serial killer. Camille's father left cause he realized how fucked up Adora was and she was the one with the power in town so he couldn't do anything regarding his daughters, yet she blames him and excuses herself. The Wind Gap society is a matriarchy when women have all the control and men are essentially useless.

@@Ronkyort0dox now you know damn well that's not anywhere close to what the story is actually trying to portray

@@Ronkyort0dox all the people who agreed with your freaky Men’s Rights Activist comment are going directly to hell wtf lol you know damn well the point of the show is not “women are evil and men are innocent” LOLLLL

@@Ronkyort0dox 😂😂

@@Ronkyort0doxyeah same thing in Indian culture… it’s a “patriarchy” on paper, but much of the abuse gets passed through the female lineage and the dudes all become these oblivious engineers and business people while the women, even when they have a profession, are just vessels or maybe receptacles is a better word, to hold and receive all the family shit, and until they have a daughter of their own they can’t diffuse it…… What a disgusting cycle