mind you, far cheaper to emulate on a pc etc

​@@ArcadeCabNBud This is true. But I can't use some of my vintage devices with my PC. Floppy drives, controllers, etc. If you just want to play games on your desk, the Mister is overkill, like a lot.

The MiSTer project IS pretty awesome. I spent way too much money on it but man its worth it IMO. Im on this thing more than my PS5.

LMFAO these games and systems have been emulated for years on various platforms.... You been under a rcok for the last twenty years

@@rgm4646 so "awesome" can do cores for full pc systems and consoles yet can't do a multi platform arcade ones why is that???? oh it's for the core dev's to milk it for money per system! ;)

Awesome, I'd love to have the real hardware someday. Guess I better start watching yahoo auctions .jp more closely :) Same here. Things have come a long way but lots left to be done. Hopefully some day!

I'm glad someone else spotted the let's fighting love reference

Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed it!

Glad it was helpful and good luck trying it out yourself!

Nope, its the X68K VDP chipset what Atari should have licensed, which is made by Ricoh and planned/engineered by Hudson, the same guys behind the PC Engine.

So you think it's a good idea to give the Japanese this technology, then pay them royalties to use the system they copied off you to make a new system for yourself. And people wonder why Nintendo and Sega took over the American console market.

Glad it was useful!

It is a great project that's under constant development! If you're interested, check out my MiSTer FPGA playlist here that starts with what it is and how to build it and then goes into things like MIDI add-ons, etc.: kzfaq.info/sun/PLAFTE1bkmSE112rD2Wr_6leUeR9CYgZLV

re: OS9, do you know it was made to run on the Super PET? Very cool.

Haha yea, I was way into gaming through the 80's and 90's so the big name arcade games I knew about, but there are so many regional titles on this system that it's fun just to load things up and see what the heck they are. In my research, I did see that there was a 6809-powered Super PET that ran OS9! I need to do a deeper look into it and see what it was actually used for and get it up and running in multiuser on my CoCo3. Add it to the project queue!

Ugh, yea I hear you! Best of luck to everyone trying to find inventory!

Hah you're the second person to say that. The first time I had to look up who that was. Then I watched all his videos :)

Haha, thanks :) The first level is always easy - after that I fall apart pretty fast. Cho Ren Sha 68k in particular goes from mild to extreme by level 2 :P

Glad you enjoyed it and welcome! I tried both the HDF and floppy versions of the game and neither persisted my current level after saving either.

@@retrobitstv Indeed it seems the game save is part of the rom and it is in read only. I still had hope I was doing something wrong until your video where you clarified what the sram save and load were for. I wrongly assumed they were for the games sram rather than the core. Hopefully we will get a way to save our progress as the core evolves 🙂

I played through level 3 last night, it is really a great one! I also tried to get past level 2 in Daimakaimura yesterday and had to give up after the 8th continue or so :P Still too hard!

@@retrobitstv Haha yes it's incredibly hard! I died countless times on Twinbee but the music is so good! I have to do a playthrough of Daima next

Yea, let's hope there are more updates! Last time I looked, Puu-san had turned his attention to the FM Towns core so we might have to wait a while, but hey, another core to play with someday!

@@retrobitstv ooooh fm towns!! Scavenger 4, Microcosm, Splatterhouse and many others…yummy!😎🙌

@@retrobitstv FM Towns core coming ?! Holy shit ! 💥 It sure feels good to be a Mister owner 👍

Surprisingly, a lot has been written about the game. Coding was a single developer and music was a separate composer! According to what's out there, the music tracks were written in a matter of several days each.

@@retrobitstv Very impressive. I may need to check more into that game. I have always been fascinated by the Sharp X68000 & have been trying to find one for a reasonable price for years. Unfortunately it looks like the opportunity for that has passed as they are stupid expensive now. The markup by sellers exporting them is huge.

IC what you did there :P

Unfortunately I was really only able to test things that didn't require me to read Japanese characters. There are a LOT of visual novel type games and a few RPGs that I couldn't really try out. And then there are a lot of shooters. There are a lot of titles I didn't explore either - if you're interested you can browse almost 500 of them here: www.mobygames.com/browse/games/sharp-x68000/

To be fair, that's less in inflation adjusted dollars than the original owner had to pay for it (nearly $6k in today's dollars). Still, that high price means there aren't really a ton of them to go around, so I'm glad we have both software emulation and MiSTer as an option.

Thanks! I want to say that it does - I have the OSD video mode overlay turned on and I definitely see 15, 33, and 34 KHz modes being used on the analog out when I have the scaler disabled.

Ah bummer, too bad it didn't work. Failed power supplies are pretty much the Achilles heel of the thing these days. They are worth a good chunk of change on eBay.

@retrobits no it powers on when I tested last week but I can't get it out of Japanese. If I load disks it loads just fine and plays I'm trying google translate but it's Kanji and its hard to work with. Need a video that shows exactly how to change language step by step so I can get it in English. Got a hitbit Sony msx but I'm keeping that for the original releases to my favorite nes titles

The 68000 FGPA implementation has been around for a long time, predating the MiSTer project. It's used in many computer, game console, and arcade cores, some of which have been specifically benchmarked and tuned against real hardware with expensive test rigs (e.g. CPS1/2). One thing I've observed about FPGA development in general is that it has started with the simplest and working towards the more complex, building off each prior step along the way. CPU, sound device, etc. reuse has been a big part of that. Now we're starting to see the limits of the DE-10 nano's hardware really being tested with the Playstation and Saturn cores, something that was thought to be impossible early on.

I tried it out and unfortunately it locks up whenever external MIDI is enabled :( Otherwise the game plays great with internal sound.

@@retrobitstv Thanks! Same here. FWIW, internal sound is not right in the game either; also, you can activate better PCM sound when using "Turbo" mode however still doesn't sound quite right.

There are utilities out there to create the HDF file but I found it was just as easy to take an existing game .HDF, boot to the Human68k floppy, and use the format tool to make an empty bootable image I could then install whatever I wanted into. In the description, there's a link to a page that walks through how to use format if, like me, you can't read the Kanji.

The d88 collection was sorted by genre/alphabetically already. Unfortunately, I downloaded that collection quite some time ago and don't remember from where and it's not in my browser history. It isn't as complete as some of the other collections from Internet Archive, but the sorting by genre is useful. Sorry that's not much help :(

@@retrobitstv All good, thanks for the reply. I'll snoop around more and see what I can find. The sorted game packs have been such a savior on my mister.

I got them from here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b8CAY6yS3L2Yp4k.html&ab_channel=Pezz82

@@MatthewDaviesParker Could you find them? I'm dying to try that Sound Pro-68K sound editor.

You can force the core to 240P through mister.ini settings, but I didn't see any such settings in the MiSTer's core menu. The switch command has a setting for TV_CTRL, but my best guess is that determines the behavior of the display when the main unit is powered off. LCD_Mode changes the character set. Check out the video description for a sample forced 240p configuration.

Cool! I haven't tried emulating it on my Pi 400, but I have on my PC and it works flawlessly there. The MiSTer core has a way to go before I would consider it feature-complete but I hope it gets there some day.

Hrm, I can't think of any reason that'd be the case since the hardware and software are identical. Off the top of my head I would suggest trying a different sdcard and see if that improves things.

It is possible, you just need vga_scaler and a 240p video mode. Many have done the same with the DOS core (ao486)

@@FoxbatStargazer do you mean a downsclaler? Right now I have a vga to component cable hooked up to the analog board on my MiSTer but I don't have an ossc or anything like that. I do have an old pc crt monitor I could use but I was hoping to hook it up to my 36 inch sd tv.

@@riggel8804 He means the ini file settings described in the description above - just define a 240p video mode

@@Faginrs500 okay got it. Thanks. I messed around with those settings a couple days back to output 240p with scandoubling to my pc crt. Pretty sure I can figure out the sharp video settings as long as it's possible.

The scaler settings (copy/paste from description) should get you 240p to a standard def CRT from the core but no guarantees if the 31khz video modes will be very legible!

I'm absolutely sure it is technically possible. I'm not at all involved with the Mega65 so I don't know if there's currently the will to port it to the MiSTer or not. I suspect their primary focus is to get other cores running on the Mega65 hardware. Someone who's closer to the project probably has a better answer though!

It didn't sell well enough to support that move. The amount of work to create multiple languages and even support in other languages is a huge cost.

@@JustinEmlay Thanks for your input! My guess would be, that you would have just needed to translate it to english... and it would have sold in enourmous numbers in europe and the US. Way better than the amiga.

It didn't make sense at the price point. For $2500 in Japan in 1987 it was a compelling option. However by 1988, IBM PC clones could have access to comparable sound via the AdLib, higher resolution graphics with more color via SVGA, and the 386DX was selling for less than $400. All this meant you could build a PC-compatible that could theoretically compete with the x68000 for around half the price. Games weren't immediately taking advantage of this stuff obviously, but by 1990 most PC games on a PC built in 1988 would look better than stuff on the x68000 outside of the x68000's native arcade-style games. PC gamers were generally far more interested in RPGs, sim games, and adventure games than arcade-style games though. The biggest elephant in the room however would have been application support. Even in Japan, the x68000 struggled to compete in its price category because it wasn't MS-DOS based. NEC's PC-98 series wasn't strictly IBM PC-compatible but it ran a modified version of MS-DOS and a lot of regular MS-DOS applications had been ported to it, giving it a massive leg up over the x68000 in Japan. In the US, there was really no hope - at $2500, people were going to expect a PC to be able to run serious shit like Lotus 1-2-3 or Borland tools. And in Europe, it was simply too expensive - the Amiga 500 cost only around $700 and could do most of the stuff the x68000 could at less than a third of the price. tl;dr the market for the x68000 was relatively small in Japan and basically nonexistent elsewhere.

@@Longlius Well, I wouldn't agree.. Games: Resolution isn't the only thing... e.g. SVGA misses Sprites, so fast-paced arcade games aren't too easy on an 80386. Application support could have been an issue... But OS9 was a solution. It would have been interesting to see this product.

​@@suchaluch5615 OS-9 was never going to a solution for application support because people already owned or used MS-DOS software and OS-9 could not run that software.

@First Plays Both the Megadrive and the SNES were superior to the Amiga, but I wouldn't call the Amiga trash compared to them. The Amiga was 1982 tech, let's not forget that.

it wasn't that good in 2D either, maybe in 1987 when it was released, but the time they started porting games over from Konami, CPS, Neogeo arcade boards circa 1990 and onwards) is when you start to see the hardware shortcomings.

I noticed that as well but I didn't look into how to disable that behavior by default. If you want, you can unmount the current .vhd by going into the selection dialogue and hitting the backspace key.

Huh, that is really odd. There are no special setup requirements except having the boot.rom and boot3.vfd files in the right place. I assume you've run the updater and got the latest RBF file? You can verify, it should be X68000_20220214.rbf on your sdcard.

@@retrobitstv Yup, I have confirmed that I have that exact same file. I've watched a few tutorials and I cant find what Im missing. Im able to bring up the OSD during the blank screen, so I know the Mister hasnt crash.

As far as I can tell, special keys are not remap-able at this time. Hopefully in a future release!

I ended up using the Google Translate app a lot to take photos of the screen and selecting the characters I wanted to read :)

I'd have a look at this video and maybe check out the SD Card 2 link in the description ;) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b8CAY6yS3L2Yp4k.html

There are over 130 visual novels for the system listed on Wikipedia but those are only the commercially published ones, not the independently released titles.

Many of the game titles have been ported to .HDF images which boot soooo much faster!

@@retrobitstv oooh, ill have to look into that! has any scaling been fixed or anything yet?

That's the way to go, the games just load when they're picked and if there's problems just hit reset in core menu

I haven't tried myself. Munt is capable of emulating a CM-64, but I do not thing that mt32-pi currently supports this configuration. I assume if you connected a real CM-64 to the MiSTer with a MiSTer MIDI, UM-One, or equivalent it would work just fine with the X68000 core.

@@retrobitstv thank you for the information. Phalanx best music version is the CM-64 one.

or .... what?

The system boots in 31Khz mode so if you're using a 240p display, you'll need to use the VGA scaler to force a 15Khz mode.

ya i tried flipping back and forth from 31khz mode within the core settings i think its my adapter tbh some cores hate s-video 🥹

grow up manchild

Thanks for the tip; I tried 91 but it still had the same issues on my MiSTer. I haven't tried it with analog out, only the HDMI scaler.