SharpshootingUK discuss anti-cant bubbles from Holland, Vortex etc

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Richard Utting

Richard Utting

Күн бұрын

SharpshootingUK discuss the importance of removing cant from your scope and compare various products for doing so. Including the Vortex bubble, the Holland Signature Series, Hawke rail bubble Did this help you out & you'd like to return the favour? / sharpshootinguk

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@chemistry4425
@chemistry4425 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for simply explaining cant..& did it in one sentence! I found more helpful info in this video then I have 20+ from others & some where reputable businesses
@RichardUttingSharpshootingUK
@RichardUttingSharpshootingUK 10 жыл бұрын
Great news thanks :)
@Xphelon
@Xphelon 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely awesome information my man.....Clear concise....
@tom_olofsson
@tom_olofsson 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Thank you for this clear explanation.
@roddy123ishable
@roddy123ishable 12 жыл бұрын
Very nice!!! Sounds perfect! Will be looking forward to check it out as soon as it comes out. Cheers
@Aedob4
@Aedob4 10 жыл бұрын
Good post! I find rifle leveling more dificult then scope leveling!
@royjennison3916
@royjennison3916 7 жыл бұрын
wow , never thought of that , thanks for all the info richard
@mainenorthwoodshunter3265
@mainenorthwoodshunter3265 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you. Good Shooting!
@buckybuttface7401
@buckybuttface7401 10 жыл бұрын
You have an English accent, so I believe you.
@Fister_of_Muppets
@Fister_of_Muppets 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing lol
@kgkg6649
@kgkg6649 3 жыл бұрын
Yes its instant credibility!
@tom_olofsson
@tom_olofsson 3 жыл бұрын
He would only be more believable if he had an Ausie accent.
@RichardUttingSharpshootingUK
@RichardUttingSharpshootingUK 10 жыл бұрын
Yes Craig. I do prefer to level the scope and then when the scope-mounted bubble is done up tight that is that. You can remove the scope, swap it around - it doesn't matter as from that moment on when that bubble is level, the ret is level to the world, and that's what matters! Bubbles in mounts and rings only show you the rifle is level, which is not the point at all
@1BeGe
@1BeGe 3 жыл бұрын
"only shows you the rifle is level" If the rifle being level isn't the same thing as the scope being level then you already screwed up your scope mounting long before you even took the shot.
@grendelspec9857
@grendelspec9857 Жыл бұрын
Why would you want cant in your scope though? Is it because the scope's elevation tracking isn't straight? You keep mentioning the reticle, but if your reticle is not aligned with your scope body, then you have to return that scope. It means you have a crooked reticle and no matter what, no level is going to help you out with that problem because the body is what the tracking aligns with, not the crooked reticle
@t77snapshot
@t77snapshot 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative and straight to the point, thank you. (Like #100 :)
@mandh14
@mandh14 6 жыл бұрын
Bloody good info!!!
@ericb.4358
@ericb.4358 5 жыл бұрын
I'm using Talley lightweight alloy rings on my 6.5 CM Browning X-Bolt Pro mountain rifle. I compete with a 6.5 CM Ruger Precision Rifle with a Vortex scope mounted level (shown above). That's why I am putting Talley's TOP RING LEVEL on my X-Bolt. Integrating a level into the top half of a scope ring is a clever way of mounting a bubble level. It both saves weight, puts the level right where you need it and makes the level less obtrusive. It is likely the mechanically strongest rifle bubble level. BUT, tightening the 4 ring screws must be done very slowly and carefully in a criss-cross pattern to ensure the level remains level. And when doing the final tightening to 20 inch-pounds with a torque wench the 4 screws must all be very close to 20 in.-lbs. before final torquing. Did I mention to do this tightening very slowly? I live and hunt in Nevada and sometimes shoot at long ranges. After competing in long range shooting I more acutely feel the need for a level. A bit of cant at 600 yards/meters is a fairly large windage miss. IF you correct for wind when the miss is really due to your own cant you are usually compounding your error. COOL FACTOR-> My X-Bolt Pro comes with bronze Cerakote on the barreled action (& carbon fiber stock) and luckily Talley makes the X-Bolt rings in matching bronze, as well as the top ring level. "Matchy-matchy" ya know. ;o)
@joeallison286
@joeallison286 7 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual Richard...I have just bought an I.O.R with the 35 mill tube as you are well aware the turrets are wide on the I.O.R my question is using the vortex level can you see the bubble ok past the big turrets if fitted at the front of the forward ring ?? thanks Richard
@craigmelchiano72
@craigmelchiano72 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you! I was going to get the one NIGHTFORCE makes since I have a NIGHTFORCE A.T.A.C.R. but it is a part of the ring, which means it's really only telling me that the rifle is level right?
@whomagoose6897
@whomagoose6897 10 ай бұрын
Accuracy 1st Company in America has a unique level. No liquid or bubble. There is a curved glass tube with hash marks. These hash marks show a specific decemal MOA amount. Not only can you level the rifle. You can actually determine the amount of cant to get the offset of your barrel to overcome the spindrift for faster shots. The glass tube is U shaped so the ceramic ball will go opposite of a bubble.
@hiker2327
@hiker2327 9 жыл бұрын
Using a plumb line to calibrate the level - well done...
@hiker2327
@hiker2327 8 жыл бұрын
A weighted object attached to a string... You can Google it and look at the pictures...
@roddy123ishable
@roddy123ishable 12 жыл бұрын
Really nice videos you've got there mate. Where did you get your Vortex anti-cant device? Have been looking for one like that to fit my setup but no luck besides the very expensive £75 Nightforce ones from Sportsmans. I hope you'll bring some more LR tips, I have been shooting this year LR shooting with a custom Rem 22-250 and I am always checking for some vids! Also after watching your review on the Atlas Bipod, you have convince me to replace my BR Harris. Really awesome choice!!!
@GetMeThere1
@GetMeThere1 10 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. I think a lot of people who use levels don't fully comprehend the situation. When you talked about a plumb line in the distance (a piece of chain hanging is actually the perfect method), I knew you understood: ONLY the vertical crosshair needs to be plumb--and the level is used simply to signal that condition. The position of the rifle doesn't matter.
@RMC2021
@RMC2021 9 жыл бұрын
Everything you said makes perfect sense. My question is this.... I leveled my scope to my rifle with the Wheeler scope leveling kit. This ensures that my reticle is perfectly level with my bore. That being the case, If I were to install a rail mounted anti-cant device, wouldn't that ensure that since my rifle is level, my reticle is to?
@judgegarry
@judgegarry 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Caiati Your bore is round...
@RMC2021
@RMC2021 8 жыл бұрын
Yes it is... I understand your point. If everyone just insisted that the bore was round and there is no way to level to the bore, than why would anyone bother trying to "level" a scope... There are a million ways to decipher this argument. My point was this - If I verified that my table was perfectly level (both ways), leveled my rifle vice to the table in the same fashion, and leveled the rifle to the vice in the same fashion, so on and so forth with my rail and scope - wouldn't my rail mounted anti cant device show up level when it is actually level?
@judgegarry
@judgegarry 8 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if your table or vise or house are level/plumb.. The only thing that needs to be done for sure is to level your action in a vise, scope rings can't always be trusted to be true to the action unless you level them to the action. Then hang a weight on a line and adjust your vertical reticle to it. Then set your anti-cant. Cross-torque SCOPE screws to 18 in lb, recheck. ( Yes, use a torque driver). Fire some down range and keep re-torquing until the rings/scope seat and stay tight...Slow and methodical beats confused and cock-eyed.. .... ;) Happy X rings Dude... Judge
@jamesdahl3885
@jamesdahl3885 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Caiat
@akuiori
@akuiori 3 жыл бұрын
So why do you prefer to cant your rifle scope? What if any advantage is gained by this, it seems counter intuitive to leveling the rifle?
@OrganikSecrets
@OrganikSecrets 6 жыл бұрын
You say if you use a rail bubble, your rifle could be level but your scope could not be. But if you mount the scope correctly from the beginning by leveling the rifle and scope with 2 levels at the same time and/or plumb line. Then mount the rail bubble and check its accuracy against the plumb line. Then you should be good right?
@j.rob.5943
@j.rob.5943 6 жыл бұрын
OrganikSecrets yes, but you’d have to repeat the process if you move the scope to another rifle. If the level is mounted on the scope that’s not necessary!
@rgthomson100
@rgthomson100 6 жыл бұрын
Never used a plumb line before, just used the neibours window frames. Hope the joiner put them in plumb.?
@j.rob.5943
@j.rob.5943 6 жыл бұрын
Rob Thomson nice...did your neighbors piss their pants when you pointed your rifle at them?
@rgthomson100
@rgthomson100 6 жыл бұрын
Always one who falls for it ha ha
@rgthomson100
@rgthomson100 6 жыл бұрын
I apologise to anyone who did not take this in the light hearted manner in which it was meant, NEVER point a gun at anything you dont intend to shoot.
@sudo_nym
@sudo_nym 5 жыл бұрын
Better off using the work of a plumber :-D
@AndreasNkleby
@AndreasNkleby 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old vid, but I’m scrolling through whilst waiting for new ones; How can it be ok to cant the rifle relative to the scope? Extreme case being, if you cant your rifle 45 degrees, and level your scope, you’re still dialling sideways?
@flyingtigers7856
@flyingtigers7856 4 жыл бұрын
if your rifle is at 45, but you have leveled your scope and reticle with a plumb line, you are not dialing sideways. You have to consistently hold your rifle at 45 for this "extreme case" to work.
@msitler1104
@msitler1104 2 жыл бұрын
maybe I'm an idiot here....but mounting the scope to be level...and the gun at a cant...won't it cause the bullet to towards the direction its cantd towards...it wud cause you to have to adjust windage as well as elevation as you adjust it for a different distance. I just don't get y u wud make it tougher to make adjustments instead of adjusting the stock pad to be canted to fit your body better
@Mr42960
@Mr42960 9 жыл бұрын
How are you liking your Atlas bipod?
@RichardUttingSharpshootingUK
@RichardUttingSharpshootingUK 9 жыл бұрын
Mr42960 It's proven to be a great product. I very much like the leg extensions. And the cleat feet. Yep, it's outstanding
@rustystrat50
@rustystrat50 4 жыл бұрын
Never say never so I'll cant.
@Guide504
@Guide504 3 жыл бұрын
what do you do when the ret element is not set perpendicular to the turret axis.
@jamesglenn520
@jamesglenn520 3 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to it not being right at all like broken inside or it not tracking correctly when you crank it up-down and side to side?
@jamesglenn520
@jamesglenn520 3 жыл бұрын
What brand and model of scope?
@Guide504
@Guide504 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesglenn520 leupold vx3, the ret was not aligned with the turret axis so the bdc tracked diagonally when the ret was upright and the turrets were pissed.
@jamesglenn520
@jamesglenn520 3 жыл бұрын
@@Guide504 Have you tried to get it replaced? If your looking for an affordable quality long-range scope you should check out the Riton 6-24×50Ri it's a FFP and lighted reticle. I have had one on my RPR Gen2 308 for almost 2 years and just bought another for my RP Rimfire. I paid $499.00 they are Vetran made in the 🇺🇸 and have quality Japanese glass.
@Guide504
@Guide504 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesglenn520 cheers James, interesting glass. Stay well for 2021.
@bigal7561
@bigal7561 3 жыл бұрын
Great. Teaching that the bubbles are for using true but then say you, as a great shooter, cants the scope to the left. That's going to confuse the crap out of new shooters.
@blackphosphor
@blackphosphor 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool info and knowledgeable. I wish you were my best friend. No homo.
@RichardUttingSharpshootingUK
@RichardUttingSharpshootingUK 9 жыл бұрын
blackphosphor lmao cool :D
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