She's not as fun as I hoped | Clorinde Post-Release Analysis

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Zajef77

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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:12 5 N3E
1:03 Self-healing
2:38 Healing bonus on Clorinde
3:30 About her teams and the Qiqi team
9:14 Burning set
10:16 TF in multi wave content
12:27 Weapons
13:29 Artifact sets
13:42 Teams
14:59 Closing thoughts
16:18 Outro

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@Zajef77
@Zajef77 15 күн бұрын
Just want to add that apparently some of her default combos aren't doable on high ping... Aware. Just be warned that might be a thing and make sure you check if the combos work for you in the test run!
@Mo_Shadows
@Mo_Shadows 13 күн бұрын
Yeah on 200ms her default combo is very inconsistent. You have to do 4NA to reliably do Impale the Night which really sucks
@mike81356
@mike81356 16 күн бұрын
Zajeff likes a unit -> They’re mid to bad Zajeff dislikes a unit -> They’re amazing
@YourXLNC
@YourXLNC 16 күн бұрын
The trend continues with Emilie. She got buffed after Zajef found her kit boring.
@kamilkarwowski5579
@kamilkarwowski5579 16 күн бұрын
He didnt hate Neuvillete tho
@aryune
@aryune 16 күн бұрын
Arlecchino though
@kasumi9873
@kasumi9873 16 күн бұрын
Some bad units have intresting concepts in their kits(Dehya kit fits her personality quite well)
@Ivy-jq6di
@Ivy-jq6di 16 күн бұрын
@@kamilkarwowski5579 Neuv got the god treatment because he's a sovereign so he's as immune to bad kits as the archons
@andersnfabiano
@andersnfabiano 16 күн бұрын
Ngl nerfing her uptime made her so tough to play sometimes. It can't be extended by hitlag, and she can still be affected by elemental reactions that slow her down. And God forbids a hilichurl sneezes on the other side of the abyss chamber, since she has zero resistance to interruption. Even if you wanna be a badass and play without a shield, dodging once already feels like you're cutting your uptime in half. I have a lot of fun with her, but she does suffers from a lot of issues that Yoimiya did, for example (who's my other fave 💀).
@martir851
@martir851 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, the uptime nerf made me skip her mostly
@Sickness4daThickness
@Sickness4daThickness 16 күн бұрын
That was precisely what killed the deal for me, after 2 of the best (if not the best) non-burst reliant characters in the game, getting a character tied so hard to her skill uptime and CD felt awful.
@MrMichelangelo
@MrMichelangelo 15 күн бұрын
Ppl keep forgetting sbout Zhongli existence and his universal debuff of -20% RES. Yeah, VV lowers RES even more but you cannot swirl dendro in quicken teams. So, with Zhongli you get stun resistance whenever you make a usual combo AND your dendro support (in my case it's Nahida) deals even more dmg
@lafeechloe6998
@lafeechloe6998 15 күн бұрын
@@MrMichelangelo Zhongli is a ton less damages than Kazuha or Beidou. Like, i have a reeally good investment on her but if i swap to Zhongli i can't clear 12-1 anymore because of the lack of damages
@MrMichelangelo
@MrMichelangelo 15 күн бұрын
@@lafeechloe6998 one cannot deal tons of damage whilst being stunned. You trade some pros of VV shred for other pros of strongest shielding character in the game. Speedrunning is important just in the Spiral Abyss, more often you need survivability/stun resistance
@christophermauro-barias7451
@christophermauro-barias7451 16 күн бұрын
that cool down nerf on her skill really hurt her
@timogul
@timogul 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, the worst thing about her is how you have to just spamspamspam her abilities as fast as possible to make the most of that short term buff. If it had relatively 100% uptime then she would be much more cozy to play and you could just relax and enjoy it.
@FirstNigerianprince
@FirstNigerianprince 16 күн бұрын
​@@timogulit's literally just 1.5 seconds.
@episode4882
@episode4882 16 күн бұрын
@@FirstNigerianprincethat 1.5 sec allows her to do an exte 3NA1E or helps high ping players to achieve 6 times 3NA1E Being able to use her longer on field also mean her lack of interruption becomes less ‘apparent’, imagine playing her where optimal dmg requires 3NA beforehand, only 7.5sec dps window and no interruption resistance, surely this will be fun
@None38389
@None38389 16 күн бұрын
Just use TF, whimsey is not worth it. Especially not worth it if they are going to keep making multiwave content in abyss.
@ziekfriedvonfinkenstein7290
@ziekfriedvonfinkenstein7290 16 күн бұрын
Hmm I think it’s not a big deal in the context of clorinde / Fischl short rots. She clears waves in each short rot and has to reapply nahida etc. on boss fights she’s clearing maguu in 35s including his 10s time waste which means 25s aka 2 short rots. So the change isn’t impactful at all there. Idk about OL comps where Fischl is less important dmg share wise. I don’t play OL comps with her.
@kamia5973
@kamia5973 16 күн бұрын
A bit of a side note from a controller player with default button layout. You can’t move camera around during the charge attack because your thumb is occupied. Meaning you can’t see shits most of the time unless you’re a claw grip pro or are willing to change button mapping and rewrite your years of muscle memory. This is not the case with bow characters or Neuvillete because the game alternatively let you charge attack with left trigger button. If anyone else see this, consider that. But if you already pulled her, help me put that into survey. She really needs to be able to charge attack with different button.
@jaguh9069
@jaguh9069 16 күн бұрын
Charged attack? Why would you wanna CA with her? Her combo is EE N3E 😅 I already remap control layout since the beginning, NA to RT & skill to RB.
@mmmkay2457
@mmmkay2457 16 күн бұрын
@@jaguh9069 I have the same question as well, but I think they mean her E during her skill duration? Hopefully.
@jaguh9069
@jaguh9069 16 күн бұрын
@@mmmkay2457 Oh that made sense 😂
@venexo1434
@venexo1434 15 күн бұрын
Claw Grip Pro? You don’t need to be that good at it. Also coming from someone who can play claw its not that hard to get used to. Especially for a very non demanding game like GI
@unaffectedbycardeffects9152
@unaffectedbycardeffects9152 15 күн бұрын
Just fight orphan of kos. You'll get goood at claw grip in no time
@ellenaga
@ellenaga 16 күн бұрын
*sees Kazuha wielding Festering Desire* _what is THAT?_ *immediately looks at chat and sees "festering kazuha"* made me laugh
@ginichimaruan3572
@ginichimaruan3572 15 күн бұрын
probably exchanging weapons with Furina to fav
@wideozludrawz
@wideozludrawz 15 күн бұрын
Gearing moment
@user-xf4vx4rt3h
@user-xf4vx4rt3h 15 күн бұрын
pure guide, pure analysis, no streamer drama crap Zajef77 numbah 1
@KingofBlah37
@KingofBlah37 15 күн бұрын
As you say, whether she's fun or not is entirely subjective. I very much enjoy the fast and furious playstyle, blasting and jetting around the battlefield. I also like how the gun will actually aim upwards to shoot flying enemies, even if she can't crit the flying ruin enemies to knock them out of the sky. You can also play around her range to wait out an enemy attack while still doing damage from afar, or cut your 3-shot sequence short to zip through an enemy and then finish your sequence once you're behind them and out of danger. I can also see how others would find her repetitive, and sometimes frustrating due to her uptime. Getting interrupted during her Skill is pretty devastating to her DPS. And no, she doesn't compete with the top-tier teams, but she's more than good enough. For me, she's a better Keqing. Not in terms of her damage output, it's about the same. It's her range, movement, and self-healing that makes her stand out. I always wanted to enjoy Keqing, but the short range on her normals and the backwards movement in her CA always annoyed me. Do I wish they hadn't nerfed her Skill duration? Of course, it's pretty bullshit that they did it, but it didn't kill the character.
@hlanden3806
@hlanden3806 16 күн бұрын
I didn't know if I'd enjoy her, didn't know much about her kit but I liked the design, so I pulled. Ended up having a blast, probably the most fun I've had since Navia. But as you said that is subjective. As far as power level goes, she can range from very underwhelming when played sub-optimally to very much balanced overall. And in perfect case scenarios her ceiling can be as high as my Arlecchino in AOE (both are C0 with 5* weapons). I like that personally, because it pushes me to improve my gameplay. Not every unit needs to be as simple to play as Arlecchino and Neuvillette. I think it's just recency bias when people say she's "bad", or as I like to call it, the Kokomi syndrome. Overall, I'm very much enjoying her and am happy with her place in the meta. EDIT: I changed up some formatting, cleaned up some wording and added a few more details, since my comment got quite a few upvotes. Thanks for those, by the way 🙏
@pulsar9537
@pulsar9537 16 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more on that one
@christophermauro-barias7451
@christophermauro-barias7451 16 күн бұрын
she has no place in the meta and she's def not on par with arlecchino
@qaztim11
@qaztim11 16 күн бұрын
the .6,.7 characters are always "future proofed" for the next region, Natlan will probably have a lot of BoL mechanics and other new mechanics to make her better
@None38389
@None38389 16 күн бұрын
@@christophermauro-barias7451 My Clorinde (C6R3) team clears the current 12-1 about 7 seconds faster than my Arlecchino (C6R5) team. Her ability to quickly move to the next wave and faster setup time made the difference. Arlecchino definitely have much higher single target damage but in multi-wave multi-enemies scenario Clorinde tend to do a bit better. (Arlecchino's damage falls off a lot when the fights drags on too.)
@x_Psyduck_x
@x_Psyduck_x 16 күн бұрын
@@None38389 sorry, but that's not relevant for 99,9% of players, we're talking about C0 or C1-C2 AT MOST, who gives a damn about a milliseconds on C6 characters. That said, I like both Clorinde and Arlecchino's playstyles equally though Clorinde has a bit more inconveniences artificially created by mihoyo
@knicklichtjedi
@knicklichtjedi 16 күн бұрын
I enjoy Clorinde a lot. For me, TF makes the difference. With Whimsy the rotations felt super awkward, but now with TF+Blacksword at 183CV, 1.5k Atk and 226 EM she feels nice! Still not suuuper sure about teams, but Sucrose, Clorinde, Nahida, Fischl is my favorite team so far.
@_shirou6275
@_shirou6275 15 күн бұрын
wheres our wriothesley post release king... its been 84 years
@genevievemccluer7503
@genevievemccluer7503 15 күн бұрын
I honestly find her to be one of the most fun units to play. I'm just a sucker for her zoomying all over the battlefield and starting off with her burst always feels amazing.
@snad4260
@snad4260 16 күн бұрын
kirara with clorinde is goated
@Rohan_Yadav7
@Rohan_Yadav7 16 күн бұрын
I was super duper excited for her ever since the fontaine trailer last year. All my excitement went down the drain as soon as I booted the test run. Playing her felt miserable. Glad I didn't pull her in my overexcited state of mind and now I can save for navia this time
@lanohuncho1045
@lanohuncho1045 16 күн бұрын
That how I felt at first but after 2 weeks of playing it feels much less clunky
@latitude990
@latitude990 16 күн бұрын
Kinda felt the same way. Also felt the reverse for Navia. Wasn't excited for her at all (before kit reveals etc), but played the test run and now she's my favorite char. Also she has my favorite combat voice line haha
@Rohan_Yadav7
@Rohan_Yadav7 16 күн бұрын
@@latitude990 ATTACK!! Lmao love her sm but unfortunately I lost to mona in her first banner
@RKNancy
@RKNancy 15 күн бұрын
​@@Rohan_Yadav7 I lost to Tighnari(Was my first copy). So I just pulled out my starglitter stash I had saved in cause I lost Furina's 50-50. I didn't, and those starglitters came in clutch for Navia.
@pyronado4320
@pyronado4320 15 күн бұрын
They totally killed any excitement I had Changed the green design Very late banner Little importance in archon quest Short duration No IR Ping dependent Just 😬
@hiimapop7755
@hiimapop7755 14 күн бұрын
The more units get released, the more I'm tempted to pull Zhongli, lol. Might try to get him in his next rerun if it's still far away (since I currently have a guarantee I'm using for Furina's C2).
@EvanM-ko8ym
@EvanM-ko8ym 11 күн бұрын
If you have layla, she's a good alternative for a shield for now until you get zhongli, you can easily swap her build onto big zhong once you get him 🙂
@ChaosRune
@ChaosRune 16 күн бұрын
This video had way more cope than the usual post-release stuff, I mean, you mainly talked about how she was "not that bad", how her less useful teams are "still ok", how "she is fine", that doesnt inspire much confidence on her as a character
@heinzkohl7739
@heinzkohl7739 15 күн бұрын
maybe that's the point brainlet... Delete the pfp u aint there
@chuckguy120
@chuckguy120 15 күн бұрын
Bruh not everything need to be hyped. She is mid, that's what zajeff meant to said. Mid as in just average, good enough in term of damage, not crazy like arle neuvi, not bad like yoimiya. Many people thought of mid as bad because idk brsinrot or smthg when in reality she is just mid, average, 3/5, you name it so the word "ok" and "fine" is perfect description of her. Her less useful team are still OK in context of this abyss where in second chamber it's more of elemental application check on the first half against pyro lector, which mean her taser team can be better that her quicken team.
@maxxvii2037
@maxxvii2037 10 күн бұрын
Well that's because Clorinde is a pretty average unit that doesn't do anything new or better than other already existing units. If Fischl didn't exist she would the worst DPS of Fontaine.
@seph4707
@seph4707 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the content! Clorinde feels like Better Cyno (& Keqing). Her rotations allow Furina, fischl, and nahida to do their thing comfortably. Add Zhongli when I don't feel like playing good or Furina is needed elsewhere. TF is fine like you said. Nahida and fischl are super easy to set up if you need a 2nd rotation. Just hold back your bursts for another wave. Its nice that Qiqi has a team that does things.
@AndresLionheart
@AndresLionheart 16 күн бұрын
I don't like playing her with Kazuha because then you have to do stupid shit to get the Electro swirl over Nahida's Dendro. I've been using Zhongli which works great because Clorinde and Fischl can already heal themselves if they take some damage here and there. Furina in there instead of Zhongli can be fun as well (no shield but more self healing). I have kinda adjusted to the shitty situation with Bond of Life and Ping. Did Zajef find Arlecchino fun or just good? because with Arle you really don't do much more than you do with someone like Yoimiya to be honest (especially at C2+ when you don't even need to let the mark cook). You can't call that super fun gameplay.
@dareijos4282
@dareijos4282 16 күн бұрын
I agree, was going to pull Arlecchino but didn't really like her gameplay, nor her animations. That's of course subjective, but for me Clorinde is definitely more appealing in both departments. I think she's just literally a character that people will be divided on.
@atombubble4757
@atombubble4757 16 күн бұрын
Arle is a bit more fun than yoi in my opinion because you can swap off and keep your damage. This can create some situations where dealing a couple hits swapping to a support then swapping back is really good and that's something not a lot of dps units can do. Pushing her to the limit by skipping her burst and getting rewarded for it is also something I have a lot of fun with.
@AndresLionheart
@AndresLionheart 16 күн бұрын
@@atombubble4757 True. Being able to swap out does make her more fun that Yoi. I don't like that I can't see the Burst unless I need to heal tho D= (then again, you never Burst with Yoi either, lol). I guess my point was that when it comes to dealing damage all you do is spam click.
@tasha2749
@tasha2749 16 күн бұрын
​@@AndresLionheartwell to be fair half the character gameplay is literally either press e q swap or press e q and spam left click😂, some character dont even use their burst and just e swap
@couchpotato1546
@couchpotato1546 16 күн бұрын
I tried using Bennett instead of kazuha in aggravate comp, it's good
@bjornnilsson2941
@bjornnilsson2941 15 күн бұрын
I’m not enjoying my Chlorinde, but I think it’s mainly because she’s about 3 feet tall and has a cryo vision…
@mattstringfellow9353
@mattstringfellow9353 16 күн бұрын
I think shes really fun
@rhemaderek-ayemere1903
@rhemaderek-ayemere1903 16 күн бұрын
Yay zajef posted
@granthiksharma4626
@granthiksharma4626 13 күн бұрын
200 pulls saved for murata. Might look into the new dendro perfume girl if she is any good sub dps
@caliburnleaf9323
@caliburnleaf9323 15 күн бұрын
The moment I saw the uptime nerf, I was worried about what it would do to her unit feel. After playing her extensively in the trial, I can say my fears not only were justified, but that she has an even bigger problem I didn't think about: the camera. With how mobile she is, I've killed an enemy only to have no idea where the next one is too many times to count, and when this happens it *really* cuts into your uptime. Perhaps this is less of a problem with TF, since you can just start another rotation right away, but it really put me off from rolling her. (Controller player, fwiw)
@ash-2650
@ash-2650 15 күн бұрын
I think the problem with making a strong electro carry is that if u use that electro character in aggravate teams he/she may be too op. I think that concern of Hoyo made Clorinde little bit weaker than she is supposed to be.
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 14 күн бұрын
They learned their lesson from Alhaitham. Frequency matters just as much as raw numbers. Fischl and Chlorinde trigger aggravate like crazy fast so if Chlorinde hit really hard then she'd be broken. Alhaitham is op because of the same thing, how often he can just trigger spread not to mention his strong split scaling.
@Daniele-PierreDuLac
@Daniele-PierreDuLac 14 күн бұрын
@@freshlymemed5680 lol wut? Alhaitham barely does over 40% of the damage in his strongest teams. Kuki basically does as much damage as he does most of his teams.
@Sunnyismyusername
@Sunnyismyusername 16 күн бұрын
Clorinde is the most fun character to me
@badlamprey891
@badlamprey891 16 күн бұрын
I think ultimately, the power just isn't there, and her gameplay is quite busy, so, immediately after powerhouses like navia and neuv and arly, it feels like you're doing more work for less return.
@keku52
@keku52 15 күн бұрын
idk about but Navia is literally on her and Lyney's level, Navia doesnt deserved to be put on the same sentence as Neuvillette and Arlecchino since the former is on a tier of his own and the latter is more or less if a pyro catalyst user had 400% MV on each basic atk. Navia is so overrated it's not even funny (then again, her abyss usage rate is a testament of how overrated she is when it comes to youtube and reddit cesspools)
@zekeret792
@zekeret792 15 күн бұрын
navia sneak. even lyney does better than her in low cost speedrun.
@bumibomber
@bumibomber 15 күн бұрын
​@@keku52Navias pull value and play rate is high because shes different and fun to play in a way most characters arent, not necessarily that shes strong imo. People dont play the strongest possible team for abyss everytime they usually play the funnest team / the comfiest. Chlorinde is stronger keqing / yae but you cripple her if you play with a shield and feels like shit when playing without one because of the absurd skill time nerf.
@chuckguy120
@chuckguy120 15 күн бұрын
@@keku52 I agree that navia doesn't deserve to be put on the same level as neuvi and arle, but she isn't really overrated. She have the upside of dealing several burst damage in one rotation which can be a good thing if you have enough investment to one rotate content. But yeah she also got a downside like not really good in big AOE, no grouping, and crit fishing.
@lovace411
@lovace411 14 күн бұрын
​@@keku52 Navia might be overrated but so is Arlecchino imo. A well played Lyney has roughly the same dps as Arlecchino but with access to better frontloaded damage.
@biscy03
@biscy03 15 күн бұрын
I'm sadly disappointed with her, the CD nerf really ruined her. Especially after experiencing a chara like Arle with technically no CD on optimal play, playing Clorinde feels AWFUL. I'm gonna have to gamba really really hard to get her a functional TF set. The only TF set I have is on Keqing & is crit rate focused so I cant give it to Clorinde. Also, her enemy targeting is so bad. Sometimes she targets the enemy I want, sometimes its a different enemy, sometimes she's flying off to go knows where & leaving the enemies behind. I can see myself going back to just playing with Miko cos she actually is just a lot more fun than Clorinde.
@SaiyukiGS
@SaiyukiGS 15 күн бұрын
i have enjoyed clo on TF. not gonna farm whimsy cause i enjoy not having to wait for e cd. yea i feel that lack of int res against aggressive enemies too
@Senorgato029
@Senorgato029 15 күн бұрын
Been a bit lazy with playing genshin so I haven’t played her quite enough to determine if the novelty has worn off but I don’t see how that burst animation could get old and she is on mistsplitter so I do gotta use it
@1Henrink
@1Henrink 16 күн бұрын
All views Zajeff is ascending !
@touyaakira4602
@touyaakira4602 14 күн бұрын
Can't wait for Clorinde Post-Release buff guys
@unaffectedbycardeffects9152
@unaffectedbycardeffects9152 16 күн бұрын
You can't tell me that after I spent 70 bucks! Anyway, I really like playing her, so it doesn't matter
@RatchR
@RatchR 16 күн бұрын
pew pew
@melonbread4269
@melonbread4269 3 күн бұрын
Guys, is the ping issue true? Soz I've been busy so I pretty much just pulled for her then haven't played since. My ping is like in the 200s and I heard that N3E doesn't actually get you the full combo at high ping, so you gotta do N4E...or something like that
@deRykcihC
@deRykcihC 16 күн бұрын
balls
@fxckprozac
@fxckprozac 16 күн бұрын
real shit
@ananasplamenomet
@ananasplamenomet 15 күн бұрын
I like her design, I like her gameplay and I am not salty about the long E cooldown, because I the set I use on her is thunder fury, so I try to do many electro related reactions and it WORKS.
@spark9_
@spark9_ 14 күн бұрын
I'm definitely enjoying watching Clorinde move 😏
@Joonng04
@Joonng04 15 күн бұрын
how good is Echoes for Clorinde guys? i have a quite decent full set of Echoes, and havent farmed a single piece of Fragment. If the gap between those 2 sets is acceptable, i might go for Echoes
@phoenixlau
@phoenixlau 14 күн бұрын
Assuming you have the low ping to make it work as intended., Echoes is about on par with Gladiator which is also fine. You'll be taking 5-10% hit from Whimsy.
@agiant5715
@agiant5715 15 күн бұрын
I honestly really liked her design and kit feel especially because I dont have any other electro onfielder (sadly my shougn is c0r0 so outside of national/hyperbloom she doesnt do good dmg atleast for abyss) so would have filled a hole in my character rooster. But alas i had to skip her as i read that shes very ping dependent not unlike echo set and with my already bad 300+ ping, didn't want to risk playing a characterwho at c0r0 ppl say feels a bit underwhelming even more nerfed because my ISP issue. Although I would like to ask others what do you think is the potential dmg lost from having high ping with her? As i read everything from negligible to a 1/3 of her total dmg lost per rotation
@MSR93
@MSR93 16 күн бұрын
i have fun with Clorinde. she's like the embodiment of electro, fast as lightning. its like having the 4th Hokage in the team.
@nohackershere6592
@nohackershere6592 16 күн бұрын
I run her on the Fischl-Nahida-Kazhua team. But I also put a prototype amber on Nahida. It is far from ideal for Nahida's damage, but it provides enough healing for comfort if you play well enough to not get beat up. Even used that team against triple kenki last abyss and it performed just fine as long as I dodged and i-framed the attacks appropriately. And my artifacts are a joke on that account, nobody but Neuvi is geared well on it, but it still got close to 36* this new abyss cycle. Other side was Neuvi-Furina-Dehya-Jean.
@agiant5715
@agiant5715 15 күн бұрын
Honestly dont feel bad about nahida's dmg taking a hit as usually her offield contribution to the overall team dmg isnt that much anyways even if build right (which is why emilie is shown tobe a great replacement for her in a few teams because she can replace the offield dendro application role + actually giving significant extra side dmg). The only thing that you maybe missing on is the extra EM boost of nahida's burst if u were running her with an EM subset weapon but: A. I don't have chorline so I dont know how significant or not extra EM is for her. B. Knowing her and kazhua's ER requirements especially if not given enough from their builds, you probably did the right call to make nahdia a healer/battery with it
@nohackershere6592
@nohackershere6592 15 күн бұрын
@@agiant5715 Yeah, energy isn't an issue. And I still managed to keep my Nahida at nearly 700 EM with triple EM when using the amber. The team feels really comfy, and doesn't feel as gimped as it would if I replaced Fischl or Kazuha with a shield. I'm quite impressed with the team honestly, I'm getting 6* on 12, which is the best that the account I have her on has ever done.
@rohansensei5708
@rohansensei5708 16 күн бұрын
9 secs to 7.5 made her so terrible especially because she has no interrupt to resistance and her healing is beyond mid. I think she's fun but a mid unit that is bound to dendro like any other electro dps which is a huge shame.
@kasumi9873
@kasumi9873 16 күн бұрын
her healing and dodges are enough to sustain her from my expierence(especially in furina teams,where she can heal back half of her HP) thus this allows her to skip deffensive slot in her teams (i mean u can use zhongli for comfort,but why when u can use kazuha or sucrose instead) The point is she is very difficult to master if you want to get her teams to their full potential
@rohansensei5708
@rohansensei5708 16 күн бұрын
@@kasumi9873 Not really, she's extremely easy to play just like any dps in Genshin that is not Al Haitham or Childe. Her dashes are only useful when you use them to spacing by dashing through enemies which isn't really that useful all the time. The problem is when you get hit once or even dodge you lose big chunk of damage. She needed that 9s of uptime since she doesn't have hitlag and resistance to interruption. Her healing is meh without Furina and her rotations are sh*t without 4TF. She's just a slightly better Keqing without her c2 at the end of the day but Keqing is way more comfortable to play since she isn't forced to risk getting hit every 3 hit by her own attack. Worst of all Mihoyo didn't even put her resistance to interruption on her c1 like Arle and Neuv.
@crimo1692
@crimo1692 16 күн бұрын
She isn't bound to Dendro, her electro charge team with Furina is pretty amazing as well. Had faster clear with that team than my Neuvillette team on triple kenki, all c0.
@AlwaysThirstys
@AlwaysThirstys 15 күн бұрын
@@rohansensei5708 Spreading misinformation everyday everynight
@IAmPatat
@IAmPatat 15 күн бұрын
@@rohansensei5708 her healing is good, i played her with furina, no healer or shielder at first and it was a fun experience, defo more comfy with kirara though as it was VERY far from easy to play. she allows for more offensive teams and isnt as bad as u make it out to be. i defo wish she didnt get her uptime reduced or at least had some interruption res
@TreyGarlic-mr7ut
@TreyGarlic-mr7ut 14 күн бұрын
I wanted her Sig sword but when i lost the 50/50 in getting her and then got her after using the wishes I saved for the weapon banner, I got burnt out lmao
@Tai-Lung
@Tai-Lung 15 күн бұрын
She is the same level as C0 widsith wanderer in dps. I was disappointed by wanderer and now clorinde is also doing the same
@Daivd1111
@Daivd1111 16 күн бұрын
3:24 OVER 9000!!!!!
@StanTheWoz
@StanTheWoz 15 күн бұрын
Initially when I pulled her I was disappointed with the uptime but after playing the teams more I don't have a problem with it. Only big gripe is her lack of interruption resistance, because her uptime is so short I feel she's almost unplayable without it because even dodging is a large DPS loss, but the teams with Zhongli and Xingqiu do feel reasonably good so it's not terrible.
@StanTheWoz
@StanTheWoz 15 күн бұрын
so if anything she's maybe more fun than I expected. I didn't have a real aggravate team before this though, I definitely think her value is lower if you already had one you liked
@strw_skll
@strw_skll 16 күн бұрын
Cooldown sucks
@rajarex2498
@rajarex2498 16 күн бұрын
awesome video mate!
@akxelhere
@akxelhere 16 күн бұрын
she have a very visual gameplay but boring and repetitive teams. At this point I like to get 36 stars in abyss with my best teams and THEN try to clear it with Clorinde
@windiersinger1217
@windiersinger1217 16 күн бұрын
Boring and repetitive teams? You’re not being forced to play the same old Fischl Kazuha Nahida team. Come friend, join the Skyward Clorinde cult. It is one of the most fun/unique teams I’ve played in a millennia, and it performs surprisingly well too.
@couchpotato1546
@couchpotato1546 16 күн бұрын
The same can be said to international teams, it's been 3+ years yet you won't see anyone bitch about that repetitive team
@windiersinger1217
@windiersinger1217 15 күн бұрын
@@couchpotato1546 Lol I wasn’t complaining about it on here cuz national has pretty much nothing to do with Clorinde, but I hate that team too. Not because it’s repetitive (it absolutely is, playing that same team over and over again practically every abyss cycle) but because I thoroughly despise Xiangling. Never enough ER, never enough crit, never enough EM…it’s practically impossible to build her right and I hate it, so I don’t really use her (and thus don’t really use national).
@sock3981
@sock3981 9 күн бұрын
im expecting a BOL buffer eventually
@thelakes_s
@thelakes_s 16 күн бұрын
just got one copy of her by winning my 50/50 and shes a nice addition to my account! been wanting to play some aggravate stuff but i didnt want to use raiden for that she’s fun imo but the lack of ir is really tough to deal with in certain situations i’ve been liking clorinde/yaoyao/fischl/kazuha or clorinde/furina/nahida/jean the most teams wise
@sorenkair
@sorenkair 16 күн бұрын
hmm not sure if i should pull her on my main acc which has black sword or my alt which has mist and also a lot more primos.
@Aregulargameplayer
@Aregulargameplayer 16 күн бұрын
After all my testing with her, I just went back to playing Wuthering Waves… I don’t like the way her Quickbloom teams feel and honestly, even if her damage is better with her Sig, I think I find Keqing Quicken teams more fun to play.
@RemedyElixir
@RemedyElixir 15 күн бұрын
What?! Nine thousand?!
@KkeojyeoOW
@KkeojyeoOW 15 күн бұрын
I've been having fun with Clorinde! Definitely, been while since I had as much fun with the game :) After playing her while with C2 R1 I decided to blew rest of my primos on C6. 😂 I really don't like Neuvilette or Arle as much so I wanted to get a dps I'd be really happy with. I used to main Raiden since her release and before that been Keqing player, so you probably will see pattern there 😂 I do agree the skill cooldown is issue but I really see it only in Coop tho. Which is not big deal to me. I am sorry you are not happy with Clorinde as much hyped you been for her Zajef, thank you for cool and highly informative vids !❤ ❤❤
@BenitoAndito
@BenitoAndito 15 күн бұрын
So if I have an on-set Thundering fury healing bonus circlet with 50.5% CV, 1x atk% and 1x EM rolls Should I run that on my Clorinde-Furina team?
@mickysaif
@mickysaif 15 күн бұрын
there's no need for healing bonus, he was just demonstrating a furina situation without using furina
@niedoanimowanyrosomak9990
@niedoanimowanyrosomak9990 15 күн бұрын
not really, with furina alone clorinde takes 1/2 es to heal back to full from half hp
@R4vel
@R4vel 16 күн бұрын
I clicked through my notification instead of the link in chat! WOW!!
@user-bp3fk4vk5n
@user-bp3fk4vk5n 15 күн бұрын
Her healing is over 9000!!!
@jaguh9069
@jaguh9069 16 күн бұрын
The CD reduction from TF made her gameplay so much smoother. Even tho whimsy dmg is higher I don't think I will ever remove TF from her. 😂 Its just the button spamming that got my hand tired after playing her for a while, same as Yoimiya 😅
@zygie01
@zygie01 16 күн бұрын
You can hold the normal attack button (like Ayato) and she will keep shooting.
@jaguh9069
@jaguh9069 16 күн бұрын
@@zygie01 wait really? I got to try this later 👍
@nelhi3458
@nelhi3458 16 күн бұрын
I'm a big Clorinde fan and I feel like her gameplay feels a bit restrictive. I still love her and play her over other electro units but I'm having more fun experimenting on Sethos than I am on Clorinde who was just a by product from pulling on her banner. I don't understand why mihoyo places such huge restrictions on their characters. She's supposed to be a champion duelist but her normal attacks are worthless. She should have been a character that had flexible combos not skill, 1 2 3, skill 123, ult ocassionally.
@Sirindilable
@Sirindilable 16 күн бұрын
she is not bad indeed but do we need another electro?
@ngango9158
@ngango9158 16 күн бұрын
where were you when they released the 11th pyro dps
@Sirindilable
@Sirindilable 16 күн бұрын
@@ngango9158 Pyro is a strong element for vape and melt. Electro is weak and quite useless. It was obvious in 2.0 already.
@ixymyxl3055
@ixymyxl3055 16 күн бұрын
I think an electro shielder would be nice and there are probably some other cool kit designs they could come up with. A unit that's basically just an upgraded Keqing in most teams definitely isn't something we really needed though.
@Sirindilable
@Sirindilable 16 күн бұрын
@@ixymyxl3055 Your comment made me thinking about another interesting character - electro infuser. Like Candace, c6 Bennett or Chungyun only for electro. I wonder how Raiden will pair with such infuser. She can be amazing with her passive electro bonus... Or, Mihoyo will deliberately exclude her from infusable list, lol.
@Pheonee
@Pheonee 15 күн бұрын
She's the first 5* electro released in over a year and a half?
@ChiriKain
@ChiriKain 16 күн бұрын
got alhaitam sword, then did like 110-120 pulls for clorinde, didnt get her, then went back to keqing with the new sword and killed everything just fine, decided to not get clorinde and save for other chars since she is fairly similar to keq team wise, and just to clear a few seconds faster dont seems worth.
@the_real_tabby
@the_real_tabby 16 күн бұрын
She's too redundant. When theres already Keqing and Yae there's not really much point in another electro aggravate dps and her damage doesn't make up for that. It would have been smarter to design her with Chevreuse and overload in mind a bit more that would put her apart from other electro dps. Skyward blade Clorinde + Qiqi is definitely funny tho.
@valgeri3566
@valgeri3566 16 күн бұрын
No
@BadassHatdog
@BadassHatdog 16 күн бұрын
I think the huge W with Clorinde compared to Keqing and Yae is that somebody finally got to use that Finale of The Deep R5 lol (f2p rejoice).. so if for some reason who wanted an on-field DPS and don't have/don't want to give the mistsplitter or any 5* weapon you have there to her, she has that option and despite being from Fontaine she got to use TF 4pc (although, a more incovenience than Arelcchino's Gladiator Set if you haven't farmed TF in the past year) so yeah, my point is just mentioning how comforting she builds than both of them (thank god, Yae's EM set is finally on the strongbox)
@anrypettit3112
@anrypettit3112 16 күн бұрын
Yes
@ggwp8615
@ggwp8615 16 күн бұрын
Maybe
@artiviser1237
@artiviser1237 16 күн бұрын
For an electro dps to be unique now they need to make a character that attacks slowly with very large hits. Like an Electro Navia. It would be an electro hypercarry that is played with c6 Sara for example
@stewie_
@stewie_ 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, I like her but she's a pain to play with due to her being knocked around almost every time. I tried teaming her with XQ but is not enough.
@veonoev
@veonoev 16 күн бұрын
i love her! used her with qiqi zhongli and furina in abyss - such a weird team but worked
@windiersinger1217
@windiersinger1217 16 күн бұрын
Skyward Clorinde good! I personally found that I don’t really needs a shielder since Clorinde can just dash out of an enemy’s attack area anyways, so I use Fischl instead of Zhongli. But regardless, after ages of playing the same old teams (vape, national, quickbloom, etc), Skyward Clorinde has really revived my love for Genshin’s combat. It’s so refreshing and unique, you wouldn’t expect it to work but it does (and quite well too!). I’ve been using it nonstop, even in the first half of this new abyss (got 36 stars 😎)
@tavinhoo
@tavinhoo 14 күн бұрын
​​@@windiersinger1217zhong is for physical shred
@arunjosephshadrach9539
@arunjosephshadrach9539 15 күн бұрын
I regret pulling for chlorinde for the same reason. I don’t find her fun at all. Just pressing E after 3 attacks feels bad.
@miniminichild5340
@miniminichild5340 15 күн бұрын
I played her with furina nahida and dehya first half of floor 12and it felt pretty good (tho thats to be expected with two archons but i digress) but I agree with the sentiment of the video- in terms of dmg, its underwhelming, but like other comments said, she generally feels better than keqing because of the bol mechanic but other than that I wish she wasn’t nerfed🤧🤧
@isaacweber9435
@isaacweber9435 16 күн бұрын
How well does the qiqi team scale if you happen to have high refine skyward blade from standard banner?
@episode4882
@episode4882 16 күн бұрын
It’s just for fun team, u need to have C2+ Furina as well for the extra dmg bonus and good off field dmg It can’t even beat Clorinde rainbow, Clorinde + Nahida + Furina + full EM Dehya
@hlonghi
@hlonghi 15 күн бұрын
​@@episode4882I have no idea where the hell are people getting this. I could still clear this bitch of an abyss with the most unhinged Clorinde/Qiqi team at C0 with Skyward Blade and a lot of time to spare. My furina uses the fishing pipe. My Qiqi is C4 but that doesn't mean much. My artifacts are the most mid shit you will ever see. Will Clorinde rainbow clear faster? Probably. Will it be a more comfortable team? Not a chance in hell. You can eat absolutely everything and still survive just mashing like a lunatic. But again, you can also use a Heizou and Collei team to clear so I guess my point is moot.😂
@episode4882
@episode4882 15 күн бұрын
@@hlonghi this abyss is not hard, hp pool is higher but ur also using Fontaine units that have higher stats, Rainbbow does factually higher dmg than physical + electro hybrid, but that doesn’t mean the Clorinde + Qiqi does not do ‘enough’ dmg to clear, especially if your Skyward blade has high refinement and Furina is C2 Multiwave literally doesn’t matter when enemies have such low hp and 12-1-2 is just test for hydro app, basically promoting Neuvillette + Furina combo again
@AkemiHomura771
@AkemiHomura771 16 күн бұрын
ITS OVER 8 THOUSAND!!!
@aester_444
@aester_444 16 күн бұрын
what is?
@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters
@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters 15 күн бұрын
@@aester_444 Her DPS
@AkemiHomura771
@AkemiHomura771 14 күн бұрын
@@aester_444 Some Goku meme
@alexanderginger754
@alexanderginger754 16 күн бұрын
Yo zaj, try chlorinde nahida pamber furina thoma. Like a furina burgeon type thing but furina's buff actually matters. And thoma's shield actually helps so super fun frfr
@Boricosa
@Boricosa 16 күн бұрын
Bro is cooking⁉️
@hopwaffles
@hopwaffles 16 күн бұрын
Thomas needs to be c6 to be good otherwise forget about it 😂
@alexanderginger754
@alexanderginger754 15 күн бұрын
@@hopwaffles ye it's not particularly strong, just fun. I mean it clears floor 12 and my thoma is not even c4.. Why did you have to remind me
@episode4882
@episode4882 16 күн бұрын
Mid character mid dmg mid teams and mid future treatment most likely Just another Cyno situation but Fontaine, Hoyo needs to prevent baby girl Raiden from getting overshadowed by another electro unit that does not resemble their past creations from Honkai
@jijidu69
@jijidu69 15 күн бұрын
They kinda fucked up by not making Raiden way stronger
@cryoboy
@cryoboy 15 күн бұрын
I never played with quicken until now but I always thought it just means attacking with electro on an enemy that has dendro on it. So I just used Clorinde/Nahida/Chiori/Zhongli and cleared floor 12 bottom half pretty easy in one go. So what I don't understand is why people insist you need Fischl. Nahida does the dendro and then Clorinde attacks into it with electro, why do I need Fischl on top of it?
@bulletpunch9317
@bulletpunch9317 15 күн бұрын
How'd you kill the lectors fast?
@eclipseeffigy
@eclipseeffigy 15 күн бұрын
Fischl is there for damage. Every time you trigger an Electro elemental reaction, Fischl does a bonus attack that applies Electro. In other words: every Aggravate triggers another Aggravate. There is no way for non-Fischl teams to keep up in terms of damage.
@cryoboy
@cryoboy 15 күн бұрын
@@eclipseeffigy Ah I see, thanks. As I said, never tried any other dendro teams besides hyperbloom and Nilou. I just used Fischl/Furina/Yelan/Xianyun in the Golden Troupe domain so long that I knew exactly how long it takes me, 22-24 seconds, and when I switched her for Chiori even with only one puppet my times went down to 20-22 seconds so I assumed Chiori does more off-field damage. Maybe I should've used Fischl instead, I didn't realize she gets so cracked with dendro.
@cryoboy
@cryoboy 15 күн бұрын
@@bulletpunch9317 With Nahida (c0r1), Chiori (c1r1) and Clorinde (c0 Haran r1) and pretty high end artifacts (75+ crit/220+ crit dmg on Chiori and Clorinde, 1000+ EM on Nahida etc.) it wasn't a big deal. Well maybe a bit tougher than usual because it came down to the last 10-20 seconds.
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 14 күн бұрын
​@@cryoboy Fischl is cracked with any reaction that has electro in it. Its not thst she hits super hard its because Oz attacks a lot and it just speeds up how often you get reactions.
@simplyrem779
@simplyrem779 16 күн бұрын
Fun = subjective. Xing qiu is fking boring.
@Baolingcao
@Baolingcao 14 күн бұрын
D:
@3.6-57
@3.6-57 16 күн бұрын
I like her, but her teams... (I don't have nahida and chev 🤩)
@IngvarGWT
@IngvarGWT 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, even knowing that great chars probably incoming in 5.X, Nahida is still likely a must , same as Furina. Skip everything, get a 1-3 Nahidas, 1-3 Furinas and u r chilling, saving for Xbalanque/+Murata
@Sylvastier
@Sylvastier 16 күн бұрын
Of course those archons in particular are the strongest buffers in the game, but she's still strong enough with buffs from other characters. Her "best" buffers are the same best for everyone because THEY'RE busted, but Clorinde can still use Yunjin, Bennett, Kazuha, C6 Sara/Chev, etc. It's not like she has any weird scaling to make her awkward to play or make work.
@hopwaffles
@hopwaffles 16 күн бұрын
Imagine skipping nahida 💀
@maybe3241
@maybe3241 15 күн бұрын
@@Sylvastier sara loses value due to clorindes passive capping out at 3k atk, same for bennett
@unlucky7s561
@unlucky7s561 15 күн бұрын
I cant believe ppl still play this game. 😢
@Soggy681
@Soggy681 10 күн бұрын
Not fun char or Burned out?
@mortalkomment7954
@mortalkomment7954 16 күн бұрын
I do indeed hate sucrose, you got me there
@Kronman590
@Kronman590 14 күн бұрын
Honestly between tf clorinde and tf keqing, keqing feels a lot more fun and dynamic. Id rather string together a bunch of skills and CAs than just E -> hold M1-> E -> repeat
@robloxkwitisto6250
@robloxkwitisto6250 16 күн бұрын
its not about how she strong now. all i can see is the potential she got in the future that will release new supports that she can maximize
@SohanSmol
@SohanSmol 16 күн бұрын
How could she possibly utilize future supports better than current ones? I feel like she already has all the supports in game that benefits from her niche
@mickysaif
@mickysaif 15 күн бұрын
​@@SohanSmolmaybe the pyro archon will make her overload team more strong so that she won't be a dendro slave
@nikumilotic1333
@nikumilotic1333 15 күн бұрын
Wouldn't that benefit her competitors also And considering her mid quality of life she would be the same​@@mickysaif
@shonenhikada9254
@shonenhikada9254 14 күн бұрын
Wishing on a unit based on hypothetical, future supports is such a dumb move.
@shaqkage
@shaqkage 16 күн бұрын
Clorinde is super fun for me, glad I prefarmed for her. She has some of my fastest clear times on domains and Abyss is pretty good with her. Not the strongest, but good enough
@shyyy.196
@shyyy.196 14 күн бұрын
I got her 20 pulls from 0 pity 50/50 I only want thoma cons coz i only have c0 (well im at 0 pity 50/50 so i thought its safe to do some pulls 😅) But then she showed up 😂 Well now i have clorinde plus c2 thoma and a sethos 😂 But even when i didnt have her, im contemplating if i should get her coz i already have raiden And then now that i have her, IM STILL THINKING IF SHOULD BUILD HER OR NOT COZ I HAVE RAIDEN 😂😂😂 But in the end, ig i should 😂 so i can try her myself
@Raysureeea
@Raysureeea 12 күн бұрын
I got her on my first 10 pull and while she is nice to do overworld stuff she isn't that great.. Would rather have Raiden or even Kuki Shinobu
@dcakadark
@dcakadark 15 күн бұрын
She doesnt use favge bad unit true
@KingOfMalevolence
@KingOfMalevolence 16 күн бұрын
I play her with Raiden, Nahida and Baizhu and it's pretty decent. Since her uptime isn't that high I have time to also use Raiden as dps, which is cool because I like Raiden but it's hard to use her in teams where she isn't the only dps (outside of hyperbloom). I like the fast her playstyle a lot as well, I really like the concept of doing a lot of small hits really fast, and she's (I think?) the best in that category.
@aftertwentea
@aftertwentea 16 күн бұрын
Still trying to snipe her C2. She's great.
@LucidAtray07
@LucidAtray07 15 күн бұрын
Man a few of the last vids or opinions in general have been sounded more and more doomposty and just sad. At least its true this os subjective bc her gameplay is super fast paced and fun to me and lots of others people, i didnt expect her nor do i need her to be another Neuvi or Arle, idk
@ivan_osorio
@ivan_osorio 16 күн бұрын
Loving her gameplay, personally. Got her C0 and I enjoy using her on TF quite a bit. Furina, Fischl and Nahida makes a great team, as does Dehya, Chev and Beidou. Been good fun to play. She is not overpowered but doesn't feel weak either.
@luchicin
@luchicin 16 күн бұрын
I preferred to skip her for alhaitam, I already have neuvillette and arlechinno and nahida as the only dendro, I preferred to have an additional dendro unit for future contents that require having several characters.
@shimeji_e
@shimeji_e 16 күн бұрын
I find TF is very overrated on her since you don't do extended rotation outside of Furina teams, maybe also Xingqiu. in her usual aggravate team with Kazuha using TF or Glad/Whimsy made no difference since you'll need to swap out anyway. I only use it in coop now. idk i kinda like the elemental/shield checks on recent abyss where matchup matters more instead of strictly dps checks you can bruteforce with anyone. it's an obvious way of balancing abyss around any current featured unit.
@solstice003
@solstice003 16 күн бұрын
That's disappointing. Even though I got a c2 keqing I can use I still really wanted her and thought she'd be more fun and much stronger and cooler to play with
@bacongl
@bacongl 16 күн бұрын
I think she is a great unit and relatively fun. I didnt realize the stiff rotation she was going to have was going to be a factor in how much fun I was going to have with her. I actually prefer Raiden still. I kinda knew that was going to be the case. I am saving for Murata now. I am done with Fontaine units.
@onobonono
@onobonono 16 күн бұрын
I think she's fun in the context of genshin, but we're inevitably going to experience the wuwa effect since its combat is so much more engaging compared to genshin where they literally copy paste abilities sometimes.
@ElQueEdita
@ElQueEdita 15 күн бұрын
hoyo releasing 2 of the best characters at c6 in the same version but being dogwater at c0, i wonder if this was for getting more reneuve against ww
@Shadowphoenix43
@Shadowphoenix43 16 күн бұрын
i having fun with my clorinde so i not understanding
@tonydai782
@tonydai782 16 күн бұрын
Me when someone has an opinion:
@dareijos4282
@dareijos4282 16 күн бұрын
I mean, he said that it's subjective, so we shouldn't really hold that against him. For me the most boring character is Neuvillette, but there's tons of people that love his gameplay
@felixstep2066
@felixstep2066 16 күн бұрын
​@@dareijos4282 I think is not necessarily the gameplay, it's most likely the fact that there is so much DMG that can one shot anything.
@Shadowphoenix43
@Shadowphoenix43 16 күн бұрын
@@dareijos4282 oh that makes sense sorry i not holding this against him or anything
@miguelangelcosiorangel2617
@miguelangelcosiorangel2617 16 күн бұрын
I got her pulling for sethos and i gotta say she is pretty boring at least from what I expected her to be. I thinked the pistol + sword style would be funny to play remembering me of DMC or other hack n' slash games but nah. Plus i gotta add she is not even a noticable upgrade over keching in her best teams (aggravate) at least in SIM calculations she ended up being better than my c4 keching only at c2 (wich i didn't pulled for) and that's pretty disappointing for a limited time character compared to a standard one.
@alatus_knight
@alatus_knight 16 күн бұрын
3:25 Truly a "It's over 9000" moment
@lokyloky3420
@lokyloky3420 16 күн бұрын
regret pulling for her her e feels short, have to watch the xp bar all the time, easy to interrupt won't use her much :(
@herexcellency4304
@herexcellency4304 16 күн бұрын
this means she's fun af to play, noted
@headlesshiidra
@headlesshiidra 16 күн бұрын
Whimsy is best damage but horrible feeling rotations. TF is free rotations but worse dmg. Abyss is fucking her over on both sides on both this and last Abyss so it's hard to really tell how good she is since everything is multi wave rn for some reason AND super application specific. I'm just gunna use her in overworld, a lack of competitive damage is irrelevant and she is super fun, not to mention her skill dash spam regens stamina over the duration so you have good movement. She feels like a gateway drug between casual and Hard-core gamers
@thelakes_s
@thelakes_s 16 күн бұрын
she was fine first half for me? idk what team ur using but clorinde/yaoyao/fischl/kazuha felt good first half
@rsatriasuryacandra23
@rsatriasuryacandra23 15 күн бұрын
bruh if you cant clear this abyss with clorinde its purely a skill issue, first half is literally clorinde victim
@headlesshiidra
@headlesshiidra 15 күн бұрын
@@rsatriasuryacandra23 see the first half of the comment. Multiple waves feels terrible without tf and the damage it provides is fairly less than the whimsy set depending on the sets you have.
@-Emet-
@-Emet- 16 күн бұрын
i was hoping for a better xiao, dash type of unit. but she feels so dull and boring after 1 week. i dunno man. genshins feels so bad after Wuwa I don't even wanna play it anymore
@deliro8758
@deliro8758 16 күн бұрын
I have an absolute blast playing her with Furina, Nahida, Fischl. Just really fun. Kazuha makes every team less fun in my experience
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