Quick correction- the Gigabyte B650I has no SATA data ports on the board itself- if you mount the riser card you get four ports- two ports on the top of the card and two ports on the side of the card.

These itx boards should be priced around $185 - $225.

This video was 100% what I was looking for 😁 Was trying to sort through all the noise when I came across it

Absolutely love your channel! I love sfx builds and your videos honestly take so much of the headache away from planning the build!!

Thank you for these reviews, I've been waiting to buy my mobo until I saw your roundup. Think I'm gonna go with the Asus B650e-i after all, but I'm glad I waited. Cheers mate!

i like how your channel is ITX specific. im subscribing

Commented on the other video too soon! This was just what i was looking for, really obscure topic it seems! Thanks a lot for the content.

Nice video, been waiting for a round up of the gen 5 boards!

Thanks for the roundup! Love the content!

I still use the CH8 Impact mDTX board and love the form factor so much. I can't see myself upgrading from it until end of AM5 or mid-cycle AM6. I hope Asus can pull off another AMD mDTX board in the future. That said, great details and coverage of the current set of ITX AM5 boards.

I got the Gigabyte B650i, so far it is OK but no debug is annoying.. Thanks for the great videos!

I recently built in the NR200P MAX at the weekend, I have a 12th gen i9 so i went with the MSI B760i Edge WiFi DDR5, i'm not overclocking the cpu, the motherboard has been great I have it pared with 64GB DDR5 6400Mhz Corsair Dominator RAM and a Zotac 3080, also I have 2 black 120mm slim arctic fans at the bottom of the case as intake, when i'm not using the PC i have the glass side panel on for show and when I'm using the PC I put the vented panel on, it's a great case for my small space, I have another build with a 13th gen i9 and a zotac 4090 Trinity, I even thought about putting that gpu in but it might be too big! i'm using the NR200P MAX build as a streaming PC. Great channel btw I love the content it's very chill.

great coverage, thanks 🎉 👍

Amazing video man, much appreciated!

Subscribed, I've been really impressed with your content, thank you for all the useful and honest info

Thanks for this video! I think I know which board to get for my build now. Thanks! Mow!

I've been looking forward to this round up and thank you for providing. Nice to get the clarity on features that make a difference. I'd love to hear your thoughts on these boards in context to Zen5 cpus. Do you think there's anything to seperate them regarding these future cpus and possible faster DDR5 memory?

I've been saying since they made the DTX board ..... It should become a staple form factor. I originally got the Gigabyte B650i Ultra board when I went to Micro Center a few weeks ago because of the bundle deal they had at the time. After banging my head against the wall for hours due to the breakout cables & the board refusing to post. I returned it to MC & they had a better deal but it was for a Asus B650E-F ATX board. I still had my old 011 mini so I was like at least I can get up & running for now. However I plan to mod my NR200 to fit a mATX motherboard & I'm going to pick up the best board I can find to fit my needs.

I had the B650E-i from ASUS and I had never ending stability issues. Updated BIOS whenever a new revision was available, ran memory stock but still experienced BSODS. To rub salt into the wound, it also had awful coilwhine. I might have gotten really unlucky with the batch of ASUS boards when I ordered mine, but as soon as I switched to the MSI b650, everything just worked. No BSODS, no coilwhine, no stability issues. Feature wise, it lags behind the ASUS board, both in terms of IO and in placement of headers on the motherboard, but I'll happily trade that for a board that just works.

Thanks for this. i am planning on a new personal SFF computer later this year. i had already thought the MSI was the best board for me and this excellent review just confirms this. My last couple of builds (both SFF for family members) were done with MSI mobos and they have worked well with a good bios as well. i wish the board manufacturers could figure how to put the audio plug in a different spot. With chunkier GPU's, trying to plug the video card in, that damn wire always gets in the way for me. Its likely not a big deal if you use a riser cable. my biggest question is which case to use but at the end of the day i am still leaning to using the NR200P. i just have to have a glass panel to look inside especially with the case sitting on my desk and see my work. Plus i want to air cool it. I am not a huge gamer or productivity user but i just like a nice setup to look at (yeah i like some RGB accents too). My last build was in the NR200P with a Noctua air cooler and it went very well thanks to your very helpful videos on building in the case and how to set up the air cooling for optimal results.

you know M&M, I have an AM4 ITX build and was considering upgrades to AM5, and was dismayed by my options. I bought a 5800X3D instead and kept my AM4 Gigabyte Aorus pro AX. too much cash to jump to AM5 ITX for the features I wanted, and the weird daughter boards etc... PCIE 5 etc. Good on you for digging through this puzzle!

Very good review,,,I don't think i'll ever go any itx, but so good to know what's on offer at this time,,,for me ATX only,,,keep up with good job MM!!! Greetings from Kosovo!

Great review bud.

Thank you much! Super helpful

the msi one is cheaper in my country by around 60 usd compared to asus and gigabyte. looks like i found a winner. thank you so much for the in-depth reviews

This channel is underrated

Love this summary, great video! I grabbed the MSI for $239 back when it was on sale when the 7800x3d launched, which I grabbed as well. It’s been solid other than issues with RAM at 6000, but 5800 has been good. Glad I decided to go with it as it was the cheapest option at the time and I was pretty surprised to see the price climb up the way it did.

Just purchased the MSI board for $241 missed the $231 price from Amazon during Black Friday, but they’ve been slowly increasing the price which it is now $251. So $241 isn’t terrible, but the video helped put peace of mind knowing some of the pros and cons.

The ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I is the best ITX board for Ryzen 7000, Amazing price, great board and really really good for the Big Shuriken 3 Rev B cooler! I own both and have zero complaints.

Thanks for the info 👍

Great work

The Asus B650E does have an external Clear CMOS Button. It's located in the I/O area, lower left corner. See at 3:42 for example. In sum of all features definitely the best AM 5 ITX Board.

I would love to see a review series on z690i and z790i intel motherboards too. So far I've been having a miserable time with ASUS's try on these chipsets on ITX. z690i produces WHEA PCIe hardware errors while the z790i has a dead memory channel. Meanwhile MSI z790i works flawlessly.

Your Ryzen 7000 ITX-motherboard series is great! Super helpful. I just came across a new B650 ITX mobo from Asrock (Asrock B650I Lightning WIFI), cheaper then the msi, asus and Asrock PG. If you are able to put that in a new video?

do you have any plans of reviewing the meshroom from ssupd? I've been looking forward to getting the meshlicious but I can't seem to get any black ones with a riser cable for msrp

Have Gigabyte sorted their backdoor issues? Also is it possible to do a video for m-atx focused on those with gen5 for GPUs? Gen5 for storage as a consumer doesn’t really makes a difference vs gen4, but having a motherboard with gen5 GPU support would be nice since I tend to use the board for 3-4 years. Rumors suggest we get gen5 GPUs in 2024.

Planning a nr200 build and this has been so helpful! You think a 240mm aio will fit in the top with a 3 slot gpu under?

God's work, man. By God I mean the Omnissiah.

What do you think about the ASRock B650I Lightning WiFi? I dont know if i should get the ASRock one or the MSI motherboard.

great video

Hey man any thoughts on the ASRock B650I ITX? its pretty attractively priced at $199!

thank you sir

Thank you.

Any reason why the gigabyte a620i ax was not included?

One of the trickiest part of itx builds motherboard price then cases , same company making ATX cases at 90 will ask for 170 for itx case 🤗

I have a whole bunch of components for my next mini-itx build (NR200P, Cooler Master V750 SFX, SN850X, ...) waiting for my next build. I am just missing the Motherboard/cpu/ram combo... The B650 looks fine but it is very expensive. I am hesitating between a GIGABYTE B550I AORUS Pro AX and a B760 solution like a ASUS ROG Strix B760-I. As Machine&More is my "Bible" when building a mini-ITX configuration, I am wondering why there are no reviews about mini-itx motherboards for Intel 12th and 13th generations? Any consideration not to go with a B760 solution (or even a B660) and keep the older and solid B550 solution?

Hopefully you'll review the a620i ax too from gigabyte. It's sold out tho on newegg

I have no problems at all with my Asus B650E-I, awesome board, no coil whine, RAM with EXPO stable at DDR5-6000 CL 30, built 04/2023. Just make sure you have the latest BIOS installed.

very helpful

hello :> could you please recommend some better value kits for the b650i edge? think of somethink similar to the micron e-die during the early am4 era :> prefererably low profile if possible

Only the Gigabyte is fanless, and the Asrock can be ran fanless? The MSI chipset overheats without that fan on it?

with the new motherboards coming out, I am looking to upgrade to AM5 on my NR200. I will never buy a motherboard with an active fan on it ever again though, the one I currently have on my asus AM4 board is so fricking loud -.- Can you recommend a board without fan for the nr200+AM5?

isn't the gigabyte backplate metal? i think i recall my B550i being metal

I just send my MSI B650i back right after I purchased it. The audio jack had a terrible distortion noise depending on the CPU load, especially in CS2 just so awful. I think this is just a rare failure but at least a think to look out for when testing your system

Does the external Hive device require Asus bloatware to function? If it does than its nothing but a paper weight.

Ive not watched this yet, but based on previous reviews I got the Asus (B650E), even though the VRM's are not the best..

Thanks, these videos have been super helpful. Hopefully your affiliate links are still working, I’ve tried to buy everything I could through your vid links to show my appreciation. I’m purchasing parts for my first ITX build. Would you still recommend the MSI mobo? It’s currently up to $270+… yikes

AM5 ITX boards are at least 30% more expensive than their intel itx counterparts it seems which is pretty crazy. Thinking about selling my b550i / r5 5600x / 32 gig ddr4 as a whole bundle to get some cash toward an am5 build

OT, but there've been many cases of ROG B550i + RTX40x0 causing stability issues on reddit sffpc. The issue been around for almost half year and with the lastest July BIOS update the problem still persists. Would you be interested looking into this issue, thanks!

Hey M&M, thanks for this comprehensive summary. Which ITX board is better for AM5 futureproofing?Is the B-650E-I Strix enough for Ryzen 8000 or 9000 cpus? Or Better to go with X670e Strix-1 or go higher with Crosshair Gene though that is matx?Thanks

I was debating between MSI B650 and ASRock B650I LIGHTNING WIFI for 7800x3d. Many report strong fan noise on MSI board and loud coil vine. Not sure about this AsRock board. Seems ok at 200$ price tag. Would appreciate some input

M&M have you asked Asrock for the A620i recent releases for review? A620i for $140 with 7800X3D seems promising to make jump to AM5 Gaming rig.

How is the temps with a 7700X & 4070 in that case?

for 2024, what's the best value gaming ITX build with best longevity? I still got my meshlicious case :D

Hopefully you can make a similar video for intel cpus

Am I the only one who thinks Asus is on the right track with having debug LED's on the outside? Where it's actually visible and therefore useable? What's the use if it's on the board and you can't see it because it's crammed inside an ITX case. Would you prefer to open up your ITX case just to look at your debug LED's? I like the Hive setup specifically because of this. I'm building inside the meshroom case so I think it'd be nice to have the volume, extra inputs, Debug LEDs etc. all at my fingertips. No BOO! Don't innovate, charge more money for the same board as last time.

I am looking to build my first itx build, and that msi board here in Canada is 20-40 bucks more than the rog b650, so I think that will be my choice.

is there a Mini-ITX case that i can use standard sized power supply, i just don't want to purchased a new Small sized Power Supply snice i spend $250.00 DeepCool PG-1200 Watts when is was newly released... give me at least 3 Mini-ITX Case recommendation's... Thank you

MSI B650i have BSOD and BIOS issues when having the EXPO. What is your bios configuration with regards to the expo for each board to be able to run stable and have faster boot time?

So which one that have fastest boot time?

How about Gigabyte A620I AX? It's cheaper than its B650 counterparts and still supports all Zen 4 CPUs.

Why are these sooo expensive? I don't remember MO being this expensive with my last ITX build few years ago.

All 5 ITX board only Gigabyte's B650I have DisplayPort built in. I wonder why other brand remove DisplayPort, but there in more old AM4 ITX MB have DisplayPort.

I use Asus B650E-I MB and I hate it because of very noticeable coil whine around the CPU area.

thoughts on the ASROCK620i lightning

I like you and the way you think. But the format of the way you present your findings in this video make it extremely circuitous. I wish there were more graphics and data to go along with what you were talking about.

Any board with an Intel nic is a no go for me. Been burned by the b550i strix Intel i225-v and will not go for any board with i225/i226.

thx

waiting for your review of new gigabyte a620 itx board, should be a cheaper alternative to those overpriced boards

It really seems like there's only one option for those of us that require a Thunderbolt 4 / USB 40 Gbps. Or go Intel, I guess.

What about 620 chipsets?

Would be good to mention quality control and any firmware issues... Asus appears to have the worst ratings on Amazon for example

Asus coil whine?

Scythe Fuma 3 review coming up?

Your vid us great, but man can you slow down with those acronyms!

ran out of asus b650e-i me gonna cry

Why the msi B650i is so expensive in teh US?? In central EU its around 220~230€ since the beginning... bad luck i guess, very happy with mine as a ITX first timer!

YO M&M!!!...The Gigabyte B650i has (4) SATA 6 ports on the add on card Msi B650i - (2) M.2 & (4) SATA ports Ggiabyte B650I - (3) M.2 & (4) SATA ports (one of three M.2 ports are pci-e 5.0) Max memory capacity for MSI B650I & Gigabyte B650i - 96Gb Gigabyte backplate is NANOCARBON (excellent heat absorption & heat transfer properties). That backplate uses that speacial plastic, LMAO! Anyhoot, I like it (thumb up!). However, I do wish it had a clear CMOS button on the rear IO (thumb down) MSI B650i - $299 Gigabyte B650i - $259 It was very easy for me to buy Gigabyte over the others because powerful vrm & (3) M.2s with 5.0/4.0/4.0 pci-e) & (4) SATA ports I can forgive Gigabyte for the dongles & no debug led indicator 4 months & running...no regrets buying the Gigabyte B650i (double thumbs up w/smiley face!!!)

I went through an Asrock b650i lightning that just died on me after 3 weeks, and now a brand new gigabyte b650i aorus that refuses to post no matter what…. Returning all this crap and going back to Am4 itx 😡

Asus have problem burning cpu.

MSI Board only have 1 display output. Not ideal for productivity.

I thought everywhere was just sold out on x670 itx boards, didn't know there just straight up weren't any. Guess it's B650E for me.

They're all so ridiculously overpriced. The A620 is finally a lower price but doesn't support PBO

I want to movie to mini itx, but I also want 3 nvme slots. Is there any with that option?

choosing a ryzen cpu is a hard choice

Why do all these boards suck

Nope, not doing Asus again... MSI is solid choice

'Plastic back shield' @ 2:10? That's anodized aluminum.

You’ve got to be insane to buy an AMD mini itx motherboard!!! Welp, Intel won the mini itx market

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