Shimano EP8 Tips & Tricks Every E-Mountain Biker Should Know

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There are many ways to get the most from your Shimano Ep8 motor and Steve Jones is joined by some experts to share how! Some of these tips are the more obvious ways to benefit like tailoring your system to your preferences on the Shimano E-Tube app... but there are plenty of extra tricks that you may not have thought about in here too!
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@Twongo 7 ай бұрын

I've been watching a ton of mtb videos lately. There are a lot of exceptionally skilled riders making high quality videos these days. (Late 2023) The riders on this channel, especially Steve, just have something more. The others have chops, but these guys here have soul. They have all the chops too, but those skills are not the most important part of their focus. I think what I might be noticing and trying to say is, the other channels, which I have been learning a lot from, seem to be isolated on the moves and certain obstacles. Here at EMBN it about exploring, taking in the sights, enjoying your day out, and riding the very best you can. It's about mountain biking. I appreciate the personalities. Thanks, all!

@johnreese3762 3 жыл бұрын

Very good info, thanks for sharing. Tell Pete, I love Shimano!

@wsl5585 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. A lot to adjust to when going from a regular mtb to a emtb. Seems as though cadence and shifting cogs would be easy. I would never think to the drop the seat post when climbing. I move front to rear on the saddle or stand up, on my regular mtb, to make it up a climb. The error log is like OBD in cars.

@we.trippin 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the info. A agree that its a lot to adjust to when going from a regular dual mtb to a emtb. The cadence and shifting will need to get right. and I agree that I would never have thought to the drop the seat post when climbing. .

@cristoffeemons1553 3 жыл бұрын

The trails here are insane. I ride here once or twice a week. Full on gnar tech

@Mkkminimog Жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks! Michael

@johnjackson7162 Жыл бұрын

A great video. Thanks a lot.

@Hansnowayrey 3 жыл бұрын

EP8 is awesome, the software gives so much possibilities for custom setup to suit individual style and needs. And don't underestimate the shorter than usual 160mm cranks, great for technical terrain....

@thejohnson9204 2 жыл бұрын

Hold up... Is that really you Hans?? I have been a huge fan for more years than i would want to say out loud. Absolute legend brother. Rob from Australia.

@Hansnowayrey 2 жыл бұрын

@@thejohnson9204 yes Sir, check out what I've been up to on my KZfaq Channel

@alanstillwell4644 3 жыл бұрын

This is really excellent info! Been loving your channel, keep up the great work! Thumbs up from Arizona! P.S. that mud thing-what is that lol? Just dry and rocky here :-)

@steveharper4017 2 жыл бұрын

More interested to know how to eliminate the clunking when disengaged heading down the trail? There has to be something wearing out or undergoing fatigue when that's happening?

@MarkButterworth13 3 жыл бұрын

I think you will find that default profile 1 is the "controlled power" slightly lower usage. But profile 2 is the highest power modes by default.

@bradcrone2611 2 жыл бұрын

My understanding was the other way around?

@captainkette3411 3 жыл бұрын

This bike is one of the best on the market! Love it

@Cyberhosting777 Жыл бұрын

Works great/Easy install

@federaldelii 3 жыл бұрын

I like Japan and Japanese culture and technology very much 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 They make a lot of good motors and machines

@johnreese3762 3 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@mozzjones6943 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed! Yamaha are great company, Giants in motorbike industry.. And not bad in the ebike world ;) Their ebike motors technically may not be the best in the line up, But are serious work horses and reliable.. And you get more for your money at the lower end of their spectrum.

@bandolerox137 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there, can you talk about the handlebar height in an E bike?? i come from the XC to the new Neuron On all mountain bike, and that's my great doubt!!

@NDURcycling 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a posibility to show the exact percentage of battery on the small display? Or can i connect the motor to my wahoo element?

@JohnRushworth 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a way in the app to optimise output based on a typical ride using your average cadence for that ride? For instance across most of my rides my average cadence is 60 rpm.

@Yoda-em5mt 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve good info wish i could convince my riding buddy to buy a tyre gauge ha ha does that bike still come with 29 front wheel?

@kitesurfer1 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately some ep8 bikes come with the sc-e5003 display which is has no connectivity to the apps and requires a pc interface block which is impossible to get. Could you do a video on how to upgrade the display on these bikes.

@gigiazza67 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I have an emtb equipped with shimano EP8; so far only a couple of times I consumed more than three battery bars and I happened to end up directly at the red bar thus skipping the fourth .... did it happen to any of you too?

@marioribeiro6133 2 жыл бұрын

Is possible to adjust the overrun time? Thanks

@ianhorsekelly9144 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do the same on the app with the E8000?

@-n3v- 3 жыл бұрын

My older E8000 fully unlocked using older firmware is just as customisable and feels equally as powerful than my newer EP8. This isn't much of an upgrade in my experience. Emtb's are unafforadable for the average person, so going for a 2019 or 2020 bike with an older E8000 will save a lot of cash without losing any of the fun. Shimano purposely locked all the good software options so they can push the EP8.

@Extremegaz25 3 жыл бұрын

How do you fully unlock the e8000 motor are there videos?

@jonty3000 3 жыл бұрын

my E8000 failed after only 280 or so kms, luckily it was replaced under warranty... hate to think what shimano would have done warranty wise if they found it region or other unlocked??

@ianhill20101 3 жыл бұрын

Good call but these lot got sponsors to please so that wooden stick wont tell you the truth to save your coin and buy lasts years bike.

@-n3v- 3 жыл бұрын

@@jonty3000 My 2018 E8000 has done over 9000 miles now and i've never had a single problem with that. The E8000 are really reliable, but like anything you buy, you will inevitably get the odd duff one's.

@jonty3000 3 жыл бұрын

@@-n3v- thats good to hear, i hope this replacement e8000 gets me to the moon and back.

@kerianhalcon3557 2 жыл бұрын

I find 77ish cadence works well for my EP8

@marcosturaro6691 Жыл бұрын

BTW! Great analysis!

@embn Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so Marco!

@method1523 3 жыл бұрын

I like that bike stand at 1:15. Made of wood? :)

@scottcole9205 10 ай бұрын

Would be nice too see a video in regards to these motors failure rate and issues.

@damianluby8973 4 ай бұрын

Since I got my bike nearly two years ago, I have had two replacements (so my third motor)! Thankfully they were under warranty but that runs out soon, I think you get only two years warranty on the motor.

@rickross7719 2 жыл бұрын

Good vid. Been riding 20+ years but new to e-bikes. a lot to learn still about climbing. I found eco too weak and boost almost the same as trail mode. so I just made a custom profile that is so much nicer. I have ridden one with a Brose motor and it was nice too. but did feel a bit less sophisticated. more simple. As far as having less power goes I think shimano know what they are doing and could have made it 90 torque if they wanted to. maybe about life-span or just not blowing hub bearings like someone said below. definantly not limited by power on steep climbs so you don't really need more power. Would like the speed limit removed eventually but loving it so far.

@utid7144 2 жыл бұрын

I have just found on 1 of my profiles today while messing about..that trail mode and boost mode were set to the exact same specs on 1 of the profiles.. Im not sure if this is Shimano or bike producer doing this to the custom settings... Like you I made my own profile that suits me great.. I am going to do some testing between the default profiles and my own.

@rileygoesoutside Жыл бұрын

Any tips on settings and reasons why? I have messed around a bit, but left it mostly default. Only been on a few rides with my new ebike so far (this winter sucks!).

@thomasnielsen 3 жыл бұрын

Tip1: buy the Shimano EW-EN100. Tip2: remove the display and shifter. Result: super clean cockpit, without the things you may use 2-3 time on a longer ride.

@grasgreenfilms9496 3 жыл бұрын

what kind of jacket are you wearing here?

@colinpurves6411 3 жыл бұрын

Re the sizing comments below. Canyon would definitely size you as a medium as I am 6ft and that's what they told me. So an XL seems a big jump from what they recommend. I just bought the L and it feels fine so far. Makes me wonder if their sizing chart is incorrect?

@gorloff 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder why Bosch Performance Line CX motor owners can`t do the same, download and do the updates and tuning yourself? While no Bosch servicesenter is not close to you, what can you, you are stuck with a motor that can`t be updated.

@ericphillips9240 Жыл бұрын

How can I crack my EP8 RS to get full power?

@eldersammy100 3 жыл бұрын

Wish their app showed battery % the bars only on the bike display I understand , but not having that option in the apps is a bad call

@blindtrader4103 3 жыл бұрын

I use ST Unlocker App. Much better. Shimano app is useless.

@bobpoor6348 3 жыл бұрын

If they just had battery watts and wh/mi consumption remaining range should be easy to calc. The bar types are voltage based and subject to sag and are never very accurate. The whole "I got home with 25% battery left" is pretty meaningless actually due to voltage sag, especially down past 50%. Oh, and he was standing up on the climbs....

@Adutchmaningermany 2 жыл бұрын

I am 1,83m Do you recommend the new Spectral on in L (like my 2018 model) or XL like you have?

@UnimpressedAussie Жыл бұрын

large

@theforextraderevangelist7133 Жыл бұрын

I want to buy a EMTB based on the motor. I have tried the Bosch 4gen motor and it was awesome, Strong! That brings me to Cube. But I like other brands much better such as Canyon and YT. They offer much better suspension at the same price point as Cube. I have not tried the Ep8 motor but did try the previous generation and it wasn’t all that. I fear that the Ep8 is just a small upgrade of the previous motor. Can anyone help me shed some light on this. Bosch or Ep8

@toki2356 Жыл бұрын

I would say dont think so much about the Motor , there are all good and all Bring you easily to the top ! I ordert Last Week because of the Canyon Sale (and i Love the Canyon Bikes) an spectral on , normaly i want by my new Bike a Bosch but ep8 with 900wh is OK too 😅

@jeremybub 3 жыл бұрын

Steve, you are riding a XL? At 6 feet 183Mm tall Canyon recommends a medium for me, however 6 feet is in the cuff of the recommendation of medium and Large, & you are riding a XL, how does that feel? & why such a over size bike?

@molluscturtle 3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that. I’m 6’2” and I’ve a spectral :on in an L due any day now - I checked and spoke to a lady at Canyon and said I should have an L. An XL gives a nasty step over.

@timovolent3665 3 жыл бұрын

Do also a Bosch gen 4 motor

@jirex1 3 жыл бұрын

What size is this canyon on and what is your height please? What size would you recommend for 182 cm/88 inseam, canyin recommends M...? Thx

@kentbell6731 3 жыл бұрын

Steve said he is 6’ and the bike is XL, watch the vid again.

@jirex1 3 жыл бұрын

@@kentbell6731 for 6´ canyon still recommends M, so I do not get it, why he rode XL

@lovejoyantiques3961 3 жыл бұрын

E-TUBE ride needs an Apple Watch app so you can get rid of the display

@AnotherMrLizard 26 күн бұрын

The only trick to know with an ep8 is keeping the receipt for when the motor dies.

@Tomsfr 3 жыл бұрын

still using flat pedals :)

@porroco 2 жыл бұрын

You said in another video profile 2 is powerful and here tou said profile 2 is for wider ranger

@johndow14 3 жыл бұрын

the EP8 is a nice motor until you ride the bosch gen4, shimano is behind the rest of the competition this year.

@islandaerial3414 3 жыл бұрын

I've got a torqued up Gen 3. It keeps blowing my rear wheel bearings.

@melege100 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I fully agree with you. I had a Cannondale Habit Neo4+ with Bosch Gen 4 and moved to a Santa Cruz Heckler MX with the Shimano EP8. Shimano EP8 is a great disappointment unfortunately from every aspect. Santa Cruz is a fantastic bike, but the motor is much inferior compared to the Cannondale.

@krismeynaerts7418 3 жыл бұрын

Your are 6foot that is183 cm I’m 187 cm . Why is Canyon recommendation a Large for ours sizes as your driving an Xl ? Schould I gp for the XL?

@prettyjohnshill76 3 жыл бұрын

My advice to you is, ignore canyons sizing guide and go for the usual size you ride. I'm 6.2 and canyon recommend a large, which is way too small for me.

@PeterOravec 3 жыл бұрын

I'm riding Canyon Spectral:ON CF 8 and I'm like 178cm (based on their website I should have M) but I ordered L and it's perfect fit... my brother is 183cm and tried my L sized Canyon and he can live with that but better fit will be XL for him. Canyon sizing is weird, In your case I would go to XL,you can always return bike back and get another size.

@SuperTacticalcom 3 жыл бұрын

XL for a 6 footer. Weird. Canyon's size chart puts you in the top end of medium or the low end of Large. Their size charts are wonky.

@phantombigballs8165 9 ай бұрын

Think you have to size up

@YourAverageGuy93 3 жыл бұрын

I've just had a critical motor failure on my new Canyon Spectral On. Been out 3 rides, ~100k on a mix of road/woodland area. No mega climbs. Made a crunch then no assist. Sprocket spins and the motor whines but no assist. Walk mode only works when theres zero pressure on the bike. Hoping to have it sorted out Monday when Canyon reply to my email. Keen to hear if anybody else has had similar issues as I cant seem to find anything online other than Error code diagnostics

@ashleyscarth8363 3 жыл бұрын

If you get the e010 fault then I a new motor

@YourAverageGuy93 3 жыл бұрын

@@ashleyscarth8363 I'm not getting any fault codes. Updated motor on the app and still no fault codes

@ashleyscarth8363 3 жыл бұрын

Take it to Shimano service centre they sort it out

@phattgrooves 3 жыл бұрын

I am waiting for a reply from Canyon Spain. Last Wednesday I tried to go out with the bike but I could't because I got the error W101 on the screen.The sensor does't read the magnet of the rotor disc and the screen does't show the speed.But even so the bike assists the pedaling. When you imagine that you arrive at 25kms / hour the motor starts to make a strange noise like a creaking noise.I have a 2021 Spectral ON with more or less 100kms too.

@ashleyscarth8363 3 жыл бұрын

@@phattgrooves your best bet is Shimano service centre look on line you find your location services centre

@lilblaster22 Жыл бұрын

EP 8 deeznutz😮

@UnimpressedAussie Жыл бұрын

says not to stand up.... stands up.

@TheWeardale1 3 жыл бұрын

decent... just took delivery of a neuron:ON 8...

@catalinsiloci4002 3 жыл бұрын

How i can up mi Speed from EP.8 MOTOR FROM 25KMH TO 50KMH????

@DrM0lek 3 жыл бұрын

You’ll loose warranty...

@paulsweet6235 Жыл бұрын

i'm a heavy rider about 95 kg and max is too much and drains the battery quicker 😃

@PabloH Жыл бұрын

BIG LESSON: never forget or lose your passkey!

@mahon872 3 жыл бұрын

My short experience with the EP8 has sucked. Constant W101 errors codes meaning it will not provide and power. Seems unreliable, back to the store it goes to be swapped with a Bosch system

@mixalis6168 3 жыл бұрын

I so want a decent EMT, but they all cost more than my car !!!! WTF

@Teamcrapsheep 3 жыл бұрын

When considering a Shimano system remember when your 2 year warranty runs out on your £5k emtb if the motor craps out its not repairable, no parts are available so your motor is landfill. Not very sustainable and very expensive. You then have to buy a new motor and have it installed by Shimano service centre so you get the 2 year motor warranty, this costs £1000, now if you used your bike a lot the battery is getting a bit tired and ready for replacement another £700 so this may be a difficult decision. For this tis reason I’m now out. Don’t get me wrong Ebikes are great but only when in warranty. for some reason Shimano doesn’t want to make them repairable, and they allgo wrong at some point.

@chriskros8858 3 жыл бұрын

My Scott is out of warranty e8000 is derestricted and work's great. If motor will die than I wI'll install Bafang and larger baterry no more restricted e bike.

@phantombigballs8165 9 ай бұрын

Yawn

@simplesmartdental 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, great video as always. i would send you an E-mail but i don't find the address. its about a trip i did on the higest way on the alps with the emtb (36.000 d+ - 700 km) maybe you could be interest to have the videos and make a story on it. i've done a small trailer you can find on youtube crisonthealps. i've no time to make up a good video story...if you like i share all videos i've done in that days. in any case thanks for the job you do in your channel. cris

@iduebiker6123 3 жыл бұрын

firsttt!!

@ashleyscarth8363 3 жыл бұрын

E010 fault

@userbarny6271 3 жыл бұрын

Obvious, bad advertising for bad products from a bad company, never again Canyon products

@AnthonyM1 Жыл бұрын

Tips and tricks.......hmmm

@paulstamp1208 3 жыл бұрын

That motor was still powering you at the 25 limit,unrestricted is illegal Steve

@chriskros8858 3 жыл бұрын

And going 70 on road bike on the three times thinner tyres and poor brakes is legal...

@Stigsens1 2 жыл бұрын

It is illigal on public roads in Europe, but not offroad. But then, some trails dont allow more than 25kmh assist. But to say it is illigal is not exactly true.

@paulstamp1208 2 жыл бұрын

@@Stigsens1 it’s a motorbike in the UK so would not be allowed ,if Steve didn’t keep bleating on about legality of every thing I would not comment,so if I could add liars as we are fully aware they ride unrestricted bikes.taking derestictors off is not a five minute job on a lot of models so I doubt you would be dropping motors and the like every other trail to stay within the letter of the law,Chris has admitted he runs dererticted,Steve plays the straight man.people in glass houses should not preach to the masses.ARE YOU THE GOVERNMENT?…Love the show ,just stop the hypocrisy