*'Sorry Klei, I'm about to break your game again.'* This is the man that I live for.

UNLIMITED COSMIC POWER!!! itty bitty living space...

Breaking News: Local Man Makes Handheld Dyson Sphere

7:00 "but you know wat" That right there is a pun not intended

Causally creates a light source stronger than any star WE NEED MORE

Woo woo! The sound of entrophy losing his battle in ONI universe lol

No one: Brothgar: *EvErYthInG iS frEe eNeRGy*

"The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand"

that power meter mod you were thinking about is called "Power Sensor" and allows you to sense power produced and power used on a circuit.

Brothgar: Pacus. *_*wild cheering in the distance*_*

The only cost is considerable lag.

Friend: What is the name of that system? Me: oooWOOOOOOO

18:58 But you can still place another solar panel underneath the shine bug... That will make it more efficient.

I gotta say watching you play this has really made me understand this game in such a different light. "pun not intended" lol

There is an even more efficient setup where you utilize 3 solar panels and a single spot for shinebugs in between them. It's set up like a top down pyramid, just as your layout with the 2 solar panels and the shinebugs in between them, with a 3rd panel right below the shinebugs. This one is kind of hard to minmax, though, as the lower panel will get more out of the bugs than the other 2, but the whole setup can be stacked in all directions infinitely. Since it all only will cost glass and a little bit of metal, that's not much of a downside, though.

Now if only we had some soundproof walls! I know watt to do(digs out lower right portion of the map). To the dungeon with you shine bugs! The things we do in the pursuit of free energy.

I've always run a 3 solar setup with a critter lure in between them. 2 solar panels on each side and one below with the lure sitting one tile lower than two solar panels. Enclose around the whole setup but leave a waterlock so they don't get confined. Never tested how efficient it was though and I'm sure the box approach would help reduce late game lag. For counting them, I don't think you could automate it, but you can use the decor overlay to get a rough estimate. It will say something like "+300 Shine bugs (10) +270 Shine Nymph (9)" so you know there are 19 bugs in that area. Could possibly try to count egg shells from each box but you need to account for the ones in the box dying and laying another egg so don't know the best method for that.

The number of WOOWOO bloopers near the end caught me off guard

19:00 the single square setup is technically more efficient when accounting for shine bug count.

Btw your let’s play series gave me greater insight to the game and I love it! (Autodispenser as storage is an amazing idea Btw) ❤️ also a mod called piped electrolyzer is pretty sweet and you should try it.

Alright, this looks like a much better engine core for the dupollo.

If you mirror one box left-right you can have two boxes share one glass tile and space them closer with the water tiles on the outside, and let you put two boxes offset one from the center of each panel. Makes it more modular/scaleable. Might be able to use one pickup for the eggshells from each pair that way too...

I think wireless transmitter for energy would a good idea for something to be added to the game.

"Now go home and get your &$#%ing shine box." -Billy Batts

So I made an "automated shine bug sun power output detector/sensing system" with an automated power diverted to the main grid as each filled. It works, but it's soooo complicated, impractical and massive. Basically I used ceiling lights as a load to draw out a smart battery. The system goes through 4 phases(Charge, Discharge, Sense, Discharge) for a calibrated amount of time using 4 time of day clocks for control. Filling with shinebugs until the charge in the battery was above the set point during the "sensing phase" base off that clock. That signal went to an SR latch(memory toggle) cascade that each output controlled one auto sweeper that picked up the eggs from a mutually reachable container of lower priority and sent them to a loader that individually fed one of the shinebug suns. Out of that same cascade of SR latches, I controlled banks of disconnects to divert power and signals where they needed to go. I works, but it's probly better to find a mod or just watch the shinebug suns and when they fill up, just rerun the conveyors. This thing gets messy, and big really fast with all the power and signal diverting, and space for SR cascade and associated filters PLUS the power sensor. Not sure if it holds up at super speeds either. I did 5 solar panels, not fun. Another option, maybe use an SR cascade controlling autosweepers cycled through by a clock sensor each cycle, to fill one "sun" per day, maybe 6 at a time, then just re-run the conveyors when you notice all 6 are full.

~17:30 I thought you forgot the editing... so much Emotion ;) nice work!

7.6w was for 1 single only, this setup is easy scallable. You could put extra 2 or one solar panel underneath, to generate extra watts.

And it's getting closer together... *boom* it's a star!

Why don’t you have the shine bug box then a box of solar panels sourounding it? Maximum power?

I would suggest parking the arrays away from your base as the lag spike you could get from this could be enormous

oh, yes, enslaved sun.

At one point(and it might still be the case) for both shinebugs and pacu you don't need to feed or groom them tame. They would still drop an egg and continue on forever. You can use those air lures with phosphorous(that never gets consumed) to get a bunch of shines in a single area for free. The area can be open to the outside just fine if not in an obscure far away from the lure way.

There is only one name. The shining. HEEEERRRREE S JOHNNY.

LOL I always auto-slay every shine bug on the map within the first few cycles of a new playthough, when you have no way to ranch them, and no way to stop them floating thier way to your bedroom and disturbing the sleep of your 3 starter dupes, causing them to do stupid things like fall asleep exhausted while underwater or in a co2 filled room.....

Do not make LIGHT of the power if the shine bugs?

Oh wow I didnt know you can use them for that!!

Have you tried putting the solar panels on 3 or four sides? You showed it works from the side. Might it be more effective to just use more solar panels at the edge of the first ring since thats where the lux seems to drop off, to reduce the amount of scaling required on the conveyor system.

It's been 19 hours and I'm going through brothgar withdrawal! Lol I love your content and need my fix! Thanks for the videos, keep it up.

Great setup for minimizing the ranching effort of large populations. Also, great blooper reel in the middle. "Unlimited Free Energy!!!" I'm sure you could have found a few more ways to say it...

When you have your bugs on the edge some of the light is not used because there is not a solar panel to turn it to power

"Woo Woooaahhhooo" take 12 - 17:01

Make a critter feeder for Duplicants but with conveyers

19:00 I was also thinking that putting Panels in between shine-bugs would be more eficient, but because of the "stacking". You could try it once more with panel-bug-panel-bug-panel. As one isolated bug is not enough

At 20:43, you tackle the problem of too many eggs in the ranch, but try as I might, I cannot get a similar result. The auto sweepers clean out the room before the doors block access to the loader. It does not seem to matter which activates first, if the sweepers can access the loader, the doors cant stop them in time before they clear out the ranch. The autosweepers always seem to activate before the final hatch dies, so unless I get super lucky and lifespans are staggered just perfect, the result is a complete extinction for the ranch.

It would be most efficient to use the three shine bug spots, as you still only need two solar cells but have the same watt-per-bug as with only two. That saves you space and materials. You may even get 5 bugs with 7.95W in with three panels, gaining you two bug spots "more". Most watt-per-space and watt-per-panel efficient.

Woo-Woo! This is the sound!

place it between and one solar panel below. You only harwest half of the light potential this way. you can go up like 85%. So one hole 3 solar panel array. (bad it cant be flip over :D)

There is a way to detect the wattage of a power cable, there is a mod for that on the Workshop

i'd love it if we could get imgur links (or something) of the setup and power/etc overlays for these experiment builds!

i think you need to recalculate, with your final setup you had all the light over exactly 2 panels but when centering the shine bugs 1 cube can bleed light over 3 solar panels and if you have an array of 3 or more solar panels the efficiency will change

Power and decor for the cost of drecko poop I LIKE IT

Not exactly an earth-shattering amount of power but a constant base load of power to fall back to. You could tie your most vital systems that aren't self powering to it

18:53 Hi, you should put there 3 solar panel, one bellow and it shoud generate more energy! :)

If you were to use only one loader for the eggs and then a fork in the conveyor rails, would you be able to split the eggs evenly between the two "cages"?

dude just invented fusion energy

Your evil laugh at 6:18 xD

I think it'd be neat if he went for the later variants, since while they don't really do anything more than the sun bug, they do eventually lead into the abyss and radiant bugs which seem pretty awesome and I'd like to see a super dup base with super shinebugs. What's more is that he could just have them split off after a point without actually taking away from the main generator, build them up in another pen as.. I guess coral bugs? and then swap those ones to a diet to change them into Abyss bugs once he has enough. Of course.. I'm fairly aware that Radiant bugs are kinda costly to feed since I don't believe they eat the same stuff every other shine bug eats. But +200 decor.

*insert Emperor Palpatine UNLIMITED POWER meme here*

Could you use a critter sensor to move them over, perhaps? Since you know how many shine bugs you need per spot...

BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE! You can make the setup more efficient by taking the "cage between solar panels" setup and get a third solar panel under the cage. This way you will get more watts/shinebug and you will ne able to fit more shinebugs in without overstacking.

is it possible to set a critter sensor in the box? set it to 50 and sweep the eggs up to the next solar setup? it should also be stackable. From box A to B and from B to C and so on

Proximity critter sensor? Mod ideas. It would help with the automation here. That way you can shift it over automatically.

Now we need a mod to place solar panels around the shine bugs and build our own shine bug dyson sphere. :D

If you put a critter sensor in the box, will the water lock act as a wall? If not how many spaces can you extend the glass wall to accommodate all the shine nymphs without confined debuff for maximum power output.

So is it more efficient to have MANY shine bugs in the SAME tile? or many tiles spread out of fewer shine bugs? like what about some rediculous checkerboard of shine bugs and cram as many into light valid tiles as possible? more testing, but just the one array, I do like how well you're using the metrics to figure things out, the whole lux per bug.

07:02 Brothgar "You know what ?" Me : "Of course I know watt, I get you!" So watt ?! xD

15:32 How about moving the solar panel instead?

And thus... the Overcrowded attribute was born... which makes me glum

lmao idk I dont think my poor computer can handle all the adorableness that is 1000 shine bugs

More even lighting will help with the corner problem

i feel like minecraft could benefit from these lighting mechanics. having a maximum visible light level of 16 is good, but two torches one block apart should make an actual value of like 17 or 18 or some other product of an equation and count down with distance accordingly. that way if you have a circle of torches the area lit to 16 will be considerably larger than the puny distances we have now because the middle blocks will have light values of like 30

the broken corner is gonna become a trademark of the brothgar brand... like he needs to fuzz out the corner of the brothgar "B" in green stuff

I think I missed it, but how did you solve the Overcrowded Problem? When I tried this, they all stopped shining because of this.

with the shine bug in the middle you can put an extra solar panel under and get more power

Dont know why but after about 50 cycles they stopped emitting light..... I had about 230w on one of the panel, about 170 on the others and then they just stopped. Dont know what causes the problem.

Cam problems at 8 minutes was probably static build up which you discharged when you touched it. lol

Woo Woo, sun bug make your skin burn

...well that just sounds like slavery with extra steps.

Nice vid!

When you start maxing out your hi-watt cables

Hmmm interesting. Right now I am reliant on shine bugs for omelettes to get locavore. Feels like cheating - but not the only way Klei has changed the laws of physics.

wow .. another thing that's going to get fixed now ... thanks Brothgar.

Thumbs up for, "Mo Powa".

I think you forgot to calculate with your excel what happens when you put 2 bugs in 1 square and how much that is per bug. Considering that 2 bugs is better than three it might be this way. Because with all the bugs in one square the light doesn't fade from traveling before it can fuse (I think that's the same reason why the 3 bug setup is so bad)

... you could use this for farms and terrariums aswell can't you, saves you alot of power. (more than the light can produce?) Think of the savings and efficiancy! :D

So... How many to cap out a solar panel? Also it's not really breaking until you get the solar panel to give you more energy than it's normal max output.

Did anybody get the water lock to work in game? Mopping up the extra water spot removes all the water for me.

These builds are neat, but most are nearly impossible to do in survival in any orderly way, making them uneficient, resource hogs, and time/space consuming. where do you get unlimited phosphorite for a shine reactor?

what if you put a cage in between two solar panels and also place a panel under? would 3 panels per cage be better or...?

18:50 What if you put a third solar panel directly below the shine bug in that arrangement?

I recommend sunglasses to watch this video - and don't stare directly at the sun!

I kept trying to do this, but the shinebugs either move or stop emitting light! Ugh

You could add more panels to the side of the bugs and get more

great idea

Oh that ending XD

Is there a reason you don't just make the ranch floor glass and put panels under that? Food consumption?

Noise? HAH! I don’t play with sound.

Best example how humans treat animals for their benefits without considering their needs and wellbeing. Disgusting,

It just works!

Wouldnt the egg shells produce polluted oxygen over time?