"Adjust your angle of attack by 17 degrees to port and increase vigorousness by 23%. This is now acceptable".

Steve talking about sex on Star Trek? You coming in on my turf? *grabs my Ferengi sex energy whip* Ok, we're throwing down. Also... let me put forth... Raffi of Nine.

That romance between Seven and Chakotay just seemed very forced. There was no build up like there was between Chakotay and Janeway.

The idea of Naomi playing matchmaker is just so adorable.

I've watched Voyager in it's entirety at least three times and I still had to make a quick trip to Memory Alpha because I was SURE Samantha had been killed off and you were mistaken. THAT'S how hard the writers ignored her character.

Early in Seven's run, she did clearly state that she was not beholden to sexual mores, monogamy, etc. *at all*. It was a throwaway line that was actually quite effective, and between that and her perspectives on doing things for pleasure and enjoyment, it actually set up her sexuality in a way that was surprisingly effective for the show. But the subtext that's *always* lurking with Seven, even with her appearances in Picard to date, is that being assimilated is a deeply personal assault akin to long-term sexual assault. We never learn whether some body horror elements of assimilation include that as well (and we never should), but the conversation with Picard about regaining their humanity is so strongly tied to that it is impossible to ignore. Combined with her being assimilated at a young age, and for one I'm glad that they largely avoided putting Seven into a couple-I don't think the writers in the early 2000s would have been able to tell that story with respect and gravitas, to be honest.

I really wish they'd done more with Seven and Tuvok in terms of their friendship. You knew it existed, but they didn't have enough screen time together in my opinion. They were always great.

When you mentioned Pathfinder, I was hoping you'd pitch a relationship between Barclay and Seven. Now THEY would be quite an interesting couple.

It could have been so easy to pull a "born sexy yesterday" trope with Seven of Nine but they didn't and I am so proud of Voyager for that and basically nothing else. Except at least being more fun than DS9.

My god, this is hilarious. Laughing out loud at the description of Seven crashing the Doctor......

That fake ad had my dying. Well played, Mr Shives! Well Played!

The "fuck him to a blue screen" line cracked me up. Nice.

Never thought of Seven getting with Ensign Wildman, but honestly once that idea was presented to me it clicked as something that could work

Awww Samantha and Seven is a cute ship. They put that character to the side because they already had a ton of prominent adult characters, but I remember thinking she was nice. That’s a random twist I would have been okay with in late season 7 😅❤️

Doing literally anything with Samantha Wildman would have been good. I remember when the character first appeared that I thought it was good that characters started to get pregnant on the ship, given how long they expected to be gone. I think one of the notes Ronald D. Moore had for the show, that he talked about in his post-mortem essay was that there should have even been an order from the captain to start working on a replacement crew, since they at least expected to be a generation ship. Of course, given the nature of that order, it would be a pretty separate issue from what kinds of romantic relationships would be on the ship, especially since the idea of just one or two parents kind of goes by the wayside. It's a village raising all the kids. Therefore, a Seven/Samantha Wildman ship would be a fine suggestion.

You do realize that 'Seven of Nine' was named after the character "Rhoda" portrayed by Julie Newmar in the 1964 sitcom "My Living Doll" in which her role was that of a top secret Air Force project, a humanoid android robot, designated "AF-709". I was only seven years old. It was the very first time I saw Julie Newmar and I was completely smitten. The fact that she spent the entire first episode wearing nothing more than a towel clearly marked "AF-709" didn't hurt either. It was also the very first time I heard the term 'android' or 'computer' (she also originated the phrase "That does not compute"). I asked my dad what a computer was. He told me it was like a huge adding machine, but a whole lot more complicated. Almost a 'thinking machine.' But real computers are as big as a room. If she has one inside of her it must be almost impossibly small. I've been fascinated with computers ever since and just had to rush out and buy a Raspberry Pi as soon as it was released. The rest of the series was pretty silly, following the common sitcom formula of the day where our hero has a 'roommate' who's not a genie or a witch or a Martian but an actual robot! A few years later we finally got a Big antenna and could watch 'BatMan' like all the other kids, and there was my Julie Newmar again as CatWoman! Oh, fun fact: When the producers told her what they had in mind for her costume, she told them she had the purrfect material--she brought them the material to make the catsuit! Oh, Eartha Kitt was perrfectly excellent in the role as well, but my heart will always belong to Julie.

My favorite episode for seven, when I was a teen, was when she was in a uniform traveling through time. Showed she could be dressed normally. That had more appeal to me. Never thought to ship her with anyone.

On the topic of Seven and the Doctor, instead of going My Fair Lady, I'd have her basically decide "relationships are hard and no one on ship is interesting enough. But sex is fun, so I'll keep doing that" and just have her occasionally hook up with various crew, including the Doctor, for a night or two.

Seven and Raffi’s ship name is UNDOUBTEDLY Saffi, and there is no other correct option

I clicked on this ONLY hoping to find out what "shipping" is. Now I know. Thanks Steve. Also...Seven and Raffi's ship. USS Lesbos. What? It's a beautiful place on Earth! Deserves recognition.

Neelix trying to explain to Naomi that her mom and Seven are busy playing "Flotter and the Scissoring Wormholes" by themselves could've been a fun scene.

Steve's writing in this episode and the last one has been exactly on my comedy wavelength. I don't think I've ever heard blue screens and blue balls in the same sentence.

Dammit, Seven and Samantha Wildman?! That would’ve been very interesting to see in the real show. Also, yes I was a teenager too when Seven was introduced on the show and yes she is very attractive, but I personally always found B’Elanna more attractive. That Tom Paris is a lucky SOB.

Intentional comment BEFORE watching: When 7of9 joined Voyager, i was strictly opposed that. She seemed a desperate executive attempt of "sex sells" in my beloved trek universe. But writers and actress both proved me wrong. Voyager as a whole is a mess compared to, lets say ds9 and tng; but 7of9s story arcs are some of the best that voyager has to offer. Some of them are surprisingly deep and, dare i say it, great! I did not watch any spoilers to season2 of picard yet, but i enjoyed her addition to season 1. I would hope for more talking and less fighting in season 2, if it was up to me. edit: damn language barrier. i was not aware of the term shipping, it seems.

I’ve been a Seven/Janeway shipper for about 15 years, so, I appreciate the middle of this video

I was wondering when the anti-, Voyager barbs would come :p Also, that advert for Seven of Mine is *chefs kiss*

When Seven was willing to boink Harry and he fucked it up, I actually yelled IDIOT!

13:00 - How about this for interpersonal conflict, sexual tension, AND getting a little different about it: Seven and the Doctor are an item, and one of the things they get off on most is them becoming one person like in Body and Soul (only with a lot more mutually understood boundaries for their shared body). Some of the crew don't approve, some don't care, and some get REALLY uncomfortable when the two-in-one start looking for someone to join them when they're together. It can be like Tuvix only Janeway gets waaaaay more uncomfortable talking to them about how she needs both of them doing their jobs separately. 16:00 - The Janeway holonovel thing can go sideways when Seven goes through the entire thing, isn't very interested, and then drags Janeway through her own holonovel - being a Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix 01 so Janeway can learn what it was like for Seven while Seven learns human behavior from Janeway.

This has got to be your best video. I haven't laughed out loud so much at watching a video that was made about Star Trek. You've got an excellent sense of humor, Steve. This was great. Thank you.

Come for the Vulcan Fuck Fever, stay for the amazing "Seven of Mine" intro. 10/10.

“Vulcan ****-fever.” Love it. Great stuff Steve.

I never understood why they got Seven with Chakotay? WTF?

Honestly, I always thought that it would make sense for Seven to join Tom and B'elanna as a throuple. As a person with Borg implants she would have the strength and regenerative abilities to withstand anrgy, half-Klingon sex and give Tom some chance for his bruises and bones to set. And also, someone who he can cry in the arms of with only a minimum of contempt from, as Seven might think this is all normal.

I always found the idea of Seven hooking up with anyone a bit of an ethical quandary. She went into the Collective when she was like, 8 years old, iirc? When she’s first liberated, a huge part of her arc is that she obviously lacks any of that emotional development of someone her biological age. She seems to be an example of the “born sexy yesterday” trope, to an extent. Is she really able to give full sexual consent? As time goes on and she develops that emotional maturity, a sexual relationship seems more ethical, but where is the point that it became okay?

I know Seven is bi but she has such strong wlw energy to me. My favorite ships of her are always with other women. I look forward to seeing where her thing with Rafi goes

21:36 You missed a great opportunity: "I wasn't too sure about the pairing of Seven and Samantha, or Sevantha, as I've just decided *their collective* shall be known"

I cannot believe what a great ship we landed on. I'm an old time M/M shipper, but this the first F/F ship that felt both right and obvious as soon as I heard it. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I love the idea of Sevantha, but when I heard "Seven of Mine", I instinctively booed at my screen. Loudly.

This video made me laugh out loud more than anything you’ve ever done before. Kudos Mr Shives. 😊👍

What's kinda cool is that shipping, Fanzines and Fanfiction started with the Star Trek Fandom in the late 60's. Kirk and Spock are the OG's in that department, AND in the sense of being (probably?) the first instance of two heterosexual men being shipped together. All of this stuff STARTED with Trek, and then just branched out into fandom as a whole years later.

I love how this just became a rant about your problems with My Fair Lady halfway through.

Oh God - Seven of Mine...that's gold based on the title alone!

Samantha's husband wouldn't have to go through a divorce if he already had her declared legally dead after Voyager had disappeared for several years.

Seven/Samantha has been written in a complete four-part story covering season four through seven and is amazing. it partially tackles a lot of episodes, tackles the issue of how the borg episodes really made the borg a badly-written villain that got dumber with each appearance and making it literal canon in the story... and also includes reference to some comic adventures including a crossover with Doctor Who, where the borg teamed up with the Cybermen or something and the latter left a virus behind because the cybermen dont want the borg, trek's version of the cybermen, to win.

Aw, man! See, I'm a filthy Seven/B'Elanna shipper. They're clearly a match made in the same quality of hell that the Voyager writers' room is.

I had to google what shipping was. It all makes perfect sense now. "Shipping (derived from the word relationship) is the desire by followers of a fandom for two or more people, either real-life people or fictional characters (in film, literature, television series, etc.) to be in a romantic and/or sexual relationship."

"..talking about movies they know because of Tom Paris." made me unintentionally snort 😂

The “riding like an Appaloosa” (paraphrase, sorry) line made laugh so hard it interrupted my feeding the cat. He didn’t appreciate it, but I commend you-that is some gold star humor! This whole vid is a fabulous snarky piece, well done.

Don’t forget about the season 7 episode “Body and soul” where the doctor literally had inhabited and controlled Seven’s body. You know he was thinking to himself the whole time “oh boy, the things I could do here!” Little holographic pervert

I really love Seven and Janeway as characters separately. It annoyed me the show kept trying to hook them up with the most boring character on the show. Brannon Braga once said he purposely made Chakotay underdeveloped/underwritten because the actor annoyed him. It was weird they kept trying to put him with the two female characters the show cared the most about.

My ship for Seven would be Vorik... the Vulcan that tried to get it on with B'elanna. Seven had limited emotional range and got along with Tuvok because she had an appreciation for his unemotional style. Vorik was a Vulcan who could share some of that with her. But he was actually more open to human stuff than Tuvok. He socialized with the humans of the crew w/o being forced like Tuvok. So he's a nice in between Vulcan detachment but more accepting of humanity. By the time the show ends, Vorik is about three years away from his next pon farr. For his first one, he waited until the last minute to make his move on B'elanna. Logic would dictate that he starts making plans a lot earlier for his next one. He could have been trying to lock Seven down during the last two seasons. When his next Pon Farr rolled around he'd be ready.

The romcom ad sent me. You laid out the mental gymnastics of shipping fix-its with the pettiness of someone who has spent more time on wattpad than they are willing to admit.

Growing up, I wanted to see a relationship between Kim & Seven develop, partially because I could see so much of myself in him. I could see Seven helping Tuvok during Pon Farr, because of their mutual respect and friendship. Samantha Wildman was wildly underutilized in the series - that always bugged me.

Holy shit man. I've had to pause this a dozen or so times to catch my breath. This one has made me laugh so hard I'm crying! THUMBS UP!

The second Janeway premise is adorable.

Bro, you should be on the writing staff for everything Star Trek. I'm serious, yours are better than the original ideas.

Chakotay didn't have no hobbies. He just had a different one every episode. Probably determined by dice roll.

"Seven of Mine" > < my heart melted, you're really good at shipping it turns out.

I assume you're aware that George Bernard Shaw, who wrote the play that My Fair Lady is based on, never wanted Eliza and Higgins to end up together, and in his original version of the play, they do not, for exactly the reasons you state. But theaters kept staging the play with a "happy ending" that Shaw never wrote. He hated it, but audiences ate it up, and that's the version that got adapted into the musical.

Naomi: Flotter, can I ask you a hypothetical question Flotter: that is always a good idea

"...collectively known..." Well played sir. Well played.

"Seven of Mine" should be a Hallmark movie!

I feel like Steve underestimated how many of his fans will suggest Voyager videos. :p

The added imaginary legal minutiae is brilliant; & makes sense in universe. Also for fan fiction sake let's add the detail that Samantha's ex husband had to get this sketchy Ferengi divorce because she had been declared dead & he had already remarried but the sudden revelation of her survival had thrown the legality of said marriage into a legal limbo.

I paused the video right before the reveal of the last potential ship to think of which crew members hadn't been covered yet, and for a brief, terrifying moment, all I could think was, "Don't say Neelix don't say Neelix don't say Neelix don't say Neelix...."

Seeing as the Intrepid Class is (on paper at least) a science vessel I was kind of confused that Samantha wasn't one of the senior staff. After all in pretty much every episode with something sciencey happening in the main plot there's Samantha in her little alcove on the bridge spouting technobabble.

For the last one, I think some tragedy is need, enter the Dominion and that's how Samantha and her husband's marriage would end; literally have him be killed in the Dominion War. I say this, because I feel like emotions stemming from loose rather than anger could serve the potential story to be told better. Seven lost her parents in a violent manner, so it could help them connect, having a similar, but different loose occur for Samantha (BUT do NOT hurt Naomi - plus we need someone to get it going).

This is my new Seven ship, I’m not even joking

Between Sevmantha and Shaynor (Mass Effect fandom for those unfamiliar with the ship name) I seem to be drawn to ships where one partner is named Samantha. Not sure where that comes from, I don't know if I've ever known a Samantha in real life let alone one who left an impact on my psyche. Edit: Oh, BTW I was a bit surprised to learn there's a segment of the fandom that would've liked to see Lt. Chapman come back and him and Seven to continue.

My alternative Seven relationship: Tom and B'Elanna. During the episode where aliens are doing invisible experiments on the crew and B'Elanna and Tom are going at it like rabbits, an orgy breaks out and the couple are introduced to the commanding yet tender styles of an ex-Borg. Afterwards B'Elanna realizes that, although she loves Tom she finds his lovemaking nice but ultimately unsatisfying and broaches the subject to him. He isn't sure, but agrees to a trial if Seven is amenable. Seven, for her part, hs been feeling awkward after the experience, not knowing how to reconcile the event with continuing to treat Tom and B'Elanna as mere crewmates. The relationship between the three grows beyond sex with each complementing the others. Seven feels like she can be more open with B'Elanna than anyone has been and they have long talks together. Tom and Seven's relationship is less close, though they both do love each other and are seen consoling each other when B'Elanna is missing on the crashed Delta Flier. The Unimatrix story arc gets a bit rough at times with Seven's feelings for her ex returning, but the three of them talk it over and B'Ellana still volunteers to be assimilated because she wants to help Seven. Tom is more accepting of this reasoning than he is in the real episode. The Borg didn't have any use for reproductive organs so Seven can never get pregnant, even so, she is ecstatic when B'Elanna gets pregnant. Seven is better able to talk B'Elanna out of genetically altering the fetus. Happily ever after. Or something, I dunno, I don't think I could be a romance writer.

"Vulcan fuck fever" that got me to the floor. 😂🤣😂🤣😂

I love how Tim Russ (Tuvok) was also in Space Balls and said the iconic line, “We ain’t found shit!”

My god Steve, you are such an evil genius! The folks who write star trek need to hire you

Cool, so now, i won't ever be able to watch the episodes featuring Flodder again and not think of this. Thanks Steve. 😲

So glad I'm not the only person who was confused by the fact that none of Voyager's former-Maquis crew members seemed to face any legal consequences when they reached Earth. I've always thought the series finale should've been a quieter, more dramatic episode finally resolving THAT conflict (and promoting Harry!), but I guess I shouldn't have expected anything better or more nuanced than what we actually got. Same goes for the whole "Sevantha" idea, which would've been great.

If he wasn't killed off, post-meld Suder could have been an interesting pairing with Seven. Even not sexual it could have been interesting seeing them both pursue and discover their humanity together.

IIRC, Jeri Ryan and Robert Beltran wanted Seven and Chakotay to start showing signs of that relationship growing. In the last few episodes the idea was set up but produces told them explicitly "No, absolutely not! Not even subtext!" then in the last episode "Okay, now kiss" The producers really said "We can't end this show with character development"

Chakotay's bachground in anthropology was established early in the series and then just kind of forgotten. Kind of like Samantha Wildeman actually...

Sevantha was the best you could do? Wildseven is right there! Or if you're more adventurous, Seven Gone Wild.

I really really wish they hadn't screwed up the Doctor/Seven pairing. They had actual chemistry during that episode, and the writers chose to throw that away for a cheap emotional beat.

"There you go. You f*cking nerds." You know, Steve, you don't gotta call me out like that, lol.

The explanation for 7 taking the lead with Janeway is both realistic, and hilarious.

"Seven of Mine", and this is how VOY got an eight season.

Happy birthday Brian

To be fair, Garret Wang was named one of the 50 most beautiful people by People magazine back in ‘97.

Holy crap, when I started this video I was actually thinking Samantha Wildman and 7 would have been an interesting pairing. Well, actually I was thinking "that little-girl-with-the-horns-on-her-forehead's mom" I had forgotten both character's actual names, but I agree with Brian(Bryan?!) Damn... That ending tho... Lol...

You forget that Seven and The Doctor had a kid together.

Weren't the Maquis (or at least those on Voyager) all pardoned at some point (I think this was a result of the Dominion War)? I don't think Chakotay would need to spend any brig time on getting home. PS. I have no trouble believing Ferengi Lawyers would be happy to initiate one-sided divorce proceedings. For the right amount of Latinum, of course.

Nice. I particularly enjoyed the last story. It had a great ending. I'm down for it.

Actually, I believe that in US (and likely Federation) law, a divorce can be filed due to estrangement. Such as one spouse being stuck on the other side of the Galaxy for YEARS with no contact. Heck, he could have just assumed she was dead long before then and moved on without the need for divorce due to her being presumed dead. Which I believe many people assumed of the Voyager crew after their disappearance.

Love the TV's Frank reference. You are always bringing the deep MST3k references.

It’s hilarious to think of New Zealand as the Federation penal colony. Samantha is also married.

This video took an unexpected turn that I didn't think I'd love half as much as I do.

I've always felt that Data & 7 is the Best Ship. They could've explored new found humanity together for a lifetime. And were shortchanged a TNG/DS9/VOY Teamup Story that felt Necessary!!

OK, we need to go back in time and get a Seven of Mine spin off series.

I never understood the attraction to her myself, but definitely identified with some of the stories about her that could be taken as an analogy for some of the struggles I've had with my autism brain 😅

I'm glad you mentioned that whole thing with Seven and Harry first. Feels like it would've been a crime otherwise. And to grossly oversimplify whether or not it would've worked, we have seen a similar dynamic in another franchise. The medium that brought them together is different, but relationship-wise it worked out nicely.

Seven and Harry have something else in common... 8472. Seven hates them because they slaughtered Borg. And Harry isn't comfortable around them because they almost devoured him alive....

Seven of Mine ..... pure gold

A possible Samantha/Seven previous conection; Seven had to mommy those borg kids for a bit. She'd need some parenting advise. Going to an actual mom (instead of a Captain or Uncle) would make sooo much sense!