He died from fapping on the plane💀

Exactly Exactly

watching this in real time was heartbreaking when she said that with her voice going high wrecked me

She says "dont please, not now" they were at war with him and they learn his death from the hands of Tom, they cant reach him phisically as well since he was in the plane. Such a tragedy and irony, just amazing writing...

@@FablesOutofSpace Not now also implies that all these 3 kids ever wanted was approval/validation from their dad. Not now meaning we are just about doing something and we will be back to you, its only a matter of time.

@@naumaanhamid anddd also that she was pregnant and he'd never know. Later in episode 4 she says something to Tom along the lines of "he won't be here to rock his grandkids to sleep" which is just... UGHHH

It's also showing that deep down, Shiv is still daddy's little girl. There's an indication that Shiv is his Logan's favorite since she's his only daughter but Shiv failed his test many times because of how her arrogance, proud, and too much gaslights as Shiv mostly wants to play safe and likes to double cross everything.

Another moment that perfectly illustrates that is when they're all sitting down and she asks "why didn't you come get me?". Her voice is so child-like, she seems so... small and broken. Unreal.

@@camilleamaral when

@@towel1636 it's in a different moment of the episode, the 3 siblings are all sitting together

I believe that Shiv embodies everything Ivanka Trump is and will face in real life.

@@camilleamaral they all regressed - this scene was so masterfully performed and carried out all the way through the end of the series. Beyond words - especially for those who lived out something like this. Terribly authentic.

Well she admitted later in the episode that she said mom because she was kind of hoping it was mom and not dad. Her dad means so much more in her life than her mom ever could, and that even means from a place of love. Not just financially and emotionally and all the rest. Her dad dying is 1000 times more devastating to her than her moms passing ever could be.

@@jodythomas4324 also explains a lot about shivs personality. Girls are usually closer to their mothers and yet shiv is almost wishing it’s her mom and feels ok to voice it. You can see the damage of not having a female role model in everything she does, how she speaks etc.

She later said it's because she'd rather something happen to her mom than her dad

@@jodythomas4324 Yeah I think both of your points are very accurate and true.

@@jenkins5265 Shiv isn’t almost wishing it’s her mom, in that she hopes something bad happened to her, she just hopes it’s her mom over something bad happening to her dad. Girls with male siblings are famously closer to their fathers and have a weird relationship with their mothers. It just so happens in this case that both of her parents are assholes.

When he said “I don’t know honey” that was so beautiful just by itself. All that’s going on, it’s not so much he even wanted to say it but he knew she needed that in that moment, just a small gesture even as it was.

@@jodythomas4324 Tom still loves Shiv in spite of everything.

Right?

That’s the point?)

@@Christina0925yeah they just acknowledged it

4*

​@@Akneerude lol, Connor constantly forgotten, even by the audience

Look its a great performance, but there are many other TV shows, with many other performances.. if the Emmys were following audience rhetoric they would have to give out 1000 Emmys lol

@@Fondrom this was shot in one long scene and largely done in one continuous take. Its an incredible performance through and through. I really don't think there will be many competitors to the final season of succession.

@@ddawg3974 Go onto any TV show on KZfaq, scroll down and you'll find a comment like this lol

this scene is almost 1:1 with my siblings when our mother passed away. similar situation, similar reactions, similar emotional devastation. this is a very powerful scene.

@@bzoidbergI hope you are doing okay

big brother talk, for sure 😢

wait where does he say honey? I didn't hear it

@@lakshmi4224 he comes up to her and says “Shivvy, honey”

@@sonchik6324 oh when he first finds her to tell her?

@@sonchik6324 She knew immediately. Just the look on his face and the "Shivvy honey." That's nuclear news.

i had my suspicions when I was watching the scene unfold so it was nice to get confirmation from mylod!

We all wished for that, didn't we?

LOL, I needed that! 😂

lmao

Lmao 🤣 Stahp I was shedding some tears and this made laugh.

Same, I saw spoilers so I was expecting his death, everyone in the show is pretty terrible so I never saw myself fucking crying like a baby over someone else crying, bravo to all the actors but specially to Sarah, they portrayed loss to perfection

Here after episode 4. Incredible writing.

She made me cry like a baby, it felt like I lost my own father. I really felt Shiv's pain.

Sarah will definitely get either an Emmy nomination or a win.

And the "not now" makes so much sense when you realize she already knew she was pregnant. :(

wait where does he say honey? I didn't hear it

@@lakshmi4224 00:07 where he tries to be nice towards her before unleashing the bomb🥲

Why?!

​@@Christina0925Because it's a great acting choice that helps convey the character's shock, confusion, and increasing sense of helplessness?

Because she nails the experience of grief. Not sure why a why needs to be asked. I lost my brother in law 2 days ago and I can say how authentic this performance is. The trembling hand. The quivering voice. The deep pain and anger and ambivalence of love and betrayal. Extraordinary actress. Come on Sarah one Globe down, one emmy and sag to go

And also the tough exterior of 4 seasons regresses into a little girl just wanting her daddy's love

HOLY, Sarah's smile with her EYES, just... WOW.

5 stages not 7? Agreed. Deserving of every possible award

Yet she walks away. Like the feelings of betrayal and distrust immediately set back in for her, and the moment of comfort ends.

@@KennethTakanami Yep, and literally the next day they’re more or less back to their old dynamic.

That was Sarahs choice

She said I can't have that before she heard his voice.

Sorry for your lost :( I hope your dad was not like Logan Roy. That guy is very, very abusive. That scene with with all the kids is heartbreaking because deep down, the kids all love him. I can't say the same for Logan because I felt like, all he loved was himself.

@@fearless6947 thankfully my dad was a very good man who myself and everyone in his life loved so much. Ironically enough though, he kind of resembled Logan physically in a lot of aspects. Same facial hair. Haha. But thank you for your kind words. ❤️

@@frankshavers7840 that's good 👍

I lost my dad January 2021, so I relate to this scene and you a lot

I’m sorry for your loss. My dad died while I was in another hospital, very sick and unable to be there. I had nothing but phone calls from family to keep me posted as they turned off his machines. While watching this, I wept (hard) from the first phone call pretty much to the end. 12 years had passed but whoops, here’s some unprocessed trauma ready to rise to the surface. I’m crying now, watching this, remembering trying to say one more goodbye over the phone. The helplessness is crushing.

It really is a extraordinary, powerhouse performance

I always thought Romulus was the youngest.

​@@Jason8823 surprisingly no

@@Jason8823 in my headcanon shivy and romey are fraternal twins idc

@@Jason8823 That's probably because he's the youngest boy and she's the only girl. He got to kind of functionally be the youngest

wait WHAT, i thought roman was the youngest 👁️👁️

4? what are the other 3 after best supporting actress

@@myong2206 Was a turn of phrase buddy

@@BatmanHQYT sksksks i had a feeling

Forever? Really?

@@michaelshaffer3393 Yeah -- you got a problem with that?

Sorry for your loss

Nooooo! 🙈 omg I’m so sorry for your loss 🌹

I still think Kendall is his favorite. I think ad the only girl he’s naturally more decent towards her and less threatened by her. I think we finally see him cause her being brought into the fold is the the last of the 3 to confirm what we now know is true

@@rhondac.891 what makes you think Ken is his favourite?

Shiv was the one with the nickname, I think she was Logan's favorite.

@@Chibbykins I mean he kind of told us more than once both directly to Ken and to others the best way Logan knows how 😂 Also, on a more analytical level, I think the kids naturally mirror their godparents and the relationship dynamics can inform us how Logan views his children: -Ken/Frank is who Logan is the hardest on & who he has the most tension with over the years, but we saw how Logan reacted in his state of delirium when he thought someone was being mean to Frank and we saw how Logan reacted when he thought Ken was in danger during the lockdown. Despite his rivalry with both Frank and Ken that’s who he has a special relationship with and why he keeps bringing them both back into the fold despite the betrayals. -Shiv is like Gerri as in she’s a woman and she’s also a strong person that Logan can trust and count on consistently, and like Gerri I don’t think he always appreciates Shiv value because she’s still just a woman. However, it’s easier for him to have a relationship with Shiv & Gerri for this very reason throughout the years because they don’t intimidate or pushback with hostility, or at least they didn’t for many years. -Roman is 100% like Karl (I know it’s not confirmed that he’s Roman’s godfather but I think it’s fair to deduce this since he’s second in Logan’s henchmen group and Roman was born second) IMO in how they appear as sycophants for Logan’s acceptance and approval despite the fact that they still provide a true valuable asset to Logan. However, Karl & Roman are the ones who bend to Logan will more naturally & are compliant & essentially going along to get along. Out of his 3 henchmen I do believe he was closes to Frank and same goes for Ken.

@@Nefelena again, I think it’s just cause she’s a girl. Even the brothers refer to her with affectionate names

Connor's mom is not Caroline (Shiv, Roman, and Kendall's mom). At some point Logan had Connor's mom put into psychiatric care and abandoned Connor. In an interview Alan Ruck has said that Connor's mother has died. I think that's about all we know.

Fr

Nah you gotta watch the show

Its a must-watch and it hits even harder when you know the context

Soon we will find out if it does

She got the Emmy!