SHOGUN Ending Explained!

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Think Story

Think Story

21 күн бұрын

In this video we take a deep dive, review, recap, and breakdown the ending to FX/Hulu's epic SHOGUN based on the novel by James Clavell.
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@ThinkStory
@ThinkStory 19 күн бұрын
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@danieladusei1993
@danieladusei1993 19 күн бұрын
Think story u need to do more video and your voice sounds like a robot looool😂
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 19 күн бұрын
idk, about the dream, mariko's medal wasn't unique, in fact I imagine the Portuguese priest would give her one fairly common back in his homeland. Plus, we come back to the dream, it's more than one scene. And when have you ever dreamed yourself to be very old? No dream I ever heard of includes the dreamer being old. Perhaps the scenes are meant to be ambiguous. You can think of it as a dream if you want. Maybe?
@rebel.taylord
@rebel.taylord 19 күн бұрын
I want a season 2 buddy comedy, set in an alternate universe where Yabushige and John have their own adventures in London 🤣
@blas3266
@blas3266 19 күн бұрын
Someone needs to do this atleast with a fan comic or manga, and I will support it 100% 😂😂😂
@SeanF374
@SeanF374 19 күн бұрын
This would be great! John and Yabushige go on the piss!
@CruzR1111
@CruzR1111 19 күн бұрын
Brilliant idea. Rodriguez needs to be in it too! He was so funny. 😂
@marquislovett2987
@marquislovett2987 15 күн бұрын
Now that world would be hilarious 😭😭
@paulorocky
@paulorocky 8 күн бұрын
Giri Haji?
@jool7793
@jool7793 19 күн бұрын
The women in this show are tough ladies. I love how Ochiba plays the innocent little girl while having all the power.
@unwokeneuropean3590
@unwokeneuropean3590 19 күн бұрын
Toranaga as well seemed as the victim... till he was proven as the ultimate bad guy with all the plans in his favor.
@deadbutmoving
@deadbutmoving 19 күн бұрын
Many Westerners are unaware but, this is how Asian women are. When Asians see how Westerns fetishize and stereotype Asian women as subservient and mellow, we laugh to ourselves thinking "These people have no idea what they're up against".
@user-bu9sp6kk7q
@user-bu9sp6kk7q 17 күн бұрын
@@unwokeneuropean3590thats the beauty of the finale for me. Its the grand reveal that he has manipulated almost everyone around him into getting what he ultimately wanted.
@blaster42008
@blaster42008 17 күн бұрын
It ruined it showing him for who he really was. He sacrificed alot of loyal, faithful followers for no reason.. for a plan of the heir to not bring his army and therefore Ishido will be fighting an illegal war and the other regents will stand aside. Mariko was best friends w the heirs mother and Taranagua didn't use it to bring the heirs mother into a marriage w himself.
@blaster42008
@blaster42008 17 күн бұрын
The women are amazing. Such strength and resilience and honor to family
@travisspazz1624
@travisspazz1624 19 күн бұрын
A war drama isn't always about fighting said war, but preventing it. It can also be about loving the women around you and pulling your ship out of the water with your new homies!
@marcwells5653
@marcwells5653 19 күн бұрын
This is perfect😭😂
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
Agreed, this show is about a psychopath leader who loves killing his own people. Note that the only people Tarananga killed was his closest allies and closest friends. He's clearly the enemy in this show. He even burns down people's ships for his own amusement.
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 19 күн бұрын
The war wasn't prevented. He just made it so he has more numbers on his side in the upcoming battle.
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
@@MustardSkaven you don't know that. The flash forward was simply a day dream in this psychopath's head
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 19 күн бұрын
@@SutterKrump We know the war happens cause it's in the book.
@rvheem7702
@rvheem7702 19 күн бұрын
You missed how Kashigi Yabushige almost committed sepuku on side of the cliff in the water (ep 1 I think) and now successfully commits sepuku and falls in the water (episode 10). There’s a lot of full circle
@Calinotch06
@Calinotch06 19 күн бұрын
yes
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
In the water he did it on his own volition. This time he was ordered to commit suicide because of a psychopathic leader who kills his own people and friends and who loves burning down ships.
@rvheem7702
@rvheem7702 19 күн бұрын
@@SutterKrump You can look at it like that, or you can say both are his own doing… He brought both situations on himself by being led by his ego, pride and lust for power but not being able to play the game…
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
@@rvheem7702 and when will we be notified whether or not this "master strategy" of killing his own people worked? All we have to go on is the day dreaming of a psychopathic "leader" who killed zero enemies and who slaughtered his own people. Me personally I don't think it'll work out
@unwokeneuropean3590
@unwokeneuropean3590 19 күн бұрын
also Yabushige was sitting on the wooden throne while John was on his knees.... in the last episode Toranaga was sitting there and Yabushige was on his knees.
@cameronrolle7655
@cameronrolle7655 19 күн бұрын
Taronaga playing chess while everyone else was playing checkers, using his Queen, Bishop and Knight to achieve his ultimate goal. The Art of War
@xczechr
@xczechr 9 күн бұрын
Who?
@pewdiepiipewwie2904
@pewdiepiipewwie2904 8 күн бұрын
​@@xczechr he was speaking about ishido
@user-SubvurzIV
@user-SubvurzIV 19 күн бұрын
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting". -Sun-Tzu Torunaga embodied that perfectly. He sacrificed as few pieces on the board as possible and ensured their deaths all served a greater purpose. The other members on the council of regents threw away the lives of their subjects like they didn't matter and gained nothing from it.
@s4usea
@s4usea 19 күн бұрын
The Producer who also played Toranaga has said there will be no second season. In another interview when pressed he scoffed at the reporter who asked and said, "you do know it's based on a book?" UPDATE: On 5/10 Sanada announced that he changed his mind and will begin the process to bring a Season 2 of Shogun to FX, either as a limited mini-series, or a dramatic series with follow-on seasons. If you believe that the original part of what I posted here was wrong, take it up with him. It's what he said.
@desultorilypanacea
@desultorilypanacea 19 күн бұрын
If that's true why didn't they say it was a limited series? That's what you do if your not making a season two.
@s4usea
@s4usea 19 күн бұрын
@@desultorilypanacea because FX isn't Netflix. Despite the click-baiting Hollywood dream-merchant press, a search on what "Sanada says no second season Shogun" pulls up is persuasive, esp when you consider that besides playing Toranaga, Sanada was the show's producer who took care of the money and Japan-side of the series. As such, I'm going to take him at his word on it, even if it's disapointing to the fans of Shogun.
@s4usea
@s4usea 19 күн бұрын
@@desultorilypanacea do a search on "sanada says no second season of shogun" and decide for yourself.
@s4usea
@s4usea 19 күн бұрын
​@@desultorilypanacea do a search on "sanada says no second season of shogun " and decide for yourself. Along with being Toranaga, he was the producer that took care of the Japan-side of the series, to include the money over there.
@s4usea
@s4usea 19 күн бұрын
@@desultorilypanacea do a search on "sanada says no second season of shogun" and decide for yourself.
@cosmic2750
@cosmic2750 19 күн бұрын
I’m absolutely satisfied with not having a S2. The ending is perfect. Shogun is not about the Battle of Sekigahara, it’s the story of how Toranaga won that battle before swords were ever even drawn. And for that direction, the ending was perfect. And I honestly couldn’t have asked for a better ending.
@davepost7675
@davepost7675 19 күн бұрын
As much as I loved the show, I don't want them to extend it making a second season.
@ibrahimguel90
@ibrahimguel90 15 күн бұрын
Same, I loved this show, but continuing most likely would mean making the show worse and worse, so I think this ending is perfect
@peripatetic6356
@peripatetic6356 15 күн бұрын
They should make Tai Pan into a series
@tiberianexcalibur
@tiberianexcalibur 14 күн бұрын
I was just not satisfied with the quiet ending that did not feel like an ending.
@mikkifarmer9626
@mikkifarmer9626 19 күн бұрын
Shogun was an amazing mini-series for Hulu. It was a well put together production and the characters were magnificent. I see possible Emmys in this show’s future.
@dmacleod3843
@dmacleod3843 17 күн бұрын
Shogun was not a Hulu show. It was produced and funded by FX. Hulu just showed it.
@Ter9393
@Ter9393 16 күн бұрын
The last episode was awful.
@mikkifarmer9626
@mikkifarmer9626 16 күн бұрын
@@dmacleod3843 I thought that Shogun was a Hulu original. My bad.
@rltw2753
@rltw2753 4 күн бұрын
@@mikkifarmer9626dmn right your bad … you’re a buffoon
@rltw2753
@rltw2753 4 күн бұрын
@@mikkifarmer9626dm right your bad .. you’re a buffoon
@oldnoobgamer90
@oldnoobgamer90 19 күн бұрын
I think the finale is superb even without a huge battle scene. The title of the book is Shogun (将軍 which means general in Chinese) and the finale really shows us how brilliant Toranaga is as a general. He fought using clandestine and covert strategies. Almost Sun Tzu like. He said, he does not control the wind, only study it. He did that brilliantly as a military leader to a point that the final outcome of the battle was already decided.
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
Superb? The only thing Toranaga did throughout the series was kill his own people, friends and closest allies. He even admitted he burned Anjin's ship and will keep burning it solely for his own amusement. He is a complete nutcase psychopath! The enemy won in this show.
@oldnoobgamer90
@oldnoobgamer90 19 күн бұрын
@@SutterKrump You probably misunderstood. It's not about Toranaga from a moral standpoint. Rather, it's about the show portraying him as a masterful military leader employing Sun Tzu-like tactics in winning the war before the battle even begins. That's why it's superb because the series is about Toranaga becoming the Shogun.
@hermaeusmora1827
@hermaeusmora1827 19 күн бұрын
Chinese? Your basic Asian geography needs brushing uon
@oldnoobgamer90
@oldnoobgamer90 19 күн бұрын
@@hermaeusmora1827 将軍 is Japanese kanji characters taken from Chinese.
@SANESX
@SANESX 19 күн бұрын
​@@hermaeusmora1827You know Japanese use Chinese alphabets right? He is not wrong.
@evansonhakeem
@evansonhakeem 19 күн бұрын
"Shogun" emerges as a captivating journey into the heart of medieval Japan, showcasing valor, intrigue, and cultural richness with unparalleled finesse. The series not only transports viewers to a bygone era but immerses them in its intricacies, thanks to its meticulous attention to detail and historical accuracy. One of the standout features of "Shogun" is its breathtaking cinematography, which beautifully captures the essence of feudal Japan. From sweeping landscapes to intimate character moments, every frame is a visual feast that enhances the storytelling experience. As we revel in the triumph of "Shogun," one can't help but hope for more television shows to follow in its footsteps, striving for the same level of quality and dedication to storytelling. In an age of endless content, "Shogun" stands tall as a shining example of what television can achieve when excellence is the ONLY guiding principle.
@Cinephileofmany
@Cinephileofmany 6 күн бұрын
Well said 👏🏻
@earphonez9297
@earphonez9297 4 күн бұрын
Chatgpt spotted
@ImStayGold42
@ImStayGold42 19 күн бұрын
There is another novel similar to Shogun that I hope to see one day adapted into a TV series called "Shike" by Robert Shea. I highly recommend it!
@EnthusiasticLock-hn4qp
@EnthusiasticLock-hn4qp 19 күн бұрын
I like the show as a whole. I was hooked the first 4 episodes. I kept hearing they are speed running through the story from the book readers. When I look back, they went to Osaka then left then went back then left. The traditions of the historic “japans” kept me engaged
@jbgbc
@jbgbc 19 күн бұрын
All I have to say is that I was crying when Toranaga stopped the Anjin from killing himself.. How quickly he got over there and popped him like Bruce Lee had me 💀🤣
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
Well he needs someone to torture, and that someone is Anjin. He burned his ship and admitted he'll keep burning it solely for his own amusement because he gets off on it. That's why he kept him alive. Toranaga is the greatest psychopath in Japan. He only killed his own people throughout the entire show and is enemy number 1.
@fruits050
@fruits050 19 күн бұрын
man, that hit lol
@bradleye660
@bradleye660 19 күн бұрын
@SutterKrump The real John Blackthorne, William Adams, was made some sort of sea tradesman for Japan. He was not viewed as just a slave or barbarian by Toranaga. He was given a wife & a salary in Japan.
@sassymess7111
@sassymess7111 18 күн бұрын
The actor/producer portraying Toranaga is also a martial artist. He also did his own stunt work.
@bulletproof844
@bulletproof844 19 күн бұрын
I like that the story of "Shogun" is concluded. It was a really good series and I loved every episode. Star Wars, and Marvel have shown us, what it looks like. If you desperartly trying to keep a movie or tv-universe alive for the (money) fans. you get "The Book of Boba Fett", "Secret Invasion" and desasters alike. I rather remember "Shogun" fondly for what it was, than being heartbroken to see what it becomes after greedy studio executives decide on a second season.
@rltw2753
@rltw2753 4 күн бұрын
You a goofy there will be a season 2 start crying now
@thomaswright5492
@thomaswright5492 18 күн бұрын
One of the finest series I have seen in years and years! 10/10
@amosvane7232
@amosvane7232 12 күн бұрын
the way it ended is perfect. as much as i would love to see more, i wholeheartedly respect them for not doing a season 2. such a great show!
@sarahsmith1116
@sarahsmith1116 17 күн бұрын
Absolutely the most memorable and magnificent mini-series since the original. The acting was beyond phenomenal. Thank you for the memories.
@brianfuchs
@brianfuchs 19 күн бұрын
Loved, loved, loved Shogun. The intrigue and jockying, brilliant. The last 5 minutes brought everything to light, Toranaga's wry smile was the icing on the cake.
@AnyPerson-my8pe
@AnyPerson-my8pe 19 күн бұрын
Oh, wow! I have seen your channel in a LONG time! Glad to be back. :)
@dwaniscool
@dwaniscool 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for covering this show! I hv enjoyed watching your videos after each episode!
@bpsitrep
@bpsitrep 19 күн бұрын
I liked both the book and first adaptation, so I was skeptical going into this series. But this rendition was so freaking good !!! The authenticity was 100%. I don't want a 'Season 2'.. I only wish they would've done Sekigahara battle scenes. Cast was prefect !!!
@red_pills
@red_pills 19 күн бұрын
10:42 Toranaga is holding Mariko's cross as if it washed ashore, showing it could not be a dream and it made it's way back to John before he died.
@desnebula5699
@desnebula5699 19 күн бұрын
Holy hell. Well spotted
@JackNthaCrack
@JackNthaCrack 19 күн бұрын
What a spot bro, good job damn
@isessogroup
@isessogroup 18 күн бұрын
No he is NOT. There have ALWAYS been tassles that hang from the arms of his kimono. You can see them when he stands up while talking to Yabushige... John has had a dream of a life which he lets go permanently when decides to commit seppuku. Thats why they flash back to that dream and he restates what Mariko said "we live and we die" and he accepts he WONT die in England in a bed . He has in that moment accepted that his fate has changed...
@daneo617
@daneo617 18 күн бұрын
​@@isessogroupnot really 😂
@isessogroup
@isessogroup 18 күн бұрын
@@daneo617 literally
@riccarrasquilla379
@riccarrasquilla379 19 күн бұрын
thanks for the review
@athenovae
@athenovae 18 күн бұрын
9/10 Ending. 1 point off cuz I wanted to see the cannons fire one last time and the start of the battle too. Not even a full episode dedicated to it, just a charge before the clash and that’s it. Imagine the Rohirrim and Gandalf’s glorious charge with the sun down to Helm’s Deep 😭
@dmacleod3843
@dmacleod3843 17 күн бұрын
Opposite ending grade from me. I gave the finale a 3/10. I read the original novel as well as watched the 1980 show, and while I thought the first 9 shows of this new series were outstanding, the last one just left me feeling disappointed based on what I have read and have already seen. I mean, the whole "dream sequence" diversion at the beginning did not appear in either the book or the 1980s show. Why not just bring the 1975 novel to life like Peter Jackson did with the "Lord of the Rings" series? After all, I don't want someone's additional "creative" intepretation or input on a beloved work, I just want some literary work to be brought to life. Why is that such a hard thing to understand? Watch the "Lord of the Rings" series or the awesome Granada "Sherlock Holmes" shows from the 1980s as proof as to what sticking to the source material can bring.
@lonelyduck9789
@lonelyduck9789 19 күн бұрын
I didnt understand this show but rewatching it makes much more sense. 😂
@jonber9411
@jonber9411 19 күн бұрын
I think you are wasting your time. It just felt quite far fetched at most times
@lydiaquinn2892
@lydiaquinn2892 19 күн бұрын
I thought it was really perfect! But I wonder if Toronaga thought all was lost and still scheming until he got the letter from Ochiba
@lopche808
@lopche808 17 күн бұрын
Why is no one commenting how good of a review this was. Thank you
@DOSBoxMom
@DOSBoxMom 19 күн бұрын
Watching the remake did motivate me to both rewatch the 1980 miniseries and reread the book, though.
@gushanana
@gushanana 19 күн бұрын
Best ending explained video!
@socalrefrigeration548
@socalrefrigeration548 19 күн бұрын
The main cast and the show runner both said there will be no season 2.
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
So all we have to go on is this Toranaga's psychopathic vision about victory. We don't even know if his plan works. This master strategist only killed his own people not grazing a hair on his enemies' heads.
@PROVOCATEURSK
@PROVOCATEURSK 19 күн бұрын
People lie and change their minds when money are involved. It would be foolish to not make season 2.
@instamoral2610
@instamoral2610 19 күн бұрын
This was a mini series from the start. No season 2. ​@@PROVOCATEURSK
@SkLassi-en1ds
@SkLassi-en1ds 19 күн бұрын
​@@SutterKrump average American comment
@kylelee6
@kylelee6 19 күн бұрын
@@SutterKrumpWell, we already know Toranagas plan works because it’s based off real Japan history lol it becomes known as Battle of Sekigahara and Toranaga becomes Shogun after defeating Ishido
@lelouche25
@lelouche25 19 күн бұрын
Also, I'm still fucking bawling at the tragic fate of John and Mariko's love.
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
How so? The only thing Mariko did was begging to commit suicide every single episode. Don't feel sorry for people who don't appreciate life.
@yuvinducaldera9612
@yuvinducaldera9612 19 күн бұрын
@@SutterKrump So true. The japs really didn't learn this lesson till the end of WW2. What hell is the point of commiting suicide just to prove a point. I liked this show less and less as it progressed. Felt like it tried so hard to be sophisticated it ended up being pretentious.
@WBSGBS
@WBSGBS 3 күн бұрын
@@SutterKrumpyou don’t understand the Japanese culture at this time then.
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 3 күн бұрын
@@WBSGBS i dont have a reason to understand it. I'm not Japanese
@WBSGBS
@WBSGBS 3 күн бұрын
@@SutterKrump really odd that your interested in this show then
@ActionKame
@ActionKame 19 күн бұрын
I never subscribe to the streaming platform and wait for any shows pirated version to watch . But i was so hyped by the show that i bought a 3 months subscription just to watch this show
@elbj19
@elbj19 16 күн бұрын
Shogun was good. I appreciate you for explaining everything in such details to understand completely
@chewiewins
@chewiewins 17 күн бұрын
Perhaps when John says, Unless I win, it inspired Tokunaga to realise he took could do the impossible by winning, having felt defeated up till then. He did quote him after all at the end.
@famouslexxx
@famouslexxx 19 күн бұрын
💯 well explained
@Milton2k
@Milton2k 18 күн бұрын
Great series, one of the best in recent years. It will be hard to continue though.
@adrianvideophoto
@adrianvideophoto 5 күн бұрын
Ah, it's fantastic that they've based it on the book. Absolutely loving the visual explanation thanks man. Personally, I reckon one season's just perfect. If you ask me, I'd love to see Mariko and John tying the knot and living happily ever after in London, in my dream's dream. I wld break that loyalty to the master, her death was crazy to me.
@MrHhoommeerr
@MrHhoommeerr 16 күн бұрын
Only two TV shows have made me cry in the past year or so. Number one Better Call Saul and now Shogun.
@gretchenmiller3639
@gretchenmiller3639 19 күн бұрын
The dream scene with Blackthorne on his deathbed back in England makes no sense and does not advance the storyline. They would have been better to have kept in Mariko's funeral scene, but they keep changing things. This episode was better than the last, but if you want to watch a better Shogun series watch the one from the 80's with Chamberlain as Blackthorne. It was much better.
@samlanganke1262
@samlanganke1262 18 күн бұрын
It was good for 1980 and founded my interest for Japan then. But in retrospect it was way too "Hollywood". Blackthorne was the white adventure superstar which Chamberlain was in these days after doing the 1970s versions of Count of Monte Christo and Three Musketeers. But that is NOT John's role.
@Kimpoi1927
@Kimpoi1927 17 күн бұрын
I think the blurred portions specially on the bottom of the screen can be scene throughout the whole season, not just on the Blackthorne Dream scene
@luzperras728
@luzperras728 11 күн бұрын
I love the writing, the costumes, the characters, no plot armor here. Really hope for a season 2 but I'm happy with just the first season!
@raguilo1
@raguilo1 11 күн бұрын
Never watched the old version of Shogun. Love this one every second of it. Oscar worthy acting, in my humble opinion.
@connormcleod9595
@connormcleod9595 19 күн бұрын
Absolutely sublime❤❤❤
@thedieusaf7108
@thedieusaf7108 15 күн бұрын
this is the best show ive seen in a very long time
@kimpelalltheway51
@kimpelalltheway51 19 күн бұрын
Of the Clavell books, Gai-Jin (Foreigner) is the only other one set exclusively in Japan, albeit 268 years later during the Meiji Restoration. The last Tokugawa/Toranaga shogun is a character in the book. That would be interesting to see made into a miniseries as "Season 2", though like other commenters I still think the 1980 version was better than this one.
@garysanders6091
@garysanders6091 19 күн бұрын
Amazing show, that REALLY needed at least another season
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 19 күн бұрын
What's amazing about it? All Toranaga did was murder his own people and burning ships. Clearly a paid infiltrator, unless the goal of a great leader is to ONLY kill his own people and not even touch his enemies.
@garysanders6091
@garysanders6091 19 күн бұрын
@@SutterKrump do you typically judge shows based on rather you morally agree with every character on it? The show isn’t amazing because I trust toranaga to baby sit my kids. It’s amazing because of the plot, intrigue, characters, and themes.
@instamoral2610
@instamoral2610 19 күн бұрын
​@@garysanders6091loll
@adamdavidsoddities8573
@adamdavidsoddities8573 5 күн бұрын
​@@SutterKrumpI recommend you never watch breaking bad
@SutterKrump
@SutterKrump 5 күн бұрын
@@adamdavidsoddities8573 that was over 10 years ago. I can't unwatch it
@Akiyeok
@Akiyeok 15 күн бұрын
8:40 I love it when Yabushige said that. On earlier episode he said that cracking your head is much more lower than boiling to death, he also states that its not worse than being dogs eating your body. Edit: I don't think there is a need for season, its just the series ended in a hypothetical ending. I'd only 1-3 episode short for an actual ending for it
@chipmunk1227
@chipmunk1227 18 күн бұрын
The show was a work of art. Fantastic and entertaining
@kiernansmith4382
@kiernansmith4382 19 күн бұрын
Didn’t they say they were only doing one season?
@desultorilypanacea
@desultorilypanacea 19 күн бұрын
That's strange if they did say that. Because why didn't they say it was a limited series which is what you do in that situation.
@Kippzy
@Kippzy 19 күн бұрын
Best show I’ve watched in a long time. The finale took me by surprise, I was expected an all out war to end of the show but I get what Toranaga was planning all along. I just hate this show came to an end.
@lendial
@lendial 19 күн бұрын
John is not the white saviour of the story like it we would of assumed at the start when Toranga said John, Mariko and John's fates were intertwinned. John did not change Japan nor was he crucial part of the grand design, just a jester for king Toranaga's amusement and a distraction for Toranaga's enemies.
@clumsyturtle8544
@clumsyturtle8544 19 күн бұрын
Yeah watchng the show I never felt John was the saviour type. The man since episoded one was swept up in Torunaga's games, living by the skin of his teeth and not really having any real power, most of the time he is a prisoner.
@bradleye660
@bradleye660 19 күн бұрын
We were really seeing the story through John’s eyes anyway.
@Thomas-mz9zq
@Thomas-mz9zq 10 күн бұрын
Sad to see such a captivating Series end as it did whit no follow up season where it certainly could afford but no lets cut it on sort of a cliffhanger🤦 I have not read the book so dont know how that one end🤫
@MrCoolpat102
@MrCoolpat102 19 күн бұрын
I believe blackthorn as an old man was real. If you look at the final shot of shogun, toranaga is holding a rosary as well. Indicating blackthorn was holding the rosary was given to him by toranaga when he finally let him go
@bradleye660
@bradleye660 19 күн бұрын
John Blackthorne (William Adam’s) never returned to England. It was absolutely just a dream, and not reality because that wouldn’t be a truthful ending. William Adams lived out the rest of his life in Japan. John saw what he would become if he held onto the loss of Mariko & returned to England, so he let go of the rosary in the lake to signify that he had let her go. He changed his fate. That was the whole point of showingJohn letting go of Mariko’s rosary.
@Astro90909
@Astro90909 12 күн бұрын
No season 2 is needed... this is just perfect as it is... ❤
@maufuentes
@maufuentes 19 күн бұрын
What struck me the most about this final episode was how non-chalantly and without any ceremony Yabushige took out his blade and commited Seppuku. Hell, he wasn´t even kneeling! In the end, he did go as a Samurai though: he did not fear death.
@deandrake8462
@deandrake8462 18 күн бұрын
Thought it was awesome....sad that its over.....it was very well done
@x.kasiouris5503
@x.kasiouris5503 19 күн бұрын
We should get a series with toranaga from when he was a teen or just a sengoku jidai tv series
@cheappoetry2798
@cheappoetry2798 19 күн бұрын
A season two would be weird. Almost every major character died. Excpet John, Torunaga, Omi, Buntaro and the Portuguese Catholics. I wouldn't be opposed to a season two, but it would be very bittersweet
@Roqetteur
@Roqetteur 8 күн бұрын
Yabushige was a great character, love how there's no rightgeous party, all of them human. I wasn't rooting for anyone, just enjoying a delightful drama.
@Multistan85
@Multistan85 19 күн бұрын
It stayed true to the book, at most. Everyone just wanted a big battle scene. Even myself 😆.
@Ryan-du4kx
@Ryan-du4kx 18 күн бұрын
toranaga is holding the the japanese girls neckalace that anjin threw in the water in the very last scene of episode 10. You can see it at 10:42 of this video
@rickraw100
@rickraw100 19 күн бұрын
Knowing one month later the battle of Sekigahara would take place. Tokugawa Ieyasu was out numbered 75,000 to 120,000 and only lost about 4000 warriors compared to west that lost about 32,000. Therefore winning the war and becoming Shogun.
@countanimeavenger6536
@countanimeavenger6536 19 күн бұрын
When is the new AHS Delicate review
@RaoulDuke141
@RaoulDuke141 Күн бұрын
im happy it didnt get renewed. As much as I would kill for a season 2 it ended on a really good note. I don't need to seem Toranaga sitting on the "throne" because they made it clear he was getting it.
@pritchetty
@pritchetty 18 күн бұрын
Captivating series and engaging characters. Torunaga is charismatic and powerful. Mariko-sama is so captivating. She reminded me of Daenerys Targaryen. This series has a much better ending than Game of Thrones. It's much better overall. I wish there would be season 2.
@dlasis
@dlasis 19 күн бұрын
The Art of War indeed
@endlessvoid2215
@endlessvoid2215 19 күн бұрын
I'm shocked people were disappointed. Got season 1 didn't have huge battles. But what made season 1 amazing was political intrigue and character development. So many characters died I expected to live. The reveal he has been wanting to be shogun the whole time. Just all of it I loved. I feel like if you had a some huge end game war people would still hate it. And they tell you where and what will happen. Ishido is going to lose. He won't have the support for the regents due to oshiba aligning with Toranaga. It was a giant chess match. And I loved it. Tho I really would have liked a season 2.
@dmacleod3843
@dmacleod3843 17 күн бұрын
Perhaps you wouldn't be so shocked if you had read the novel or had seen the original 1980s adaptation. Maybe then you would understand why some people didn't view the finale of this 2024 show as the Second Coming of Christ. As much as I admired this new version, the last show was disappointing and left many people feeling unfulfilled (and count me in as one of them). I think they dropped the ball on this one.
@comegetsome7724
@comegetsome7724 12 күн бұрын
@@dmacleod3843 your opinion noted - and now intend on reading the novel. I did see the original, but not with weekly anticipation as this one. as good as he was, he was still 'dr kildair' to me. thanks for your input.
@dragonmaster420stephens9
@dragonmaster420stephens9 19 күн бұрын
I loved the series and hope it gets a 2nd season!
@Puncherjoe1
@Puncherjoe1 19 күн бұрын
It was a one and done.
@cain7925
@cain7925 19 күн бұрын
no, it was already stretch enough
@krakelwok
@krakelwok 4 күн бұрын
I'm glad Shogun came out in 2024 because if it had been released in 2023 I'd have had a tough time deciding if Shogun or Fall of the House of Usher was the better mini series that year.
@conifergreen2
@conifergreen2 18 күн бұрын
I loved it!
@paalsr
@paalsr 14 күн бұрын
this series was masterpiece
@leonardoadrian5297
@leonardoadrian5297 19 күн бұрын
Sometimes duty is the death of love 😢
@VictoriaHatzson
@VictoriaHatzson 4 күн бұрын
Incredible show
@Andrew-cp7mc
@Andrew-cp7mc 19 күн бұрын
It would have been more complete if they showed the fate of Ishido as per the book. I read the book before watching this series so the muted ending was expected to a large extent but it was still kind of anticlimactic when reading it.
@Murasakitsuyukusa
@Murasakitsuyukusa 17 күн бұрын
Lol, your pronunciation of Japanese words and names is hilarious, Maeriko and shoguhn are priceless. Lmao.
@kenneththamenace1703
@kenneththamenace1703 19 күн бұрын
I wanted to see a battle
@pungkoy75
@pungkoy75 18 күн бұрын
The final battle wasn't shown because they didn't have the budget lol
@makukawakami
@makukawakami 13 күн бұрын
I cant wait for them to show the battle of sekigahara in season 2, that scene just made me lose my shit. also if they show Date Masamune being played by Ken Watanabe, I'm going to be hyped
@robertkordzikowski460
@robertkordzikowski460 17 күн бұрын
I manned the rails of a ship in Shimano, during the Black Ship festival. Never really understood it, 'till now. Shogun got me interested and I am sad to see the miniseries' ending. Someone should continue the Barbarian's story... Even if, partly historical.
@joeschianodicola1810
@joeschianodicola1810 5 сағат бұрын
I don't think a second season is needed, and it runs the risk of what we saw happen to Game of Thrones seasons 7 and 8. Shogun had a monumental season, it doesn't need to go beyond that.
@bigkoala2179
@bigkoala2179 16 күн бұрын
Ok so there won’t be a second series, but how about a movie of the battle of sekigahara using all the same actors? Basically anyone who watched shogun would defo watch that.
@DOSBoxMom
@DOSBoxMom 19 күн бұрын
My husband and I found the final episode of the remake to be anti-climatic, especially compared to the 1980 miniseries. We also noticed that certain scenes from the book & 1980 miniseries were transposed to other characters & even to other times: f.ex., Yabu going temporarily deaf (as Blackthorne did in the book) and going a bit crazy after Mariko's death (as Vinck did when he saw the wreck of the Erasmus), or Toranaga preventing Blackthorne's suicide to protest punishing the village for the wreck of the Erasmus (instead of Yabu preventing Blackthorne's suicide to protest punishing the village if he didn't learn Japanese quickly enough).
@samlanganke1262
@samlanganke1262 18 күн бұрын
It's not a remake. It's the second adaptation of the novel.
@masterrserch3971
@masterrserch3971 19 күн бұрын
I have been waiting since like episode 4 or 5, for the big ol hammer to drop on a HUGE reveal/twist, of Toranaga talking alone with John, and BOOM, hitting us with English and that he's been fluent in it this whole time Full disclosure, only vaguely remembered that this was even a book, had less than 0 clue this was a miniseries in 1980 or whenever lt was lolol
@hy.1025
@hy.1025 19 күн бұрын
lol bro thinks exactly the same as me. i always think of characters in the series have a twist and speak englsh lollllll
@mlittleds9
@mlittleds9 19 күн бұрын
loved it great finale
@EDTheOneable
@EDTheOneable 18 күн бұрын
Shogun is a brilliant masterpiece...enough said
@rickbruner5525
@rickbruner5525 18 күн бұрын
Having watched the original series in 1980 and having read the book prior to that, I was not especially impressed with the 2024 version. So much was changed without any real purpose. The conflict between Blackthorne and Father Alvito, the relationship between Blackthorne and Rodrigues, the fact that Blackthorne was a highly educated man who rapidly became fluent in Japanese (the character was a polyglot: fluent in English, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, and Latin), the dynamics of the relationships between Obi, Yabu, Kiku, and Blackthorne (Kiku eventually became Anjin's wife much to Obi's dismay). It was Obi who stopped Blackthorne from killing himself over the threat to Anjiro based on an order from Yabu. Even the Buntaro archery scene was dumbed down. The rescue of Yabu after his being washed overboard was completely changed for no apparent reason. It was just a jarring experience for someone who read and loved the book.
@peterbryantorres7096
@peterbryantorres7096 17 күн бұрын
I AGREE 100%! It was so disappointing that I’m having PTSD - why did they turn Blackthorn into such a buffoon? They completely ruined the scene where he attempts to commit Seppuku which was such a pivotal moment in the novel and so beautifully written. It was the moment he had a breakthrough and claimed his fate-and took it into his own hands. What a disappointment this series was.
@Teefs143
@Teefs143 11 күн бұрын
Did he really throw the cross to the sea? Or it was a dream?
@rickbruner5525
@rickbruner5525 10 күн бұрын
@@Teefs143 Since it was not something from the book, I suppose you would have to ask the writers. There was no dream sequence in the book either.
@TP-pq9xx
@TP-pq9xx 7 күн бұрын
@@peterbryantorres7096 They showed Blackthorne being able to become fluent in Japanese over a short time and they emphasized that he was a skilled pilot. And then they made it clear that he was ashamed of the way his crewmates behaved, they portrayed him as a man with honor and values that were way above his average peers. They showed him being polite and respectful, even to prostitutes. They showed him in anguish and wracked in guilt over the death of some random, unimportant villager. To me Blackthorne was unrealistically intelligent and virtuous almost to the point of comedy but you found him to be a buffoon....interesting.
@glennwiebe5128
@glennwiebe5128 16 күн бұрын
While I knew that this series would not be able to do the book justice, a few more episodes would have been able to resolve things. Although I can understand not having the battle, just having Toranaga explain himself on a cliffside is just weak. The series has masterfully brought to life fuedal Japan along with its intrigues and violence. The finale was like watching an enormous carnival ride grind to a halt. The power/funding was cut and the producers had to wind it up before it stopped altogether and left too many threads up in the air.
@hieuluu2
@hieuluu2 17 күн бұрын
Why do some media referred to Shogun as " Season 1"? Season 1 implies there's Season 2, etc...when we all know, it's just a mini'series or limited series.
@Uldihaa
@Uldihaa 16 күн бұрын
The executive producers have already said they won't be doing a second season. The book has been adapted, so there's nothing else to work with. If FX decided to do it anyway, even with the lesson every producer in Hollywood should have learned from Game of Throne right there in their faces, it won't be all that good. The real person Blackthorne is based on, William Adams, really did continue to live quite happily in Japan for the rest of his life. He built the Tokugawa Shogante a fleet of Western-style ships, and was even granted special permission to trade with foreign countries. He never saw his English wife or children again, though he did write them at letters. It's why we know so much about his life. The head of the British East India Company's HQ in Japan was also a close friend with Adams and wrote quite a bit about him and his family up until he left Japan in 1623.
@hassanalshaer3094
@hassanalshaer3094 6 сағат бұрын
Shogun is a reality check
@angelodelacruz1007
@angelodelacruz1007 19 күн бұрын
This is the moment Toranaga truly became Heishogunberg. Sasuga, Vince-dono.
@TylerChristiaens
@TylerChristiaens 9 күн бұрын
This show was brilliant.
@TsuNAmI2069
@TsuNAmI2069 13 күн бұрын
Even though I absolutely loved this show, I do not wish for a 2nd season. This story was beautifuly closed as it's source material. However, I would like to see some (if not all) of the other books from the Asian series of Clavell to be made into a show. Maybe Tai-Pan could be next?
@mitchgunzler3737
@mitchgunzler3737 19 күн бұрын
One odd dreamlike point: Torunaga predicts the battle of Sekigahara. Which did indeed take place, he did win, and it launched the Tokugawa Shogunate… so, great plan… Except: Torunaga says Lady Ochiba’s decision to hold back her son’s participation will win the battle before it starts. It was actually the bloodiest battle in Japanese history. Did I get the scene wrong, or is he in for a messy surprise?
@leburger5160
@leburger5160 19 сағат бұрын
I'm fairly certain that season two has been confirmed now, though this is a few weeks after this video was published... This show is definitely game of thrones level. The political intrigue was top notch. Many don't understand that most of the civil wars fought in Japan rarely even saw armies actually engaging on the battlefield. The vast majority of them were fought in the court with schemes and a few calculated kills that forced your enemy to either escalate the situation or concede and admit defeat. The latter being more common than the former. This show does the upmost to depict that to an unhealthy degree. While the west would dedicate entire generations of men to certain death in needless civil wars, Japan generally had a different attitude to fighting amongst themselves. Their culture of honor dictated that outright public hostilities between Daimyo were generally forbidden, unless given express approval by the ruling Shogun or Emperor, depending on which currently held power at the time. Feuding nobles in the west would fight the crown as much as they would fight each other, honor be damned. Despite the anglo view of this region of the world at the time, Japan (and the east in general) were, and largely still remains, a far more civilised place than the superior military powers of the anglosphere. There is a reason they saw us as barbarians as apposed to the savages we believed them to be. Our arrogance made us appear incompetent and our general lack of respect for traditions that didn't align with our own is the reason we were viewed as morons. Largely, even today, that sentiment is still a thing in that region of the world. Europeans caused far more issues in the east than we ever solved. All the wars that occurred after our arrival are a direct result of our meddling in a region we didn't care about and had no intention of understanding...
@ainsleyperry5192
@ainsleyperry5192 16 күн бұрын
No there won't be a second series of Shogun. Like the book it is it's own compleat story. But the most amazing thing is the large number of people who have rediscovered the first T.V. series. All so they can get their Shogun fix. Let's hope someone will make James Clavell's "Tai-Pan" into a new series and make it with just as much care. Cheers, Chris Perry
@ahmedalmabrook8329
@ahmedalmabrook8329 13 күн бұрын
Great limited series and if Sanada want to succeed it he should make more like it and this time more heroic and battle scenes. And japanese history is full of it 👍
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