Time to dehydrate and wait for season 2 (hopefully).

You never said if you liked the series? What did you think

Got one insight explained incorrect, the Sophons can’t see everything all the time on earth, we get to “see” through one of the Sophon in a later scene and it is possible to hide from the Sophons if humanity is globally coordinating.

They should hire Japanese writers for these kinds of shows.

no its not... In the books they have to go inside a farraday cage to stop the sophons listening, they see everything apart from thoughts @@CanadianWolverine

😂😂😂😂😂😂

or just yknow, lie about humanity's ability to lie

if thats all it takes then they were coming anyway

Imagine you're a civilisation that cannot comprehend lying, as your minds are transparent and you do not even know the baby step of concealing info, let alone lie. And then your follower explains you the concept, in the most dubious way by a story which is a lie made up by humans to tell you do not trust liars. Thats the human equivalent of your friend/follower saying "I can read minds, everyone you met or seen till now can as well" I would abandon them on the spot man, especially if you're a whole new different species.

@@timthyfriend you're not really taking your thought experiment far enough... even if your thoughts are transparent because of obligatory telepathy, there should still be ways to avoid thinking of stuff and to "encrypt" stuff. the key here is interpretation: mindreading does not necessarily mean equivalent interpretation. my theory is that it is quite impossible for the santi to be unaware of "lying" as a concept (especially after having scanned our wikipedia duh) so this was a likely a ploy by them to get rid of evans and his ETO crew. it also makes a philosophical _casus belli_ so the santi can justify their imminent invasion; but it itself is a lie.

every ending explained video

dudes gotta get clicks on the internets somehow. what better way than to describe an ending that never actually happened and waste 20 mins of your time while getting they get paid for it?

ending is simple and clear

To me it’s a very clear explanation of an ending: humanity chooses to fight even though the enemy is superior and they don’t know how to fight

get with the times. every ending explained is like this. or read the book

This show is garbage 🤢

Put your hand on the ground.

No​@@realanimeir3173

​@@realanimeir3173you're garbage

😂 clever ​@@rustybeth99

How far in the book are we at end of season one?

⁠@@llothar68 you would have to read from the beginning I'm afraid. The Show changed character names, genders, races, romantic relationships, timeline, and even some iconic scenes.

@@llothar68It’s about 1/3rd through the second book. The last half of the second book and the whole 3rd book are all pretty epic. It's basically just setting the stage for the actual events or the story. Also, the only thing the show did was being forward characters from the second and third book into the first season of the show. They were on the same timelines, but weren't introduced until later books. For instance, Wade wasn't introduced until the third book, but for continuity and “investment into characters” they're done a good job. Also, they've had to make one book character into a few different people, and switched roles here and there. Creative liberties are absolutely necessary to make a series from such an epic trilogy. Overall they've done a good job keeping the story together. Plus, Cixin Liu signed off on it.

And yet. Everything is meaningless. No book will stand the test of eternity.​@@nepenthy9804

Netflix ignores lots of important details and portrays many of the most mindblowing parts in a very plain way. If given the opportunity, anyone should read the whole book, which is definitely a masterpiece of humanity@@llothar68

Yes

Imagine having to wait till 2026

@@givemeacutenickname1500 Better than waiting 400 yrs.

me too!

Second books and third books are crazier than first one.

GOAT isn't a word. It's an acronym for 4 words "greatest of all time". Sorry to steal your thunder! (and I agree he is!)

🤓☝️

@@DMDvideo10The definition of an acronym is "an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of other words and pronounced as a word." So, the OP was right.

@@DMDvideo10 you have to be joking

@@KP-zd3hc Well at least one person got it. Yes I was being sarcastic...

🙄

that's why we're all here xD

was the soda coke

Good. We can comment without him knowing. Mostly.

hahaha yea xD I like to pretend to be illiterate too sometimes - illiteracy is fucking hilarious to me for some reason haha like that one picture of Floyd Mayweather sweating bullets out of his face trying to read a children's book upside down. Bruh im dead xD

If the aliens are so smart why don't they just remove the human ability to lie it's just a chemical process in the brain in a point in the brain that can just easily be done away with if they're so advanced

Do you think Netflix would allow the trilogy ending?

Same

very much agree its a very pleasant surprise they did a good job here i am hooked.

The show was very good 10 out of 10 in visuals stunning and great. Cgi on point but I do have one thing a very small thing the show is great. The cast well picked but the one thing I didn't like again everything else great but the one thing is if these aliens are advanced why not truly understand human biology and maybe I don't know perhaps. Maybe taking away there ability to lie.

Since we are talking about Netflix, i doubt it.

Book 2 and book are probably 3x or 4x the budget of the first. It's not going to have enough views to warrant that.

30 minutes in the first episode, boring and bad so far, the chinese story line is good, but everything else, all the characters, bad. It better pick up quick

30 minutes in first episode, except the chinese storyline from the 1960s, everything else is shit so far. I cannot stress how it annoys me that they made the scientists so dumb.

I hope it gets canceled like cowboy bebop or whatever it’s called. They ruined the story.

It has to do with Earthers threatening them to reveal their planets location?

I think it’s for IDBM scoring😄

It's not and never happens in the books

@@anonymousone6075 this didn't happen in the books but what Raj's father said is relevant to the story.

Yes it’s relevant - the first strike of the grenade is critical to the “Dark Forest” answer to the Fermi Paradox; contrapositively, the breathing equipment is not unlike the stable survivable biosphere that the San Ti are pursuing

Too much Will and friends nonsense. The real reveal is that the santi are also bugs

@@llothar68 They are doing heavy character development for Will because hes going to be important in the future.

​@@RockyXu does jin ends up with will?

@@dhimankalita1690 No but they met again big time

@@llothar68will is the most important character in the series imho

i honestly think this is how the universe is. it's startlingly silent for how vast the universe is.

yeah,hello my bug friends

the universe isn't silent in this series ;) @@9razzler9 Everyone is hiding like hunters with sniper rifles ready. Netflix just didn't show it yet

For a successful strategy in the universe, you either have to know with certainty that cooperation is endemic, or you have to resort to silence and hostility. Since we currently can't understand the universe, silence and hostility is the only possible successful strategy for this civilization.

its no different than mother nature. the weak will perish while the strong carry on. One of the things I like about the movie Oblivion (2013 film) is they came to earth for our water. So Who knows if there is a civilization out there that is lusting for our water kinda like how nations lust for oil.

I noticed this as well. Seems like a major plot hole. Can someone explain?

some humans were tricked into thinking that. I don't think they had concern either way. Its a measure to protect themselves from us inventing space elevators and space nuking them.

​@@johnjames4834did you not see the ending scene with the bugs flying everywhere?

of course i saw it so what@@oli.y

Maybe they lie too and felt threatened when they discovered humans can lie😉

of course it will

Yea in the book they cast a “spell” on a star but I won’t spoil it

@@lance8980Wrong book, wrong star. 😉

yeah im sure the aliens will honour the star agreement otherwise how could it affect anything also do you get the planets too

In the books, kind of. Dunno what they'll do with it in the show though

I am wondering if that joke refers to 'dark forest' rule or something else. I think Wenjie Ye finally realized the truth of San-Ti purpose to come to earth so she wanted to share a solution to Saul before she died. I didn't quite get the joke at the beginning but then I thought I've had understood that there always be a superior aliens being able to destroy you if you try to play with them (or tell them where you are) according to the dark forest rule. Saul can take advantage of this idea to threaten San-Tis by disclosing where they are to the universe.

@nickwu6534 I haven't read the book, but based on some of the comments, that might be the case. I understood the joke to an extent but didn't truly know what it referred to on how to defeat them.

I think he does already but he can't say it out cuz wallfacer.

@@nickwu6534Akshually, I think that might refer to that conversation she had with that one pacifist Trisolaran when she first send the message. He told don’t respond or they will come and invade you but she did it anyway. She(the scientist, I don’t remember her name) is Albert, that one pacifist Trisolaran is the angel, and the rest of them is God(Lord).

Its not a joke. She said it was a joke because she dont want aliens to know she was lying. She gave a riddle clue to saul on how to win. Which is "dont play with god". She actually turned at the end when abandoned by lord? At least that was my opinion. Imagine calling aliens and for several decades thinking about how can the be defeated or helped. Simulating all strategies in her head her last decades since she sent the signal. That is why she called saul. Basically she was a wallfacer without her knowing. And she gave that joke as a riddle to Saul

Indeed

He was an idiot

I haven't had a proper bag of crisps since he passed... sorely missed.

the only flaw of the book I think is if those trisolarians have developed such advanced civilization and technology to create Sophon that require dimensional adjustment, why not they find another singular solar system nearby to colonize instead of flying 400 years to earth? And, to prevent the threat from human, they spend years and resources to create quantum level computers to interrupt humanity progression.

Earth is the closest. They cannot travel faster than light.

@@nickwu6534 read the book, or keep watching (hope the TV series will be able to deliver).

@@nickwu6534 cause earth is probably the closest

Correcting: The chinese for sophon is 智子, which literally translates as something like "wisdom particle". The explanation for the english word "sophon" that makes the most sense to me is, that it is a contraction of "sophia" (greek for wisdom) and proton. Now here is where it gets tricky. 智子 as a combination of characters is also used in japanese, for the female name "Tomoko". In the books she is also described as a woman of japanese appearance. In the english translation of the book, however, she is consistently and falsely called sophon. In conclusion: It's an error in translation.

Just discovered this myself!!! What an amazing channel

He's mainly a Dune channel so Quinn covering this is great

@@Duomaxwell02M yep.. He was originally A Game of Thrones channel, do you remember ideas of ice and fire? I'm pretty sure that was his old channel name

More specifically, the "ultimate guide" he just released is a super-edit that includes basically all his old videos on this series glued together. It's good stuff, so worth a watch, but personally I would advise people to watch his old playlist where every video covers a specific topic for 20 minutes or so rather than a single behemoth of almost 5 hours.

Quinn is the reason I'm into Dune and Three- Body. 👍👍👍

In books they designed her to look like a famous porn star 😅 (not joking)

I thought it was her.

I agree lol

Just watch the Tencent version. It's too draggy, but they managed to make all the important parts worth the while, unlike how Netflix butchered it.

@@athomenotavailable They didn't butcher it, they made it more palatable for Western audiences and introduced (admittedly to varying degrees of success) some character arcs and humanity to the cold sci-fi of the books. All of the story beats are there.

They also canceled 1899, an amazing serie. That's why I only watch series that already have at least 2 seasons.

I read the trilogy and honestly I liked the TV show as well. It had to be changed to appeal to the masses.

As a reader from China, changes in gender and race are acceptable, but I feel that the changes in couples are terrible. The original work was originally written by people from different fields and circles, who met, get to know each other, and became acquainted with each other (相遇、相识、相知) due to the Three Body Incident. All of them have become lovers here, and the plot is too shallow and lacks humanistic depth

dt5690, ​Exactly, have read all the three books and the spin off as well and have really enjoyed the show.

if youre into race switching and gender swapping for no reason, this is a good watch

i absoulte agree !! the netflux interpretation doesn´t come close to the intensity of the box , its to soapy, too less science ,and some unnesssecary story character changes that render the story flat

Just finished my second watch-through. Absolutely incredible. Things are going to get Soo good

Me to and now I want dehydrated and wake me up when season 2 comes😂

I watch half episode, then sleep (it's time to bed) and I dream about the show. Wake up and watch the rest with still had the dream effect, it's very good.

Same

psh... sure. there's no way us human can screw that up, right? Good luck.

We should transmit episodes of The Big Bang Theory to them.

If they can't lie how come they can make elaborate simulations based on lies? This is obviously a massive plot hole.

What do you mean? ​@@radagastbrown9001

@@radagastbrown9001 Trisolarians just looks down on human species, lie or not, it is just an excuse. "You are bugs" sum it all.

That was truly annoying to me as well too. But you cant really just take the tech and walk away with it. She leaks it anyways by the end but the main goal is to continue the evolution of tech and come up with new stuff as well. Will be interesting how the stuff plays out with the Wallbreakers couse that is a good point. But also fuck she was so annoying =))))))) I really dont know how a scientist out of all people could be so morally attacked by the idea of using tech to accomplish goals that will or can eventually help your planet from a mass extinction(yes, they killed people not aliens but still...those people were defeatists).

@@meffycodrin1853 I forgot that part about her leaking it. So now she seems more like a threat if the wall breakers can manipulate her. A big aspect of the next season if it continues with the wall facers will be about one’s capability to keep secrets. Auggie is the perfect candidate to get into Saul’s head and get him to tell his secrets. She’s going down the same path of Dr. Ye, developing a distaste for humans, and I can see her emotions causing her to sympathize for the San-Ti (Trisolarans).

There isn’t anything left for the character she overlays to do, so she will probably be more of a sidekick to work out ideas with for the rest of the story

I bet they’ll merge her future storyline with Ay A A. She was running the company that builds cosmic elevators and was a close friend to Chen Xin.

I hated her character, Just cab]n't buy a woman that hot in the role of an inventor. Makes no sense.

Are you sure?

@@Ian-lh9diHe’s sure. I would like to second that, if you like ‘hardish’ sci-fi. Exceptional writing, character development, theme, and pacing. If someone is a fan of sci-fi, then they will love it.

It's three books

@@radagastbrown9001 i have my own problems. i dont want to read about someone else's problems

@corork perspective?

Also drinking, junk food and many drugs. Welcome to earth, doesn’t sound like you’ve been around many humans.

I thought I was the only one that noticed😅

Tobacco companies are at it again.

Thats it, why the show didnt include the most relevant threat to human being nowdays

Diversity, equity and inclusion will kill the human race before smoking. Half of the people I know smoke so they are reflecting the real world in that aspect. What about their alcoholism ?

The scientist killed themselves due to existential crisis caused by the complete nonsense physics/science has become.

That was the whole point of the judgement day cruise ship. They knew that they would conquer the world, they said it themselves, but it was also established that they were going to coexist with the humans who sympathized with their plight. But they walked that back for the most part when they found out humans are capable of lying. So they were going to kill the scientist or who ever that were doing things to either help humanity or didn’t side with them in their game.

Just like you would keep monkeys in zoos, and watchn them, you don't want them to go extinct, but you don't want planet of the apes scenario

They didn't lie, they changed their minds. They can do that, also withhold information. They can also create feints and distractions. So not being able to lie isn't a huge drawback. More so they're worried about not being able to understand human thinking and strategies since they're not used to the concept of disinformation.

Regardless of whether they planned to live at peace with us at first, they understood humanity's prospect for significant advancement in 400 years, meaning we could be a superior race (and threat to them) if not slowed down.

it was also very important when the Santi unfolded a protein molecule, etched it with circuits and turned it into an AI. It was also importaint that the first 2 tries failed, but netflix just skips it so people don't get what the sophons are

Santi is Bugs because they are small while Human is huge. This is why they depict themselves in the virtual world with peculiar ability like organising individuals into a "collective computer" and the ability to dehydrate & rehydrate.

yea I never read the spin off book but they are as big as a grain of rice when described in that @@putty-e2872

not a lie, its a metaphor surely.

go oooooon…

I need to re-watch again about that joke.

I figured they picked Saul because of Will.

​@@ReikiRandy okay, but HEAVY SPOILERS AHEAD: So as we remember from the show (episode 7), Ye Wenjie basically told a joke that goes like this: Einstein died and went to the Heaven, as a 'newly ascended member of Heaven' Einstein sees a violin and wants to play it (because he loves violin), angels come and warn him not to play because the God wouldn't like it (also God plays saxophone), but Einstein goes ahead and plays violin anyway, surprise surprise - God appears, smashes Einstein's violin, and kicks him in the balls. Angels come over and say 'we told you so'. If you remember from earlier episodes, you'd remember Ye Wenjie's disturbing past - she first heard back from a lone pacifist of the San Ti society, warning her not to reply again because the San Ti government would be able to pinpoint the Solar System and come and conquer it. Disillusioned with the Chinese Communists back then and society as a whole, Ye Wenjie ignored the warning and replied to the San Ti anyway, leading to the San Ti embarking on their journey to our Solar System. This is very synonymous to the 'angel' in her story, warning her to not 'play the violin' (as in, broadcasting signals and telling everyone around the Solar System that humans exist), and we the humankind as Einstein, a new member of the Heaven (an emerging interstellar civilization (because we can communicate over the stars now)). So what about the rest of her joke? God playing saxophone? God not liking us 'playing violin'? God assaulting us and 'smashing our violin'? This is the key information that Ye was trying to tell Saul - we as viewers can now kind of guess what would happen: so we broadcast signals and reveal our species, and San Ti people will come and... kill us all? And destroys our... broadcasting stations? But that doesn't make 100% sense because we (now in 2024) know that the San Ti was simply trying to come to Earth to survive, killing us isn't *really* their priority as long as they can settle on Earth. An alternative explanation would make much more sense: 'the God' in Ye Wenjie's story isn't really the San Ti. She's talking about civilizations even more advanced than the San Ti, and if we let *them* know of our existence we'd be doomed (probably the Earth and the entire Solar System). This explanation makes more sense when you think about how the San Ti seems to *really* don't want Saul (and the rest of human) to know this, because this provides more leverage for us as humans: we can threaten the San Ti that we're going to broadcast signals all over the universe, deliberately inviting the super advanced civilizations to come and destroy our planets, thus making our planets useless to the San Ti (AND effectively ending their race, since now they truly don't have a proper planet to survive on). As for why this would necessarily be true (as in - why was Ye Wenjie certain that any advanced civilization would be hostile to us and would kill us the first chance they get), it goes back to one of the biggest premises of the book, the one about Fermi Paradox, about why there is already an alien civilization literally 4 light years away from us but we didn't know about it until now - it's because the universe is actually teeming with life, civilizations are literally everywhere, but each goes out of their way to hide their existence out of fear of being wiped out by more advanced civilizations. As soon as a civ gets advanced enough, they learn the one true tenet of the universe: no matter how advanced you think you are, there are always civilizations out there that are more advanced than yours, beyond your wildest imaginations. And if they lay their eyes on your civilization, with technologies being developed at seemingly light speeds... they don't see a potential ally that can be reasoned with, or be engaged diplomatically; all they see is a huge threat that, is probably already more advanced than them by the time they see them lightyears away (what with all these huge time delays on a galactic scale). Naturally, they would want to preemptively destroy you. With this kind of mentality being the natural conclusion, we arrived at the universe that we're in today - a metaphorically 'dark forest' of a universe where everyone hopes nobody finds them, but wants to find everybody else so they can wipe out all potential adversaries.

he's a distraction at least!

No, they meant it literally. We are helpless bugs and they plan to eradicate us.

@@ShirleyTimpleI know they meant that but I still believe that “bug” reference came after their conversation with Mike where he suggested lying humans were bug-like pests & that’s why writers portrayed that particular discussion.

@@GratefulZenexactly. They’ve learned metaphors from Mike and they thought this one is spot on

“That answer can mostly be chalked up to being the result of a miscommunication (or perhaps the San-Ti coming to understand us better than we do ourselves) on account of Mike Evans, one of the highest ranking members of the San-Ti devotees. During one of his conversations with the San-Ti, he refers to opponents of the devotee organization as “pests,” which the San-Ti take to mean actual bugs.”

yes, you are right.

In that sense, the San Ti are like Earth's plant life. Like seeds that can go dormant for long periods of time when environmental conditions are not met/fertile. These high functioning lifeforms may be unable to process the fauna nuances of lies, but like world of the flora, they follow the rules of evolution, diversification, and propagation. In forests like the Amazon, tree saplings patiently but fiercely compete for territory and sunlight when older trees fall. Natural selection have primed these species for war.

I think they’re bugs with exoskeletons that can lie dormant.

True, it’s like New Mexico is a US state bordering Mexico.

But it used to be part of Mongolia.

@@radagastbrown9001 Used to be. Not at the time Ye Winjie was there. It had been a part of China for two decades by then.

@@radagastbrown9001 Mongolia was part of China.

Oh ,look at rikorobinson's big brain. I’m saying this while eating my 1/4 pounder.

not noonian singh then

She wasn‘t at that moment i think

It is ever more problematic, she killed Jack and broke the glass live in color with the detective wong looking right at the window !!! how come he does not see the glass break? i can understand that the sanit non-bots can erase digital information but from my perspective watching the scene she is doing it live while he is in the car looking at the building and it is highly implied he sees nothing !! how come? There is often things in this show that sorry do not make sense really if you think about it? tell me who made the headsets and how? with what tech that 'we' bug-humans do not have -- remember the san-ti are NOT here in our world only there zero-mass computers toys are here that can change digital - ok fine -- but who is mass producing the vr head sets the sicko version of facebook -- they called oculus and said make us this crazy device - eh? silly. last but not least, the main first character who contacted the aliens because 'she things humanity is bad' -- well she lives in communist china (who i am told by the way blocked this series from playing there) but none the less they are shown not to be so nice, and she bases her whole idea of humanity on these people? we have terrible people all over the world we also have the VAST majority of humans as good people so this is a silly premise and makes me not feel sorry for her, more i see her as someone to despise.

I‘m not a reader at all and i don‘t like it. but. I loved this series so much i‘m considering it. Would you say it‘s worth it? And where should i atop reading if i dont want to get spoilered for future seasons?

what bothers me is it moves so fast. but the most attractive part of the book is about the endless waiting and collapse

​i think it's too slow

@@Yetta_ but the whole book is about waiting and strugling. it's kind like my life. respond for crisis, never knowing what's he correct move. Just wait and struggle like a shit

@@daulandeyoung8884No one (or not enough) are going to want to watch people sitting around waiting for 1 hour episodes.

Not to mention the spoilers. You think game of thrones was bad. The spoilers for this series pretty much kill the desire to watch anymore.

yeah but, isnt Will(Yun Tianming) mostly the reason how they manage to learn how to deceive by the 3rd book? Becouse they studied the human brain or smth?

It depends if you think Redemption of time is Canon or not ​@@meffycodrin1853

@@meffycodrin1853 I guess Will (Yun Tianming) will be the reason why Sophon became a snarky, manipulative, and sarcastic AI (like Dolores from Westworld). Funny enough, they get along.

so Will Downing will become the 'god' and save human at the end? I think Yun Tianming in the books from my understanding is more like a hidden hero.

@@nickwu6534 Yun Tianming (Will) convinced Sophon to watch over and protect Cheng Xin (Jin Cheng) in the end. Tianming is kind of the reason why Sophon transitioned from an emotionless AI to a quirky snarky entity.

they didn’t. San-Ti is the original names for them in the Chinese version.

@@jakeraught4939Thank you for clarification, I actually suspected it watching the show.

San ti literally means trisolarans in Chinese

San-Ti direct translate to Three-body in Chinese. As a Chinese, i think trisolaran is a way better name for global audiences. IDK, or they just want the villian to have a chinese name😂😂

@@pinbo5465 Even though I've read the English version of the novel with "tri-solarian" name, I totally up to the mandarin version of the name. I am a Russian, hence I don't care much :)

Cruise scene never made sense to me. Just send in the Navy Seals, far less collateral damage.

Yeah, I though that was a bit of a leap. Like, they hadn't figured that out already, and it was the Red Riding Hood story that made them change their whole outlook on humanity?

Meh, keep your fanfic slop

Which is why they were offended when Mike Evans mentioned bugs being able to be squashed.

THERE IS A CHINESE ADAPTATION??? 0A0 .... Please, tell us unknowing creatures, where to find it! I will endure watching it, just to enjoy some COMMON SENSE. THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR NOTING, THAT NETFLIX's 3 Body Problem IS NOTHING BUT A REMAKE so to speak.

@@judithstein3533 eh... i can't tell if it's sarcasm or not, but i watched it on a russian streaming service. pretty sure you can find it on some less reputable websites to download with english subs. i mentioned it to point out that i've not read the books but am still familiar with the material and quite like it, btw.

​@@judithstein3533腾讯视频有发布，深受好评，值得一看。

@@judithstein3533 Tencent made a 30 episode series which is a lot better in my opinion, the Netflix show is the dumbed down version.

@@judithstein3533 can't tell if it's sarcasm or not, but I watched it on a russian streaming service. can't guess where you can watch it somewhere else in the world (legally).

I agree. This adaptation is quite enjoyable to watch, unlike the book in which most characters are boring as hell, except Ye Wenjie - she is the only one I feel likeable. In this show characters do behave like human beings and the chemistry between them is also fascinating, and surprisingly their interaction despite not being faithful to the novel drives the plot pretty well.

​@@thatchacre5763The books are enjoyable if you understand that the protagonist is humanity, not the characters. It doesn't translate good to TV tho, and I understand the changes.

>There's extreme voices and ubuquitous malevolence I'm curious what this meant if you care like telling us more. What do Chinese people dislike about this series?

I was wondering about that 😂. Also how can the Santi make elaborate simulations when they aren't even able to lie? 😂😂

Lots of funny things about the books and this show. Like if you are that advanced, just engineer a human killing virus and be done with it. Stop all these stupid theatrics.

Yep, and even if they compensated for this by having the nukes in pre-determined orbits synchronized to be in position at the right nanosecond, this would be millions of times more difficult to pull off than just using the Project Orion approach, developed decades ago. Shoot the nukes out the back, and use a pusher plate/radiation shield to capture the kinetic energy.

Author of this novel (Liu) liked to use more primitive way for large engineering projects like space warships, nukes for propelling, or huge jet engines to push earth (in his novel Wardering Earth, got a movie adaption too)

@@radagastbrown9001 At least the show tried to explain it: in a society everyone can read each others' minds, too difficult to hide intentions when communicating, like "maybe you lost your apple in your home (I stole and ate it)" but able to make theories, like "let's imagine there is 10 apples" Will need to block fellow mind reading/fake thoughts in my "brain" to hide intentions, and that might be a time wasting talent in a struggling race Also it brings new concern: writer should pay more attention in conveying the word "lie", SanTi may not even have that term in the first place, Evens would need much efforts to explain

How exactly were we supposed to get this intel from him, once the aliens intercepted his brain?

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Yup. You spotted it - they are learning. ..

It's not just that they can't lie, it's how they communicate as a whole. Because they can see exactly what is on another Trisolaran's (or 'San-Ti' in the show) mind, they can't hide any thoughts. Even stories are alien to them because they involved creativity that is made up.

It’s like how dogs have evolved to give themselves away in their body language behavior, now imagine a super smart dog who said to you he didn’t like bacon but his tail was wagging, you know that good boy is lying

Santi is like ants, they are only smart together. Individual human brain is bigger than Santi.

@@justfellicitya Well the one thing I learned on the street is that there's always a way to tell somebody's lying, And most of the time a liar usually tells the person they're lying to then they are not a liar. And the aliens already lied to the lady in the first time they talked, Remember that they did say that there were others, That earth would be destroyed by if they talked back but the aliens never mentioned that they would be the ones doing it. And I have to question an alien species that can create starships to go from their planet to earth but couldn't live on their home world or any planet near them. This species is totally suspicious from the start.

I think people have taken the 'not lying' thing a little too literally. Their thoughts are broadcast to eachother (without filter) as lights on their body and so anything thought is known by other members of their race...that's really just it. If you think of a metaphor you broadcast a metaphor, if you think of a falsehood you broadcast that, but in thinking of the falsehood you broadcast the truth as well as both are required thinking about. Over a long range space communication this isn't exactly a problem to decieve people because their is a filter for your thoughts.

The books time skip a lot covering thousand of years. Netflix just glosses over all the backstories of the characters, peoples reasons for doing what they do etc... Mike Evans is fully fleshed out, his motivations all explained in the booksa, netflix doesn;'t bother hes almost a side character

In the books their characters are crucial. Saul is up to really great things and Will… well, I’m not gonna spill anything for you, just wait and see 😉

Man-made climate change was more than a century away when we first identified it as a potential problem, but it feels pretty bloody important now, doesn't it? It's easy to say "not our problem, there's tons of time" when it's not your lives that are on the line, but that's how your descendants end up getting slaughtered because all their ancestors figured they had more important stuff to do. Couple all this with the cryogenic stasis, and suddenly people alive in 2024 are easily capable of surviving until the San-Ti arrive.

They didn't warn humans, a lone person in a listening post did. the pacifist who tries to warn them it's explained in the books and he gets punished for it. His life is basically living in solitary in a small listening post and basically worth nothing to his people and he resents that

@@anonymousone6075 I have read the books, but the television show is quite different than the books. The aliens in the show felt it necessary to call humans bugs and then send this message out to all everyone. That is a stupid move to make if you think one day that human technology might match your own.

⁠@@stephendean2896 Looking at it from a different perspective, the intimidation might be intended to incite chaos and turmoil within human society. This could indeed hinder the advancement of human civilization, although it’s not explicitly depicted in the show

@@user-gk4cs1xw8d “Great Ravine”

it's a strategy meant to replicate people's already existing ideas and expectations about God and his arrival which as you know in this day and age is important to people. The San-Ti used that to convert followers. These followers essentially are able to do the bidding of the San-Ti for them.

The aliens could not have built the headsets -- they are not on earth -- so the humans did, so either A) they were told how -- and then quickly forgot everything they did, or b) the story is just plain stupid and makes not sense -- the main idiot killer tantia or however is spelled is surprised to get a head set so she obviously did not build them -- so who did? and how come the tech is lost? and how come it was never discussed anywhere? silly.

It’s way more interesting than that! 😉

They did solve the problem, it can't be solved so the San tee thought coming to earth and co-exist might work, until the conversation withMike, them releasing at some point earthling will attack them...but, kind of scarely Mike thought of them as "my lord " godly being...dangerous on any world.

Nah man, the San-Ti are the least of the Galaxies problem.

🤫🤫🤫 You’re spoiling it for those who didn’t read Baoshu (Book 4). Btw it’s interesting, will the showrunners include some of his ideas? Like size of trilosarians or details of Will’s encounter with them. It’s considered canon now, so I think they should.

Cmon bro. Why spoil things for everyone else? Good job. Pat on the back for spoiling it you. I bet you’re perpetually single you nimrod..

that's as canon as Brian Herbert's dune books, so guys just ignore it

@@noizz4 well, it's not the same. Brian did a terrible job and there was no one to stop him, he couldn't stop printing. Baoshu just covered the gaps in the story. And Liu Cixin liked it, Baoshu told this in his preface to the book, Liu Cixin even voted for the book on some contest. Apart from Liu himself, his manager liked it and they hired the same translator to publish book in English. So, there're a lot of hints on Baoshu book being accepted as a part of universe.

Me too! I know roughly where that story line is going but can’t quite figure out how that story/joke applies

(Spoilers) Could be a metaphor for the dark forest hypothesis. Playing the violin is like sending a radio signal, that gives away one's location to a more advanced and hostile species ("God"). Saul will later understand this dynamic, and use it as a deterrent against the San-Ti.

​@@helkafen100I also felt like the music was a foreshadowing for the Singer's Race.. the destroyers

Wow. I didn’t get the violin as a radio signal layer of a joke. I thought it wad a hint to “play with God" meaning Saul could use Game Theory principles.

@@iamo0Your game interpretation makes a lot of sense, I like it. Maybe they intended it to be multi-layered, like the fairy tales.

I’m in the exact same boat. I thought they adapted this very well. The books are very dry with characters and Chinese lol

@@wayneeicher5483 Yep, agree. While I found it awesome to read, because I haven't read many non-western sci-fi books, I think a mainly Chinese-focused show wouldn't work very well for western audiences. There is a Chinese adaptation that Quinn from Quinn's Ideas covered, but it looks like they changed a lot - especially anything having to do with the Cultural Revolution.

I didnt like how they the character of Luo Ji into a sex-addicted stoner. They could've made him asian atleast.

@@SuperLOLABC ahahah yeah that was a little weird but look at the people that in schools these days ahah

@@SuperLOLABCthe characterization was the same tbh

Oooooh thats a great thought and I really hope you're right cause I want to see will brought back! But I'm wondering how they know where to aim the capsule

@@drenter7037 yeah I guarantee that's what's going to happen

The droplet will most likely appear in season 2

Didn’t ask

@@aaaggg4135 you’re just a friendly ray of sunshine aren’t you…. Spreading positivity throughout the internet. Good for you ☀️👍

be prepared, it's very sad```I remember after I finished the book, I didn't feel good, it's kind of those books that actually get to you and make you feel you're(we are) a bit worthless and future is just pointless```

Check out the tencent scene of the same part their dialogue and how they put the whole scene together was such a better explanation to what your saying

Look at the tencent version and you can know why... Netflix lost lots of important details which made the story incoherent.

The books, the cop asked them if the technological difference between humans and the trisolarans was bigger than that between the locusts and humans. The locusts survived all these years, so humanity cam too. Although Netflix didn't carry it out well, I agree

Highly recommend you to read the book. Netflix lost lots of important details which made the story incoherent.

@@cool_things_collection appreciate it. The books are always better huh?

To have some sort of double agent, a man in the inside. That is explained in the show. They assume (spoiler: correctly) that the SanTi will jump at the opportunity to have a human specimen to study.

to study cancer LOL @@stephyworld8713

@@stephyworld8713 oh, OK. I guess I just don’t really understand how Will would be able to communicate anything back to earth.

Humm they didn't. Saul is Luo Ji

I liked the clues about Saul being so irresponsible, a very Western version of Luo Ji.

well, Netflix is just trying to make the story more international and political correct. The essence and the core are still there and should be fine.

​@@nickwu6534 just say more woke 😂

​@politicallyincorrect2564 Actually not more woke. There's only one black actor and you have a problem with that. Smfh.

I agree. The direct translation to Trisolarans would be more relevant than adapting the Chinese pronunciation, I am a Chinese so I know what San-Ti refers to but not quite informative to the global audiences. Trisolarans at least emphasize why they are coming and the reason they flee away from their chaotic solar system to survive.

It appears they assume their target audience is to dumb to digest the technical explanations.

As a Chinese I'm especially annoyed by how they pronounced "San Ti". Trisolaran is a far better name

yeh weird choice since its been de-chinesified, to then revert to a chinese version of the name. But to be fair i never got why they aren't just centaurians, i mean, we're presumably not monosolarans to them, and Sol is our particular Sun not their stars alpha, beta, and proxima Centauri, i would have thought tri-stellarians would be pedantically accurate.

Yup the emperor doesn’t forget or forgive xenos