Questions about the shoot- I plan on recording a video today answering questions about this shoot since there are so many people wanting to know a lot of behind the scenes stuff.....so please post your questions as a reply to this comment. I will answer your questions in the video I make today...:) Thanks! Jason

Well at least we now know why Ken doesn't post any of his work. Absolutely terrible, overexposed rubbish. Not even in the same ballpark.

Ken's shots are AMAAAAZING, for a five year old with a 1978 Kodak instamatic with a through and through viewfinder. Epic compositions and shadowy exposures with that incredible "beauty box" he's wielding.

You would be angry too if you paid that much for camera gear & still took bad pictures

You have to work full time to make the gfx look so mediocre

Comment on the shoot- I wrote this on my blog and have also written it on Facebook. But I wanted to leave a comment so people can see it here as well. I'm grateful that Ken took me up on the offer to meet and shoot. It took courage for him to do so and I applaud him for doing it. I found Ken to be nothing but kind, courteous and very sweet. Ken chose to send in his shots unedited, while I edited my shots. Those were decisions that we both made. There were absolutely no pre conditions to this shoot. We could bring whatever gear we wanted and edit the shots however much we wanted. Ken focuses on gear, I focus on shooting. As a professional photographer and shooter I choose to finish my work. Ken shoots far less and chose to post his shots unedited. To be honest with everyone, I really could care less how great Ken's shots turned out. I was so happy to see him out there and shooting which is something I've been challenging him to do for years. He earned my respect for his courage to do this, not for any photography skills that he possesses....great or small. I'm sure we'll have comments positive and negative....but my hope is that we can look at this event as a positive of two former rivals coming together and sharing a great day together. I'll ask my followers to please be respectful with your comments towards Ken. It's fair for anyone to say what they think of the video and shoot, but I just encourage my followers in Fedora Nation to keep it classy. Let's be the example of the best photography community out there....because that's what I'm trying to build...::) Thanks, Jason

This video is the proof that gear does not matter,.... That poor 10k$ GFX set

*Ken takes all his shots in Trash Priority Mode*

Every HSS photo he took had a blown out sky. I think he missed the point of HSS.

I can imagine Polin doing a critique of this and going "Snapshot..... snapshot.....snapshot" on all Ken's images. They were bad.

Ken is the absolute epiphony of "all the gear, no idea" - the man has absolutely no clue what he is doing, its a shame because people out there are actually listening/watching that man for guidance!

Thought i would finally watch this video in its entirety, and what a complete and utter shocker it is! 1, Kens white balance is terrible, too green, which is caused by all that foliage and green grass, no compensation for the green hues, at all. 2, Where is the bokeh? Images that needed the bokeh lacked bokeh immensely, the back grounds were so untidy and distracting. 3, Kens light mod just failed big time, too many shiny skin reflections, sometimes to the point where her skin looked greasy, such ugly highlights/hotspots! 4, Also on the subject of that light mod, surely the reason to bring in a second light source for a shoot is to bring overall balance to an images exposure? Why then, are the backgrounds all blown out? Where is the detail in the sky? Why are the images incorrectly exposed? 5, He never stoops down lower to get a flattering angle, all his images were shot from above her eye level, which does work well, but sadly not in any of kens images here, the poses look so awkward from that angle, the image of her with her arms up and over her head by the barn door was so amateurish that it was embarrassing. 6, He does not fully understand what high key exposures really are, as id evident around 18 minutes into the video. 7, He seems like he is using a wider angle lens when he gets in close, the distortion to the poor girls face makes her look like a stroke victim ffs! Photography is not an easy thing to learn i guess, but surely with all the years he claims to have been a photographer, surely his images should be much, much better than this? His skill set seems to be just one notch up from the guy who uses on-camera flash to shoot a sunset! The images look like my images when i first picked a camera up over 30 years ago! There is absolutely no finesse in his work, no artistry, no creativity (aside from that silly light mod), and barely any understanding of exposure if these images are anything to go by. Taking photography advice from him is like being given cookery lessons from someone who cannot boil an egg properly!

After an evening on researching Ken I’ve concluded two things; he’s all the gear and no idea and; I’m gonna go ahead and ignore his z6ii review and pull the plug and get one.

Ken produces the average photos for an amateur, and Jason the average photos for any photographer with a decent amount of time in the bussines. No saying that they suck, but i dont see anything special either...

He had no idea what he is doing 😂😂😂 these pictures are worse than mobile pictures

jason got the clarity slider on +1000

Angry seems clueless. Who shoots at 3200 iso and a shutter speed of 1/2900 when the subject is stationary? What would be the purpose of that? Like they say in Texas “he’s all hat and no cattle”.

3200 ISO on a sunny day and wide angle for portraits? I guess I've been doing it wrong. haha.

Jason you just destroyed him !!! Seriously Ken Wheeler You have no clue whatsoever about photography !!!

I was hoping they'd swap cameras just for the hell of it. I wanted to see what Jason could do with that Fuji.

you got to have balls when you shoot ISO 1000 in bright daylight :D

I just seen a video Ken made on lighting recommendations.. He talks about how you really need fast recycle times so your not left standing there looking like an "idiot" waiting on the flash to recycle. But, here he is walking around with a lampshade on a string. I really am at a loss for words.

Boy oh boy, Ken.... better keep your ass behind your desk in the basement and never open that door again! And please never get your gear out ever again! This was embarrasing!!!

I bet Wheeler regrets doing this photo shoot. Clearly, he is no photographer. Not even a good amateur one. Lanier probably could have beaten Wheeler with a smartphone or a ten year old compact camera. I actually feel bad for Wheeler.

Clearly, the objective of this video is to show how well two leaders in KZfaq photography can come together and settle their differences. A great job all around. We need more positivity in our world like that shown in this video. Thank you Jason and Ken!

Did Jason say we should have said we were Fro Knows and Matt Granger? LOL

1/2900th sec, f/4, iso 3200...um...what the FUCK? It's like he had the camera in full automatic mode and it just said fuck it, we're playing exposure roulette. Also, I don't think he edited his images at all.

the thumbnail is so savage lol

Jason, im loving your charisma and approach towards uniting talents together. i hope you guys can do it again, and with others. looks like you guys had a fun filled day and it can turn into something much greater if we all were to come together and make videos for everyone to see and learn to work together.

Got my popcorn for these comments ;)

whaaaat? am i in another dimension? jason and the angry photographer together in a photoshoot? shooting the shit and whatnot? i just dont beleive my eyes

AP completely blew out the skies.. he doesn't know what he is doing. Only reason he is known is because he posts religiously on youtube. As a photographer he makes a good camera collector.

Jason Laniers exposure of Ken Wheelers photographic ability: “You have been weighed; you have been measured; and you have been found wanting.”

Jason Lanier sets a good example for his people, he was very kind to AP during this shoot and I can't sing his praises enough!

I just can't stop my Rolleiflex from laughing........

2 bad photographers...

I'm just amused that ken talks so much crap and just manages to reinforce the truth that good gear doesn't make good photos.

13:15 "say something funny I like the laugh" - how about that: You're using ISO 3200! lol

The Angry Photographer's response and interaction with the police is hilarious, he's such a wimpy suckup. No backbone Wheeler!

This whole thing is just awkward.

Some horrible pictures in there. That Ken setup looks rediculous.

Those high-key shots from the stable are amazing. Absolutely gorgeous.

Oh man.. I'm speechless. I feel sorry for people who pays to go to your workshop..

Jason is so 100000% right on, k** needs to go to every one of Jasons workshops.

Jason you are a pure savage. I like that you didn't hate on him and with pleasent manner you proved everyone that skill matters the most. Ken photos look like taken with a point shoot camera even though it was 6500 $ medium format. To be honest your photos looks more retouched than his, but still better composition, bokeh, general vibe and overall quality. Anyway, great video and thank you!

Love it how Jason walks of and Ken manages to almost talk himself into trouble then almost gives the cops ID when he had no reason to.

There's a huge difference between Jason's photos and Ken photos! can you see the difference between photographer and gear collector? good job Jason!

One knows how to take portraits and the other doesn't. Hands up Jason, you really know how to make models look unique.

What's the point of using HSS if overexposing all photos? Fortunately talent cannot be learned. I see one professional and one (bad) amateur photographer...

I think Jason here did a masterpiece of diplomatic-cold-war. Basically you reach him his place asking what is his problem. The guy does not have the balls to tell the same shit while looking into your eyes. First win. Then you cordially invite him out for a shoot, masking everything like comparing two cameras. The difference between the skills of the two photographers is too huge that it does not even need to be stated anywhere. Jason wins hands down, without even having to state that. The images speak for himself. Second win. Last nail in the coffin. Sorry for Ken, because this was a perfect ambush. Jason outsmarted you here.

Machiavellian move by Mr Lanier. What a way to expose him. Well played my friend, Batman would be proud (?)

Why is Ken using 1000 ISO on such a bright day

geese, look at all the hate, can you not understand this is about building bridges and becoming better as people, not who has the biggest balls, get a grip. thank you Jason and ken for a very entertaining video.

Okay if I were Fujii I would request that those images be removed. That was quite embarrassing. Is he shooting in program mode?

Love seeing you and The Angry Photographer shooting together.

Very nice video ! So cool to see you having a great time together :D

Jason, love the way you work with your models. Smooth communication and easy going.

Ken did not edit photos out of camera just so you all know. You can do allot in Lightroom and photoshop. I would like to see Jason's raw file for the real comparison on images. If you are comparing camera gear show raw files.

On the plus side, now he has more photos to make prints of.

Great to see this video Two photographers enjoying photography with the cameras of their choice. I appreciate this because this is supposed to fun. Ken did look out of his element a bit working with a model but he's mentioned he shoots products, birds and landscapes mostly. Intereacting a model is a skill set just like anything else.

Positive proof that Ken is a gear guy. To bad he can't use it. He's more into "look at me" than "look at the model"

if you notice AP really doesn't understand light . Apart from incorrect exposure he also doesn't pay attention to the light falling on the models face. In many of AP pics the nose has an ungainly highlight which ruins the photo. Jason saw this and his pics look amazing. I think its time AP really goes back to the drawing board and learns about light.

Thanks for the video, Jason. It is great to see two rivals in the online community come together, bury the hatchet and take some photos!

The angry photographer gotta get his game up! Compared to Jason's shots it's clear that he's more of a gear guy not a photographer.

If I was Fuji I would sue Ken for this

I'm actually very disappointed with Ken Wheeler. From all his videos, I would have thought he was a better photographer. He might knew his tech but he don't know his camera setting (ISO 3200 and 1/900 or 1/2900) (ISO1600, 1/950).

lmao at the Jared and Matt joke upcoming video: "is it okay to touch the horse" 🤣🤣🤣

It's good to see Ken shooting, i hope you will do more of those in the future, why not a show or a discussion on photography art, gear or anything between you ....... great stuff .....

Such bad photographers ...

$10K camera with $0.10 images. 🤭 The least you could have done Jason was to offer AP a free pass to your workshop 😆

As mildly entertaining the spat between Ken and Jason was I for one am glad it's come to an end. Well done the both of you.

And again, Sony and Jason win. Great video. And you sir have all the class! Ken was very respectful and kind. Hats off to him.

Ken didn't do Fujifilm any favors that day. And I say that as a fuji shooter. The GFX can produce stunning images in the right hands. That said it was good to see you two get on well.

I follow both guys very closely, and like some others believe that they BOTH have something great to offer. Jason and his vision and compositional & strobe mastery, and Ken with his detailed and accurate knowledge of gear... I must admit that I was rather disappointed with the results of Ken's images (HSS outcomes could've been much much better) and it was obvious from the video that Jason had the better vision of angles and camera placement for composition.. But nonetheless, Ken's videos are downright hilarious, with some of his one-liners real classics... Keep it up guys!! After all, Life is Nothing but a Theatre...

It's crazy how the same model can look so different in those shots. Jason got a nice talent, the ability to extract the maximal beauty out of the models.

JL led KW by the nose and gracefully owned him. JL being a seasoned wedding photograper is used to shooting in difficult conditions with tight timing, directing untrained normal normal, and getting great results, this shoot is a walk in the breeze for him. KW on the other hand, is struggling.

The angry photographers results were stunningly awful. I am sorry but they were disappointing. I could have done better with my Sony rx10 m4.

These guys both offer a lot of education for the poor boy shooter. Jason's ability can't be denied. Ken is a gear head from word go. You have to wade knee deep in the rants but the guy can teach you about old lenses, speed lights and cameras a working guy can afford. I personally enjoy both of there channels and have learned from both. Have a A6000 with those cheap sony and sigma lenses but boy do my wife and I have a blast. Even without Zeis written on anything. :)

lol, at Jason's face at 3:26 when Ken shows him, "The beauty box."

One of these photographers is clearly more adept at connecting with the talent. This makes a massive difference..

Ken Wheeler's photos got me an eye cancer, lord please stick with gears reviews and show some mercy to the world and models by not taking their photos.

7:19 AP doesn't know much about lighting. He doesn't shoot period.

I'm a huge Ken fan, you also Jason....I will add you're a class act pro Jason....you're shots are awesome. 🤘🏻🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧

I could watch you 2 shoot together all day. Thanks for the video.

Goes to show knowing how to compose your shot and work with ambient lighting or lighting in general is EVERYTHING. But i feel like Angry Photog is faking it and this is his character shooting, not him.

Well, this is awkward.

good video showing it is still the man.s skills behind great photos and not just expensive gear.

I've been waiting a year for this shoot!! I'll watch it tonight after work.

Whoa! What's going on here? You guys squashed your issues with each other? if so, nice to see man.

Maybe Ken should use his GFX as paper weight in his studio. He's so full of it. Ken better learn a thing or two from Jason on photography and communication. Jason FTW

You're a nice guy, Jason. I'm glad you guys did this.

Jason thanks for fetching out the real personality of the Angry Photographer I admire you both a lot more now

Your images were much better than Kens. I'm not sure he understands what HSS is!

Ken is on Flickr under the name anankephi.

LOL "you should've told them you were Fro knows photo & I was Matt Granger"!

Loved this triplet. A very thoughtful, considered and enlightening presentation. So special to see Ken without a blue backdrop or munching on a Sony microphone. It is so valuable to spend almost two hours on KZfaq and come away knowing that you have finally seen the true souls of those in front of the camera. Too many on here burn bridges instead of building or repairing them. Well done both of you.

Jason, new fan of your work and style. Subscribed and will be pouring over your past content. The shot at around the 21 minute mark...Tiffany is in total shade lying on the ground. Quick question, I noticed your ISO was at 800 and shutter speed cranked at 1/320 with f/2.8. Is there a reason why you chose to increase ISO and not slow the shutter? Many of the shots prior were at ISO 100...even when she was in the shade. Just curious if there was any kind of technical reason for doing it that way? Was there a concern with catching focus and this was simply a way to guarantee the shot? Thanks so much for sharing the images! I've been shooting for about 6 months now and hope to achieve the kind of confidence you displayed during the shoot. It's obvious you see what you want to capture and know how to direct the model. BTW, your logo rocks man! Excellent branding.

So happy to see you together.For those that they compare the photos just to know it's way different cameras and also different style of shooting,there is no standard in photography.Two really educated persons,Jason knows everything about lighting and Ken knows everything about technical that you might never learn.Well done Jason,really nice what you did there.

Thanks Jason and Ken for doing this. I think it is so great to see you guys putting your differences aside and coming together for the sake of photography. I do enjoy watching both your channels. I've learned a lot from both you guys over the years.

Checkmate. Next up, Jines vs. Forbes. Actually, the psychology of Ken in this situation is fascinating. His body language while the model discusses the challenge in finding his online photography presence, his recap of the police "encounter", his interaction with a fellow photographer at 17:25...in my opinion these are more interesting than video proof exposing his lack of understanding even the basic fundamentals of photography...which has been a long time coming. He should have just brought the X-T2 with a proper lens rather than the statement he tried to make by bringing the GFX.