Shooting the 6.5mm 91/38 Carcano Rifle

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314299 Shooting Channel

10 жыл бұрын

Shooting the 91/38 Carcano rifle on the 50th anniversary of the assassination of U.S. president Kennedy. Is the Carcano a clunky piece of junk? Could it have been operated fast enough by Lee Harvey Oswald to have been used in the assassination? Decide for yourself.

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@wayne3340
@wayne3340 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle kept his freezer full of deer and moose with one. He used to headshot ducks with it as ammo was cheaper than shotgun ammo.
@314299
@314299 3 жыл бұрын
I hope the game wardens did not catch him, around here shooting waterfowl with a rifle is a no-no.
@wayne3340
@wayne3340 3 жыл бұрын
@@314299 Understood. This was in the late 40's. Food was scarce.
@Dadecorban
@Dadecorban 2 жыл бұрын
uh huh
@barongaylordkrinjin9844
@barongaylordkrinjin9844 2 жыл бұрын
Why was food scarce in the late 40s?....
@sinfulchickennuggets7093
@sinfulchickennuggets7093 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayne3340 Was it in the US?
@dutchvandermorgan6226
@dutchvandermorgan6226 6 жыл бұрын
I have one. Best rifle I've even shot or owned. I'm poor. It was given to me and I take care of it. Killed my first deer with it. Right through the heart, when I skinned it, the heart was gone, barley an exit wound and it ran 50 yards after being shot
@magadude9131
@magadude9131 4 жыл бұрын
People who say things like " the carcano is slow and clumsy" or " the carcano is a piece of trash" have probably never even fired a carcano, they're just repeating falsehoods they've heard on tv. My 7.35 carcano is my favorite mil-sur rifle hands down !
@brucesz2334
@brucesz2334 4 жыл бұрын
I owned one and found it to be very accurate and I mean spot on! With practice you could pop off those 6 rounds with accuracy within seconds, I've done it. Found it to be a very good rifle. I did not find it to be "clunky".
@Imtahotep
@Imtahotep 2 жыл бұрын
Historian Dr Mark Felton profiled a very successful Italian commando team who preferred the Carcano carbine.
@emmalfal
@emmalfal 9 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the extra angles on this one as well as the fact that you described the loading process. Good stuff. Looks pretty cold out there.
@314299
@314299 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. It was a cool day, but that's not uncommon in November up here.
@PeteSavage-lg9fh
@PeteSavage-lg9fh 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. The different angles help me understand what it would have looked like trying to pull that off on JFK. I wonder if if it had a loose bolt action and hair trigger. Now I have to Google it. Either way would be hard for even the best shooters.
@TheGrenadier97
@TheGrenadier97 6 жыл бұрын
Italian military wasn't a kind of large militia or para-military formation; it was a fully stablished force, even if less powerful compared to others. To say that the service rifle is a "piece of junk" is non-sense. I wonder how this good-looking, simple and easy rifle got such a bad fame.
@eminzeynali6325
@eminzeynali6325 8 жыл бұрын
It's a little bit surprise, but Carcano is very good rifle. Rispetto!!
@italianduded1161
@italianduded1161 5 жыл бұрын
thanks from italy
@giancarlocremonini2852
@giancarlocremonini2852 9 жыл бұрын
in a test carried out by Italian Army the Carcano proved to be more accurate than the Garand. Obviously the Garand is a far better gun than Carcano. But Carcano is not that worse of Nagant, Lebel or other similar ordnance rifles.
@314299
@314299 9 жыл бұрын
The average Garand is not terribly accurate in terms of pure target group shooting, neither are other first generation semi-auto full power rifles like the SVT40. The Carcano was noted for being quite accurate when fed the proper Italian specification service ammunition.
@RME1911
@RME1911 3 жыл бұрын
@@314299 any idea where can I find the specs of the original Italian army 6.5 so I may handload accordingly?
@shockwave6213
@shockwave6213 2 жыл бұрын
@@RME1911 Only thing I know is that they used a .268 (Technically .2675) bullet instead of the typical .264 bullet used in all the other 6.5mm guns. With a 168 grain round nose FMJ, the velocity should be 2,300 feet per second in the rifle and 2,170 feet per second in a carbine version. I guess if you have a Chronograph, you can work up some loads to find it by trial and error. A lot of companies are starting to make correct .268 bullets now. PPU and Hornady being my go-to suppliers.
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 2 жыл бұрын
Guys try to " make ' s carcano as accurate as a 204 Ruger but a carcano was a war gun not a deer rifle but deer dont shoot back #
@gradyhernandez4699
@gradyhernandez4699 2 жыл бұрын
My first hi powered rifle was a carcano back in 1973 in 6 5 x 52 mm
@turdgoblin6113
@turdgoblin6113 4 жыл бұрын
I have 5 carcano's. They all shoot brilliantly! But isn't the model you are shooting take 7.3 not the 6.5? Mine is marked on the rear sight 7.3
@Bidimus1
@Bidimus1 8 жыл бұрын
for those wishing to shoot a Carcano fairly accurately I can recommend either finding the proper diameter bullets being .267 generally and barring that using a 264 diameter round nose bullet extra bearing surface seems to help some at least in mine
@novaman3509
@novaman3509 8 жыл бұрын
If you ask me, the Mannlicher-Carcano was one of the sexiest bolt actions in history. Hell, most Mannlicher type rifles are pretty damn good looking.
@314299
@314299 8 жыл бұрын
+NovaMan 350 They do have a unique look to them.
@jeromezp
@jeromezp 7 жыл бұрын
NovaMan 350 I love the round shaped magazine coming out of the bottom. Rifles like the gewehr 98 feels "naked" to me
@samemo4862
@samemo4862 6 жыл бұрын
Defanetly some of the best looking out there. Though I have a dirty love for the swiss k31 too.
@hoffmiermp
@hoffmiermp 4 жыл бұрын
I picked mine up back in the day at a gun show back in NY for right around 35.00 USD. For the price I couldn't pass it up. It sat in my gun safe for a long time until I got some ammo together for it and had a LTI/PFI performed on it. I was thoroughly impressed with the cartridge and the weapon for being a C+R.
@314299
@314299 4 жыл бұрын
I once bought a Carcanoo at a gun auction for $35, no one else bid on it.
@PokemonHaloFan
@PokemonHaloFan 9 жыл бұрын
Hmm, not bad. The bolt seems to run pretty smooth despite what I've heard. Although the recoil looks a little stiff that's probably due to the shorter barrel. Looks like a decent rifle. Probably accurate enough to do the job in the hands of a pro.
@Barnaulets17
@Barnaulets17 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite rifle!
@LifeofCharles
@LifeofCharles 10 жыл бұрын
I agree, the Carcano has an undeserved reputation for poor quality and handling characteristics. Great angles and great shooting, a high quality production as always!
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I think most of the reputation for poor handling is that so many of these rifles have mismatched bolts in them.
@1anthonybrowning
@1anthonybrowning 10 жыл бұрын
I like the Carcano. I think they are an underrespected weapon. The metallurgy is Czech, the Italians bought the rights. The rifles are pretty accurate. They are light. My Carcano carbine is a lot lighter then my Mosin carbine, so that makes for an easier woods hunting rifle. There is plenty of power to kill anything in my state, TX, including black bear, mountain lion and feral hog. Also, they are often quite affordable, especially if willing to buy one that was previously sporterized on import. The only real drawback is the lack of availability for cheap/plentiful milsurp ammo, like the Mosin has.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
I dont think I have ever seen shootable quantities of surplus 6.5x52 for sale. it's a good thing that PPU makes ammo, at least there is an available option.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
john hinchliff I'd certainly pick a Lee Enfield over a Carcano.
@unionrdr
@unionrdr 7 жыл бұрын
I have the British Enfield dad bought at a local department store in the 60's for $18.99 brand new out of the crate. Dated 1958 with the crown stamp on the receiver. Very good condition too. I saw the ammo is still available as well.
@jeromezp
@jeromezp 7 жыл бұрын
314299 Shooting Channel really much cheaper
@ngzcaz
@ngzcaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@unionrdr I bought a .303 Enfield out of an old oak barrel at 2 Guys & Harrison in Whitehall Pa. for $ 9.99. Long gone, obviously a dumb thing to get rid of it, don't even know if I gave it away or managed to sell it. That was all I could afford at the time.
@danrozanski6130
@danrozanski6130 5 жыл бұрын
Picking up one of these in a couple weeks to go with my full length 1891 Carcano. Produced in 1894 @ Torre Annunziata! I'm geeked to have a shorter version of a great rifle!
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 8 жыл бұрын
If the Carcano was as clunky as people think, the Italians wouldn't have used it; they'd have gone for a copy of the Springfield, Mosin-Nagant, or Mauser action, or something like that; they wouldn't have stuck with a rifle that they knew performed poorly. If it ain't broke, don't fix it; conversely, if it's broke from the outset, don't bother fixing it, just replace it.
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 8 жыл бұрын
***** My point is that, while it isn't great, it isn't terrible either. They could've done a lot worse than the Carcano.
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 8 жыл бұрын
MASTER deBATER. In my limited experience, the speed of the Carcano isn't "bad", but rather it is inconsistent between rifles. Makes sense, considering that, for most of WWII, the Italian arms industry was in just as much of a crunch as the German one.
@Master...deBater
@Master...deBater 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah...that and the fact that most of them are at least sixty plus years old and probably not very well taken care of makes it difficult to know how they performed when new. I have an old Swedish Mauser in 6.5X55 that's smooth as silk and compared to the Carcanos I've handled it cycles like a dream. The thing I really didn't like about the Carcano is the side to side wiggle of the bolt during cycling...I think that's what makes them feel so cheap. But the fact of the matter is the only point that's really critical to accuracy is when the bolt is fully in battery and locked down by the lugs. If it's tight and properly aligned you should have good accuracy. Too bad they don't make the ammo anymore...I'd like to get one just for the novelty of it...of course I wouldn't own a rifle that I couldn't shoot. I do hand load but I don't think you can buy .266-.268 bullets anymore.
@sirxavior1583
@sirxavior1583 7 жыл бұрын
Every weapon system has its pros and cons. The M16 had a poor reputation for jamming in Vietnam. Better training fixed that fault. The problem is the average Italian soldier was poorly trained and motivated to begin with. I would look at how trained, motivated and familiar the operator is with the weapon before anything else. If this was the standard rifle for the SS II bet the Carcano would have a slightly better reputation. Just because there better trained and motivated soldiers.
@chapiit08
@chapiit08 7 жыл бұрын
Privi Partizan makes new ammo for the Carcano. Check on Gunborker.com
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. I can't wait to get a carcano for my collection.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Luckily Carcano rifles and carbines are still quite reasonably priced, so it''s not a big investment to add one to your collection.
@liam9702
@liam9702 3 жыл бұрын
Dislikes are from Jackie Kennedy and all her alts.
@314299
@314299 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't she die back in 1994?
@liam9702
@liam9702 3 жыл бұрын
@@314299 Its just a joke, but she looked young for her age in the 90s,
@ryansantos8330
@ryansantos8330 3 жыл бұрын
@@314299 r/woosh
@Yahb015CatDog
@Yahb015CatDog 7 жыл бұрын
I love this rifle. I got the one with the folding bayonet (missing of course) but from its size to using enbloc clips it is my favorite. I would like to get the model you got as I actually have the bayonet my great grandfather was issued when he was sent to africa. question, do you get a problem when you go to chamber the last round and it goes about halfway through the clip then turns up 90 degrees?
@314299
@314299 7 жыл бұрын
I cant say as I have had that happen to me.
@haroldmordt4421
@haroldmordt4421 Жыл бұрын
Just picked up one at a local gun show. 150 bucks. Shot it yesterday and was surprised at the recoil! Mine is the carbine (6 inches shorter than my Carcano rifle). All of the experts on the Kennedy assignation say that Oswald had 3 shots in about six and a half seconds to hit Kennedy. (According to the Zapruder film). But if he was locked and loaded before he started firing, he could very easily get 2 shots of in 6 seconds. Not sure he could be that accurate though. After firing mine i find it hard to believe He could be so accurate with the recoil i experienced and also shooting this gun indoors! even with ear protection, I found it a very loud report! Just my random thoughts!
@314299
@314299 Жыл бұрын
Oswald was shooting American made ammo loaded with the correct sized .266" bullets, quite accurate stuff. The distances involved were short. The feat achieved by Oswald has been replicated several times under test conditions, it was not an extraordinary or impossible feat.
@italianduded1161
@italianduded1161 6 жыл бұрын
great rifle
@paulkindler8430
@paulkindler8430 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Carcano once i found proper sized bullets was a good shooter. The only reason i don't have it now is i gave it to a younger cousin. it was his first hi- powered rifle for hunting and reloading .
@314299
@314299 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, proper size bullets are a must for decent accuracy, the standard .264" bullets do not perform well.
@mistyodell
@mistyodell 9 жыл бұрын
great vid - love all the angles! I have one of these with the folding bayonet (i think it's the cavalry carbine version) - - - haven't shot it yet but am excited to now! Do you know if it uses the same ammo as the one you have??
@314299
@314299 9 жыл бұрын
The Italian Carcano M38 cavalry carbine was chambered for two different cartridges, the 6.5x52mm and the 7.35x51mm. You should be able to tell by checking the bore size.
@stevenkenney5691
@stevenkenney5691 4 жыл бұрын
i saw some carcanos forsale for like 125. how do i know i have a good one? how accurate are they? im hoping its like a highpoint, ugly as sin but reliable and accurate...ish im just looking for a cheap ww2 gun to get the collection started as i learn what to look for, i just want near mint condition stuff but have no idea how to verify it....i can grade coins, i cant grade rifles for mint, fine, circulated and cull....well, i could probably identify a "cull" rifle but you get the point lol great vid
@sluggob5534
@sluggob5534 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, the rapport was just what was heard in Dallas. Are those the same size bullets Oswald used. Thanx
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Exactly. The Olin/Winchester was loaded for the CIA and was very accurate.
@JHarkness80
@JHarkness80 7 жыл бұрын
What is the range and acuracy over different distances within that range like?
@Sturmvogel
@Sturmvogel 8 жыл бұрын
Cool gun, I like that jacket, who makes it?
@alexcabezaacon4597
@alexcabezaacon4597 5 жыл бұрын
Gracias.
@t18amgr
@t18amgr 4 жыл бұрын
Carcano is a good weapon. It is a shame it is linked to such a crime.
@bojanmilankovic
@bojanmilankovic 10 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about the Carcano that Oswald used is the rather junky Hollywood Ordnance Optics scope he had on the thing. There's really nothing wrong with Carcanos. I'd like to have one someday.
@powerdog242
@powerdog242 10 жыл бұрын
He may not have, actually. The scope location on the Carcano is not located over the top where most rifles have it, it's mounted off to the left side, because the Carcano is load with clips that are inserted from the from the top. But the benefit of that is that unlike with a top-mounted scope, the iron sights for the side-mounted scope are not blocked, so you can still use them if you want to. Being left handed, Oswald would place the gun on his left shoulder and rest his head on the right side of the stock. He'd have to crane his neck around awkwardly to see out of the scope, but aiming through the iron sights would be very easy.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
powerdog242 It would have been a lot easier to hit a moving target with open sights at such a close range with iron sights...
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 2 жыл бұрын
It's surmised he used the iron sights, as the scope was so far off he couldn't have hit a bull in the rear end with it if he had a firm grip on its tail.
@bibleortraditions
@bibleortraditions 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I still believe the Carcano is clunky. By comparison, I shoot a Sig Sauer SSG3000. Super smooth, super fast, super accurate. Question: how is the empty clip removed? Does it fall out, removed through the top?
@benbauer1257
@benbauer1257 4 жыл бұрын
Its supposed to drop out the bottom when you chamber the last round. Also you're comparing a modern sporting rifle to a military rifle that was designed about a 120+ years ago. When you try to put one in the role of the other it doesn't work. They're both fun guns to shoot, but they were both designed for different end purposes. The carcano system is actually pretty resistant to getting neglect and that's great for a military expected to fight in the desert and even more so of one that was primarily having it's ranks filled by people who never shot a gun before they joined the army.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 9 жыл бұрын
I dont know about you or anyone else, but when I get interested in a gun, its like I get bit by something because thats literally all I research or want for a long time (until I buy it or move onto something else haha!) Anyway, I recently have been weirdly obsessed with getting one of these. I think it started when I saw one for a ridiculously low price at a pawn shop, didnt buy it because I thought there had to be a catch, went home to research it and was gone when I went back, damn! And one thing ive noticed is that most ive come across have bolts that look exactly like yours! With that light rusting/freckling! I wonder if it has something to do with the steel or something? Oh ya, and the only reason I havent jumped on one of these is the cost of ammo. I have guns chambered in what I call 'dollar a round calibers' It sucks but I can deal with it.... The catch for me is availability. No where in stores, even sold out online at most places! And Privi is like the only modern manufacturer that I can find and they only produce it in 'runs'... Pretty discouraging so far. Im not one of those people thats like: I dont collect anything, all of my guns have a purpose/role!... I love history and collecting and im still considering one of these, ive just been discouraged by the ammo is all... Thanks for the review/video by the way!
@SonOfTheDawn515
@SonOfTheDawn515 8 жыл бұрын
I've gotten those bugs and have them for a couple others as well
@czzted99
@czzted99 7 жыл бұрын
the thing... i respect u
@italianduded1161
@italianduded1161 6 жыл бұрын
this is just one of my favourite bolt action rifles
@sclay-1237
@sclay-1237 6 жыл бұрын
I have one from 1939
@italianduded1161
@italianduded1161 5 жыл бұрын
damn awesome
@lukyman15
@lukyman15 10 жыл бұрын
would I be able to get these rounds at my local gunshow? is there a website? I have one of these at my house and it's pretty old how can I tell if it's safe to shoot?
@michaelreece3776
@michaelreece3776 5 жыл бұрын
I actually own the same rifle. My great grandfather traded his K98 for one in Italy when he marched back from the southern USSR. Did you load the ammo yourself or did you buy from a source? all I have for it is about 20rds of period stuff that I'm too scared to use. its probably been sitting in the bandolier for 60 years...
@anisocoro
@anisocoro 9 жыл бұрын
The Carcano has the barrel a bit longer than the Springfield 1903 and, at least if there is not too degradation of the inner bore, progressive rifling, so it should be at least as accurate as the 1903 or the Garand, which have, as I know, a 24-inched barrel. Of course there is some trouble with the steel of the bore. in Italy, where I live, it has always been difficult to have special steels
@dbsidekick
@dbsidekick 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video really. Many of us do not know of such information. It would be good to give it a speed run. The scope is not necessary. Many people have told us that this was not a rifle that would work well enough, but in the hands of a professional, and at short distances, it appears to us that three rounds could be fired successfully. The power of the gun also was criticized, but bullet powder looks like enough.
@pgal6904
@pgal6904 6 жыл бұрын
is there a way for you to load those rounds with a powder similar to the time? Another point I want to ask you is this rifle as as "smooth" as you shot it. Remember the rifle action did snooth out with wear from cycling that bolt.
@314299
@314299 6 жыл бұрын
Duplicating the burn speed and performance of the original powder is not difficult to do with the wide selection of reloading powders on today's market. The difficult thing to duplicate is the projectile. The ammunition used by Oswald was loaded by the Western Cartridge Company, it used a .266" diameter 160 grain round nose full metal jacket bullet. To the best of my knowledge no company manufactures bullets of this type. Common 6.5 bullets for reloading are .264", too small to be accurate in the Carcano barrel. Hornady makes a 160 grain soft point hunting bullet for the Carcano, but it is too large in diameter at .267", and can cause excessive pressure in many Carcano rifles. As for the smoothness of operating the Carcano bolt, this varies considerably from rifle to rifle. Most Carcano rifles in North America do not have their original bolts in them due to the rifles being surrendered during the Italian defeat. Rifles with replacement bolts are much more "balky" to operate than one with it's original bolt. A carcano with it's original bolt is quite smooth and slick operating. I am fairly sure my rifle does not have it's original bolt, which makes it less smooth operating than it would otherwise be.
@dustyflair
@dustyflair 5 жыл бұрын
how accurate was it? what was made im 2003?
@vladimirmilosevic709
@vladimirmilosevic709 8 жыл бұрын
beautiful rifle I need that in my collection
@314299
@314299 8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Larson Luckily they are still reasonably priced.
@vladimirmilosevic709
@vladimirmilosevic709 8 жыл бұрын
+314299 Shooting Channel my uncle has one I've been slowly buying his collection I'm getting his reising model 50 45acp full auto all original matching numbers with original sling I'm also getting his arisakas Lee enfields and straight bolt Swiss rifles and early 1950s Russian sks
@camsnyder2636
@camsnyder2636 8 жыл бұрын
+314299 Shooting Channel How much are they.
@vladimirmilosevic709
@vladimirmilosevic709 8 жыл бұрын
$300 tops for a pristine condition rifle
@camsnyder2636
@camsnyder2636 8 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@Toolness1
@Toolness1 Жыл бұрын
Carcanos vary widely in quality as I learned by buying 6 of various models. Some are pretty smooth, most are clunky and rough (of the ones I own). It's kind of like Mosins. I have an M91 and some Finn 91/30s that are really smooth. But try a mid to late war 91/30 that was made under extreme duress and haste and they can be super rough.
@314299
@314299 Жыл бұрын
The big issue with Carcano's is the fact that many of them don't have their original bolts in them. I suspect the ones you have that work smooth have the proper original bolt in them and the rough ones have a random bolt in them.
@SnowyOwl2000
@SnowyOwl2000 9 жыл бұрын
Can I ask if anyone knows the velocity of the rifle alleged to be used by Oswald would be powerful enough to not only go through one man but two?
@314299
@314299 9 жыл бұрын
SnowyOwl2000 Penetration is not a function of only velocity, the sectional density of the bullet and the shape of the bullet play an important part in penetration. Round nose full metal jacket 6.5mm bullets like the ones use in the Western Cartridge company loaded rounds are noted for their ability to penetrate quite deeply.
@lukyman15
@lukyman15 10 жыл бұрын
thanks buddy :)
@tommyg770
@tommyg770 3 жыл бұрын
My absolute favourite gun of all time
@314299
@314299 3 жыл бұрын
They seem more popular at the moment with all the recent imports into the USA.
@chrisvaldes1
@chrisvaldes1 5 жыл бұрын
Such a nice rifle I had seen this at the gun show for $400
@x308er
@x308er 3 жыл бұрын
They are like $249 right now .. crazy
@GenericShirtNinja
@GenericShirtNinja 3 жыл бұрын
@@x308er not in Canada
@jamesonspencer7562
@jamesonspencer7562 7 жыл бұрын
I have an M41 Carcano and the bolt will ride right over the last round in the clip, almost like the magazine follower isn't pushing it up all the way. If anyone knows what the problem might be please respond.
@Gungeek
@Gungeek 6 жыл бұрын
yeah that sounds like the problem.
@francisallen5681
@francisallen5681 5 жыл бұрын
I have took countless hogs with my 7.35x51 carcano all were in one shoulder and out the other the carcano was the first rifle I ever owned my dad gave it to me in 1970 when I was 14 years old I have took deer elk with my carcano in Alaska
@ag4allgood
@ag4allgood 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think a skull would do to the 6.5 mm Full Metal Jacket Bullet fired from about 190 feet from that Carcano rifle ? My guess is that it would go straight thru & the Bullet might have some front end scarring but remain intact much better than the 1st Bullet that hit JFK & Connally.
@ivansquire5647
@ivansquire5647 8 жыл бұрын
I just bought one its a carbine model. I have a question how do u hold the front blade middle low or even. If any tips plz tell me
@314299
@314299 7 жыл бұрын
Hold the blade even with the top of the rear sight.
@RebelSonBand
@RebelSonBand 8 жыл бұрын
what about the clip holder ? the metal thing the bullets were in ? do you take it out again and reuse ? the shells go flying when the bolt is pulled and the bullets sits in the target ?
@MK-bx7ou
@MK-bx7ou 8 жыл бұрын
the en bloc was supposed to fall out of the bottom once the sixth round was loaded. my guess it was just too old to do that function. yes they are reusable as well.
@bennettguns3809
@bennettguns3809 4 жыл бұрын
I've aquired a barreled action for a 91/24 Carcano that I now need a stock for, any help from you would be greatly appreciated, please?
@314299
@314299 4 жыл бұрын
You may want to check out www.libertytreecollectors.com, they sometimes have Carcano parts.
@mujdatozc
@mujdatozc 10 жыл бұрын
Maximum range how metres ?
@sorenjensen8867
@sorenjensen8867 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, l was wondering if you would look down the barrel of your 91/38 and please tell me how many lands and grooves it has and do you think it’s an accurate rifle? Thank you.
@314299
@314299 11 ай бұрын
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@A.Chp-Schweppes
@A.Chp-Schweppes Жыл бұрын
Hello, interesting video. I've just bought a Carcano M38 cavalry, I am accostumed to WW2 bolt action rifles, but I really struggle to understand the fixed iron sights of the M38... I miss every time even at 50 yds ... Can eomeone enlighten me with the use of Carcano fixed rear sight (V notch)...
@314299
@314299 Жыл бұрын
I believe the fixed sights are zeroed for 300 meters, so that might explain your difficulty at 50 yards.
@sharpie443
@sharpie443 10 жыл бұрын
I've wanted to pick up one of those for a long time.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
They are still reasonably priced. If you can try to find one with a matching bolt, they work a lot slicker.
@TheJohn039
@TheJohn039 6 жыл бұрын
Buon fucile. il sistema è Manllicher, otturatore ispirato al Mauser. non aveva niente di innovativo ma è stato progettato ispirandosi al meglio dei fucili dell'epoca. forse può sembrare rozzo, ma è fatto con buoni materiali (dovettero pagare il brevetto di un acciaio speciale cecoslovacco), la manutenzione è semplice e balisticamente è abbastanza preciso. forse il calibro è un po' leggero (era stato studiato un 7,35 mm ma la guerra ha bloccato la sostituzione dei 6,5 con il nuovo calibro). poco costoso e facile da produrre, è quello che serve in guerra. francamente preferirei un Carcano91 o un Mosin al Mauser, che se gela o è sporco non spara più.
@noob5000000
@noob5000000 8 жыл бұрын
Was the last round of the second magazine much louder than the rest?
@314299
@314299 8 жыл бұрын
+noob5000000 No actual difference in sound, it's the camera's built in microphone at work it adjusts the audio.
@jdewitt77
@jdewitt77 8 жыл бұрын
Good video. A standard infantry rifle. Not great but not bad either. Should have had a large bullet. Action looks a little rough too. Is the bolt perhaps from another rifle and thusly too big or too small?
@314299
@314299 8 жыл бұрын
+jdewitt77 Yes the .264 is too small. And yes, the bolt is mismatched and a bit large making the bolt bind a bit when open. a matched bolt would be much smoother working.
@mustafaalgharibawi9556
@mustafaalgharibawi9556 8 ай бұрын
هل توجد حاليا معامل تصنع هذا السلاح ولكن حديث ويكون العتاد متوفر وبسعر مناسب انا اعتقد ان هذه البنادق اقوى من البنادق الحديثة
@314299
@314299 8 ай бұрын
No one has manufactured the Carcano design since the end of world war two.
@user-gm5bv2ez2r
@user-gm5bv2ez2r 7 ай бұрын
That M38 Carcano IMHO is the best of all the Carcanos, although I love shooting my 1895 M91 - it has a gain-twist, like the pre WW1 Enfields, still trying to notice the accuracy. BY THE WAY that 6.5 Western ammo you have there reeks of history. It was contracted by the CIA for a coup in communist Albania, an old Fascist Italian vassal state, lots of Carcanos. The plan was scrapped, & the 6.5 ammo was surplused..... Oswald bought a few boxes of it, & the rest is history. The US & USSR tested the M38s shooting ability w infantrymen & snipers. In either case, the rifle was accurate & fast. Oswald failed USMC sniping courses, no disgrace. I have been told the rifle he had came from Mussolini's guard unit, & was marked with crossed rifles over a target, a rifle chosen for its accuracy. To all the conspiracy theories I say "the truth is stranger than fiction"
@timlodge8940
@timlodge8940 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’m loading the clips wrong, it seems like the bolt doesn’t want to pick up the next round
@314299
@314299 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps your rifle has a weak magazine follower spring.
@timlodge8940
@timlodge8940 3 жыл бұрын
@@314299 I may have to watch some videos on how to fix that lol. I thought it was the bolt at first so I disassembled it and cleaned it really well, but I still have the same problem, thanks for replying.
@casewhite5048
@casewhite5048 5 жыл бұрын
almost that time again
@chrisbaker5302
@chrisbaker5302 10 жыл бұрын
I don't know what brass you are using for your reloads but the extractor groove on Norma brass is a little small May be contributing to the balky feeding , my carcano really sucked with the Norma stuff ,
@powerdog242
@powerdog242 10 жыл бұрын
Try looking for Hornady ammo. They have the proper extractor groove AND the porper bullet diameter, so not only does it feed like a dream, it shoots very accurately as well. With the recent ammo panic, they've temporarily stopped production in lieu of more popular ammo that sells more quickly, but you can still find it online if you look.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
My brass is reformed 6.5x54 MS brass made by Dominion. Rim dimionsion is quite close to the original, not as thick as Norma. My chargers are probably at fault for the somewhat balky feeding.
@2009Berghof
@2009Berghof 5 жыл бұрын
I was shooting at a tin can with one of the many Carcanos I have owned. Distance was about the same as that fateful day in November. My 6.5 had the issue sights (no scope) which shoots very high at this range so I had to use Kentucky adjustment. I was shooting off-hand, no window sill rest. I shot at the can as fast as I could. Of the six rounds I kept the tin can flying or skipping five times. I was hitting it or hitting close enough that the dirt was moving the can. what did this teach me? No doubt in my mind that Oswald could have done this! He had a scope and rest. As to the sound of another shooter coming from the opposite direction. The answer is simple-echo. Perhaps some people who have not shot a lot have never experienced this? I have.
@314299
@314299 5 жыл бұрын
Another thing to think about is that firing a supersonic bullet creates two sound signatures, one the report from the muzzle and the other from the supersonic shock wave off the bullet. A person downrange can hear these as two noises, depending on how far away they are.
@mattwells5347
@mattwells5347 6 жыл бұрын
I kind of like how the Carcano can fire six bullets instead of five like most other bolt action rifles I hear about
@shockwave6213
@shockwave6213 2 жыл бұрын
The K31 and M1917 would like to have a word with you.
@myaim0777
@myaim0777 10 жыл бұрын
The question is, how many clips do you have? :)
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
Not many. Three or four, I think.
@XCUDDLES97
@XCUDDLES97 9 жыл бұрын
My gramps gave me his 1891 Calvary carbine today I've taken it apart 3 times and can't wait to find some ammo to shoot it. I figure it's gonna kick pretty well being so small. To be as old as it is , it's in good shape.
@314299
@314299 9 жыл бұрын
Austin driver despite the small size and light weight they dont really recoil all that much as the round is quite mild.
@tseesttseesttseesttseest6462
@tseesttseesttseesttseest6462 5 жыл бұрын
thx
@314299
@314299 5 жыл бұрын
No problem
@artifactman660
@artifactman660 4 жыл бұрын
Nice but it's not as smooth as the A3 03 or the jungle carbine. But I love this rifle!! Thanks for the video!
@user-dp9ce1dl2p
@user-dp9ce1dl2p 6 жыл бұрын
The gun is very good
@toddtoddtard1886
@toddtoddtard1886 6 жыл бұрын
I tried stoping my carcano it went through 6 logs 2 shovels and 1 4x4 and i could not find it
@dirtyjesus6137
@dirtyjesus6137 8 жыл бұрын
How in the hell do you even load the rounds into the En-bloc? I have the 1940 6.5 Carcano rifle. I do have the correct en-bloc's and 6.5x52 ammo. but it will not fit.
@314299
@314299 8 жыл бұрын
+Dirty Jesus The first five should go in to the clip easy enough, the sixth needs to be slipped back into the clip in a fashion opposite to the way the bolt would strip it out for feeding.
@carcanogary
@carcanogary 10 жыл бұрын
Hey 314, nice video. You gonna be doing any reloads with the Hornady .267 bullet? If so, what powder you gonna use? Cheers, Gary.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
I have no plans on reloading with the .267" bullet anytime soon, I would rather get some .264" 160gr roundnose, they are safer in all Carcano rifles and still decent in accuracy.
@g-townjohnny7740
@g-townjohnny7740 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video. I noticed that some rounds sounded louder than others. In the second clip, for example, the last round fired seemed to result in an especially loud report. Is this something that you have noticed and is there an explanation for it?
@314299
@314299 9 жыл бұрын
The difference in sound level is caused by the camera microphone, it auto adjusts for sound level which ends up making the shots sound different, in reality all the shots sounded the same.
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 5 жыл бұрын
I've read there were quality control issues with the original Italian ammo made during WWII, variations in the powder charge, flash hole sizes, depending on who made them and when.. If those were reloads, they likely were well crafted and the explanation correct.
@utahmaximus2984
@utahmaximus2984 5 жыл бұрын
nice rifle
@314299
@314299 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's in decent condition.
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 2 жыл бұрын
The bad reputation the Carcano had for accuracy was likely due to some of them having gain twist rifling. The were later shortened into carbines, resulting in them losing the gain twist portion of their rifling. The remaining rifling wasn't fast enough to stabilize the standard 6.5 Carcano projectile. Looks like the engineers who came up with the idea of converting the longer rifle barrels would have known that. And the diameter of post war bullets being too small to properly engage the rifling.
@314299
@314299 2 жыл бұрын
There is a common misconception regarding the nature of the gain twist rifling used in the Carcano. Most people think that the twist rate increases for the entire length of the barrel, however that does not seem to be the case. The twist rate changes from the throat to a point partway down the barrel whereupon it becomes a constant twist after that. Long rifles can indeed be cut down to be shorter and still be accurate, which is why the Italians did this to some military issued Carcano rifles. The accuracy "issue" with Carcno rifles is almost entirely due to commercial ammo being loaded (for the most part) with undersized .264" bullets instead of the .266-.267" size bullets used in military spec ammo.
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Carcano back in the 1960's. It keyholed badly. Got rid of it and never looked back.
@314299
@314299 2 жыл бұрын
Your rifle probably "keyholed" for a couple of reasons. First the ammo you were shooting might have had vastly undersized bullets compared to what the original ammo used. I have seen commercial ammo with bullets as small as .263" whereas the proper ammo uses .267". Next possibility your rifle might also have had a cut down barrel and with the gain twist used in the Carcano you end up with effectively an under-spun, unstable bullet. Original condition Carcano rifles and ammo are famous for having exceptional bullet stability and penetration, so clearly there was an issue with your rifle and/or ammo.
@MrDanpay
@MrDanpay 5 жыл бұрын
Hi what kind of loading you had and what was the accuracy?
@314299
@314299 5 жыл бұрын
The ammo was a reload with a .264" diameter 140 grain soft-point bullet, these bullets are under size for the Carcano which should have .266" bullets, accuracy as a result with these was not that good.
@tropifiori
@tropifiori 10 жыл бұрын
Reloads. I think they are pretty hot as the primers seemed flattened out.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
It can be difficult matching reloads up to the original sight settings, you need to closely match the original bullet weight, profile and the velocity.
@earnestward9465
@earnestward9465 3 жыл бұрын
At 0:54 the closeup of the en bloc clip loaded with six rounds - the cartridge on the far left appears to have a shorter case and lower shoulder. Is this due to misalignment? Or are we looking at 2 different calibers?
@314299
@314299 3 жыл бұрын
The rounds are not seated evenly in the clip.
@DrawntoAdventure
@DrawntoAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
@@314299 does that effect your feeding? (My son and I are new to the M91, so I'd like to know how picky the guns are regarding tolerances. Thanks.)
@xzqzq
@xzqzq Жыл бұрын
Decent looking mil-surplus piece. Reading about it in Stephen Hunter's " Third Bullet ". Have never shot, or even seen one in the flesh.
@314299
@314299 Жыл бұрын
Good book?
@xzqzq
@xzqzq Жыл бұрын
@@314299 Yes
@mikewaltz3433
@mikewaltz3433 7 жыл бұрын
are you able to dry fire the Carcano ? i ask because my neighbor gave me one and i tried to dry fire it and no sound or function at all...i was wondering if it had to be loaded to fire or is there a mechanical issue.
@314299
@314299 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can dry fire a Carcano. Ity does sound like there is something wrong with yours.
@mikewaltz3433
@mikewaltz3433 7 жыл бұрын
yes that was my thought too...thanks much.
@juliuscervantes3974
@juliuscervantes3974 Жыл бұрын
Wow perpect beautiful gun
@314299
@314299 Жыл бұрын
It's in decent shape.
@qigong1001
@qigong1001 5 жыл бұрын
Question.According to the Warren report, the FIRST bullet hit Kennedy through the neck, then through Conally's chest/damages some ribs, then goes through Conally's wrist, then lodged in his thigh. Conally disputes this. Anyway, photos of the alleged bullet found, show its slightly rounded at the tip, and the jacket intact. The bullet was a 1.2" copper jacket lead core. Knowing what you know about shooting and hunting, is it plausible that this bullet maintains its shape from 80 yards going through all these layers?
@314299
@314299 5 жыл бұрын
The military loading of the 6.5 Carcano features a heavy for caliber bullet with a high sectional density. The bullet also has a very stable shape, and has a sturdy full metal jacket. Also the bullet is moving at modest velocity. With all these features I think it possible for the bullet to have penetrated those targets and still be intact.
@qigong1001
@qigong1001 5 жыл бұрын
@@314299 Okay, so for us laymens, some bullets are just better made for this type of impact. It sounds a'lot of structural design went into making of these bullets. Thanks. I was was watching recent episode of Joe Rogan podcast with skeptic, Michael Shermer. Joe(who hunts) believes the bullet should be in worse shape. But, based on your explanation, I'd probably respond that there are 'hunting' bullets and 'military style' bullets. Would you say this would be accurate?
@314299
@314299 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is basically correct. Hunting bullets are, for the most part, designed to expand on impact while military bullets are designed to penetrate and not expand. In fact international treaties prohibit military bullets that expand like hunting bullets do.
@davidearea2987
@davidearea2987 7 жыл бұрын
The Carcano works pretty well in Snipe Elite 4!!!
@vroomkaboom108
@vroomkaboom108 6 жыл бұрын
does that game even have a carcano?
@Vincent-pd9vo
@Vincent-pd9vo 5 жыл бұрын
Massa' Tobias yes
@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654
@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 2 жыл бұрын
Sniper Elite 3 Africa has a Mannlicher Medello 91 Carcano in the DLC package.
@360Nomad
@360Nomad 8 жыл бұрын
Nine Kennedys watch this video
@314299
@314299 8 жыл бұрын
+360Nomad They never could take a joke.
@Ruckus1025
@Ruckus1025 8 жыл бұрын
Hhahaha
@314299
@314299 5 жыл бұрын
@@buzzs7274 Thanks! Goodbye!
@valdez57700
@valdez57700 4 жыл бұрын
Magnifico !
@314299
@314299 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@johnh6561
@johnh6561 8 жыл бұрын
Why is it so damn hard to find pics or vids of this rifle's groups? No paper or reactive targets?.......
@314299
@314299 8 жыл бұрын
+John H Find me some ammo loaded with the proper original size .266" bullets and I'd be glad to make a video showing the target. Otherwise it's pointless showing targets shot with undersized .264" bullets, as they are just too small to be accurate. Groups with undersized .264" bullets suck, but that's not the rifles fault. With the proper .266" bullets that were loaded in military specification ammo the Carcano was noted for accuracy. The Italian army used the Carcano in shooting competitions until they ran out of the original ammo.
@xpert9001
@xpert9001 10 ай бұрын
Quick question. Would it be ok for me to use the sound effects for my short film?
@314299
@314299 10 ай бұрын
Feed free to use what ever gun noises you want from the video. You can give me credit for them if you wish.
@xpert9001
@xpert9001 10 ай бұрын
Will do. I appreciate it! Thank you @@314299
@joelangley2568
@joelangley2568 9 ай бұрын
How do you get the bolt to work so smooth?
@314299
@314299 9 ай бұрын
I did nothing to the bolt. I suspect it's the original bolt for the rifle, which is why it works nicely. A lot of Carcano rifles out there have mis-matched bolts which can lead to balky operation.
@1crimm
@1crimm 10 жыл бұрын
good vid
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@boarzwid1002
@boarzwid1002 2 жыл бұрын
For advanced reloading just swedge down. .270 bullets to. 268 By using your reloading press and a custom sizer
@314299
@314299 2 жыл бұрын
.268" bullets may be OK in older Carcano rifles, but in the later production like the 1941 Carcano that might well be too large. Italian military rounds were loaded with .266" bullets. As for swaging jacketed bullets down a ".270" bullet is .277", so reducing them by eleven thousands is asking a lot of a regular reloading press and my break components.
@boarzwid1002
@boarzwid1002 2 жыл бұрын
314299 Shooting Channel never had any problems swedgeing 270 gr .366 to. 358 for my heavy Whalen load
@michaelwilks6268
@michaelwilks6268 2 жыл бұрын
It might be accurate but it takes a while (I'm not a gun person) it seems to adjust the bolt, aim and then fire.
@314299
@314299 2 жыл бұрын
It's not the fastest action to operate but it's adequate.
@randallbrown2779
@randallbrown2779 7 жыл бұрын
Where did you get this rifle? Are they still available?
@314299
@314299 7 жыл бұрын
I think I purchased this at a gun shop where it had been traded in.
@abergethirty
@abergethirty 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the firing characteristics would be if you bottlenecked that cartidge a bit more and used .223 bullet instead.
@314299
@314299 7 жыл бұрын
Something similar to a 22-250 Remington would result.
@stokesjack
@stokesjack 4 жыл бұрын
How do you remove the clip?
@314299
@314299 4 жыл бұрын
Clips in perfect condition clips should fall out the bottom when empty. Slightly warped/used clips my not fall out when empty but the next full one inserted will push the empty one out.
@williamyoung8367
@williamyoung8367 Жыл бұрын
i have one of these handed down to me. I am looking for ammunition. does anyone know where i can purchase some? on the barrel it says .735m. can i use 6.5mm as shown in this video? Thanks for the help.
@314299
@314299 Жыл бұрын
No you cannot use 6.5 in your rifle. Your rifle uses the 7.35×51mm Carcano round. www.steinelammo.com/product/7-35-x-51mm-carcano-150gr-rnfp-20rds/
@williamyoung8367
@williamyoung8367 Жыл бұрын
@@314299 Thank you for the reply. i will check this out.
@MichiganGunGuy
@MichiganGunGuy 10 жыл бұрын
Has your rifle been counter bored? Your muzzle looks much wider than mine.
@314299
@314299 10 жыл бұрын
No, it's not counter bored.
@MichiganGunGuy
@MichiganGunGuy 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Maybe perspective.
@joshuahenderson
@joshuahenderson 4 жыл бұрын
Had the chance to shoot a carcano once. I have to be honest, I was a little dissapointed because I was supposed to shoot the .303 brit, which I had shot before, but this was the one brought. Compared to the .303, it was clunky and not as smooth. But now i wish I would have enjoyed the opportunity a little bit more.
@314299
@314299 4 жыл бұрын
Were you shooting original military ammo, commercial ammo or reloads?
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