Dell Has Destroyed the XPS - Dell XPS 16 (2024)

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Dell... what's going on, bud? Alex usually begs me to cover XPS laptops, but lately, he's felt like the XPS lineup has lost its way. With rising price tags, middling entry specs, and questionable design changes, has Dell destroyed the XPS?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 The XPS 16 is... different
0:21 Unboxing and weight
2:37 Ports
3:46 Sponsor - brand
4:37 Display impression and LABS test results
6:52 Keyboard and trackpad impressions
9:35 Specs
10:49 LABS performance test results and gaming impressions
12:38 Speaker impressions
14:15 Webcam impressions
14:51 Teardown and LABS battery test results
16:59 Pricing and overall thoughts
18:25 Outro

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@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts 14 күн бұрын
It's become a meme at this point that companies adopt the worst part of Apple's products instead of borrowing from the very few GOOD parts (modular USB-C, amazing hinges). I would love to know who ultimately makes these decisions.
@Deses
@Deses 14 күн бұрын
These decisions weren't made by the greatest technician that's ever lived.
@cosminmilitaru9920
@cosminmilitaru9920 14 күн бұрын
cheers bro! awesome channel!
@supersammy149
@supersammy149 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, you're not wrong. I think their just trying out stuff that made Apple somewhat successful with their line of products, and just cheaping it out a whole bunch just in case if people don't like it, then they won't be wasting too much money. Great channel man, keep it up!
@Kyle_116
@Kyle_116 14 күн бұрын
To be fair, something like hinges would be a patented design nobody else can use.
@jasperdesamparado6707
@jasperdesamparado6707 14 күн бұрын
The greatest technician that's ever lived
@adamprestidge4775
@adamprestidge4775 14 күн бұрын
Dell: We make Apples bad decisions but 10 years after.
@laeven_
@laeven_ 14 күн бұрын
That's some insane latency
@CricketEngland
@CricketEngland 14 күн бұрын
At lease it comes with decent specs as basic unlike Apple
@amitkulkarni3922
@amitkulkarni3922 14 күн бұрын
@@CricketEngland Apple now uses efficient arm chips in their laptops so spec-wise they're quite good. Dell uses Intel chips and has a significantly lower TDP compared to other comparable Windows laptops.
@CricketEngland
@CricketEngland 14 күн бұрын
@@amitkulkarni3922 still only comes with 8GB ram and in most cases 256 SSD as standard and the charge you £200/$200 to upgrade each to decent levels
@mavrickfaust2751
@mavrickfaust2751 14 күн бұрын
@@CricketEngland the ram on Macs feel like more than its is because of how efficient m2 is. Storage if you more, 200 bucks an upgrade is rape. luckily I don't need it.
@arijitsanyal6298
@arijitsanyal6298 14 күн бұрын
Dell is the definition of not learning from the mistakes of others. Why would you put controversial button layout (or lack thereof) in your laptops after the community has literally proven that its bad? I don't get them, also it weighs as much as a gaming laptop now without being able to game like one in the same price bracket.
@jsVfPe3
@jsVfPe3 14 күн бұрын
Yeah the G16 is such an obviously superior choice for the same price.
@nerddeku9675
@nerddeku9675 14 күн бұрын
Exactly, for example I always loved the extremely thin 4k screen, now they ruined everything else, literally getting a galaxy book 4 ultra is much cheaper and apart from the screen resolution it wins in everything, I really hope that in 2025 they solve it all these problems then maybe I'll finally buy one.
@vxer
@vxer 13 күн бұрын
The keyboard layout seems fine to me. Idk what you on about saying it was proven bad. Layout is a preference.
@matthewjbauer1990
@matthewjbauer1990 12 күн бұрын
Yeah. If Dell is gonna give us a touch function row, make it a screen that we can customize or something like a Stream Deck's buttons instead of just static capacitive touch buttons to replace functions to cram in functions on the top row. What a shame. Also, USB-C/Thunderbolt and dedicating one for charging (plus a dongle) is insane in 2024 considering that Dell has a 90w barrel jack AC adapter small enough to fit that chassis.
@jothain
@jothain 8 күн бұрын
@@vxer It sucks. You're likely the only one in addition to designer of that who likes it
@delta_cosmic
@delta_cosmic 14 күн бұрын
Literally the XPS are trying to hard to be like a macbook before 2021. Design over functionality comes at a huge cost.
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 14 күн бұрын
honestly Dell are on a huge loss strike right now, Apple are fixing their mistakes and are using much more efficient chips, Asus is slimming down their G14 and G16 and making them very portable, Lenovo is starting to use top end components for their Yoga pro 9i 14" and 16", and even HP joined in with the Transcend 14, even Razer blades are better value and more usable than the XPS as this point
@bigbubba0439
@bigbubba0439 14 күн бұрын
The MacBooks still put design over functionality. My M1 MacBook Air throttles whenever it has to do anything with the performance cores
@brontiago
@brontiago 14 күн бұрын
That doesn’t really describe the Apple Silicon Macbooks though. They’re the best all around laptops right now
@slavb0i646
@slavb0i646 14 күн бұрын
@@bigbubba0439 thats a macbook air, what do you expect from a super slim nice looking machine, but not functionally good?
@aussiegruber86
@aussiegruber86 14 күн бұрын
I owned a MacBook Pro and it was junk
@magicmanchloe
@magicmanchloe 14 күн бұрын
7:57 if Apple realized how bad the touch bar was and rolled it back. You would think Dell would think twice before making a knock off of it?
@Noah-Lach
@Noah-Lach 14 күн бұрын
Not just a knockoff, but a knockoff that keeps all the worst aspects while removing every positive feature of the Touch Bar, as well.
@MrPruske
@MrPruske 14 күн бұрын
They've been using touch bar stuff for so long lol
@watercannonscollaboration2281
@watercannonscollaboration2281 14 күн бұрын
Lenovo tried a touch bar on the 2nd gen X1 Carbon and ditched it after 1 generation. You’d think that Dell would sacrifice some thermals for giving us a function row
@heroninja1125
@heroninja1125 14 күн бұрын
The worst part is. They never implement touch bars as an addition, it always replaces something. The touch bar would be useful if it was in addition to a function row, but it replaces the function row which is much more useful.
@djp_video
@djp_video 14 күн бұрын
The sad part about it is that Dell already went down the touchbar route with the Studio XPS 16 back in 2010. It was horrible! And they removed it on the replacement model. Obviously they didn't learn anything from that.
@DeviateDefi4nt
@DeviateDefi4nt 14 күн бұрын
Dell absolutely lost their mind with that keyboard layout. As a programmer reliant on consistent touch-typing, there's zero chance I could buy this.
@ticler
@ticler 14 күн бұрын
Not only will I not buy it, I will actively ignore any opinion of a programmer if I see them using it.
@kennyjoseph4875
@kennyjoseph4875 13 күн бұрын
As a programmer who prefers Linux, I went with the Lenovo Z16 gen 2 and have zero regrets. It's literally half the price after coupons and discounts and a lot less stupid.
@neil_surya
@neil_surya 12 күн бұрын
@@kennyjoseph4875 I dunno if this is a hot take or not but all the Lenovo laptops I've used seem to have the best keyboards and they're a beauty to code on.
@CortyCze
@CortyCze 12 күн бұрын
As a programmer XPS line isn't for you. Latitude/Precision is more suitable
@kennyjoseph4875
@kennyjoseph4875 12 күн бұрын
@@CortyCze I might agree with you if they had sensible configurations. A big requirement for me is 64 GB of RAM. The only options are the Precision 5680/90 with 1980x1200 res (!) and RTX Ada GPUs (which I don't want or need) and start at over $4k.
@SqueamishKeemish
@SqueamishKeemish 14 күн бұрын
The amount of times he swore when he realized he didn’t hit the escape key should just tell anyone, especially programmers, to stay the hell away from this device. Especially with a $1,900 starting price holy crap…
@BlackMercy-it1jp
@BlackMercy-it1jp 14 күн бұрын
It looks like I'll be replacing my 2019 XPS 17 with a Zephyrus G16 this year. Seriously Dell needs to rehire those engineers who designed their 2019 - 2020 xps laptops
@cldpt
@cldpt 14 күн бұрын
I have an odd solution for you which you'll probably feel "wtf is this guy saying MSI?" but then realize it's actually pretty sensible: the Z16HX and Z17HX are actually very good stuff for prosummers who still want dedicated graphics. And yeah, MSI sucks on their gaming laptops but they have seriously nailed it with the Z/Creator series. Their only real problem is inverting the motherboard. Even not having OLED isn't a problem because the display is pretty good too. And everything is replace/upgradeable, from wifi to ram to ssd. And it does have 2x m.2 slots
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 14 күн бұрын
The new G16 is surprisingly light and portable for the screen size, not to mention much more powerful with the higher wattage, and it can run efficiently now with the new intel chips and Type C charging ports, oh and that reminds me of the much better port selection and higher refresh rate screen, absolutely no reason to get the XPS. If you care about the marginally better battery life go for the Macbooks, they beat everything in terms of battery anyways.
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 14 күн бұрын
@@cldpt I didn't even know the MSI existed, none of the big reviewers tried it
@RobloxianX
@RobloxianX 14 күн бұрын
I don't see what's wrong with getting a 2023 Dell XPS 17, it's 1000 USD off on Dell's website and it still comes with an i9-13900H, an RTX 4080, 64GB of RAM, 2 4TB SSD's, and a 4K touchscreen
@Cy12237
@Cy12237 14 күн бұрын
The new Zephyrus gave up some performance for form but they still retained enough performance to be a useable great laptop. No idea what Dell was doing with this
@jorismak
@jorismak 14 күн бұрын
OMG.. no function row and physical escape key was the reason to ditch macbooks for a long period. And when the 13plus came out everyone was like "why would you follow that" and they kept it ?!?
@MrKentoNion
@MrKentoNion 14 күн бұрын
This even worse than what apple had. Apple at least had some shiny pretty dumb useless bauble, dell's one not even looks interesting, just pure dumb
@falsemcnuggethope
@falsemcnuggethope 14 күн бұрын
It's also the reason to not get a chromebook for anything (even if you can run other OS on it)
@xpforevergaming8609
@xpforevergaming8609 14 күн бұрын
At least Apple kept the esc key physical.
@MrKentoNion
@MrKentoNion 14 күн бұрын
@@xpforevergaming8609 na, at first gen esc was inside the touch bar, then on second gen they separated esc out of it
@jorismak
@jorismak 14 күн бұрын
@@xpforevergaming8609 no they didnt''.. not on the macbook pro 13" models I used (2016, 2017). I had to kill the 'touchbar service' to disable the whole thing to keep it from doing weird things in terminals and editors if I accidentally touched it, and had to remap my capslock to be an escape key.
@stephan3694
@stephan3694 14 күн бұрын
I wish you guys included Alex's reaction when he heard the blown speakers for the first time after saying 10watts. I bet it was priceless😂
@lndnfsu2
@lndnfsu2 14 күн бұрын
hope there is on floatplane
@istafaniazi3533
@istafaniazi3533 14 күн бұрын
Ah yes an xps in this economy
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 14 күн бұрын
Or an XPS that costs more than a comparable Razer Blade 14 and is less upgradable and repairable? Seriously, Dell deserves to have these 2024 XPS laptops flop. Maybe they'll realize they made a true worst laptop ever?
@jani0077
@jani0077 14 күн бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 the high-end XPS's easily trumps Apple in unrepairability, and that's something.
@GHOSTSTARSCREAM
@GHOSTSTARSCREAM 14 күн бұрын
Wdum, are you telling me that you don't want the extra Xperiance Point Score?
@mikejames6588
@mikejames6588 14 күн бұрын
Poor
@bakaata
@bakaata 14 күн бұрын
talk for urself my bags heavy and I be getting xps' on the monthly
@doctahp123
@doctahp123 14 күн бұрын
So you're telling me, that you can get a (albeit slightly power limited) 2024 4090 Zephrys G16 with a 240hz oled panel, ultra 9 processor, and usable IO for give or take $100 dollars from this model? And before you say it isn't a gaming laptop, it is literally heavier than the G16. Dell, what in the actual hell are you thinking.
@pierreollivier1
@pierreollivier1 14 күн бұрын
As a programmer the no Esc key is a deal breaker, it's one of the key that I use the most and I won't go with a laptop that's made for professional that somehow didn't think it was necessary for professionals to have an Esc key. Ridiculous
@lejoshmont2093
@lejoshmont2093 13 күн бұрын
You haven't swapped esc and caps lock yet? Must not be a vim user. This laptop is not made for professionals go look at dells precision line for that they no longer copy the xps design for obvious reasons.
@pierreollivier1
@pierreollivier1 13 күн бұрын
@@lejoshmont2093 I remap caps lock to ctrl, and I use C- to move in insert mode. I don't use a lot of vim, but Helix instead but yeah, for anyone addicted to modal editing no esc key is criminal anyway.
@DominikJaniec
@DominikJaniec 11 күн бұрын
@@lejoshmont2093 I'm VI-ish user, and I have dash (-) at "standard" Caps Lock position... having `Esc` on the "home-row" feels strange ;) I hit escape to break current flow, and it should be easily located and identified, thus top-left corner is the best for `Esc` key.
@giantswing3175
@giantswing3175 9 күн бұрын
​@@DominikJaniec nah, caps lock for escape key is top tier
@Xiph1980
@Xiph1980 14 күн бұрын
Wait, what?? At the beginning you hinted at a far too expensive price, so ups and downs during the review, I figured at the end they'd be asking 1500-2000 for it. Which I thought would be grossly overpriced for that toy. I did not expect a 3k+ price! Man, what were they thinking?
@Luke-ko4qo
@Luke-ko4qo 14 күн бұрын
14:51 I thought he said 85 screws instead of 8 t5 screws and my jaw dropped😂
@BSGSV
@BSGSV 14 күн бұрын
Don't give Dell any ideas.
@froggymicb
@froggymicb 13 күн бұрын
I believed 85 after changing keyboards on their latitude 2 in 1s
@MrDivinePotato
@MrDivinePotato 13 күн бұрын
SAME
@giddycadet
@giddycadet 3 күн бұрын
i thought it was a joke and that's why he was enunciating it so strangely lol
@harsh5424-wastaken
@harsh5424-wastaken 14 күн бұрын
Okay, educate me here. It's a "touch bar"... where the buttons stay the same all the time? At least I can understand why Apple went with it for Mac books as they are actual screens that change depending on what the user is doing, but this does not look like it? Am I missing something or is this a colossally bad choice on Dell's part?
@Cyba_IT
@Cyba_IT 13 күн бұрын
colossally bad choice
@sungholee8791
@sungholee8791 13 күн бұрын
It’s so funny to me that we’ve all seen how Apple had to bring physical escape key back yet Dell still hasn’t gotten the message from that
@DominikJaniec
@DominikJaniec 11 күн бұрын
well, static touch multimedia buttons were "fancy" on laptops like 20/15 years ago...
@tiltedbybox6118
@tiltedbybox6118 14 күн бұрын
18:05 "makes a macbook pro seem reasonably priced" That's how I've seen XPS since forever, lol. Besides the design, there's literally nothing good about this lineup. Any gaming laptop will get the same job done, at half the price and better performance.
@kombatres
@kombatres 14 күн бұрын
Never thought I'd do this, but I was looking for a quality work laptop, and in the past I used to buy XPS... this time I bought a macbook pro because it was cheaper AND better ... what the hell is going on?
@rishi0299
@rishi0299 13 күн бұрын
I mean even the design is kinda aging with the minimalist and boring look. If it retained the carbon fibre inside, that would've given it some points for looks.
@General_M
@General_M 13 күн бұрын
@@kombatres Apple Silicon and Jony Ive pissing off is what’s going on.
@SaHaRaSquad
@SaHaRaSquad 13 күн бұрын
​@@rishi0299 I like the design but it has to be functional, and this sacrifices functionality for looks at every corner.
@lucianoag999
@lucianoag999 14 күн бұрын
I have worked with and researched carbon fiber for 15 years. I love it. I also love laptops but they do not belong together. Carbon fiber is a horrible heat conductor and you cannot exploit its specific stiffness in such small thicknesses.
@kaalihan1383
@kaalihan1383 13 күн бұрын
Yeah when Alex said that I was like „what?! No it isn’t!“ but the problem isn’t just the heat it’s also receiving and transmitting data. Carbon fiber is really good at intercepting that.
@devonward6784
@devonward6784 14 күн бұрын
I really hate that you have to pay more money for a worse screen than the xps 14 and to get the oled screen it’s like 2800. In 2024 you get 1080 screens at $2000+
@TheYearOfJerome
@TheYearOfJerome 13 күн бұрын
you mean the $650 MBA M1 has better screen? 🥶
@devonward6784
@devonward6784 13 күн бұрын
@@TheYearOfJerome I mean a lot of things have a better screen lol bar is kinda low
@olsirmonkey
@olsirmonkey 12 күн бұрын
@@devonward6784 yeah but for a lot of laptops these days it seems like you either get decent performance, a nice display, or an ergonomic/nice looking design, but never all three. in fact the only laptops i've considered buying recently under 2 grand are neither, just mid in all three.
@Yellowredstone
@Yellowredstone 14 күн бұрын
Framework 16" is expensive, but for a reason. This thing is more expensive than said Framework laptop, for no reason at all.
@lejoshmont2093
@lejoshmont2093 13 күн бұрын
compared to this it isn't expensive. It is likely it will be my next laptop at the rate dell is going. I just hope they eventually get NVIDIA gpu modules for those cuda cores.
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 Күн бұрын
@@lejoshmont2093 Heck, it HAS RAM slots. Dell literally made CAMM2, and then of course didn't use it here. What a P.O.S. I literally have been using the Framework Laptop 16 since mine came, and I love it.
@lejoshmont2093
@lejoshmont2093 16 сағат бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 I am glad to hear another good review.
@rgp1989
@rgp1989 14 күн бұрын
Can't believe they dropped the ball so hard, literally not one thing about this laptop appeals to me. I don't think it even looks that nice, its like a toy
@b127_1
@b127_1 14 күн бұрын
By the way: what's up with the proprietary 130w charger. Even Apple is using a normal usb pd 140w brick by now. I get that Dell engineered thier 130w proprietary brick when usb pd went up to 100w, but they went through the effort to redesign the entire laptop, why does it still have this old bs charging brick???
@Lonewolf_121
@Lonewolf_121 14 күн бұрын
Proprietary? It's usb c... Yeah they have a big ugky brick with their name on it but it's just usb c, you can use any usb adapter you want with the laptop, nothing special or locked down about it?
@b127_1
@b127_1 14 күн бұрын
@@Lonewolf_121 No. You cannot. If you want maximum performance, you need Dell's stupid 130w brick. Any other charger will work for charging, but the cpu and gpu be way slower. The same applies to docks by the way: unless it specifically supports the Dell 130w charger, it will not allow more than 100w. Even a 140w compatible dock will not work. The reason for this is fairly simple: usb pd 100w is 20v 5a. pd 140w is 28v at 5a. Dell engineered 130w as 20v and 6.5a, making sure that no dock, cable or brick made by anyone else will be able to power this laptop at full load.
@fVNzO
@fVNzO 14 күн бұрын
​@@b127_1 The fix is simple. Dell is very happy to sell you their own dock which you'll need if you plan on using the laptop for desktop like workloads. They're corporate first and consumer second. Have always been i feel.
@marcgtsr
@marcgtsr 14 күн бұрын
Simple fix, dont buy dell
@varno
@varno 9 күн бұрын
They have a preference for lower voltages at higher current in their chargers, the laptop will charge at 100W from a standard USB-C charger, but it doesn't support PD 3.1 yet, sadly. My current work dell has a 165W charger, but will only charge at 140W from a standard charger. the proprietary charger is at least OK though, and 100W charging is at least usable most of the time.
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 14 күн бұрын
Not first, not last, but Dell made three laptops this year that I wouldnt even take for free: The XPS lineup.
@tiltedbybox6118
@tiltedbybox6118 14 күн бұрын
I'd definitely take it for free and sell it, even at half the price, lol.
@dannynation8461
@dannynation8461 14 күн бұрын
Ya but what if someone gave it to u and said you can't sell it, your not allowed to.. then what? Lol
@tomimar2001
@tomimar2001 14 күн бұрын
@@dannynation8461 they are fantastic machines even with the stupid capacitive buttons, don't be dense
@mastroitek
@mastroitek 14 күн бұрын
@@tomimar2001 as an XPS 13 (2021) owner, I regret my purchase, I knew I was not getting the best hardware for the price, but I was not expecting driver issues, wake-up from sleep bugs, hard to open with one hand, and they even locked intel XTU so you can't even undervolt the cpu. On the bright side, build is great and feels amzing in your hands, screen looks really good and matte coating is of good quality, I love the keyboard and that carbon fibre feels nice and cosy on my hands/wrists, not that this fixes the other problems though... I should also note that since the bios update of 2 months ago my battery lasts 5-6h at best when before it was more like 6-7h
@CricketEngland
@CricketEngland 14 күн бұрын
I have the XPS 13 pro from 2018 and for what I do (I don’t game) it’s still as good in 2024 as it was out of the box when I got it
@nathantron
@nathantron 13 күн бұрын
I will never buy a laptop without dedicated FKey buttons. It's non-negotiable standing point for anyone actually doing work.
@tomshariat4167
@tomshariat4167 14 күн бұрын
I work at Best buy and I saw the new Dell XPS the day they came out on our displays, you should have seen me, I was devastated, One thing about the quality control, Best buy's displays models, one of them had a black screen the entire time and the other one had no force feedback on a trackpad, so they're messing something up
@SenselInc
@SenselInc 14 күн бұрын
Was the one with no force feedback a XPS 13, 14 or 16? Also, did you check to see if the haptics were on in the Windows touchpad settings?
@TheJamesJingYi
@TheJamesJingYi 14 күн бұрын
At work all the developers have had XPS 15s for years because they were ‘the best’, and they really were. Maybe value wise you could get better, but in terms of an overall package, they were worth the money. Two ‘test’ XPS 13 pluses were bought. One user literally has to have a mouse because they can’t get on with the touchpad at all. Both had audio issues for months until an update. Then Dell drops these new models, with the price increase, and now we’re switching completely to Lenovo. It’s cheaper to replace all the laptops and the Dell Thunderbolt docks if they don’t work, than just buying new XPSes. It’s just crazy. As the resident Mac user, I was in disbelief when I saw the touch buttons - Apple literally reversed course on the Touch Bar because people didn’t like non-physical buttons, and at least they ‘gave’ us back the physical escape key, and then the rest of them. It was crazy that my M3 Max MBP looked ‘good value’ compared to the new XPS line!
@SenselInc
@SenselInc 14 күн бұрын
FYI, Sensel (that's us) are one of the new haptic touchpad suppliers on the XPS 14 and 16. The supplier on the XPS 13 Plus was another company, and ours are much better and don't use piezos. That's why Dell added us in to the fold for their latest designs. So please don't let your bad experience on the 13 Plus sour your opinion of the 14 or 16. Give us a chance. =)
@lejoshmont2093
@lejoshmont2093 13 күн бұрын
If you don't need x64 architecture or an NVIDIA gpu I think you made a good decision with mpb and I'm not particularity an apple fan.
@petrhota529
@petrhota529 14 күн бұрын
No HDMI, no USB type A, no thank you...
@FlyboyHelosim
@FlyboyHelosim 14 күн бұрын
HDMI is hardly a necessity. USB-A, on the other hand...
@rafd97
@rafd97 14 күн бұрын
@@FlyboyHelosim depends where you live i'm sure
@brontiago
@brontiago 14 күн бұрын
There’s a thing called a dongle you can get for super cheap
@RealWorldReview
@RealWorldReview 14 күн бұрын
How old are your things you’re plugging in?
@morsermons9610
@morsermons9610 14 күн бұрын
@@FlyboyHelosim For me HDMI is a definite necessity as my laptop is hooked up to my TV for YT and gaming. I also connect an Xbox controller through USB A and I know I can connect to my TV using wireless or BT but the lag through HDMI is non existent unlike wireless or BT.
@tscharf34685
@tscharf34685 14 күн бұрын
Huge Dell XPS 13 fan (circa 2016). Had to take a hard pass on this model when buying a new laptop, ended up with HP Spectre 14 x360 2024. Willing to pay a premium for Dell but not for an unforced regression. Keyboard was a non-starter. Nope.
@pellejutterstrom
@pellejutterstrom 14 күн бұрын
also looking at Spectre right now, was going to get a new XPS but they can forget that now
@NissocoMC
@NissocoMC 11 күн бұрын
how is the spectre 14? I am seriously considering it but not sure how good HP is
@davidmasterson883
@davidmasterson883 14 күн бұрын
My last 4 laptops over the las 10 years have been xps 15 , xps 15 , xps 17 and currently new xps 17. My next laptop will not be an xps 16 or for that matter a dell. Very disappointed with where they have taken this icon!
@MorgFlame
@MorgFlame 14 күн бұрын
2 laptop reviews less than 24 hours is quite remarkable to see :)
@porterejohn
@porterejohn 14 күн бұрын
The delete key being in the touch bar is even worse than the escape key!
@hp6r
@hp6r 14 күн бұрын
Toshiba used to have a flush trackpad but they used a different texture and a light bar to guide you to it, it was really nice.
@Javadamutt
@Javadamutt 14 күн бұрын
Least the base model starts with 16gb Ram. 8Gb ram would have been egregious at this price point. Saying that, above £1,500 I would expect a 32GB option rather than having to add the RTX 4050 bringing it to £2299 then another for 32GB its £2449. Something that needs to be pointed out that due to the option of bringing your own Ram, nothing can touch Framework in terms of value
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 13 күн бұрын
I do not know any pro machines at 16-inch with 8GB base, so I am not sure why you bought this up? Apple, in fact, starts their 16-inch Pro models at 18GB
@nemis123
@nemis123 14 күн бұрын
Cause of the escape key,its completly unusable for me.
@BlakeHelms
@BlakeHelms 14 күн бұрын
As someone who owned a Touch Bar Mac, I will never own another laptop without physical function keys and a lack of a physical escape key was one of the most infuriating experiences. How did Dell make this mistake‽
@miguelangelt1445
@miguelangelt1445 14 күн бұрын
We are going to force Dell to change the design and be something like the XPS 16 but with physical function keys, USB A, HDMI, full SD card, 90W in the GPU and a lightweight 165W charger, it is simply an excellent purchase option , but for now only with a much lower price (2,500 max), it would be recommended
@watercannonscollaboration2281
@watercannonscollaboration2281 14 күн бұрын
The one benefit (that the old XPS desperately needed) is a haptic trackpad. The old design was aging fine, add a haptic trackpad and boom Now it feels like the G16 is the XPS Dell should’ve made. I mean, you’re limited to 130W (and I bet it’s still Dell’s old 20V proprietary USB C instead of USB PD3.1. This is less of a big deal for me, but still…) from the charger alone, and I hope this isn’t like the 9700 XPS17 where the battery drains on the highest spec model when plugged in
@ASMR-zh3qv
@ASMR-zh3qv 13 күн бұрын
Fast refresh rate also.
@bandyinkeplayz4404
@bandyinkeplayz4404 14 күн бұрын
You know its bad when the man who love the xps 15 more than his wife is disappointed with the xps 16 😂
@rocker10039
@rocker10039 13 күн бұрын
A legion with a pressure sensitive touchscreen and stylus support would be the dream laptop for me. Imagine the possibilities. Zbrush with a stylus😭
@Nicolai0901
@Nicolai0901 14 күн бұрын
i had the XPS13 Evo a while ago as an Testdevice from Dell at my Office, same look and I have to say I hate the Shiny Glass Thing. The Carbon Fiber did not only save a few pounds it also look nice, and you had keys that you can easily type on, not an "flush" keyboard where you do not feel where you currently are with your fingers.
@alfredoaraujo9294
@alfredoaraujo9294 14 күн бұрын
We want a LTT daily drivers video of phones and laptops!
@italianbasegard
@italianbasegard 14 күн бұрын
11:42 Ah yes finally, Dell made a laptop without the Escape key! 🤦‍♂️
@andyradford4574
@andyradford4574 14 күн бұрын
Can you only get laptops in 4k or 1080p? I can compromise to 1440p if it means a very good screen (good colour accuracy and HDR etc).
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 13 күн бұрын
I like that microSD cards are small but I also hate that they're small. I almost sent one flying across the room when I hit the eject button on a camera. I much rather have it in an adapter in a camera. Then was the other time when between walking from the front of the room to the back of the room to get the card I dropped it! And of course I needed to get the clip off because we had an issue with the stream so I was trying to re-upload it before the next session. And you also don't get the write protect switch!
@bio_stack
@bio_stack 14 күн бұрын
Yeah the function row is a cost-cutting/design decision that makes the laptop unusable for most professional work
@kaushikpranav7696
@kaushikpranav7696 3 күн бұрын
Cost cutting ? For a 3k lappy thats insane
@AventinIndustries
@AventinIndustries 14 күн бұрын
Oooh no ... My XPS 9570 is beginning to fall apart and I was waiting for the 16. Hopefully my beauty will do another year 😅
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 14 күн бұрын
Just move on to framework~
@b127_1
@b127_1 14 күн бұрын
Just get a 9500 through 9530 generation xps 15 and put a new battery in it. Easy to fix, upgradable ram + storage and a keyboard that makes sense. What more does one need.
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 14 күн бұрын
just switch to the 2024 Asus G16, better in every way (or a macbook if you don't game, those have gotten really good too)
@segiraldovi
@segiraldovi 14 күн бұрын
@@houssamalucad753 better if you pick an old M1, you can save a lot of money
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 14 күн бұрын
@@segiraldovi yeah the macbook pro 14 M1/M2 Pro is the best value laptop in the world right now, the Air M1 is amazing value too but the low non upgradable ram and storage it might be obsolete much sooner
@Rkcuddles
@Rkcuddles 12 күн бұрын
Wait what’s Dell premier color? Should I be using this to make my Alienware qd-OLED look better? It’s hard to work on
@CBZED101
@CBZED101 14 күн бұрын
My hugest complaint is the touchpad - I love the design and how it works when it’s new - but those piezo buzzers fail super quick - I returned my XPS 13 Plus in less than 30 days because it had already stopped reliably clicking - and would even glitch
@SenselInc
@SenselInc 14 күн бұрын
FYI, Sensel (that's us) are one of the new haptic touchpad suppliers on the XPS 14 and 16. The supplier on the XPS 13 Plus was another company, and ours are much better and don't use piezos. That's why Dell added us in to the fold for their latest designs. So please don't let your bad experience on the XPS 13 Plus sour your opinion of the 14 or 16. Give us a chance. =)
@rael_gc
@rael_gc 14 күн бұрын
My latest XPS 15, several years ago, I got because it has not soldered RAM. Now Dell is making its entire line (even Precision) with soldered RAM. And no, the small difference in RAM speed will not help performance.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 13 күн бұрын
Why do you need modular RAM? Data suggests that RAM will now last longer than all components. Repairability is optional in 2024 with RAM; the benefits of soldered RAM outweigh the negatives. You have to buy what you need at launch. And yes, there is a speed and latency benefit of having the fastest RAM
@lejoshmont2093
@lejoshmont2093 13 күн бұрын
@@andyH_England long term support. If it is soldered It should be illegal to sell anything other than the max amount for future e waste concerns. Then you have the criminal amounts they charge for ram upgrades. 1500 for 64gb is delusional.
@rael_gc
@rael_gc 13 күн бұрын
@@andyH_England Why? The obvious answer: later upgrades. In my previous XPS, after 3 years, I've upgrade RAM and storage. Now you have to pick the top configuration, which RAM prices that are tied to the manufacturer. With unsoldered RAM, you can pick RAM from anyone, years later (i.e., lower prices). The latency difference is unnoticeable.
@LabCat
@LabCat 14 күн бұрын
At this point, there is absolutely no reason to buy the XPS when the Precision and Latitude lines exist, unless you want an Alienware laptop that is crappier than an Alienware laptop.
@lejoshmont2093
@lejoshmont2093 13 күн бұрын
I wished the precision and latitude lines got more attention.
@miscme7116
@miscme7116 12 күн бұрын
Is it still even possible to use the SSD self encryption, or is the possibility to activate it disabled just like in the XPS 15 it was and never came? Had to use Veracrypt because of this on XPS 15.
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely no reason to get an XPS, unlike 5 years ago we have Apple fixing their design mistakes and using much more efficient chips, Asus slimming down their G14 and G16 and making them great looking and lighter, Lenovo starting to use top end components for their Yoga pro 9i 14" and 16", and even HP joined in with the Transcend 14.
@C-Handle
@C-Handle 14 күн бұрын
Dell has destroyed XPS.... But will Kendrick destroy Drake?
@Rankallthethings
@Rankallthethings 14 күн бұрын
Kendrick alienware'd Drake.
@uhohadam
@uhohadam 14 күн бұрын
The XPS 16 is a massive massive downgrade from the XPS 17, especially with the specs.
@doryiii
@doryiii 14 күн бұрын
I really really hated the touch control on the XPS 13 plus, to the point of returning it. I was forced to look down onto my keyboard all the time which was infuriating, especially when I have so many shortcuts configured using the F-keys.
@lexfilatenko6397
@lexfilatenko6397 14 күн бұрын
sad to see what has happened to the xps lineup. was shopping for a laptop recently, and didn't even considered xps because of that ridiculous touch bar.
@LWonderchild
@LWonderchild 11 күн бұрын
Crying about a 5lb laptop is crazy
@kimberly4275
@kimberly4275 5 сағат бұрын
Honestly
@mrhenry7775
@mrhenry7775 14 күн бұрын
Who in their right mind buys full size SD cards?! For I don't know 10 years it's been a good idea to buy micro SD with an adapter so you can use the same card in the camera in the laptop in the tablet on the drone in the go pro in the 3d printer even for crying out loud! And you don't need a dongle ever... I mean there is one universal form factor everyone seems to be moving to and you find it bad?! It's like complaining your SIM card should come in full size 😅 We do deserve the form factor mess we are in then...
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 13 күн бұрын
I assume there are nearly a billion full-size SD cards in the wild. So, e-waste if everyone has to convert to microSD. But I do get your point. We should have moved permanently to microSD by now, and it is the usual group that moans about no USBA that wants to keep a full-size SD card.
@TheSonoranSniper
@TheSonoranSniper 13 күн бұрын
you say that like there's no benefits to full size SD cards at all
@mrhenry7775
@mrhenry7775 13 күн бұрын
@@andyH_England fair point. But of that billion how many are 1-2-4-8-16gig basically ewaste anyway as in a modern camera or most other applications too small? My comment was also about him complaining he can't go from camera to pc. Which you can if you bought the smaller factor. As it's backwards compatible
@ktfjulien
@ktfjulien 13 күн бұрын
They dont make v90 microsd cards
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 13 күн бұрын
@@ktfjulien Delkin makes V90 microSD cards, but they are expensive. 64GB costs £100.
@siantschild2010
@siantschild2010 5 күн бұрын
Did anyone else notice in the shots of the motherboard that it looks like there's just a bunch of empty space in the case? It almost looks like while they increased the size of the case, they cut corners on the internals by basically re-using the motherboard of the XPS 15 and just making the vapour chamber fit. Because the previous XPS 15 had a second SSD slot that seems to have been removed in the re-design
@SterlingSanders
@SterlingSanders 10 күн бұрын
Gave up on the XPS in 2020 when my first 17” over heated and wouldn’t stop blue screening, and the next three replacements were al broken in different ways, screen, constant bsod, power issues. Grabbed a MBP never looked back. Run parallels and moved on with my life.
@albertjames8842
@albertjames8842 13 күн бұрын
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@larryhenry2070
@larryhenry2070 13 күн бұрын
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@albertjames8842
@albertjames8842 13 күн бұрын
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@freddiearthur2151 13 күн бұрын
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@harveyoscar2925 13 күн бұрын
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@ghazanferfazli7335
@ghazanferfazli7335 13 күн бұрын
Same, I met Kathy lien last year for the first time at a conference in Wilshire, after then my Life has changed for good.God bless Kathy lien
@LXIX_
@LXIX_ 14 күн бұрын
I bought 2 latitude 9440s earlier this year. Both were defective, Dell's tech completely destroyed one, and I waited 2 months to get my return back. I am done with Dell, don't trust any of their new products
@sanyammalhan
@sanyammalhan 2 күн бұрын
The quality control on the channel's videos is far superior than any form of quality control at Dell. Seriously, you guys had to reshoot the video thrice already.
@TheSolidSnakeOil
@TheSolidSnakeOil 14 күн бұрын
One of the first things I do when setting up a new computer is switch caps lock to escape. I never use and it's a waste of space.
@piyh3962
@piyh3962 14 күн бұрын
My XPS 13 from 2018 came from the factory with blown speakers too, so it's not a recent QC issue
@Tsaukpaetra
@Tsaukpaetra 13 күн бұрын
12:53 Mine came with blown out speakers too! I was floored when I figured that out! 😭 Very first time it booted and the "boop doop whoop" of the Windows OOBE and just sat with a WTF face for a full minute...
@SeanTobeler
@SeanTobeler 13 күн бұрын
All this Labs info on laptop color accuracy and benchmarks.. is there a site yet where we can see all laptops ever measured by Labs to see how they stack up? Bonus points if it's filterable by I/O, specs, and features.
@spiritedgareth
@spiritedgareth 11 күн бұрын
The XPS line was my favorite laptop series for a long time... I had one of the originals when they started including the carbon fiber palm rests and fell in love with it. But there's a reason why I requested a Thinkpad from my work. They've really lost it over the years... those final words of the review really stuck with me on exactly how I feel as a longtime fan of the XPS.
@Thedishesss
@Thedishesss 13 күн бұрын
Can someone please explain to me the situation with the digitizer in front of the pixels?? I noticed this in the Best Buy demo unit and I HATED it. WHY WHY WHY does dell not know how to integrate the digitizer into the actual pixels like all phones and tablets from Samsung have?? How could it possibly be so hard when it is so commonly done?? It makes me so frustrated TBH
@JDizon849
@JDizon849 12 күн бұрын
The company I work for actually started issuing these to employees recently and I second most of these points. For one, the lack of a physical escape button drives me mad. Two, I didn’t feel the same “dirty screen” feeling you got so I’m not sure what’s happening there. Lastly, if you buy this directly from Dell, they give you Windows 11 Pro, but if you buy it from Best Buy, they give you Windows 11 Home. Granted, it was about $400 cheaper at Best Buy when we bought our last batch so it canceled out the price of buying Pro licenses, but if Pro matters to you, you may want to consider buying directly from Dell.
@yrneh7168
@yrneh7168 14 күн бұрын
Ironically watching this on my "new" XPS 13 from 2019. Got it for well under 400 USD as a refurbished ex-corporate machine with a 4K touchscreen, 16gb RAM, and a solid 8th Gen Core i5. I'm loving it, and I finally get why Alex loves it so much. The 2024 16" goes against a lot of what past XPSs (XPI?) were, both design-wise and underneath. As a wise man once said, glass is glass, and glass breaks. (A lot more than Carbon Fibre)
@AmitApolloBarman
@AmitApolloBarman 12 күн бұрын
My 2008 Dell XPS was so damn sleek. That hinge was wild. Turned it into a Hackbook.
@Staas1
@Staas1 13 күн бұрын
Precision 5590/5690 is the better way to go than the new "XPS"
@konrad3
@konrad3 14 күн бұрын
Irreplaceable Ram is a deal breaker with this Laptop price range!
@McTwistedTwisties
@McTwistedTwisties 14 күн бұрын
Looks like I'll be switching from the XPS to the Precision 5690 for the function keys.
@amevethebeaver
@amevethebeaver 2 күн бұрын
60W GPU is a massive dealbreaker. That's so much performance being left on the table
@peteremidy7221
@peteremidy7221 10 күн бұрын
I had been looking for a replacement laptop for my old XPS 9560 starting towards the end of last year. Decided to wait until Dell refreshed the XPS lineup to see if those would be what I want. Was really disappointed with the choices Dell made with the new XPS series both with removing upgradability (no second NVMe slot like last year's, and soldered RAM) and how ridiculously expensive they are for their performance. I ended up getting the 2024 Zephyrus G16 with a 4080 and really been enjoying that laptop
@MaskedMammal
@MaskedMammal 14 күн бұрын
"Dude, you're gettin a Dell" is becoming a statement of shock and concern these days.
@Souchirouu
@Souchirouu 13 күн бұрын
Ctrl + Shift + Escape = Taks manager.
@Senthiuz
@Senthiuz 13 күн бұрын
As someone who uses legacy systems for work, I would give up having a trackpad before giving up my function keys.
@azadrahim8486
@azadrahim8486 9 күн бұрын
It was either an XPS or a Macbook for me. The capacitive escape button, the glass touchpad, the PRICE... these all pushed me towards the Macbook. Yes, there will be a lot of growing pains moving to MacOS as I've been a Windows user since the 90s. However, the battery life and build quality of the Macbook is just too good to ignore and the XPS has priced itself out.
@EthanLeitch
@EthanLeitch 13 күн бұрын
I know I'm in the minority - but I couldn't care less about my laptop having no USB A or HDMI. But only 3 USB C ports for this price? Terrible. Ideally I'd like 6, but at least 4 should be minimum. The lack of a physical function row and ESC key is inexcusable though. Complete deal-breaker.
@erylaria398
@erylaria398 13 күн бұрын
You don't miss the USBA until it's time to troubleshoot. Yes, USBA dongles exist but maybe they work outside the OS and maybe they don't. It's a gamble. And when they don't, then you're screwed if you need a manual BIOS update (yeah BIOS connect exists now but I've seen it work 1 out of 5 times) or if you need to do a clean OS install. Maybe you can take the SSD out and install Windows via an adapter but maybe the SSD is soldered down (: because that's something we do now (: As long as the thing is running, yeah, you may not need that I/O. But if anything goes wrong, tech support (and you) are going to cry.
@jimbo-dev
@jimbo-dev 14 күн бұрын
Performance section skipped the cpu?
@kutiz7273
@kutiz7273 12 күн бұрын
Wasn't every new sd card has a full size adapter? And like buying it isn't that hard either if you don't have one.
@shirakhan5112
@shirakhan5112 14 күн бұрын
They should urgently release an update to be capable of switching the esc button with the right corner physical switch
@justincroserold
@justincroserold 13 күн бұрын
I'd like to see you guys review system76 laptops but I suppose it's a conflict of interest with framework
@flubba86
@flubba86 14 күн бұрын
You should review the new Precision 5480. I know you did the one a few years ago, but the new one is really great, it truly is the "missing 14-inch XPS", my boss bought me one for work.
@amateurwizard
@amateurwizard 12 күн бұрын
I don't like it either, at least for the price. You like to see eWaste Dongles rather that buying your own dongle that has a complete complement of ports? How about better (more consistently high bandwidth) ports? The carbonfiber was the cause of many RMA. Many of which I saw first hand. Decomposing composite because someone didn't just use soap and water. Even the sanitiser from your hand can cause endless peeling. Saw one where the chassis had literally splintered. I have so many gripes with this device & review... but whatever.
@joeyf504327
@joeyf504327 14 күн бұрын
the one pro of Dell and HP is their driver support. They both have good drivers that work and they both have programs that can easily update your drivers. I had an Asus g16 and the Asus software and drivers were so flaky that when the machine died within a month of owning it I was kind of relieved to replace it with a Dell gaming laptop. The Alienware software on dell gaming PCs is much more robust than the Asus software.
@sethmensah4486
@sethmensah4486 12 күн бұрын
You killed it in a month?
@joeyf504327
@joeyf504327 12 күн бұрын
@@sethmensah4486 you mean it turned off mid youtuve video never to turn on again, yes. I didn't kill it. You sound the idiots at geek squad who had to return it saying it wasnt meant for gaming when they asked if I played any games on it.
@sethmensah4486
@sethmensah4486 10 күн бұрын
@@joeyf504327 "the machine died within a month of owning it" you said it yourself bruh. A bit immature to insult somebody for that. Just wanted to know if It actually died cos it's definitely unusual. Buh I guess, what do you expect when you buy a toddler a pc.
@joeyf504327
@joeyf504327 10 күн бұрын
@@sethmensah4486 you've obviously never heard of manufacturing defects before or warranty claims
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 13 күн бұрын
Can't remember it might've been an HP (15-20 years ago I think it was one of the first systems to use touch buttons) I failed a pre-test because I wiped away some dust and bumped the Wi-Fi button which crashed the software which was running over the network. I like my Touch Bar but nondescript touch buttons yeah bad idea.
@thechrissmartin
@thechrissmartin 13 күн бұрын
TBH, I have used XPS 15 for years, the carbon fibre body is a pain. It becomes oily and if it's closed for sometime it get's all weird with bacteria growth / fungus. I used to clean the body with isopropyl alcohol quite often aswell. I am happy with the material updates actually.
@munem939
@munem939 14 күн бұрын
I'm not savvy in photography at all, but I'm curious. Why not just use a micro SD card with a full-sized adapter for when shooting footage?
@djp_video
@djp_video 14 күн бұрын
They're more expensive and slower
@NiSE_Rafter
@NiSE_Rafter 14 күн бұрын
​@@djp_videoExplain? Price and speed are both pretty comparable these days. 128gb SanDisk Ultra SDXS fullsize and micro are both advertised with 140MB/s and are both $14.99 on Amazon. The only difference now is the form factor. MicroSD can be annoying to handle due to the size if you're onloading/offloading data frequently.
@aussiegruber86
@aussiegruber86 14 күн бұрын
I went with the latitude 9000 series over the xps, everyone I know with one has had some many issues with the touch buttons across the top
@alec1575
@alec1575 10 күн бұрын
I honestly don't get the complaints abt laptop weight. 5lbs is nothing, it that hurts your back maybe try, idk, standing up every once in a while.
@le_potate3861
@le_potate3861 14 күн бұрын
Hi guys. I would love to see a review on the MSI Creator Pro 16 AI Studio. Its the most expensive "mainstream" laptop you can buy at over $5k. And as far as I can tell, one of the very few laptops to offer an A5000. My wife, a mechanical engineer, just ordered the A5000 variant for modeling and simulation on the go. Cheers.
@varno
@varno 9 күн бұрын
The Precision version of this laptop is much more expensive, but has all the issues mentioned about ports and such more resolved. still no USB-A or ethernet but HDMI, and a full-sized SD card slot and a better keyboard. I have one for work the precision 5690. The price though.....
@melchizedekpsj
@melchizedekpsj 4 күн бұрын
The loss of the physical function buttons is a deal breaker for me. Will never be in consideration.
@Alexandru1996_
@Alexandru1996_ 13 күн бұрын
I wonder how would a 60w rtx 4070 mobile compare with a 4060 mobile with full power available, 115w. My asus zephyrus g16 from 2023 is having the whole 115w plus 25w boost available for the gpu which i believe might give better results than a bottlenecked 4070?
@abones900
@abones900 14 күн бұрын
This is why I was relieved that I received my email from Framework the other day saying that my Framebook 16 is scheduled for manufacturing this month.
@EdTheNerd
@EdTheNerd 13 күн бұрын
That keyboard and touchbar immediately disqualifies that laptop for me
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