[SHOT Show 2019] B&T APC-9 PRO (It Takes Glock Mags!)

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In this episode of TFBTV, James Reeves visits with B&T to talk about the NEW B&T APC-9 Pro. It offers a new lower, with an M4 style grip which is interchangeable with other AR15 grips. The new lower also has a bolt hold open. The upper on the APC PRO has a non-reciprocating, dual-side charging handle, that also folds back automatically. The APC PRO also accepts the new Glock lower (APC9-G) and it WILL take Glock mags!
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@johnboy3089
@johnboy3089 5 жыл бұрын
I hope Magpul makes original APC mags. They look better than glock mags and looking good is the most important thing.
@miketyson8183
@miketyson8183 5 жыл бұрын
JohnBoy good looks is better than reliability?
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
@@miketyson8183 B&T mags are very realiable, expensive but high quality more than most of the glock mags
@finck2208
@finck2208 5 жыл бұрын
MIKE TYSON would you rather live in cargo pants or die in beautiful short shorts. Of course looking good is more important
@sghost128
@sghost128 5 жыл бұрын
Taking a page out of garand thumbs book I see.
@dionpaschini5262
@dionpaschini5262 5 жыл бұрын
No Ma'am I think he ment it to 🤔🤔🤔
@tarnapolsky4593
@tarnapolsky4593 5 жыл бұрын
You already know he ain't talking about the 650$ msrp on that collapsible stock
@farmerbrown84
@farmerbrown84 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that collapsing stock is fearsomely pricy.
@falloutboy33
@falloutboy33 5 жыл бұрын
$650? Last I checked its msrping at 699. I got lucky and bought one with the stock and brace option for 450.
@tarnapolsky4593
@tarnapolsky4593 5 жыл бұрын
@@falloutboy33 I saw at hkparts for 650 I like the look on an apc 223 or 300 but adding almost 7 bills to an already 3k $ rifle is difficult to justify with so many quality options for far less but if that's your thing your gonna buy it no matter what and I can dig that
@falloutboy33
@falloutboy33 5 жыл бұрын
@@tarnapolsky4593 yes it's cheaper online but you stated MSRP. I initially had no plan for buying a collapsible brace/stock for the apc but a discount of 200 I couldnt pass up.
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 4 жыл бұрын
@@tarnapolsky4593 If you're going to SBR it might as well go for the folding stock that's lighter, more comfortable, and offers a cheek weld. I'd only go telescopic adapter if you were going to add a tailhook and keep it a pistol.
@colejoea
@colejoea 4 жыл бұрын
Every time James talks about how long he’s known John, John gives that nervous look as if James is about to reveal his darkest college secrets.
@gopnikmcblyatov8573
@gopnikmcblyatov8573 5 жыл бұрын
This looks like a MP7 meets the UMP, meets the Vector. It looks extremely weird, but I like it!
@GrottyWanker69
@GrottyWanker69 5 жыл бұрын
B&T's APC and GHM series are essentially everything the UMP should have been.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 5 жыл бұрын
When's the 10mm coming out?
@zedhiro6131
@zedhiro6131 5 жыл бұрын
Alaskan Ballistics Go get a hi-point carbine. Seriously the bullpup conversation for the hi-point carbine looks pretty good.
@christopherdean9684
@christopherdean9684 5 жыл бұрын
Lets not lie to ourselves. We all know its not or ever will be coming out in 10mm, even though it should.
@CNT12696
@CNT12696 5 жыл бұрын
B&T isn't going to make it in 10mm. They're driven by their MIL/LE customers and nobody is using that cartridge
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 5 жыл бұрын
@@zedhiro6131 doesn't take glock mags
@yawenclaudio5756
@yawenclaudio5756 5 жыл бұрын
Will the 45 ACP ones take block mags too?
@zedhiro6131
@zedhiro6131 5 жыл бұрын
Magpul Glock mags $25-30, B&T mags $60-65, smart marketing, excellent engineering, fantastic competitor. Problem scorpion is 5/8 the price, and now magpul makes innate 35 round mags at around $20. I can’t see B&T overtaking CZ any time soon, but this is a massive step to compete with CZ. Both are putting HK in the dirt.
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
B&T is the new H&K, same quality but little cheaper and more attention to the civilian's market
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto 5 жыл бұрын
The comparable model is GHM9. The "marketing" was done because of Mil/LE. They use predominantly Glock mags
@guccitacticool6316
@guccitacticool6316 5 жыл бұрын
Cz is junk. The safety on the scorpion is a joke. Not user friendly
@zedhiro6131
@zedhiro6131 5 жыл бұрын
Gucci Tacticool kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pr2Ul5mQv968aJc.html
@mattygunn3852
@mattygunn3852 5 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for with the B&T. While more expensive, it is unquestionably a superior weapon to the Scorpion.
@bigro4444
@bigro4444 5 жыл бұрын
Selling my body to get one of these.
@Genesis23OPB
@Genesis23OPB 5 жыл бұрын
its awesome that you covered it, i was hoping you would, but it looks quite ugly with glock mags. pretty much everything that takes glock mags looks horrible if i think about it.
@Genesis23OPB
@Genesis23OPB 5 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Villa actually she likes my folding stock apc-9 quite a lot, much more than the ghm-9 of a friend. she also agrees that the glock lower on the apc looks ugly as fuck. well not exactly her words but close enough.
@88hammar
@88hammar 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they provide the same feature for the apc 45?
@Anarki23x
@Anarki23x 5 жыл бұрын
That UMP looking one is cool. I want it in a heavier caliber though, maybe 10mm.
@iwi2ench745
@iwi2ench745 4 жыл бұрын
okay this gun is pretty sweet
@christianallison297
@christianallison297 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know if they are making a sd version of the apc 9 pro?
@jaredandrews379
@jaredandrews379 5 жыл бұрын
YES!
@454pakr
@454pakr 5 жыл бұрын
When you MUST have the VERY BEST, you must have a healthy bank account. "It ain't expensive...it's my B&T!" lol!
@project86xero
@project86xero 5 жыл бұрын
Now I'm rethinking buying a scorpion. Just for glock mags. All easy to find scorpion mags are all plastic. The mpx has steel feed lip mags. But they are crazy expensive. A pdw brace version of this that takes glock mags would be ideal.
@sirdovermeyer
@sirdovermeyer 5 жыл бұрын
I'll add that to my want but can't afford list haha
@PlhPatrick
@PlhPatrick 5 жыл бұрын
I have both B&T APC models and the scorpion, mp5, Banshee, mpx, ak9, the B&T is made so well, and the hydraulic recoil system make it the most accurate, reliable, bomb proof, sub gun ever made. It so good our agency went and got both the APC45/9s and the TP9s. The other sub guns are fun as a plinker, or collectors piece. While I like letting noobs and women shoot my other sub guns, Or taking them to the range I do not defend my life with them, the B&T weapons sit by the bed, in the car, and on duty for protection and security. Comparing B&T products to Other offerings is like comparing a Rolex to a Timex or a Ferrari to a Fiero. The more comparably priced guns are great for older platforms, but other than the MCX or honey badger type set ups in 300 blackout/ 5.56, they have been replaced by The B&T stuff or with intermediate rifle cartridges.
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, absolutely, I thought it was overpriced hype until I fired one; ended up buying the APC45 the next week, and a TP9 a month later. I was especially shocked with the accuracy of the TP9.
@oleredwhiteandblue3613
@oleredwhiteandblue3613 5 жыл бұрын
Is it compatible with the grass hopper mouse 9
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 5 жыл бұрын
Cool
@EvendimataE
@EvendimataE 5 жыл бұрын
the ccurved forward scorpion mag will make those guns more beautiful and magpul will make them in the $20ish range ....it doesnt always have to be glock LOL
@TheChadMan2345
@TheChadMan2345 2 жыл бұрын
They made the R99 a real thing. That’s crazy!
@unapologetic7900
@unapologetic7900 5 жыл бұрын
So how do I go about getting in touch with these guys? Would be nice if you put links in the description. I'v search for B&T APC9 and B&T, all i get is a site in Switzerland.... Is there a US distributor?
@chrissewell1608
@chrissewell1608 5 жыл бұрын
Those are sweeeet! Just out of my budget $$$$ 😣
@nmtay
@nmtay 5 жыл бұрын
Was looking to buy an MPX but I might just bite the bullet and pay the extra $500-$1000. Having a PCC that doesn't have a buffer tube and takes Glock magazines is a winning combination.
@masonsheppard1236
@masonsheppard1236 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this has a buffer tube
@lkjh00on89
@lkjh00on89 5 жыл бұрын
But does it take Sig P320 mags?
@Darryl_Francis
@Darryl_Francis 5 жыл бұрын
So from the perspective of functional applications, what sets this apart from the GMH?
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 4 жыл бұрын
Bolt length, length of pull, overall length, superior recoil buffer, and it just generally handles better.
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 5 жыл бұрын
Glock mags for the win 👍
@mueffe1357
@mueffe1357 5 жыл бұрын
This thing is like a modernised Baretta M12
@paytonwoodruff3621
@paytonwoodruff3621 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this drives the prices of gen 1’s down!
@lalala.thomson
@lalala.thomson 5 жыл бұрын
looks like a mix of the kriss vector and a mp7
@domm.277
@domm.277 5 жыл бұрын
So did he say they will sell a Pro version with the glock lower and bolt machine for glock mags? Or will that be a extra accessory I have to buy after? I understood if you have the previous version buy a glock lower and machine the bolt so you can use glock mags. Any eta on the glock version, I heard April and Summer time. Trying to buy it before washington law goes into effect charging a tax on "assault weapon" plus mandatory training before possessing the gun. Takes effect in july.
@vic8717
@vic8717 5 жыл бұрын
*Brazil Here!*
@vic8717
@vic8717 5 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Villa kkkk E aii!
@ternusguitar8012
@ternusguitar8012 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Styer TMP if it were a submachine gun instead of a machine pistol.
@christianallison297
@christianallison297 5 жыл бұрын
Lethal Hipster well b&t also makes the tp9 which is the tmp. They bought the licenss in the 2000’s and have made some improvements
@pantsandfriends8786
@pantsandfriends8786 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this gun being in call of duty modern warfare 2019 called the ISO Smg and me being like the hell kinda gun is that. Then I watch a video by a KZfaqr named Omicron Weaponry. The name of the video was modern warfare dlc guns real names and manufacturers.
@johnnyk617
@johnnyk617 5 жыл бұрын
10mm would be great
@CoMoEnTrAsAlE
@CoMoEnTrAsAlE 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me? or is everything at shot show this year over 2 grand...
@SwissPatriot88
@SwissPatriot88 5 жыл бұрын
Damn I hate those swiss prices and I‘m swiss 😂
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 4 жыл бұрын
Do you own a Swiss watch? lol. $2300 would buy you like half a Tudor Black Bay GMT........which is a Rolex for poors.
@tomrivera349
@tomrivera349 5 жыл бұрын
500 for a plastic lower! The lower on my apc45 is the only part that I feel is crap.
@naterawshow
@naterawshow 3 жыл бұрын
"super funny story... i have known this guy for like 20 years..." super funny story bro. lol.
@coke8077
@coke8077 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like an MPX but based off a UMP
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 5 жыл бұрын
If it's comparable to the price of the GHM9, sure. But only the gods among us will afford this gun.
@gillmccuddy
@gillmccuddy 5 жыл бұрын
I would be impressed if they made a 10mm this show .
@alanfender123
@alanfender123 5 жыл бұрын
The UMP that Gotham deserves.
@bev8200
@bev8200 5 жыл бұрын
Cz scorpion
@DOA220
@DOA220 5 жыл бұрын
Yay... ANOTHER pistol caliber carbine at shot show... It's like when getting tube socks at birthday party when you have no feet.
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
This is an improved version of a smg already on the market and created and used by military/LE, it's not a pcc created for the civilian market (but it's still sold to civillians, learn something H&K...)
@bev8200
@bev8200 4 жыл бұрын
I want one b4 VA bans everything but I want the Glock version. It's nowhere to be found.
@556poor7
@556poor7 5 жыл бұрын
Any chance of the GHM9 getting the Glock treatment? I'm poor and can't afford an APC9.
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto 5 жыл бұрын
Same lower. So yes
@jhalscott
@jhalscott 5 жыл бұрын
Well, now it makes a lot of sense. I smell my wallet burning.
@doejohn8674
@doejohn8674 5 жыл бұрын
I want an APC in 7.62x39 !
@ETHRON1
@ETHRON1 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet....but ouch.
@ckkevin9620
@ckkevin9620 5 жыл бұрын
You lost me at $2,300 and I own an MPX and a CMMG Banshee, not exactly cheap 9mm pistol caliber options. I'm sure it's awesome but just a little too rich for me.
@golferchin76
@golferchin76 4 жыл бұрын
it's an full auto shit for the 'military', and military is rich.
@usonumabeach300
@usonumabeach300 5 жыл бұрын
Give me one of these that can chamber .460 Rowland and I'll be the happiest guy on earth
@daisymontague9515
@daisymontague9515 5 жыл бұрын
Confirmed: APC9 Pro will ship with B&T Lower receiver that will accept B&T mags. Glock lowers will be sold separately.
@nckogle1
@nckogle1 5 жыл бұрын
When will B&T make their wonderful SMG’s in 10mm!?!? 😭😭😭
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
Until none adopt the caliber on the military/LE they have no interest in making that caliber for the moment
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
I have the tp9, my father the p26 and he almost bought an apc9, after you go B&T you never go back
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
@762x35mm they guy sold it to an other before my father blocked it, for 2400€ it was an affair
@Breezey_Dubz
@Breezey_Dubz 4 жыл бұрын
with the 2 as comparison, the glock mag and collapsable stock setup just looks soo much better
@Neeso97
@Neeso97 5 жыл бұрын
James doesn’t seem so enthused about “$2300”
@Dja05
@Dja05 5 жыл бұрын
B&T doing what it does best :v...
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto 5 жыл бұрын
He already owns 2 of them, he's just waiting on the Glock lowers
@thelefthandedshooter5760
@thelefthandedshooter5760 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll be “that guy”. My Grand Power Stribog cost 1/4 the price with a brace. The mags are $25-30 each. I would put the Stribog up against B&T for quality. The fitment is tight, the machining is excellent and replacement parts are readily available. It doesn’t take Glock mags but who cares.
@alexanderm8880
@alexanderm8880 5 жыл бұрын
Really hoping they start making the Ap9a3s! The operating system sounds awesome.
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 5 жыл бұрын
'whines in poor'................you just compared a Greubel Forsey to a Seiko
@Themichaelwesten
@Themichaelwesten 5 жыл бұрын
I NEED this in my life.... I was sold on an MP5 Clone until I found out about the APC a couple years back.... now I KNOW this is what I’m going for... shot it suppressed and on F/A and this thing is so smooth man!! Can’t wait to get a hold of mine..... Cool video LT. DANGLE....
@PlhPatrick
@PlhPatrick 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Westen you are correct, I had my HK mp5 and USP along with other sub guns banshee, mpx, ar9,ak9 and the B&T products especially the APC and TP9 models out shoot, are more reliable, are tougher, better made, and more fun to shoot.
@NonyaDamnbusiness
@NonyaDamnbusiness 5 жыл бұрын
Shot Show 2020: EVERYTHING TAKES GLOCK MAGS!
@DocsInTheDesert
@DocsInTheDesert 5 жыл бұрын
Shot Show 2020: Glock introduces new magazine design
@VenomAloisius
@VenomAloisius 5 жыл бұрын
Those glock-compatible lowers have been available in Switzerland for like 6 month wtf is that delay due to us import laws ? Also wtf they sell for ~2'500 dollars here
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto 5 жыл бұрын
I'm such a fan. Waiting on that tax return but can't decide if I should get an APC9 or APC9SD. Which one?
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto 5 жыл бұрын
I used my return for a APC9SD, waiting on delivery (and I'm sure the Silencerco will have me waiting longer along with SBR tax stamp).
@derekbrogan4241
@derekbrogan4241 5 жыл бұрын
Why not just make the magwell swapable?
@scottgti20t
@scottgti20t 5 жыл бұрын
Because that makes sense for commercial sale but as he stated this is designed for military/law enforcement. They want a particular mag. They want it built ground up for that mag, reliable and sturdy. A swappable magwell would be convenient for us but likely make a weak failure point military and leo wouldn't like.
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
they should chenge the feeding system, as he said they have to machine the bolt of the older ones
@chriskelly509
@chriskelly509 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm.. MSRP $2300....pass
@d-unit-outdoors
@d-unit-outdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Look like a Stribog with Glock Mags.
@xDieselv
@xDieselv 5 жыл бұрын
Noice
@cahsahhhhhhhn
@cahsahhhhhhhn 5 жыл бұрын
Titanfall gun
@mbh8621
@mbh8621 5 жыл бұрын
Want
@yungblac8336
@yungblac8336 5 жыл бұрын
I think I Know the question we are waiting to ask....does it take Glock mags ?🤔
@aidengonzalez615
@aidengonzalez615 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why you’d use a PCC over something like an SBR or AR/AK pistol? Rifle caliber firearms are better in literally every way; power, range, price, etc.
@siestatime4638
@siestatime4638 5 жыл бұрын
Short answer: better terminal ballistics (depending on how you define "carbine"). The effectiveness of 5.56 is dependent on it's velocity; when you drop down below, maybe, a 10" (25cm) barrel, you've just slowed down too much for a 55 grain bullet to consistently do it's tumbling thing. On the other hand, a 9mm or .40 is still picking up velocity at those barrel lengths, and expanding better and better (up to about 15" or 16"). With a carbine length (14+") barrel, go with the rifle caliber; with a pistol length barrel, go with the pistol caliber. Or, for us non-professionals, go with whichever you think is cooler, because both are equally effective against paper..
@ithepatrick
@ithepatrick 5 жыл бұрын
Ghm9 with glockazines?
@LetsGoGetUm
@LetsGoGetUm 5 жыл бұрын
lmao - takes glock mags........AFTER you change out the original gun for a different lower.................k..........
@muhammadhamid6373
@muhammadhamid6373 5 жыл бұрын
B&T MADE IN SWITZERLAND BEST ARMS COMPANY LOVE FROM PAKISTAN
@Manhattan_project.420
@Manhattan_project.420 5 жыл бұрын
no they are not selling to terrorists...sorry man
@msawyer110
@msawyer110 4 жыл бұрын
@@Manhattan_project.420 just because someone is from Pakistan does not make them a terrorist.
@YellowDogWithCone
@YellowDogWithCone 3 жыл бұрын
lmao they made the ISO into a real thing 😂
@v12ts.gaming
@v12ts.gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Nice joke 🤌
@cabeiri6653
@cabeiri6653 5 жыл бұрын
give VP9
@ruination126
@ruination126 5 жыл бұрын
2k+ for a pistol caliber carbine, gonna pass. cool gun, but not 2 grand cool.
@RichardNixion357
@RichardNixion357 5 жыл бұрын
It's cool.No arguments there. But what does this do that a PCC AR cant do? For half the price? With the same ergonomics and controls everybody who runs an AR is used to. You can use AR trigger groups. Swap uppers for caliber conversion 9mm, .45 , .40. Serious Question. I'm definitely not That Guy.
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
Simply: this is not a pcc, this is a military semi-auto smg
@RichardNixion357
@RichardNixion357 5 жыл бұрын
@@maledetto1221 Its silly.Repeal the Huges Admendment and it would be Perfect.
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
@@RichardNixion357 This won't effect the quality of most of the products, this model with the same feature(except for the full auto) is used and passed tests for the adoption in militaries and LE in different countries, 90% of the pcc or pseudo-militar smg on the market won't pass half of them
@arthurgalaxy701
@arthurgalaxy701 5 жыл бұрын
I wish guns like this or ar9 use different mags like of mp5 or mpx. Glock mags just looks not appealing to me. I think curved mags looks better than straight on long guns.
@jamess662
@jamess662 5 жыл бұрын
You can get ar9 lowers to take mp5 mags, new frontier armory I believe. Commonality between platforms and reliability is the reason for the Glock mags. A lot of folks already own glocks with a pile of mags.
@weaponstester8976
@weaponstester8976 5 жыл бұрын
Vector takes glock mags
@weaponstester8976
@weaponstester8976 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamess662 u right I just got to get it in 40 sw
@arthurgalaxy701
@arthurgalaxy701 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamess662 tnx
@FrenchyAU
@FrenchyAU 5 жыл бұрын
This looks exactly like the kinda gun something like the secret service or maybe some high level political bodyguards would be using, just gives off that vibe to me
@maledetto1221
@maledetto1221 5 жыл бұрын
Because it is, a lot of models created by B&T are used by militaries and law enforcers
@JaredJKOB
@JaredJKOB 5 жыл бұрын
Wait- James is old?
@gl7431
@gl7431 4 жыл бұрын
$2,500.00
@darrinray550
@darrinray550 5 жыл бұрын
$2300 + $600 for the collapsible stock in 9mm? No. Just, no.
@Manhattan_project.420
@Manhattan_project.420 5 жыл бұрын
maybe work harder
@mattygunn3852
@mattygunn3852 5 жыл бұрын
This isn't your typical 9mm carbine. Worth every penny!
@beck4218
@beck4218 5 жыл бұрын
So what? Vector is $1400
@Ws_minion
@Ws_minion 5 жыл бұрын
That price for a blowback system seems a little ridiculous to me
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 5 жыл бұрын
It has an internail recoil buffer assembly, so recoil is comparable to or maybe less than a gas gun, which is also why the telescopic adapter is so damn expensive because it houses the buffer assembly.
@Ws_minion
@Ws_minion 5 жыл бұрын
@@elliottatwell1155 look at it this way, you can have a blowback system (+weight-cost) with a recoil buffer system to compensate for the extra recoil (+weight +cost) OR you could just not use a blowback system and have a rifle that's lighter and either the same price or (more likely) cheaper...
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ws_minion blowback systems have an advantage in reliability, durability and practicality especially for a suppressed platform the one and only drawback is the harsher recoil which the hydraulic buffer completely eliminates and then some - gun shoots 100% flat even with no muzzle device. There are some cool gas guns out there but I don't want to get a fart in the nose and mouth every time I pull the trigger, and the action is so much smoother than even the best H&K made roller locks.
@Ws_minion
@Ws_minion 5 жыл бұрын
@@elliottatwell1155 define smoother than a HK roller system because every source I've seen says that the MP5 suppresses better and recoils less due to a lighter bolt and the rollers allowing all the crap to go out the front before the bolt comes back and let's it back into the action/your face.
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ws_minion just the tactile feel of cycling the action; recoil wise the MP5 is awesome and suppresses well because of lock time, I'm a huge MP5 fan and plan on getting a pre 86 on a form 4 sometime in the future when budget allows but might have to pick up a Zenith or Dakota Tactical sooner. But the B&T bolt is just built like a brick shit house and the muzzle flip is literally non existent, may not be worth the extra cash in 9mm but it certainly is for 45 ACP. The lack of bolt lockback and the MP5 trigger are also factors. I have a Geissele in my APC and it's just pure sex. Can't wait til I get my TP9 can out of ATF jail, if you wanna talk about lock time and not getting blowback.
@roypaulcarter4654
@roypaulcarter4654 4 жыл бұрын
My wife is going to be upset.
@roypaulcarter4654
@roypaulcarter4654 4 жыл бұрын
Law enforcement does not need full auto
@valiant545
@valiant545 4 жыл бұрын
Its a sub gun, why the hell wouldn't they want full auto for it?
@roypaulcarter4654
@roypaulcarter4654 4 жыл бұрын
Based Horse Best Horse I am sure they do but only the military should have full auto. No law enforcement agency need that kind of force against citizens.
@joshuarowlett7770
@joshuarowlett7770 5 жыл бұрын
A Glock and a micro roni is still cheaper
@elliottatwell1155
@elliottatwell1155 4 жыл бұрын
And a Ford Fiesta is cheaper than a Porsche GT2 RS. Score one for making retarded comparisons lol.
@FDNY101202
@FDNY101202 5 жыл бұрын
Looks better w/ b&t mags
@usernameisusername
@usernameisusername 5 жыл бұрын
Sexy! And I don't mean the khakis and skinny belt. I like this product.
@Thoroughly_Wet
@Thoroughly_Wet 5 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself 😏
@Thoroughly_Wet
@Thoroughly_Wet 5 жыл бұрын
@@dirtytruck4536 about 3 or 4 minutes after I pull out bruh
@Thoroughly_Wet
@Thoroughly_Wet 5 жыл бұрын
@@dirtytruck4536 ah yeah
@checkpoint3260
@checkpoint3260 5 жыл бұрын
I like the shirt... but he may need to up the cup size
@paulcolburn1208
@paulcolburn1208 5 жыл бұрын
$2300 are you high? Might as well buy a Kriss vector. Yeah we’re expensive as hell but we’re tier 1 so......apparently the last iteration wasn’t tier 1 enough with its $1200 price tag. Just dumb
@cd-kd8mb
@cd-kd8mb 2 жыл бұрын
Looks hideous w the glock mags..i wouldn't change mine for anything..
@LatinoJackson
@LatinoJackson 5 жыл бұрын
Like any new product, if the msrp is too high, it’s not going to sell well and die out, just stick to 9mm ARs for a quarter of the price, they’re better
@eternalvoid8153
@eternalvoid8153 5 жыл бұрын
😴 CZ Scorpion >>>
@rustyshackelford6372
@rustyshackelford6372 5 жыл бұрын
First!
@xDieselv
@xDieselv 5 жыл бұрын
michael hi
@buddy9577
@buddy9577 5 жыл бұрын
SCORPION IS A HELL OF ALOT CHEAPER AND JUST AS OR MORE RELIABLE.
@Unsound_advice
@Unsound_advice 5 жыл бұрын
Haven’t heard the poors so bitter since a Grand Thumb post.
@beardoggin8963
@beardoggin8963 5 жыл бұрын
$2300? But my PSA AR9 is the same gun for $500 lol
@scottgti20t
@scottgti20t 5 жыл бұрын
Same gun? Not even close. Fires the same round sure and takes Glock mags yes. But ar9s tend to be far more finicky. This is built like a Swiss watch. Well designed and precision machined, very reliable. The ar9 is a cool toy but it's no Swiss watch. I own PSA guns too, not an ar9, and they work great. But u get what u pay for and this is another tier of quality and craftsmanship.
@vneeson9773
@vneeson9773 5 жыл бұрын
scottpewpew seems legit
@beardoggin8963
@beardoggin8963 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottgti20t it was a joke dude. Every video on YT of a carbine or rifle that costs over $700 or a carry handgun that costs over $400 always has somebody comment on how their cheapo gun is a much better value and is better over all.
@scottgti20t
@scottgti20t 5 жыл бұрын
Ohhh yea ok. My bad... Totally missed it. Figured u actually were "that guy" lol
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottgti20t To be fair I thought it was a legit "that guy" post also. My eyes rolled so hard when I read it that I went blind for 10 minutes.
@bernincoal1
@bernincoal1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so sick and tired of everything being Glock compatible. There are scores of customers that have S&W, Sig, Beretta and others who'd love to slide their mags in there. Yes, I know Glock is the most popular brand, but come on.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 5 жыл бұрын
YOU SHUT THE HELL UP
@beck4218
@beck4218 5 жыл бұрын
Go polish your dirt floors Bro
@chrissewell1608
@chrissewell1608 5 жыл бұрын
Yep...I agree. That is why I like my Ruger PCC. But, these are in a whole different class. And for the Law Enforcement guys already using a department issued Glock. Then they can easily transition to these guns.
@nckogle1
@nckogle1 5 жыл бұрын
TFB TV oh fuck 😂😂😂😂
@coyotevigilant
@coyotevigilant 5 жыл бұрын
@@jakew2192 Really? When and where is this info?
@septor-og6hi
@septor-og6hi 5 жыл бұрын
Government made! For the government! What about you people of this nation?
@beardoggin8963
@beardoggin8963 5 жыл бұрын
You dont really matter. A lot of companies are Fudds anyway. You dont need full auto or a real stock on a short barrel carbine. The govt always knows best.
@anthonyioane4438
@anthonyioane4438 5 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Villa he's saying the major firearms frims are government push overs.
@nmtay
@nmtay 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, all of those are getting banned. You didn't know? Your everyday law-abiding citizen is too dangerous to own something like this, ...or pretty much anything else.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 5 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Villa He was using sarcasm and hyperbole to make a factual point and it sailed right over your head.
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