Should Chelsea have been awarded a penalty for handball? | Ref Watch looks at FA Cup semi-finals

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Ref Watch dissect the controversial decisions that took place in the two FA Cup semi-finals, including the Coventry disallowed goal in extra-time and Chelsea's appeal for a penalty when Jack Grealish appeared to handle the ball in the area.
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@jtlampsu2 29 күн бұрын

Even Grealish knew he had, after his smirking face, afterwards.

@leedavis6000 29 күн бұрын

So basically Chelsea didn’t get a penalty. That could have got them to an fa cup final. Due to the var assistant thinking he had seen it. That’s poor.

@smelledgeface1867 29 күн бұрын

Obvious hand ball - oh wait its man city? Nevermind

@folajimiajayi4533 29 күн бұрын

No excuse, VAR should have called the referee to the screen for Grealish handball, 'clear and obvious error'

@karrole88 24 күн бұрын

It was not an error but deliberate

@user-zn4hs8ky5q 29 күн бұрын

I don't understand what an handball is anymore

@seemorecutts8905 29 күн бұрын

Neither do the people who are paid to know

@jamesbowler1985 28 күн бұрын

Nobody does, don’t worry

@rem_kay 27 күн бұрын

Never mind. The referees know and that’s the most important thing

@anmoldhingra7467 24 күн бұрын

They dont as you can see @@rem_kay

@nametsego 29 күн бұрын

This is tiring. Good on Nottingham for calling it out

@FurioussBear 29 күн бұрын

New title : why wasn't Chelsea awarded a penalty for that blatant handball?

@davidpegram8068 28 күн бұрын

Getting ridiculous now this

@iamsoola89 28 күн бұрын

Final should have been Chelsea vs. Coventry

@davidpegram8068 28 күн бұрын

@@iamsoola89 100percent

@kevinpillay6103 29 күн бұрын

If ever you have an easy handball penalty desicion it was Grealish. He moved his hand towards the ball and deflected it wide. May not have been a goal as keeper may have it covered but handball all day long.

@craiggillingham8399 29 күн бұрын

How is Wan Bissaka a penalty but Ashley Young is NOT ?

@stuartyao4440 29 күн бұрын

Chelsea should have got a pen for that. It’s so sad to see these faulty decisions take place especially in a situation where Chelsea were in fact the better team and deserved the win and Thiago silva legend player last chance to win a big trophy

@liangheuuc 29 күн бұрын

VAR is never the problem, these dodgy referees are

@AItakover 28 күн бұрын

It's a tool for justifying fixes

@FIDELISUDAMA-ix8wp 26 күн бұрын

Var is also the problem because if it was Chelsea player who make the handball even if ref ignore it var will have called him to check

@04foreverinvincible69 25 күн бұрын

@@FIDELISUDAMA-ix8wpvar is the technology the refs operate it

@chuksugboh5496 29 күн бұрын

You guys are a joke always have a way to justify a bad decision by your incompetent reffs

@AItakover 28 күн бұрын

Yes ,puppets and puppets...are we all stupidly gullible sky? Gary devilled doesn't want forest checking for corruption.,can't think why ??

@JesterLaughAtU 29 күн бұрын

Did I miss the bit where they explained why it wasnt a pen for Chelsea? If we are back to "oh I thought the ref saw it" Isn't that the same lame arse excuse they had when they didn't pickup on the Diaz goal against Spurs. Are they really saying VAR didn't even look at it? Isn't that what they are there for? Jokes and jibes about corruption aside. If the ref had been asked to look at it again, and said no pen. I am not going to agree or like it, but I can at least know that the system in place is being used. This, this just smacks of, of...lazyness, incompetence, not taking things seriously?

@LA-fr7fx 29 күн бұрын

These refs, left school at 16 wity zero qualifications, why shoukd one expect better?

@wayneclarke9695 29 күн бұрын

This don't surprise us the referee and var in bed with Manchester City them in bedding in corruption

@dagogogreene9155 21 күн бұрын

Not Man city… with the Emiratis, (if that’s a word). They pay their side hustles, so they definitely would give them leeway most of the time. I’ll always blame the refs for their lack of integrity.

@herschelgroenewald3678 29 күн бұрын

Just excuses!!! And nothing happens further, not fair towards the players or the clubs.

@MrNullifier 29 күн бұрын

Oliver getting payed for refereeing in Saudi and UAE and people are shocked by all the decisions going City's way??

@04foreverinvincible69 25 күн бұрын

Facts most of the decisions city gets he’s on var or the ref him or jerrard gillet but people want to act like it’s ok and perfectly fine

@GaryPye-vv3cw 23 күн бұрын

Exactly that. Soft pens free kicks. The Kovacic decision earlier in the season. 2 nasty tackles on two key players within two mins of each other. Any other team and they are down to ten me. He had already made the decision not to send him before Rice hit the deck??? Disgrace

@edittide9842 29 күн бұрын

No need for debate or discussions. It is stated in the rules. “Play will be conducted in a manner that is beneficial and is favourable to Manchester City”

@nicholasbolas 29 күн бұрын

Another awful week of refereeing, all started from the Chelsea City game.

@book2316 29 күн бұрын

Chelsea should have had a penalty or at the very least a VAR review.

@nicholasroy2960 28 күн бұрын

In every other job on the planet a mistake like that is fireable, yet they send Dermott sell a load of bullocks to defend their incompetent employees. That is the PGMOL for you

@bruhh6385 29 күн бұрын

“we don’t have the moving pictures” you mean videos lmao?

@KittySofttpaws 28 күн бұрын

They don't show us either way and never have. It's always still images when I watch this bs ref watch.

@christopherdavison4400 29 күн бұрын

VAR have destroyed the so called beautiful game.

@miguelhackett4352 28 күн бұрын

You'r unfortunate

@tomwilliams3610 28 күн бұрын

I agree but for the weekend events having no VAR wouldn’t have changed anything as it didn’t get involved when it should have done

@emmanuelk.tambwe2628 28 күн бұрын

It would be much better to just scrap the whole VAR system bcz it is absolutely effectless as intended. ...

@angeloduke8087 28 күн бұрын

Lucky VAR is there, if not! Barcelona and Real Madrid have scored another 1000 off side goals, common bro😅😅😅

@tonythebomb4147 28 күн бұрын

VAR KILLING THE BEAUTIFUL GAME OF FOOTBALL.

@laurasands8322 29 күн бұрын

You'll never see a keeper sent off for two yellow cards for time wasting, referees aren't that brave.

@JuanGutierrez-ou2hf 29 күн бұрын

What gets me More Mad is that you can See when they play the full clips Grealish extended his arm out towards the ball, while AWB finishes the clip with his arm behind him because he’s trying to bring it in behind him! So Grealish who stuck his arm out gets away with it but AWB Whose trying to move his arm away gets the call against him

@russellward4624 28 күн бұрын

No he didn't. He jumped. When you jump your arms go out. He pulled his arm back towards his body.

@Mikelsteven 24 күн бұрын

You jump with your arms wide in a wall? @@russellward4624

@zygmuntkozlowski3742 29 күн бұрын

Chelsea should of had a stone wall penalty, probably would of, it wasn't Man City they were playing.

@asiam9788 29 күн бұрын

MC appear to be the only team that are getting majority of these VAR penalty decisions in their favour…blatant handball as Greilish hand is moving towards the ball / Doku high foot against Liv / Rodri handball against Everton (title decider) a few seasons ago. VAR just don’t want to intervene for any decisions against MC…it’s always play-on, whereas everybody else seem to be suffering their fair share from VAR. Key reason also why they’re won 2 PL titles with 1-point in last 4 seasons.

@Robert-lu9tk 28 күн бұрын

Oliver to give decision against man city that never happened just think of the bonus he on being on city's books

@DavidRegaL-lw5xz 24 күн бұрын

Carragher hates City and keeps shouting 115 everywhere but doesn't start making up conspiracy theories and didn't think Doku's was a foul..get your base organised then comeback

@b1gdawg316 29 күн бұрын

They give the most bogus call 1 minute of discussion but the rest they joke around about the whole time?

@bensam8578 29 күн бұрын

Why not answer yes or no? Was it or was it not a penalty against Man City?

@xhowitisx 29 күн бұрын

😂 What a load of shite coming out of Dermots mouth

@garlic_bread4769 28 күн бұрын

New show name: 4 bellends sitting at a table

@Gjunya 28 күн бұрын

no going over the clear Coventry City handball that wasn't called for man united?

@ViktorThedon-vd5co 28 күн бұрын

The ref must be on man city payroll 😆

@shadowSephiroth 29 күн бұрын

Excuses after excuses. Manutd one is pen but the other is not. Maybe in 2035 fa will investigate this one also along with the other 250 charges that they already have. Meanwhile Everton and forest will get 30 pt deduction each in their league 2 standings

@isaacbernardo1691 29 күн бұрын

Handball should be handball no ifs or buts

@johnchisanga8187 29 күн бұрын

VAR is destroying is football , this rising VAR issues needs to be looked at seriously

@uthmaannamuthama5532 29 күн бұрын

If it wasn't a penalty why he didn't give chelsea a corner bcoz in plain sight the hit opposition player on its way out.this shows corruption at its best if not match fixing period there's no explanation to this.chelsea were cheated

@fwphysiotherapy3010 28 күн бұрын

only 10 seconds talking about the Chelsea penalty? but the headlines is about Chelsea?

@Samuel-qe9lj 29 күн бұрын

That one a clear handball what the lad doing in the var booth drinking beer and tea?

@user-zp4hs9kn5s 28 күн бұрын

Exactly. A hand in the box is a penalty. Do u remember ball to hand . Unless its clear the players have moved to the ball , then it's not a penalty

@eiler1987 28 күн бұрын

The way I see it. Grealish’s arm is covering the space for 1 more person in the wall. So if his arm is not tucked when he jumps. The wall opens and he is in essence covering the space between with his arm. And they go to var. it’s a clear and obvious error that it hit his arm. So Oliver needs to go look. And then if no pen, it’s a corner cause you see the defection. Chelsea should have won by 3 but Jackson couldn’t hit the ocean if he was standing in a tide pool

@princejuliusnenebidarkson4076 25 күн бұрын

Betting is corrupting the beautiful game. Even the officials are also betting for more cash

@bensmethurst3379 29 күн бұрын

Its a f-ing pen what are they paying you for

@user-xj4gn1qt2f 25 күн бұрын

That was a penalty for Chelsea but united wasn't a penalty

@robertlee-webb1130 29 күн бұрын

Another video focusing on how the refs (WRONG) decisions have had a major impact on a game. Theme of this year, happening week in and week out at this point. Once is understandable, twice a problem .. but at this point it has become a trend across mutliple competitions and multiple games. How can they blame anyone for calling it corruption ?

@andrewarnold85 28 күн бұрын

Sorry but if the ref didn't see it then isn't it VARs job to help out with moments like that? Juat admit that the people doing the job aren't capable or that there is corruption because I don't see how it's anything else

@neilpeace7734 20 күн бұрын

What annoyed me the most was that the commentators knew it had hit something and the main one immediately said "DEFLECTION!" and then "Well, surely that has to be a corner?" The other guy, Jez I think said "It hit his arm but it was by his side." Clearly it wasn't by his side it was out at 45 so I think, more than any other decision I have seen this season, it really makes you wonder about the credibility of the officiating. So I think the MP we like did well not to absolutely do his nut and get himself red carded.

@rezlaso2742 29 күн бұрын

Exact same situation as the Ashley Youngs one, whats the difference??

@chadsmith6033 28 күн бұрын

Surely Man city owners paying premier league referees to work in the middle East is a conflict of interest and should be looked at! Even if it's not corrupt it doesn't look good. Especially considering Michael Olivers performances this season,

@razasco 25 күн бұрын

When it comes to Manchester City and Manchester United the rules are different 😢

@ryanjackson4004 28 күн бұрын

The wan bissaka pen was a pisstake how close he was. Yet City game was a bang on pen

@juvwon 29 күн бұрын

It's one of two things, either the PGMOL puts consistently incompetent refs in charge of decisions, which means they need to be stepped down or they are complicit in the biased decisions or lack thereof, which means they are corrupt.

@thatswhatshesaid3126 26 күн бұрын

How does Dermot Gallagher manage to say the referee was wrong without saying the referee was wrong 😵‍💫

@skyshooter4009 28 күн бұрын

If that was Liverpool being denied a penalty there would've have been a major uproar in the English media. This is the 5th final that Chelsea was denied an obvious call by the ref.

@janeil8184 29 күн бұрын

I am becoming bored watching this madness happens every week. Madness.

@KennedyGalacha 26 күн бұрын

VAR is a mess to the beautiful game

@rikachu571 23 күн бұрын

This isnt a difficult one. There is absolutely no debate that it strikes his hand. All that is left to determine is whether or not, in the opinion of the onfield referee, it meets the various thresholds for a handball- arm in an unnatural position/makes his body bigger etc. The fact that it is subjective means that the referee absolutely should review it.

@anderslarsson7426 25 күн бұрын

Why don’t ask the officials.

@nicholasgakuu5223 27 күн бұрын

Man city have paid the refs..we can't put anything past a club with 115 chatges.

@petermoffat3335 25 күн бұрын

What a waste of time asking him anything. He just backs up any obvious mistakes that have been made. Onana booked for time wasting and goes away for a drink of water instead of restarting the game is the same incident! Does this mean when you're getting booked for kicking someone, you can carry on kicking them until play restarts?

@LA-fr7fx 29 күн бұрын

Fans please boycot football for a week; that is the best response!

@davidotto9216 29 күн бұрын

Michael Oliver and friends was UAE employees 🤣 they love to make money from Middie East country 🤑

@LA-fr7fx 29 күн бұрын

Exactly, they will not upset their pay masters! Boycott football!

@beatlebrian4404 29 күн бұрын

They only gave a penalty against United to make the game more exciting!

@jacobbird1920 28 күн бұрын

man city is so corrupt it truly hurts to watch.( not a chelsea fan )

@user-sr7eq9gx7q 19 күн бұрын

Why is it when it is Chelsea advantages, like Manchester city greenish hand ball that even Conner Kik was not given, and arsenal Gabriel foul against madueke, which they scored with counter attacked, your England VAR disappeared, but when it is their disadvantages, they will reappear.

@QuicknStraight 26 күн бұрын

Ok, let's think about this logically: The ref awarded a goal kick, so he clearly didn't see the ball hit Grealish's arm. The VAR sees the ball hit the arm, so he can't possibly decide that it's not a major error, can he? If that's the case, all the VAR is doing is rubber stamping the referee's error/incompetence. So what's the point of VAR?

@nzanvictor6759 26 күн бұрын

What's this man saying??? Is it a hand ball or not??? EPL official are too bias

@adamroberts9242 28 күн бұрын

The 115 goes deep

@Samuel-qe9lj 29 күн бұрын

What the hell is complex about it…. If I can do it in the basement… sure they can do it

@tomscott4438 28 күн бұрын

Ref Watch? More like "Make excuses for the Ref". They rarely call out even the most egregious and obvious errors.

@Kaiser6376 28 күн бұрын

-have a debate on whether it’s a penalty or not -show sympathy for referees - repeat next week And we wonder why this keeps happening and Forest come out with statements like that? We want change and these casual conversations aren’t changing anything, they’ll have this exact same conversation next week.

@ChristianHeid7 28 күн бұрын

Chelsea should be asking for the audio from VAR on this call. Personally - I feel the manager needs to be able to challenge a call in situations like this. It is obviously wrong call. It's ALSO an incident that VAR should be checking since it happened inside the box. The PGMOL is a total laughing stock after this last weekend. The P stands for "professional" btw... Not seen anything professional about what is going on with refs calls and the total lack of responses from them on these horrendous calls in the modern game.

@tinayerusero156 28 күн бұрын

The pen on Wan Bissaka was shite. The city one is an undoubtable penalty anywhere VAR OR NOT

@hussienjammal2254 28 күн бұрын

Sadly for Coventry? And not sadly for giving a wrong penalty against United?

@FizzzieCat 28 күн бұрын

While not faultless, rugby’s TMO works much better. Can’t the ref tell VAR his decision, then VAR has an opportunity to confirm, or ask ref to look at the replay? That way VAR knows the ref’s decision and could have at least give a corner.

@richardbabulal1648 29 күн бұрын

Two semi ....two different ruling?

@mukelabaistanley7634 28 күн бұрын

VAR flavors whichever team they want, not what that man is explaining.we all have eyes to see.what is needed is a standardized rules.

@ianpurcell4445 26 күн бұрын

Should have been at least a corner

@harenrawal2182 28 күн бұрын

I think both both were penalties.

@christianjohn9359 28 күн бұрын

How can var tell the difference for the offside with those thick lines

@onefootinhell7931 28 күн бұрын

For any wrong decisions they have en explanations... May be we just don't now the rules? Or may be they just play with them how they want?

@King_Anchor 28 күн бұрын

See how they just easily dismissed the blatant penalty?

@deacondavidviscount7579 28 күн бұрын

What do we expect players to do with their arms? If they are in a natural position, not out at 90 degree angle or above their head, but close to their body, it can’t be a penalty. Grielish and Wan Bissaka….neither are penalties for me. However, handball will always be controversial…the more they try and simplify it, the more complicated it becomes! That will never change!

@adrianrussell580 27 күн бұрын

1” off side is stupid

@jamesvmusic2677 29 күн бұрын

Absolutely Yes

@cfclazio621 24 күн бұрын

loved Frank Lampard as a player ,but he hasn't got a clue what a penalty is just like his management skills ! [pundit on tv covering the match ] ..........

@johna743 26 күн бұрын

I'm losing Faith on VAR, is like the modern way Mafia, Corrupt and biased Referees

@davebaker8681 29 күн бұрын

There are more debates about the referee's/VAR decisions for the weekend than about the games. Shows that there's definitely a problem.

@marcinonaczyszyn2651 28 күн бұрын

Why didn't he ask for walker's 2 fouls, one inside the box and one outside the box?

@AnthonyMonaghan 29 күн бұрын

Yes.

@bryndavies4984 29 күн бұрын

Should be sent off time still being played penaltys or not games not finished conspiracy

@fortuneasuoma7073 27 күн бұрын

What sort of foolish explanation did he give for the chelsea penalty?

@MikeRono 25 күн бұрын

5 mins and 16 seconds of my life and i will never get back

@nelsoncarvalho6338 27 күн бұрын

Clear penalty for Chelsea.

@FIDELISUDAMA-ix8wp 26 күн бұрын

Var also the problem because if it was Chelsea player that make the handball even if ref. Ignore it Var will have called him to check. Both Var and ref always against Chelsea when it comes to Chelsea playing man city, Liverpool, man u. I don't know why the hate for Chelsea. That oliver or what is his name self has been doing it against Chelsea several times, they should call him to order or stop to officiate any Chelsea match.

@AngadSodhi 29 күн бұрын

They need to try the tennis or cricket style of VAR. VAR should only be invoked on request. Each team gets 3 reviews per game that the captain/coach can request. On those reviews the game must be rereferred. None of this clear and obvious nonsense. If the decision is not overturned, the team loses the review else they get the count back.

@AngadSodhi 29 күн бұрын

This will also solve the problem of teams hounding the ref for decisions