“Should I be Killed?” - Former Muslim Explains Why He Converted to Christianity

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7 ай бұрын

Patrick Bet-David moderates a religious discussion between Muslims and Christians. In this short clip, Christians discuss what their biggest opposition is to Islam. Brother Rachid converted from Islam to Christianity and explains why in this clip.
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@mvj1153
@mvj1153 5 ай бұрын
To admit that it is justified to punish someone by killing in Islam and then at the same time to say Islam is a peaceful religion is the epitome of madness.
@petroboomn7491
@petroboomn7491 5 ай бұрын
Its perfectly logical. Islam is a peaceful religion for Muslims....not for those who aren't.
@mvj1153
@mvj1153 5 ай бұрын
@@petroboomn7491 Muhammad, Police be Upon Him
@zyguy8009
@zyguy8009 5 ай бұрын
@@mvj1153That’s pretty damn good
@rained23JMTi
@rained23JMTi 5 ай бұрын
Do you know there is a theory that Islam is actually a rip off of Christianity and Judaism, where do you think all this killing comes from if not from the bible. God punish, God isn't as peaceful as what humans or Christian want it to be even the symbolic of sacrifice of Jesus also by being crucified till death , you think the God is peaceful for human eyes ?
@udmahraj4076
@udmahraj4076 5 ай бұрын
What happened to non-Muslims in Islamic countries say the truth how islam treat with non-Muslims... afganistan Bangladesh Pakistan are wiped out of non-Muslims by Islamists...they are the most hypocritical people in the world 😢
@jamiepanter3218
@jamiepanter3218 6 ай бұрын
Bloody hell. Just calmly saying another human has to die for walking away from a religion is utterly insane.
@ricardomadleno564
@ricardomadleno564 6 ай бұрын
It’s delusion and brainwashing
@wxyz1
@wxyz1 6 ай бұрын
For us,it is insane. But for nearly 57 countries in the world,it's day to day practice.
@Mustaschy
@Mustaschy 6 ай бұрын
These two are clearly insane and live in an evil fantasy
@joeymorris4589
@joeymorris4589 6 ай бұрын
This guy rails about being put on a watch list 5 mins after saying the hosts should be killed and he would be happy to do it.
@joselopez-he1mc
@joselopez-he1mc 6 ай бұрын
He forgot to mention an fbi agent was arrested during that terrorist attack in tx because he was so close to the action that the cops thought he was involved. He knew what they were up to and did nothing but watch.
@chinemeremomeh21
@chinemeremomeh21 25 күн бұрын
I am a born Christian, my faith has been dwindling for years now, i have reached out to some muslem i know to learn about the Muslims ways and convert if possible, this podcast single handedly made me whole Christian again. Thank you Jesus ❤️
@AndazeBayan1
@AndazeBayan1 23 күн бұрын
Instead of forming your opinion based on a single youtube video, read Quran or bible or any other holy book thoroughly of a particular religion that you want to understand. Faith should be based on reasoning, logic, common sense practicality, reality of history and human nature. I suggest you to gain knowledge about different religion, philosophies, history, politics etc. Because all of these things are interlinked. Dont have quick judgment and continue to learn. You dont have to believe everything you read. Acquiring knowledge is the key to have wisdom. With time you will understand whats right and whats wrong. In addition, I also did the same. Bible has many contradictions and errors that indicate the men made corruption. Hence, the text can not be trusted. If you really want to understand Quran and the ideology you can read a tafseer of Quran, such as Tafheemul Quran which can be downloaded from google playstore in English and it has translation, context, background and explanation of the verses of the quran that was revealed in a duration of 23 years. I am a muslim and I dont agree with everything a scholar says about a specific topic because I know that difference of opinion is natural for humans. Thats why there are several sects and school of thoughts.
@islambary2menkom
@islambary2menkom 22 күн бұрын
Poor soul .
@riccimb4419
@riccimb4419 22 күн бұрын
Hey! I love that this video helped you! However, I would encourage you to spend some time in the word and to pray about your faith so that it can be fortified. Be vulnerable with the Lord, call him and he will answer! Have a great dayyy! God bless❤
@CaneyeStroKyurmeet
@CaneyeStroKyurmeet 22 күн бұрын
Amen
@taliastartiou-wx3cm
@taliastartiou-wx3cm 22 күн бұрын
@@islambary2menkomyour soul will be rotting in hell. Seek help.
@majesty10xu15
@majesty10xu15 22 күн бұрын
What I see from the 2 Muslim brothers is the classic counter argument, which is not addressing questions directly but rather deflecting and redirecting the argument to try to create a false equivalence.
@nunya54
@nunya54 15 күн бұрын
It's not a false equivalence. If Christians claim the Old Testament is from God and the Word of God, then to be critical of Islam for the same laws would be critical of their own God.
@David-bx7cj
@David-bx7cj 8 күн бұрын
Because it is the Bible does not mean it is prescriptive Yes, it is the word of God, but also God in flesh has fulfilled that law 2000 years ago. Hence that law is descriptive and prescriptive in its historical environment and context but not in the new covenant brought by Jesus Christ who fulfilled and was innocently put to death by the law
@hobdns5933
@hobdns5933 3 күн бұрын
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@veritasdel3649
@veritasdel3649 18 сағат бұрын
@@nunya54 It is when Christ came back and corrected the old laws. Thats the difference your using a whatabout but Christ already dissavowed the thing your whatabouting. It proved Christ corrects the ild testament and by effect your viewpoint as well.
@shaysf7
@shaysf7 5 ай бұрын
I was born, raised, and forced to be a Muslim for 25 years. But I couldn’t take it anymore and I converted to Christianity. I can never go back to my birth country Iran and my family disowned me, but I don’t regret anything. I am going to live once, and I refuse to be the slave of other people’s beliefs.
@rafaeljunior3819
@rafaeljunior3819 5 ай бұрын
Amen
@mikefitzpatrick43
@mikefitzpatrick43 5 ай бұрын
Good for you Shay.
@foziahumera12
@foziahumera12 5 ай бұрын
It must be so difficult, I hope that the overwhelming love of God compensates and is some comfort to you..❤
@Ntwadumela89
@Ntwadumela89 5 ай бұрын
I’m happy you found Christ!..but I would seriously question why your family disowned you!..I know a few middle eastern girls that soon as they came over here they went wild sleeping around and being whores!..that’s a big thing in the west in terms of freedom!!..I happy you found Christ and freedom to live how you want but some people lie just to justify their disgusting life style
@Nik-xi2ri
@Nik-xi2ri 5 ай бұрын
If every baby born, is considered Muslim. Sure 😂 it's the fastest growing religion
@ogbonnasam9997
@ogbonnasam9997 Ай бұрын
To be born a Christian or just to be born in a Christian nation is a blessing a lot of us take for granted.
@Bunyourdesires
@Bunyourdesires Ай бұрын
Same here, glad to be born Muslim
@itsmecarlla
@itsmecarlla Ай бұрын
Fr
@ibrahimhajji6210
@ibrahimhajji6210 Ай бұрын
Find out the origin of Christianity then you will know its not near what you thought.
@sarahrose7269
@sarahrose7269 Ай бұрын
@@ibrahimhajji6210 Find out the origin of Islam then you will know its not near what you thought. Because your Prophet wasn't as good as you thought. Forget what anyone said about him and research, you'll realise what I mean.
@ibrahimhajji6210
@ibrahimhajji6210 Ай бұрын
​@sarahrose7269 if you thought Islam started with prophet Muhammad you have a long way to go...do your homework and get back to me.
@JonesF1983
@JonesF1983 Ай бұрын
The “gentleman” in the light blue gown is clearly there to fight. He wants a boxing ring, not a podcast.
@ibnefayaz5107
@ibnefayaz5107 15 күн бұрын
All these christians who are enjoying in comments should watch the whole debate and realise that their own scripture bible has worst than this: Deuteronomy 13:-> "If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife [c]of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall not [d]consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you." and All these liberals,Athiests or people of other rekigions who are saying that if islam is so peaceful then why punishment of killling. I have some questions for you , will you be killed you go against the Government of a country or against the constitution of the country or you are found guilty of treason ? The answer is yes, so why do you guys have no problem in that law but have a problem against this Law of Islam. Why these double standards ?Similary The reason you will be killed is because you are going against the Governmen. And remember guys A person will be killed only if he openly goes and makes it public so if you keep it within yourself noone will know it and you will be living your life then .Only when he makes it public there are consequences still after that, He will be given three chances to come back , his doubts will be clarified. But if he persists then yes he will be killed.
@hobdns5933
@hobdns5933 3 күн бұрын
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@hobdns5933
@hobdns5933 3 күн бұрын
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@ClientBinan
@ClientBinan 22 күн бұрын
Im in the Saudi Aribia the Holy land of Muslim in my 8 years here as a Expat employee I can say Muslim has no Love compared to the Love that we gained as a Christian
@ibnefayaz5107
@ibnefayaz5107 15 күн бұрын
All these christians who are enjoying in comments should watch the whole debate and realise that their own scripture bible has worst than this: Deuteronomy 13:-> "If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife [c]of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall not [d]consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you." and All these liberals,Athiests or people of other rekigions who are saying that if islam is so peaceful then why punishment of killling. I have some questions for you , will you be killed you go against the Government of a country or against the constitution of the country or you are found guilty of treason ? The answer is yes, so why do you guys have no problem in that law but have a problem against this Law of Islam. Why these double standards ?Similary The reason you will be killed is because you are going against the Governmen. And remember guys A person will be killed only if he openly goes and makes it public so if you keep it within yourself noone will know it and you will be living your life then .Only when he makes it public there are consequences still after that, He will be given three chances to come back , his doubts will be clarified. But if he persists then yes he will be killed.
@hobdns5933
@hobdns5933 3 күн бұрын
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@jayknight9283
@jayknight9283 7 ай бұрын
A Muslim can live here relatively peacefully, but can a Christian live in a Muslim state peacefully under the same circumstance? This is something that must change and we as Americans need to come to grips with Islam is not compatible with America today or ever.
@jacobbaradaeus6250
@jacobbaradaeus6250 6 ай бұрын
Bingo.
@Hanadsrequiem
@Hanadsrequiem 6 ай бұрын
islam doesnt seek to be compatible with ever shifting morality and modern day liberalism and hedonism. Islam is for all times and a perfect book nuanced in its approach covering all judicial topics. Islam is simple , easy to practice, and its not overbearing at all.
@omaniomani6178
@omaniomani6178 6 ай бұрын
We have many Christians in our country (Oman) who never faced any burning of their book or any attacks to what they wear while on the other side Muslim women get attacked in western countries because of the hijab or group of men getting attacked because they are praying. Our neighbours are Christians and we meet on daily basis never did they say that we are scared to live here. Besides religion, they feel safer living here since the percentage of crime is way more less than USA and bullying is barely known. Alhamdullilah for Islam and i always say you got to search of Islam not from the enemies but from the people of Islam themselves.
@the_usual_suspect9437
@the_usual_suspect9437 6 ай бұрын
​@@omaniomani6178false!
@MoeBeenHooping
@MoeBeenHooping 6 ай бұрын
Actually, yes, in many Muslim countries when the population is 80, 90%, Muslim and 10% Christianity or other religions Muslims do not go out their way to harm those are the people at all unless they are provoked first. Know your rights know your facts before talking that bullshit
@user-dv9lb7gp7x
@user-dv9lb7gp7x 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a religious person but I feel so lucky that I was born in a Cristian country 🎉
@UmamiPapi
@UmamiPapi 6 ай бұрын
Being born in a Christian country doesn't get you into Heaven. Only accepting Christ as personal Savior does. Don't let good fortune send you to Hell because you never saw a need for a savior.
@milksummoree6575
@milksummoree6575 6 ай бұрын
U think ur lucky cuz ur pastors teaches u life is just a phase and everyone will end up in heaven cuz jesus christ dies for our sins even if youre a serial killer. If its like that then why are we here on earth? What is the point exactly
@robot8672
@robot8672 6 ай бұрын
Christian is peace, you can do what you want, you can do it with freedom
@seanlahm4826
@seanlahm4826 6 ай бұрын
You cant even spell it. We don't live in a "Christian" country. If we did, I would be a practicing Christian. But I am not, and I can still go about my day. Name the passage from our Constitution that describes establishing a "Christian" country. Its not there. Only a reference to "God" . What God? It doesn't say.
@mauit5036
@mauit5036 6 ай бұрын
I hope you’re not referring to the United States as a Christian country because it’s definitely not one…
@exploreway6935
@exploreway6935 Ай бұрын
For a peaceful world let no nation be under islamic law
@Raed.A.U
@Raed.A.U Ай бұрын
This is certainly an emotional speech, but it is not practical, and the results and realistic statistics are the failure of the Western system and the advantage of the Islamic system . You can take a look at the level of prevalence of crimes for example
@ParrotsTT
@ParrotsTT 18 күн бұрын
​@Raed.A.U the failure of Western systems is because of the mass immigration of Muslim people, Islamic system only works for Muslims, no one else
@ibnefayaz5107
@ibnefayaz5107 15 күн бұрын
All these christians who are enjoying in comments should watch the whole debate and realise that their own scripture bible has worst than this: Deuteronomy 13:-> "If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife [c]of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall not [d]consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you." and All these liberals,Athiests or people of other rekigions who are saying that if islam is so peaceful then why punishment of killling. I have some questions for you , will you be killed you go against the Government of a country or against the constitution of the country or you are found guilty of treason ? The answer is yes, so why do you guys have no problem in that law but have a problem against this Law of Islam. Why these double standards ?Similary The reason you will be killed is because you are going against the Governmen. And remember guys A person will be killed only if he openly goes and makes it public so if you keep it within yourself noone will know it and you will be living your life then .Only when he makes it public there are consequences still after that, He will be given three chances to come back , his doubts will be clarified. But if he persists then yes he will be killed.
@user-bl6zc4bp8i
@user-bl6zc4bp8i 13 күн бұрын
​@@Raed.A.UNot interested....❤Y
@iamanonymous7244
@iamanonymous7244 12 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@messerschmitt-bf-109-yl6tp
@messerschmitt-bf-109-yl6tp 16 күн бұрын
I love the person who said "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for Sabbath" He is my God, Lord and love of my life.
@jenniferschiff1800
@jenniferschiff1800 5 ай бұрын
The fact that they clearly believe that people whom leave their religion should be put to death is HIGHLY disturbing.
@nemitv1157
@nemitv1157 5 ай бұрын
Atleast they are honest.
@Bee-dp3st
@Bee-dp3st 5 ай бұрын
That’s satan for you
@user-tf1oo9rj6u
@user-tf1oo9rj6u 5 ай бұрын
Christianity: God is our judge and offered us a gracious pardon and actively does miracles _to bless us,_ but we have a choice whether we will follow God or Satan. As a representative of God, we are commanded to show His kind of true love even to people who are our enemies, seeing them as created in the image of God and with a desire to lead them to repentance from living in sin and salvation. Expectation of eternity is that the sinful parts of you that you still struggle with will be purified, leaving Godly character and the good and wholesome fruits of the spirit as your character and new nature. vs Islam: people are the judge and should be tricking, coercing, killing, and any other deceitful or violent tactic to force people to follow a person who claimed to be god, but didn't do miracles and did things like threaten someone into letting him marry a pre-puberty little girl. Oh, but that's ok, because this warlord _might_ have waited until she was 13 to use her. Blow yourself up to kill others and you'll get women for your selfish desires in the afterlife.
@Dont_Be_Dumb1
@Dont_Be_Dumb1 5 ай бұрын
@@nemitv1157Christian’s are pretty honest. If you don’t repent and follow Christ and the commandments your going to hell where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. See. However he made a way for you.
@mikefitzpatrick43
@mikefitzpatrick43 5 ай бұрын
​@@nemitv1157how so? Because many hide from this fact
@turdferguson7504
@turdferguson7504 7 ай бұрын
I find it disturbing how much respect is being given to this discussion when they actually call for one of these men’s death.
@olivetaelizabeth
@olivetaelizabeth 7 ай бұрын
We need to pray.
@yassineelyacoubi2430
@yassineelyacoubi2430 7 ай бұрын
They are not calling for the death of one another. The Muslim is approaching this from a philosophical perspective. Robert is claiming that his biggest grievance with Islam is that apostates (people who leave a religion) are to be put to death. However there is no way that Robert can logically prove that ordering an apostate is an objectively immoral act since his own religion claims the exact same thing. Jake is proving a point, not calling for the capital punishment on Rachid. Keep in mind this would need a full sharia government, with witnesses, trial, etc. none of these people have the authority to carry out capital punishment on Rachid under Islamic law.
@yassineelyacoubi2430
@yassineelyacoubi2430 7 ай бұрын
Cont. Essentially they are exposing the hypocrisy of these two Christians
@turdferguson7504
@turdferguson7504 7 ай бұрын
@@yassineelyacoubi2430 He is Christian, Christianity does not call for the death of apostasy. This is false. The man when asked said apostates should die.
@yassineelyacoubi2430
@yassineelyacoubi2430 7 ай бұрын
@@turdferguson7504 did you listen to the christian scripture that was read? about killing the family member, friend, etc, who tempts you to leave the religion? Or am i misunderstanding it because it seems very clear that even christianity has this order, even if it is not practiced.
@overwatch2083
@overwatch2083 Ай бұрын
By far one of the best episode on this topic on the internet PBD organisations yet again delivers quality like no other
@hobdns5933
@hobdns5933 3 күн бұрын
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@hobdns5933
@hobdns5933 3 күн бұрын
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@LuiKang043
@LuiKang043 Ай бұрын
The best argument against an Islamic State is the Dawah answer to "What is the punishment for apostasy?" "In an Islamic State it is dea-" yeah case closed. Don't let Islam anywhere near the levers of power. Thank you for your honesty.
@alykhaled5847
@alykhaled5847 26 күн бұрын
if you didn't know that ruling before joining islam you dont get killed. when we tell you if you join islam then leave it you will get killed, are we encouraging you to join the religion or telling you to be carefull and dont join it unless youre 100 percent sure?. In islam there's no room for hypocrisy, you must be honest and pure with ur intentions. you dont join a religion thinking it might be wrong and i change it, then you are a hypocrite
@Servant_of_Allah_956
@Servant_of_Allah_956 23 күн бұрын
Have a read o haters of truth They want to extinguish the light of Allāh with their mouths, but Allāh will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it. It is He who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although those who associate others with Allāh dislike it. Verses from Quran(last revelation)
@LuiKang043
@LuiKang043 23 күн бұрын
@@Servant_of_Allah_956 so what IS the punishment for apostasy?
@ezekielgutierrez9512
@ezekielgutierrez9512 23 күн бұрын
​@@Servant_of_Allah_956 Mohammed is like that one kid in class who copies from the smarter people and tries to pass it off as his own 😅. So Muslims believe in one God, they believe in the same prophets as Jews, they believe in Jesus, but we're supposed to believe that this one guy in a cave by himself received the final revelation. RIIIGHT. Im sorry but that just sounds ridiculous.
@islambary2menkom
@islambary2menkom 22 күн бұрын
You are lying , there's no punishement for changing your religion ,God is the one who will do the punishement in the judgement day for those who change their religion and died disbelievers.
@vinny.morales
@vinny.morales 6 ай бұрын
I thank God to be born a Christian. What a blessing
@blixerie9317
@blixerie9317 6 ай бұрын
i thank god to be not a hypocrite like you.
@SABADKCP2010
@SABADKCP2010 6 ай бұрын
Faith come by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
@nataliegarcia5664
@nataliegarcia5664 6 ай бұрын
Well you can’t be born saved, that’s a conscious decision you have to make for yourself. But yes, being born into a Christian family is such a blessing 🥰🥰
@blixerie9317
@blixerie9317 6 ай бұрын
@@journeybug3050 those guys on the left got exposed as liars and hypocrites in this podcast.
@mohiruddin8207
@mohiruddin8207 6 ай бұрын
@@journeybug3050 yea because they are using the bible
@mulecac2454
@mulecac2454 4 ай бұрын
"He who is without sin may throw the first stone"~ Jesus Christ
@Chartail1
@Chartail1 3 ай бұрын
And you know whats amazing, in that crowd, only Jesus was without sin, so He had the right to cast the first stone. The Law Himself chose forgiveness, chose Grace and chose love, all He said to her was "go and sin no more" , this is the new covenant we follow that was promised by God in the Old Testament.
@marvin._.9939
@marvin._.9939 3 ай бұрын
@@Chartail1never looked at it this way so cool
@tomasrocha6139
@tomasrocha6139 3 ай бұрын
That's an interpolation not found in the oldest manuscripts of the 4th Gospel
@jimboslice2para
@jimboslice2para 3 ай бұрын
He who throws a stone at me, I will reply with a rock. Muslim, Christian or fish.. Jimboslice
@jesusislord7526
@jesusislord7526 3 ай бұрын
John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
@sylvanusjajuamoore6980
@sylvanusjajuamoore6980 20 күн бұрын
After the old testament,Jesus came with the New Testament and Jesus never ordered us to kill but He said we should love one another.
@nunya54
@nunya54 15 күн бұрын
Jesus supported Mosaic law which had lots of killing.
@standard-user-name
@standard-user-name 10 күн бұрын
It seems like the best way to convert someone to Christianity is to show them Islam. I think and hope that applies to current Muslims too, who would have so much to offer us in joining with Christ.
@nunya54
@nunya54 10 күн бұрын
@@standard-user-name If they're a pagan perhaps due to some similarities Christianity has with some pagan faiths (which is due to Paul and the Church borrowing those ideas to easily attract them into Christianity). Otherwise, it is far too difficult for people to go from believing in one God who is all powerful, has complete knowledge and power and cannot be contained by the heavens (like the Bible says) to believing He can be contained inside a woman's uterus, lose power and knowledge and is three in one. Christianity has found it far too difficult over the years to convert Muslims (like Jews with similar beliefs about God). In Islam, God is Most Merciful and Just and loves to forgive the sins of the repentance whereas in Christianity he dies to pay the price of those sins. That and God being a person or three persons and changing so drastically is far too illogical for most people to believe if they're not raised up in the religion. The Trinity alone stumps many Christians raised in Christianity and causes them to leave the religion often.
@hobdns5933
@hobdns5933 3 күн бұрын
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@hobdns5933
@hobdns5933 3 күн бұрын
​@@standard-user-nameFirstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@amo1850
@amo1850 21 күн бұрын
Americans need to hear more of this. Most have no idea what we are up against.
@RS-007
@RS-007 7 ай бұрын
When you openly call for an innocent man's murder just because he has a different opinion than you, you reveal your savagery
@msfyzad
@msfyzad 6 ай бұрын
Just to clarify it is in hadeeth not the Qur'an, people confuse the Qur'an with the hadeeth.....Qur'an is the book of Allah SWT, hadeeth is what was delivered at certain times it's not a direct commandment...
@andreaguilar6685
@andreaguilar6685 6 ай бұрын
Like in leviticus right?
@Luvothrsmor22
@Luvothrsmor22 6 ай бұрын
@@andreaguilar6685Do you not understand that Leviticus is the Old Testament? Christians follow the New Testament as that was when Jesus was introduced into the Bible. You’re confusing Catholicism which teaches both old and new Testament. Jesus came as man in order for Father God to understand the evils and sins of mankind because in Old Testament he kept destroying peoples of the earth due to their evil disobedience but then said he would send his son in flesh to become as man in order for God to understand humans weakness to sin. God is so good that without Jesus coming into human form, he could not understand because God has no evil in him to see just how or why humans did have evil within themselves. That is why Jesus said “ please Father do not judge them for they do not know what they do”.
@user-tc6vm2ip8i
@user-tc6vm2ip8i 6 ай бұрын
@@msfyzad كل ما تتزنق اقلع.
@PepTalkTillYouDrop
@PepTalkTillYouDrop 6 ай бұрын
​@@Luvothrsmor22Catholicism also is about the New Testament. Isn't that why they called Christians aka "Christ-like"? The level of ignorance in these comments is heartbreaking.
@devondavis3288
@devondavis3288 6 ай бұрын
16:25 Rashid said that “if Muslims are a majority today, these two brothers would witness my killing in front of the people and they will be happy, cheering the crowds that I was killed”. The two brothers did not refute or interrupt his statement there like they did everywhere else. I don’t know enough about Islam to hate it but this ☝🏾 is concerning
@dreadfulbodyguard7288
@dreadfulbodyguard7288 6 ай бұрын
Watch ex-muslim conversations and you will find lot of concerning stuff.
@shykhsaif8781
@shykhsaif8781 6 ай бұрын
the bible says the same to kill the apostate if you watched the whole podcast you would have known if you believe in bible then this should not be a concern for you
@user-gr7ez7oo5p
@user-gr7ez7oo5p 6 ай бұрын
​@@shykhsaif8781Where does Jesus say to kill apostates?
@R-rr1
@R-rr1 6 ай бұрын
Watch David wood and apostate prophet
@mfam2371
@mfam2371 6 ай бұрын
​@@shykhsaif8781the old testament law was done away with in the new testament and the coming of Jesus. Jesus made a new covenant
@benjaminkitaura498
@benjaminkitaura498 Ай бұрын
Patrick keep doing great things!
@robmcmaster66
@robmcmaster66 7 күн бұрын
No matter what is said in any of these debates the truth is the truth and nothing any of us say will change a single thing.
@fuuf102
@fuuf102 6 күн бұрын
you have miz. understood. there are specific conditions to this rukling. its like tree. son in the west. it is punchible by d34f here. we arent allowed to force others to accept the truth. theres no point of that. look at the history of Islam, not from ppl who are inspired by shay. tann and dont want u knowin the truth.
@Heaven-be8jd
@Heaven-be8jd 6 ай бұрын
I am an ex Muslim. I haven’t seen my parents or siblings in 27 years as l don’t trust them. I am female and l am so glad to have left a false pagan religion. I became a Christian two decades ago, and l love Jesus. I am save by the blood of Christ and l know how much he loves me. I don’t care that my family has rejected me, as l know that only Jesus can save me, and the love l feel from God.
@SantiagoRodriguez-tz5xh
@SantiagoRodriguez-tz5xh 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad that you left. This is finally the first time I see a female testimony that was a muslim but then converted to Christianity and Im glad for you. Because you left a male-supremacist system that oppresses Women.
@jayjay-hm4ns
@jayjay-hm4ns 5 ай бұрын
Im sad that happened with your family, but im glad Jesus touched your heart and blessed you. “Let not your heart be troubled” Jesus is with you and all of us
@misszuleika
@misszuleika 5 ай бұрын
May Allah swt guide you back to the truth. La ilaha illallah! There is only one God. That’s the one true God that Jesus prayed to
@SantiagoRodriguez-tz5xh
@SantiagoRodriguez-tz5xh 5 ай бұрын
@@misszuleika Jesus never worshipped anything, he just prayed to the father for our sins and taught us how to pray to Jesus. u need Jesus bro.
@kipropering
@kipropering 5 ай бұрын
@@misszuleika😂😂
@RC______
@RC______ 7 ай бұрын
One of The hardest things in life is to accept that what you believe or was taught your whole life was wrong or a lie.
@blackseed9293
@blackseed9293 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. That's why I left Christianity. Lol. See how that works...
@rt_huxley9205
@rt_huxley9205 7 ай бұрын
Yep. That's why I became a protestant.
@mikeholmed7029
@mikeholmed7029 7 ай бұрын
​@@blackseed9293l think he may mean all religions.
@RC______
@RC______ 7 ай бұрын
@@mikeholmed7029 any religion, or how your parents raised you. I’ve literally seen ppl have to accept at 30 years old that their parents are or were ignorant when they was growing up and unfortunately society had to show them that.
@markcoleman7246
@markcoleman7246 7 ай бұрын
Yup, like liberals or democrats. That's why I became a Republican.
@gilluap
@gilluap 23 күн бұрын
they way they try to ask questions with intent of attacking no matter the answer and then not letting them answer with context to his question while repeating his question impatiently goes to show how little communication skills he has or rather how much more these brother have to grow and learn to comprehend layered convos, that or its just str8 mind games
@raymunroe639
@raymunroe639 Ай бұрын
The passage he read did not say that the convert should be put to death. The one trying to convert the jew was the one to whom the reading refers.
@jephhirata3744
@jephhirata3744 5 ай бұрын
When someone leaves or denounced Christianity, you'll never be killed by another Christian...
@ninja3687
@ninja3687 5 ай бұрын
In fact, we'd probably give you a hug and pray you come back.
@oh4093
@oh4093 5 ай бұрын
actually, althought that might be true now, during the old testement which was commanded by the same (God), it was commanded that who ever leaves their religion is to be killed. Yes, the same thing you guys are crying about is quite literally in the bible, but worse. ironic isn't it? as iff christans cant be honest to their faith. i recommed you wathc the full video, the christans got put on show.
@zerocrutch
@zerocrutch 5 ай бұрын
Thanksgiving might be weird. But you’ll be there.
@thepublicpotato3887
@thepublicpotato3887 5 ай бұрын
bro apostasy killing rule is in every abrahamic religion not just islam but christainity and judaism to unlike u guys their at least honest about it Deuteronomy 13:6-9 If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife [a]you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9 But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
@geo_ad04
@geo_ad04 5 ай бұрын
@@thepublicpotato3887 Have you looked at the context in this verse? Here Moses warns the people against listening to a close relative or a dear friend who may entice them secretly to serve other gods. He then commanded that the tempter must be put to death. This needed to be done to ensure that such a wicked act is not repeated among the Israelite community. Remind you all of the isrealite comunity were at the time Gods chosen people so they knew of his existence yet still worshiped other "Gods". Also by christian standards Moses is not the most important figure in the bible because in christian perspective every human did some sort of evil doings. except Jesus Christ of Nazareth. So When you look see that verse Moses isn't speaking in general for all people. Only to the isrealites. Which indeed was wrong. Just goes to show how much evildoing humans can commit. This is why we need Jesus. He is our perfect example of a pure good human. I hope you understood
@richlove8375
@richlove8375 6 ай бұрын
Bruh this convo was deep; so happy I am Christian and live in a Christian country.
@PepTalkTillYouDrop
@PepTalkTillYouDrop 6 ай бұрын
These arteists need to watch this video to see the true enemy. You're lucky you're in a liberal country that allows you to think how you want. Muslims...
@PepTalkTillYouDrop
@PepTalkTillYouDrop 6 ай бұрын
These atheists need to watch this video to see the true enemy. You're lucky you're in a liberal country that allows you to think how you want. Muslims...
@SWISSMUSICFC
@SWISSMUSICFC 6 ай бұрын
True and what country do you live in?
@ajaykatoch9601
@ajaykatoch9601 6 ай бұрын
Soon U will be ruled by Islamist
@adamwehib7191
@adamwehib7191 6 ай бұрын
What country? Cause the US is def not a Christian country lol
@ehmry984
@ehmry984 Ай бұрын
Surah al-Kahf 29. And say, “The truth is from your Lord. Whoever wills-let him believe. And whoever wills-let him disbelieve”.
@TheGodFahader
@TheGodFahader 28 күн бұрын
Another verse that was later abrogated by another verse. Do you know about this?
@ehmry984
@ehmry984 25 күн бұрын
@@TheGodFahader which one ?
@user-zc3cu1hd3p
@user-zc3cu1hd3p 21 күн бұрын
@@ehmry984 You quoted half of the Ayah either you quote it all or not at all, Quran Surah AL KAHF 18 Ayah 29: And say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “˹This is˺ the truth from your Lord. Whoever wills let them believe, and whoever wills let them disbelieve.” Surely We have prepared for the wrongdoers a Fire whose walls will ˹completely˺ surround them. When they cry for aid, they will be aided with water like molten metal, which will burn ˹their˺ faces. What a horrible drink! And what a terrible place to rest!
@iamanonymous7244
@iamanonymous7244 12 күн бұрын
Then why there is a comand for apostate for killing.
@user-zc3cu1hd3p
@user-zc3cu1hd3p 12 күн бұрын
@@iamanonymous7244 Thats a question for christians i suppose
@alfiansembiring7666
@alfiansembiring7666 3 күн бұрын
honestly, put aside the religions, these 5 men were really great, they debated in a high level intelligence and calmness....salute!!
@shaylarodriguez4003
@shaylarodriguez4003 6 ай бұрын
There is no double standard. The reason Islam is criticized is because people are currently and actively committing atrocities on humanity today!
@Jin-dc7gl
@Jin-dc7gl 6 ай бұрын
Very often these atrocities are committed with the connivance of the Islamic countries. Pakistan is a glaring example.
@YourTruthIsALie
@YourTruthIsALie 6 ай бұрын
Ohhh but the Israeli.jews aren't?? And haven't been for the last 100 years??
@YourTruthIsALie
@YourTruthIsALie 6 ай бұрын
I wish you would hold Christian countries like UK accountability when they give away land that's not theirs to give, or when America lies about weapons of mass destruction just so they can collapse a society. The irony
@robvegart
@robvegart 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Akil-
@Akil- 6 ай бұрын
And Christians aren't?
@ronniepace8778
@ronniepace8778 6 ай бұрын
It seems to me (as a novice) the Muslim gentleman doesn’t seem to understand that the Old Testament was a precursor to complete forgiveness through the blood of the Christ.
@cunctator3401
@cunctator3401 6 ай бұрын
So Moses went on to murder babies on his own according to you?No God involved?
@MoeBeenHooping
@MoeBeenHooping 6 ай бұрын
Aka bs💩😭
@augustusplays7896
@augustusplays7896 6 ай бұрын
Seems you don’t understand that Muslims are killed every day in the name of freedom lol
@sarahjoysavtryphine256
@sarahjoysavtryphine256 6 ай бұрын
Very true 😂😂😂
@JMM440xi
@JMM440xi 6 ай бұрын
The Old Testament makes up approximately 65 to 70 percent on the Christian Bible. Most Christian teachers of it do not cover the authority to take the lives of others under the Old Testament concerning apostates. They will teach how Jesus came to give eternal life by teaching love for God ( and accepting His son as savior)and man ( your neighbor). Jesus established the New Covenant by fulfilling the laws of the Old Testament and Old Testament (OT)prophesy.This was done by becoming incarnate, performing miracles described in OT prophesy , being sacrificed on the cross to forgive mankind’s sin, then being resurrected. Belief in Him, these 2 new commands he preached and His biblical teachings which include the beatitudes were to direct mankind to righteousness, salvation and eternal life after earthly death. From what I have learned Judaism and Islam do not accept Jesus as a savior to man. Islam accepts Him as a prophet. I believe, but I am not totally sure of His status in Judaism. I have heard different opinions from different folks who followed the faith. This discussion centers mostly about writings in the OT, much of which in Judaism is the Pentateuch, which are basically Mosaic law and writing of the prophets. There are other elements of the OT, but I will leave that to the rabbis and theologians. Interestingly this conversation comes at the right time. There are many faiths on earth. These three faiths have had significant impact on worldly events and spiritual offerings. Interesting, the father of each faith is Abraham. These are considered Abrahamic faiths by many, Each faiths ancient elements include the Pentateuch as much of its moral code and law. The Christian Bible also includes the New Testament which centers around the life of Jesus , His mission on earth, His works and His apostles etc. Islam has Mohammed and his life and teachings along with updating writings and its Imam. I believe all three have Eschatology prophecy (end times)teachings which have differences. This discussion is a good one to have to many can understand the secular and spiritual aspects of each faith and how they affect daily lives and emotions. Please continue these discussions. Thanks to all willing to discuss the issues presented during the debate.
@alinasimon6399
@alinasimon6399 14 күн бұрын
Ya Allah. Perkenankan lah permintaan semua insan2 di seluruh alam ini.
@pa7235
@pa7235 Ай бұрын
Why do muslim presistently ignore the very existence of the new testament and always refer to the old testament when debating christians?
@nunya54
@nunya54 29 күн бұрын
Because Christians claim to believe in the Old Testament and say it's from God. So when they criticize Islam for the same laws found in the Old Testament, they're criticizing their God and being hypocritical. They're confused though and there's always been a classical and embarrassing rejection of the Old Testament and it's too difficult to reconcile God of the OT being Jesus in the NT.
@pa7235
@pa7235 29 күн бұрын
@@nunya54 One big difference though is that catholics believe the bible to be inspired by God, but not written by god himself. Moreover Catholics consider the old testament to be concealing the truth of the new testament, and that the new testament had to be revealed to understand the old testament. Lastly I don't think there is one catholic trend in all it's history that aimed at applying the laws in the Leviticus. that's just silly. (I speak about catholics bc there's an infinity of strangge protestant sects and I don't know orthodoxy)
@benjaminreyes3624
@benjaminreyes3624 18 күн бұрын
@@nunya54Christian’s don’t believe in the old testament. It’s more so a history lesson. It shows people of what could have happened to them if Jesus never died on the cross for their sins.
@nunya54
@nunya54 15 күн бұрын
​@@benjaminreyes3624 Is the Torah a history book written by the scribes or is it the word of God? Is it true or not? Is it from God or not?
@benjaminreyes3624
@benjaminreyes3624 15 күн бұрын
@@nunya54 because you don’t believe Jesus died on the cross for you sins. It’s a book you’ll have to follow. For those of us who sins are saved by grace. It doesn’t apply
@jasondelangie1687
@jasondelangie1687 6 ай бұрын
I can't believe they didn't kick those guys out of the building after literally saying a member of the panel should be killed. No excuse for that.
@Im-not-alone-Im-full-of-myself
@Im-not-alone-Im-full-of-myself 6 ай бұрын
They will say '' its what islam teaches, so its not their fault ''
@Belovelyava
@Belovelyava 6 ай бұрын
It’s very eye opening to know that friendly neighbor may just be waiting to take you out….
@sofronije74
@sofronije74 6 ай бұрын
​@Belovelyava You forgot the quotation on "friendly ".
@jb2760
@jb2760 6 ай бұрын
@@Belovelyavatheir religion teaches them to lie in sake of themselves and Allah. Pure Satan worshippers.
@rocketgolf3959
@rocketgolf3959 6 ай бұрын
If their so willing to self expose their violent positions I suppose they should be given a megaphone.
@beyourbest2824
@beyourbest2824 6 ай бұрын
Poor guy feels threatened when he talks about killing everyone that doesn’t think like he does… what a crazy world we live in
@han1218
@han1218 6 ай бұрын
He’s got a target on his back, if he ever travels to a Muslim country or has some Muslim in the West go after him.
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 6 ай бұрын
This guy is proof Islam is dangerous. He's openly calling for the execution of someone who left his religion.
@RealityHurts923
@RealityHurts923 6 ай бұрын
That actually sounds exactly like Trump worshipping fake Christians.
@cinefile0075
@cinefile0075 6 ай бұрын
​@@WaryOfExtremesOriginalin Nigeria Pakistan it happens every month. Recently Nigerian Christian girl was killed by Muslim mob coz they think she disrespected pedophile Mohammed. Many translator of satanic verses book killed stabbed attacked by Muslims all over the world. Islam is dangerous political ideology and dangerous cult parading as a religion
@arontesfay2520
@arontesfay2520 6 ай бұрын
I doubt he has an ounce of self-awareness.
@StevenTanWilddiscus
@StevenTanWilddiscus 25 күн бұрын
Both side arguments straight to the point, 1) can anyone leave the religion freely? 2) can any religion bad practice can be take down from your book? Arguing for so long no answer, bcoz answer in everyone heart.
@damikasim1576
@damikasim1576 24 күн бұрын
I left religion ages ago, I’m more of a believer of Christ than anything else.
@nisemono8058
@nisemono8058 4 күн бұрын
And why there so many people today convert islam ? It's not the eyes is blind but the heart is
@juststuff01
@juststuff01 6 ай бұрын
"I am in danger because I want non-believers to be murdered". - Daniel, the good Muslim
@shadowstorm5261
@shadowstorm5261 6 ай бұрын
The Christians in the video reject their own scripture and its rulings while claiming to be Christians. this is called apostasy in Christianity. How can they sit there and deny the words of God and say they have come with something better than it and say that his rulings are outdated/not needed.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 6 ай бұрын
@@shadowstorm5261 that's largely old testament, jesus came down you idiot. What did he say to the women who comitted adultery? He said do not stone her, SPARE her. Jesus does not believe in such punishments, and he is him. That was revolutionary at the time and in fact when he said that the jewish leaders(pharises) at the time were appalled and questioned jesus. Islam is a joke, unlike the bible, it allows for child marriage at the age of 6. and sex at the age of 9 or 10. That's sick, and muslims by and large believe this too and praise Muhammed for marrying aisha at age 6 and penetrating her at age 9.
@Reub3
@Reub3 6 ай бұрын
@@shadowstorm5261 It's called freedom. You should try it. Feels good and be able to live a peaceful life without someone wanting to kill you cause you don't agree with them.
@mizztury
@mizztury 6 ай бұрын
Your referring Judaism not Chirstianity brother. Don't get them confused.
@mamacat63
@mamacat63 6 ай бұрын
​@shadowstorm5261 when Jesus came, He said the old will pass away, meaning the old testament and He replaced it with the New Testament....thus, the Christians in this video were not going against the Bible
@Vertfil2
@Vertfil2 6 ай бұрын
Never was I happier to be a Christian
@enigma0876
@enigma0876 6 ай бұрын
And it is sad some Christians have taken it for granted.
@mikeyounes2756
@mikeyounes2756 6 ай бұрын
Happy to be an idol worshipping polytheist (Christian) 😂
@JacintaRebello-jm9gm
@JacintaRebello-jm9gm 6 ай бұрын
​@@mikeyounes2756far better than following someone with blood on their hands. And hatred in their speech.
@mikeyounes2756
@mikeyounes2756 6 ай бұрын
@@JacintaRebello-jm9gm at least you're an honest idol worshipping polytheist (Christian) btw here's a challenge for you we have the Quran and we have the Bible I can show in the Bible where it says death to apostates and death to anyone who doesn't worship the God of Israel can you show me in the (Quran) where is says death to apostates or death to anyone who doesn't worship Allah??? I'll help you out nowhere in the Quran does it say that.
@Dmachado_19
@Dmachado_19 6 ай бұрын
@@mikeyounes2756you are talking about the trinity. You have to be a really not intelligent person to not understand the trinity. Trinity: one Godhead, three people: the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. As simple as that brother, we have one God, the Shaddai, Elohim, YHWH. Islam has one Fake God, which is Allah, Repent and believe the Gospel love you brother ❤️
@jazprince4287
@jazprince4287 17 күн бұрын
What does liberal secularism have to do with the Christianity vs islam ? 🤔
@henryhill7751
@henryhill7751 4 күн бұрын
Although I don’t fully agree with the religion thanks for getting these guys together! A lot of good points and arguments were made
@admashburn2543
@admashburn2543 6 ай бұрын
Brother casually admits he would kill a man for changing religions and then plays the victim because his religion is targeted with violence… Bananas.
@floatingtigerscarriff6664
@floatingtigerscarriff6664 6 ай бұрын
LOL! Statistically, Christians were the most persecuted religious people in history... Muslims playing the victim card is hilarious...
@precious7902
@precious7902 6 ай бұрын
Very Ridiculous!!!, he didn't even answer the question of Muslim becoming the majority in USA...
@joshuak8982
@joshuak8982 6 ай бұрын
just what happens when humans try creating their own religion of relationship, there’s always holes and questions. With God He’s always right.
@Thekomokoro
@Thekomokoro 6 ай бұрын
That's what Islam calls Taqiyya. It permits deceit and plays victim. Thats why the radical left is in bed with Islam because victimhood mentality is one of their core techniques.
@concernedcitizen3254
@concernedcitizen3254 6 ай бұрын
Makes Scientology look kind of cuddly doesn't it.
@mikeschwaller6555
@mikeschwaller6555 7 ай бұрын
I'm a christian and i've never seen this topic of conversation remain this civil. Great job by the guests and PBD you did an awesome job moderating.
@facts8913
@facts8913 7 ай бұрын
👉❤to all Muslim out Please and ❤Christians out there Please this 👉👉Jesus is very clear about the law he came to fulfill all the law and to accomplished and the law will pass after Jesus fulfill it Jesus fulfill all the law on behalf of all of us so we are not under law but grace (Romans 6:14) 👉read Matthew 5:17-20 Christ Came to Fulfill the Law17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away,thisc an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished 👉👉Romans 6:14For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!
@Abqariyyah100
@Abqariyyah100 7 ай бұрын
“Certainly! Matthew 5:17-18 is a passage from the New Testament, specifically from the Gospel of Matthew. Here is the text of those verses (ESV): "17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished." In these verses, Jesus is speaking, and He emphasizes that He did not come to abolish the Law (which includes the Old Testament laws and teachings) but to fulfill them. He goes on to say that not even the smallest part of the Law will pass away until all is accomplished. This indicates the continuity between the Old Testament (the Law and the Prophets) and Jesus' mission as the fulfillment of that divine plan.” ------ “Samuel 15:2-3 (NIV): “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” These verses are part of a passage where God commands King Saul to punish the Amalekite people, including both humans and animals, for their actions against the Israelites” --- Deuteronomy 13:6-10 (NIV): “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods’ (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.”
@jllj9231
@jllj9231 7 ай бұрын
U cud at least help them know what the Holy Spirit is saying. There is absolutely NOWHERE in the Christian bible that rules out due process where death is the penalty. 2-3 witnesses r required. The Holy Spirit always makes the different. Do u know Him?
@oldmedstudent1750
@oldmedstudent1750 7 ай бұрын
civil? Those two Jihadi's literally said they want the guy who converted away from Islam to be put to death. Thats not civil
@upfront2375
@upfront2375 7 ай бұрын
@@jllj9231 As an ex Muslim I have to say that Quran needs a very serious overhaul... it's a book a terrifying book like old Tora and Bible used to be, it needs censorship ASAP! but it will NEVER happen since UK-US and their other allies capitalize on the trrst potential of Islam to have military presence in many regions. I have a theory that the british empire is responsible for keep Muslims conservative just in case.
@faustinaandrews9036
@faustinaandrews9036 28 күн бұрын
We walk by faith not by sight!
@P01s0n_1Vee
@P01s0n_1Vee 26 күн бұрын
I think there’s a difference between advocating for slavery and documenting that happened. It’s a historical text. There’s many times in the Old Testament it specifically states that selling people is wrong.
@Savageking23
@Savageking23 9 күн бұрын
No, the Old Testament is in favour of slavery, there is no where it states it is wrong unless it happens to the Israelites. Then it is wrong because it happened to "god's chosen people". Also no, the bible is not a historical text, and no other holy book is
@mimisweet3223
@mimisweet3223 Ай бұрын
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you” (Matthew 5:43-44)
@radwansaad4334
@radwansaad4334 Ай бұрын
Timothy 2:12
@amyassyassin7909
@amyassyassin7909 Ай бұрын
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).
@hamzasaleem2550
@hamzasaleem2550 Ай бұрын
Follow the religion and dont use it like a Google quotation to justify your comments. Follow completely or say you dont follow Christianity
@Jose_Jalapeno
@Jose_Jalapeno Ай бұрын
​@@amyassyassin7909 Jesus is not describing the sword of God's judgment, nor one of military action, or of personal violence. The item Jesus refers to here is the Greek term machairan, most often used for large knives such as those used by fisherman. The main purpose of those blades was to separate different parts of a cut of meat-this is the same term used in the book of Hebrews to depict Scripture's ability to separate truth and error (Hebrews 4:12). In other words, Jesus' message will naturally create division; this "sword" will divide the world into those who believe in Him and those who do not. His arrival will bring great conflict as those who reject Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God will turn in hatred against those who hear and believe (1 Peter 4:3-4; John 15:18-21), including the members of one's own family. ‭1 Corinthians 2:15-16 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
@missruzl14
@missruzl14 Ай бұрын
@@amyassyassin7909 lol do you understand this verse??
@shlomtzi84
@shlomtzi84 5 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as islamophobia, Phobia is an irrational fear of something
@Nik-xi2ri
@Nik-xi2ri 5 ай бұрын
Poor Israeli people 😢 they've been trying to tell the world for almost a century. I lost all my sympathy for PALESTINE Oct. 7
@JakkWagon
@JakkWagon 5 ай бұрын
well I'm afraid of getting blown up by someone who never met me because im white and don't dress like a stone age caveman or i have gf/wife/ sister who isnt covered in clothes 😮
@CAROLZ101101
@CAROLZ101101 5 ай бұрын
10000000% correct
@sydneyroosters7181
@sydneyroosters7181 5 ай бұрын
There's nothing irrational about fearing a fascist hateful religion.
@bfja525
@bfja525 5 ай бұрын
Your hate can't overpower God's will.
@menah03
@menah03 Ай бұрын
5:38 speaks on the old testiment law. New testiment detest the old by Christ and redefined. The New testiment is added to the old as well all violence is detest by christ
@mikeyhalliday
@mikeyhalliday Ай бұрын
They never answer the question. But I appreciate the civility
@chrisf4268
@chrisf4268 6 ай бұрын
To even need to argue about the morality of murdering someone for changing their mind is just insane.
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 6 ай бұрын
It's not insane because all morality is taught. Empathy and morality are not the same; when you are young you only have empathy but as you grow up you need to be taught morality, which supercedes your empathy, or else you will never have it or you will develop it by your own philosophies. The Christian ethic from which the American concept of human rights comes from is unique to the Christian worldview, it's not the default innate morality of mankind and in fact most of the modern American youth have no understanding of it and are being taught an oppressor/oppressed-based morality wherein the lease privileged is always the morally superior.
@Alientcp
@Alientcp 5 ай бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 But you are mistaken, because Morality is derived from somewhere depending on your way of thinking. So, if you, as a christian lets say, say you are a moral entity, your morals come from god, which is itself an amoral entity, and in that mindset, morality is a dictate from authority. But if you are an atheist, your morals dont come from there, the base of it was inherited from social behavior on apes and other mammals, we complemented them and enhanced them, putting emphasis on social and individual well being. So, if your religion says it is moral to kill some one for say, adultery, I would say that adultery is immoral by itself, because it disrupts both social and individual well being, but killing some one for it is even more immoral for the same reasons. The moral compasses are entirely different.
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 5 ай бұрын
@@Alientcp Sorry to say you're not demonstrating any understanding at all. If you are a Christian your morals come from being raised up and educated by other Christians. They may be trying to interpret the concept of morality through an understanding of the nature of God from writings in scripture but they are not being given morality directly from God. And it's never a dictate from authority for anyone because every person has the choice to disobey any authority at any time; they weigh the consequences. The morality that comes directly from God is empathy and conscience and everyone has these whether Christian or not. If you are an atheist you are taught your set of morals by the people you study and admire, same as Christians but they are atheists. Morality is not inherited it is taught, so any atheist saying they inherited morality from the social behavior of apes probably has no concept of morality. An atheist who says some behavior is immoral but the punishment for it is also immoral can't really claim to know anything about social well-being. If you don't defend morality from violation then you don't support it and your society will self-destruct it will not have greater well-being.
@alfredfouquet
@alfredfouquet 5 ай бұрын
We were put on earth by God to learn, not to repeat the same behavior again, and again. By doing that we would have stayed up on the trees. It´s time for Islam to move forward, to learn to respect the free election of people.@@gorkyd7912
@udmahraj4076
@udmahraj4076 5 ай бұрын
Islamist never understand that they follow a disgusting medeval ideology
@londekahlongwane1503
@londekahlongwane1503 2 ай бұрын
The difference between the attitudes of the Christians and Islams panelists is astounding. In itself it truly depicts the difference betweeen Christians and Muslims.
@bradleybrunner5698
@bradleybrunner5698 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, they pitted academics against extremists.
@rafaelsuarez5758
@rafaelsuarez5758 2 ай бұрын
And the crazy thing is that you don't have to be a scholar to see it. It is as plain as day.
@Mrpuncherr
@Mrpuncherr Ай бұрын
@@bradleybrunner5698these men are salafis dont try and excuse them you wahabbis and salafis are nothing but cavemen
@XxMusclecarsxX
@XxMusclecarsxX Ай бұрын
judge a tree by the fruit it bears
@djbeggan1
@djbeggan1 Ай бұрын
That's just not true. Both of the angry Muslim men are well educated they just choose to be intolerant and see others as the problem
@yourishasoobaran8272
@yourishasoobaran8272 Ай бұрын
What I gather from this is that both these religions have loopholes or things that do not seem perfect in them, as other religions also may have and as people, we should acknowledge these things instead of masking them.
@OneJoseph87
@OneJoseph87 Ай бұрын
Whew!an exchanges of ideas is great with the presentation of evidences is solid…let the people choose their path without threat to death…only true freedom is found in God alone.🤓
@JoneThePwn
@JoneThePwn 6 ай бұрын
He changed the subject as soon as the former muslim turned Christian laid down the simple plain truth.
@Enormoussaa
@Enormoussaa 6 ай бұрын
Which part?
@MrMore2life
@MrMore2life 6 ай бұрын
@@Enormoussaa I think it was about if US became majority Islamic. Daniel switched it to himself being threatened.
@Anonymous-sb9uh
@Anonymous-sb9uh 6 ай бұрын
This is a standard tactic of someone who is cornered. Either admit you are wrong or jump far away to a new spot.
@Avacado147
@Avacado147 5 ай бұрын
I’m so thankful that I was born in a Christian family, and in the United States. Don’t take it for granted. Imagine being born in an Islamic country where you will be killed for leaving Islam. Don’t take your freedom for granted.
@JakkWagon
@JakkWagon 5 ай бұрын
Amen praise God
@howardmonument6093
@howardmonument6093 5 ай бұрын
If the USA becomes majority Muslim... 'God' help the world 😢 I think you're right, it makes me sad/angry looking at many of the American youth of today that don't know how lucky they are being American with religious freedom... I mean all countries have flaws but a Christian raised USA has contributed lots of good to the world!
@tigrulbland9227
@tigrulbland9227 5 ай бұрын
Please then pray for our brothers and sisters in muslims countries and don't forget about yourself.
@KINGandWINNER
@KINGandWINNER 5 ай бұрын
mohammed was the messenger of Hubal(lah) also know as allah and huballah. Mohammed message was the everyone should bow down and worhsip the Kabaa temple and moon rock in the kabaa that belong to huballah the pagan god. That huballah had talked to mohammed to in a dream telling mohammed he was the one true god not Jesus. The Kabaa was a small temple that had various pagan god statues and Huballah was the top pagan god, the name hubal mean god of gods and allah means king of gods. Even back than Huballah was considered the top true god of the Meccan people in Saudia Arabia and even to mohammed. Mohammeds father and granddad owned the statue of Huballah that was in the center of the Kabaa and the moon rock belonged to huballah and it was passed down to mohammed whose mission was to say that Huballah was the true god and that he mohammed was the messenger of Huballah. The moon and star the muslims use was used to represent Huballah the moon God and the black moon rock in the Kabaa the muslims fall down and worship to belonged to Huballah the moon God.
@tigrulbland9227
@tigrulbland9227 5 ай бұрын
@@KINGandWINNER Thank you very much for bringing some briefly information like this of previous faiths of the islam religion, which origins are very obscure. I remember back in 2011 I think, I was intrigued to read a book in my native language I cannot exactly remember the title, but it sounds something like: "The prophetical signs of the end of times". It must have been translated from English. It wasn't very thick, about 200 pages but the information presented in the book was quite interesting, even if I wasn't totally agree with some things. I can remember it was largely exposing in its subject the role of Vatican and its revelations at Fatima. On the other hand it was a little about the islam and its origins and the author of the book criticized it by saying that muslims must ask themselves if they are honest, how islam worship the true God, if Mecca and Medina was built on the ruins of previous notorious, most important pagan temples of that times? And it was mentioned in the book the name of that previous pagan temples but I cannot remember. If you consider you can help me somehow to remember, you're wellcomed.
@duboiii6393
@duboiii6393 21 күн бұрын
I love these kinds of debates. It's funny because it's like two people defending their two different constitutions, which were made in old times.
@aliciacureton4679
@aliciacureton4679 6 күн бұрын
Bless you in your heart so big! I’m feeling like you described but I’m amazed to be learning this all. I’m seeing ones like you, choosing Jesus. He’s chosen us too. All with his Love for His creation.. ❤
@Happyending619
@Happyending619 6 ай бұрын
I am from Nigeria. People flee from Northern Nigeria to Southern Nigeria to escape the death penalty. The barbarism in Islam is something else
@anon2034
@anon2034 6 ай бұрын
Do you think that the country will fracture in two parts?
@ulehgodstimedabest2174
@ulehgodstimedabest2174 6 ай бұрын
@@anon2034 i don't see that happening.. Nigeria is way too diverse...
@anon2034
@anon2034 6 ай бұрын
@@ulehgodstimedabest2174 I mean something like The Biafra War for example but today.
@prestinnguyen9329
@prestinnguyen9329 6 ай бұрын
i don't think it will happen. am from Nigeria and a Biafran @@ulehgodstimedabest2174
@Seany06
@Seany06 6 ай бұрын
@@anurishmodak941 Hopefully not, Islam needs to recede
@seanwalsh1159
@seanwalsh1159 6 ай бұрын
God bless that man who converted to Christianity ❤ He exposed to whole islam problem
@ninaballerina2807
@ninaballerina2807 6 ай бұрын
No, not so fast! These pseudo-Christians are doing what they are known to do - betraying Christ with their lies! Noticed how the panel comprises of Muslims only - whether ex or y? And notice, how the conclusion was drawn in collective agreement and undeniably taking on the hue of political nature and with a common enemy apparently?!! Draw your own conclusions from here on...and for Heaven's sake, Christians STOP trusting Muslims at all. Read the following and understand better: 1. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend that which Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated - both in Word & Deed? 2. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend Mosaic laws when Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated it by replacing it with Grace, Truth and surpassing Righteousness of God which was since the very beginning, even before mankind were created? To which, all genuinely faithful servants or prophets of God pointed to, constantly reminding the peoples to retrace their steps back to the crossroads, where the Gospel (God-spelt) and Manspel (man-spelt) diverge, that they may seek out the Ancient Path which leads to Righteousness & Life. 3. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend the wolves who masquerade as sheep in their midst? It isn't as if Christ hadn't been faithful to forewarn the world of them? 4. Why do these Christians on the other hand FAIL TO feel obliged to show how Moses had ended up lifting up & upholding the Serpent (symbolic allusion to the Devil) instead of God, and how he had replaced the Power of God's Word with his own rebellious spirit of aggression - thus forfeiting his Calling & Election to lead the people into Canaan? Thus also exposing how Islam follows the same path of rebellion, even upholding Satan as 'God', as was espoused by not just Moses but going all the way back to their so-called 'first prophet' Adam who is in fact the one to set the ball rolling by CHOOSING DEATH OVER LIFE IN SPITE OF FAITHFUL FOREWARNINGS FROM GOD. 5. Lastly, and most importantly, why do these Christians FAIL TO feel obliged to make it known loud & clear that God has clearly not entrusted Judgement to man, that it is NOT PERMITTED to men to take God's Judgement in their own hands? The coming Judgement of God is a Reality waiting to take place at its Appointed Time, and Christ has clearly exhorted and taught to all who will heed Him to patiently & prayerfully wait for it. Islam is the most deplorable of all manspels, next to Catholicism. One the pretentious Satan worshiper, conveniently forgetting Satan is also but ONE. The other openly profaning the holy Name of God by taking His Name in vain and adding the Same in a vain bid to validate themselves, even as they add It to their collection of pagan deities comprising of mortal men & women, going as far as to relegate the Lord as a mere man like them to justify their exaltation of them on par with Him.
@tommybond8630
@tommybond8630 5 ай бұрын
Congrats, for every Muslim who converted to Christianity, 1000 Christians convert to Islam 😂 I think that is pretty good exchange rate for Muslims 😂😂😂
@ninaballerina2807
@ninaballerina2807 5 ай бұрын
@@tommybond8630 Only a son of the Devil like you will laugh about the Deception and Destruction of yourself and the rest of you.
@torkilddenhje20
@torkilddenhje20 5 ай бұрын
@@tommybond8630hahaha u mean force to convert to Islam or misguided and after a short time they leave with a huge sigh of relief
@xoxo_9389
@xoxo_9389 5 ай бұрын
@@tommybond8630lol you don’t convert that many people Muslims have always been dishonest. It is what they teach you in the Quran, that you can lie to achieve your goals… it’s called Taqiya. Imagine your holy book teaching you that it’s okay to lie to get what you want. That’s why Muslims are dishonest! Taqiya : concealment of one's thoughts, feelings, or character; pretence for a religious goal … in this case conversion.
@JravenCruz-mz2us
@JravenCruz-mz2us 29 күн бұрын
Imagine being scared of being killed for what your heart & soul truly seeks ..
@joshd3502
@joshd3502 5 ай бұрын
Without the death penalty for leaving Islam it would have faded away long ago.
@sleepingrogue4130
@sleepingrogue4130 5 ай бұрын
As it rightfully should.
@jerinjoseph7420
@jerinjoseph7420 5 ай бұрын
In the Quran and The Bible it's clear that Jesus is in heaven. But when it comes to Mohammed it's unknown what happened to him after death. So if he is in hell whoever believes him and his religion are going to hell...right. Think Muslims...
@danielbarry5547
@danielbarry5547 5 ай бұрын
Islam and Christianity are damn near cousins they both say the same thing
@jerinjoseph7420
@jerinjoseph7420 5 ай бұрын
@@danielbarry5547 In the Quran, Jesus is taken to heaven, but no record says mohammd is in heaven, not even the Quran. There are 26 different arabic versions of quran( u can google it), which one is real? Mohammd has disobeyed all commandments of God, which means he disobeyed God himself. Mohammd has killed, raped, did child marriage, married his sons wife, owned sex slaves and so on. Mohammd drastically died from poison, a very normal human. Even God didn't warn him and mohammd can't predict. Jesus never did any sin. Like Jesus said he is next to his father in Heaven.
@maxinedeleon4357
@maxinedeleon4357 5 ай бұрын
​@@danielbarry5547, No they don't say the same thing at all. Infact, Islam says the opposite of Christianity. Plus, Islam fundamentally and vehemently denies the Incarnation, the Trinity, the Crucifixion and Resurrection, which sets the bench mark for Christianity. So, how are they the same thing? Islam hasn't got a problem with child brides, chopping people limbs off in the opposite direction if anyone steals anything, slavery, taken another man's wife etc etc, Christianity opposes such practices. How are they saying the same thing? Islam has apostasy laws where if someone leaves Islam, under Shariah Law, they would be put to death, there is also the killing of homosexuals etc. Christianity opposes such practice. How are the saying the samething? If a woman has affairs outside her marriage (which she often doesn't bc her husband wanted to get rid of her), she would be put to death by stoning. When a large group of men wanted to stone Mary Magdaline, Jesus stepped in and stopped it by telling them those without sin cast the first stone. Jesus then told her to go and sin no more. How are they the same? There are so many examples, but I've given you a few why they're not the same as they're in direct opposition to one another! Islam took the Torah aka Old Testament and the New Testament and between Muhammad and Allah they both butchered and twisted the characters and themes of the bible that its almost become unrecognisable. That's called plagiarism and theft. As I said at the top, they're not at all the same.
@njain1985
@njain1985 6 ай бұрын
When I was uni in Malaysia, there were a few Pakistani students at my cafeteria seated at the table directly behind. They were talking about non-Muslim nations and how people of those nations are vile and they deserve bad treatment. I turned around and said to them “is that what you think of me”. They all went quiet and eventually one of them responded “yes, that’s what we have believe firmly”. I was gobsmacked.
@SirMevan
@SirMevan 6 ай бұрын
We invited this evil into the west and its only gonna keep growing until some sort of tipping point when Europe realizes "Oh shit, these people ALL want to rule us", and by that point most likely the US is gonna have to go in to clean up Europe's mess a third time.
@architbhagat
@architbhagat 6 ай бұрын
It's not their fault tbh. It's the narrative that has got them. They must have grown listening to this narrative again and again. And now that they aren't in Pakistan, they probably live with/around people who share the same belief as them. That's why it is so important to spend time with people who aren't from the same background as you. You learn a lot that way. It changes your perception of the world. Hopefully these guys learn this someday. Or else they will end up teaching the same narrative to their children and they'll grow up to become the same as their fathers.
@njain1985
@njain1985 6 ай бұрын
@@architbhagat- well said! Agree 100%
@DIRECTEDBYH
@DIRECTEDBYH 6 ай бұрын
in our (western) countries, we don't do shit that the porn industrie controls the teens and all the people, we don't do shit that the media, the music brainwashes our kids to be hedonistic animals. We brainwash whole society to think of us "liberal and free" and better than all the people who still live in villages in africa or middle east. And you think they are bad for thinking our countries deserve bad?
@shahshsahaha1896
@shahshsahaha1896 5 ай бұрын
be so real with yourself right now most non muslim nations specifically the west have no morals left yall literally have girls doing onlyfans
@SamuelDawit377
@SamuelDawit377 15 күн бұрын
It’s not double standard!! it’s not the Christian or Jewish that beheaded people in our life time and do so much violence. That’s why ppl bring up that more when talking about Islam because it’s known by its sword that a peaceful message
@alejandrafernandez6763
@alejandrafernandez6763 4 ай бұрын
When Christians have people leave the faith, we start praying harder for them. ❤
@nunya54
@nunya54 4 ай бұрын
Because Christians don't follow Jesus who followed laws of killing apostates.
@Al_Farsi_
@Al_Farsi_ 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 better pray for ur self
@alejandrafernandez6763
@alejandrafernandez6763 4 ай бұрын
@@Al_Farsi_ I do pray for myself, thanks. Just like I pray for others.
@alymohammed681
@alymohammed681 3 ай бұрын
no you dont, you dont even notice or pray, u keep eating bacon the next morning and drinking beer
@erickoavenada969
@erickoavenada969 2 ай бұрын
​@@alymohammed681Muslim Detected⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️hide all 9yo childs named Aisha
@FATHOLLYWOODB123
@FATHOLLYWOODB123 6 ай бұрын
As an atheist, Im so glad I live in a Christian/Western country, If I didn't I would be dead just for not group thinking.
@theodoradanielacapat298
@theodoradanielacapat298 6 ай бұрын
Amen to that. Thought the same 😂
@BigDoubleJoe
@BigDoubleJoe 6 ай бұрын
No, you are happy that you live in a christian/western country IN THE 21th century. When christianity was practiced more stricytly (unlike now) you would be stoned to death probably.
@ObsidianSpearhead
@ObsidianSpearhead 6 ай бұрын
You would have survived in East too because there are countries like China , India , Japan ,Korea , etc where being atheist isn't wrong . In fact there are hindu atheists in India
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 6 ай бұрын
​@@ObsidianSpearhead They say "western" but what they mean is liberal, not the geographic location. Japan, India and Korea are all liberal. China is different; in China you can be ended for NOT being atheist.
@monsterrun
@monsterrun 6 ай бұрын
In a world controled by a false religion you are being forced to beleive and also forced to worship. Atheist are persecuted as they proclaim it is a refuge for different beleifs. Deceivers do not want to be questioned, because questions invoke truth..and remembering the lie is compromised by tiny little slip of the tongue.
@eileenahern-ku9nx
@eileenahern-ku9nx 25 күн бұрын
I was shown a picture of me with the Iranians in a canteen. I did not want to insult them by not eating their food, and they already had the food i eat. Fried eggs, chicken and a third( just cant remember what the third was) So,they had no problem with my food choice.❤
@Colster1001
@Colster1001 17 күн бұрын
No-one should be punished for leaving or commenting on any religion, to say “well they do it” is NO defense
@nunya54
@nunya54 15 күн бұрын
Only according to people but not according to God and to be Muslim means one submits to God knowing He knows what is best and that people don't instead.
@YohennyG
@YohennyG 6 ай бұрын
They are blind! How can you believe in killing a human being just because they don’t believe or want to follow your religion. Clearly they don’t believe in love or peace! This is not even a debate, these people love death and oppression and us Christian we love life and liberty. ❤
@filippaoronto3880
@filippaoronto3880 6 ай бұрын
God bless you. But you see all the comments of the people here ? This was not a debate. Those muslims dont understand the basics of our religion.
@5555vicky
@5555vicky 6 ай бұрын
“Sa’b bin Jaththamah said: ‘The Prophet (ﷺ) was asked about the polytheists who are attacked at night, and their women and children are killed.’ He said: ‘They are from among them.’” Grade: Sahih (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 2839 In-book reference : Book 24, Hadith 87 English translation : Vol. 4, Book 24, Hadith 2839
@yashasraokuthnikar911
@yashasraokuthnikar911 6 ай бұрын
Lady u shud read the old testament or about the Christian conquests in history..u are full of hate even now for polytheist..or people who don't believe in your god..example a hindu ..😂😂😂
@RUHappyATM
@RUHappyATM 6 ай бұрын
I agree.
@thestevecbr
@thestevecbr 6 ай бұрын
because they think different. to them, being ruled by a none muslim leader (awlia) is “oppression”, and that “oppression” must be changed. they also believe that the law in none muslim countries are made by man, and not by “god”. that is why countries that have muslim minorities always create trouble. islam in other words is not compatible with democracies.
@mszuala
@mszuala 5 ай бұрын
I live in a Christian majority place,and one of my cousins decided to stop believing,but we all still love him,no hate.
@Spriktor
@Spriktor 5 ай бұрын
time to pray for that man ^^ and have some good convos when the time comes
@jennyj0007
@jennyj0007 4 ай бұрын
Yeah for real. God gaves us free will.
@ahnafsayem4991
@ahnafsayem4991 4 ай бұрын
that means you do not believe in your scriptures
@tigstabraha6476
@tigstabraha6476 4 ай бұрын
@@ahnafsayem4991no if you watch the video the Christian guy has specifically explained that the Old Testament is an old covenant and because Jesus Christ came to save us from sin by dying on the cross the New Covenant and the New Testament are the rules that are supposed to be followed. It’s pretty straightforward if you’re not looking to always argue 😂
@ahnafsayem4991
@ahnafsayem4991 4 ай бұрын
@@tigstabraha6476 with all due respect we don't have to take this guy's words as the truth. I don't think there is a verse in the new testament that tells the Christians to disregard the old testament. In fact you can find the contrary in the new testament in the following verse: The New Testament demonstrates that this ruler is Jesus, and He said, “Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose” (Matthew 5:17, NLT). I have a question. Why do you guys have so much trust in the words of paul who had been a persecutor to the early converts and then suddenly he miraculously had a "vision” that changed his life to the course of being an apostle. Firstly Paul has a failed prophecy which suggests that the then alive christians will be alive at the time of the 2nd coming of Jesus which surely did not happen. Also paul has distorted verses of the old testament to suit his own agenda. After everything how do you guys risk your afterlife on the sayings of a man whose truthfulness is a matter of doubt.
@harminderkaur8519
@harminderkaur8519 Ай бұрын
I m thankful to be born a Sikh our belief system is embedded in humanistic values.
@aliali-io5sk
@aliali-io5sk 27 күн бұрын
there is no death for converting from islam to Christianity and I am Muslim There is no such thing like this in the Quran...this is came from the wrongdoers.
@ashfaqtahmeed194
@ashfaqtahmeed194 24 күн бұрын
10:55 the double standereds here is blowing
@user-rk8sc6rl4b
@user-rk8sc6rl4b 6 ай бұрын
Its when you are won over by the love of Jesus is when you understand what true love means❤
@blixerie9317
@blixerie9317 6 ай бұрын
i call BS
@names-mars
@names-mars 6 ай бұрын
@@blixerie9317 Bloody Sensational?
@mohiruddin8207
@mohiruddin8207 6 ай бұрын
Please please just 🙏 come to Jesus come to Islam ☪️ Jesus a beloved prophet of Islam ☪️
@Enormoussaa
@Enormoussaa 6 ай бұрын
But Jesus is Muslim😅 Doesn’t he said he pray by putting his head on ground like Muslim does? Did you read Bible?😂
@vtino4825
@vtino4825 6 ай бұрын
​@@mohiruddin8207 there's no jesus in Quran, fool. only isa, that guy whom no one knows the location of his birth, when was he born, how long did he live... isa is a character made up from the imagination of Arabs to deceive people from coming to the True Messiah YESHUA
@damilolaajiboye5261
@damilolaajiboye5261 Ай бұрын
In the Northern part of Nigeria where it is mostly dominated by Muslims. Thousands of honest Christians have died due just being Christians in peace. It’s so sad to think that it was seen as a crime of being themselves and living to what they believe in.
@balsammohammed9140
@balsammohammed9140 Ай бұрын
thats very upsetting, whats even more upsetting is that these people who r representing islam. It is against the religion to kill people for simply being a different religion or have a different belief system. People like those damage the image and name of islam.
@nunya54
@nunya54 Ай бұрын
There is no law in Islam that calls for killing innocent people or Christians.
@damilolaajiboye5261
@damilolaajiboye5261 Ай бұрын
@@nunya54Yea but sadly, this is what’s happening currently in Nigeria
@jordanfortis
@jordanfortis 28 күн бұрын
@@nunya54 if they walk away from islam or disrespect islam yes there is
@rodneykaiser948
@rodneykaiser948 26 күн бұрын
@@nunya54, unfortunately Boko Haram has free reign on murdering Christians. Teenage Christian girls are continuously being kidnapped and forced into marriage to Muslim men. If they resist, they are killed. Christian children in Egypt are continuously being kidnapped by Muslims and being raised as such. This is why so many Christian parents have crosses tattooed on their child’s arm to remind them that they are Christians.
@Jen-iv8lc
@Jen-iv8lc Ай бұрын
The thing about Christianity is that we are given free will to show our Lord how willingly we are with him and devoted without being forced or scared to not do it. If we leave him we knowingly accept where we may go in the after life but it was all a choice. I respect Muslims but it does seem much stricter to the death of it and I will say even that they are more respected as a religion currently, I think it’s easier to be mocked for being a Christian than any other religion theses days people use it as props and games but He is almighty and will reign again ❤. God bless.
@nunya54
@nunya54 Ай бұрын
No human is forced to do anything in any religion. All people have free will. Islam is a complete religion which has consequences to actions that are there to deter people from committing sins and evil before they are punished eternally. Fear is a part of faith and necessary but faith in Islam is also based on love and hope too. The laws in Islam are not as strict as the laws of Moses that Jesus said he came to uphold and fulfil and that he said could not be abolished. Those laws also included killing anyone that called to another religion and many more harsh and punitive laws, more that can be found in Islam. Christianity is not based on this due to following Paul abolishing those laws but it is not based on actually following Jesus who came to uphold those laws.
@jared321
@jared321 22 күн бұрын
On the note of slavery in the Old Testament - if you were a Hebrew you were to be set free on Jubilee regardless of duration of your enslavement. If a slave from a foreign land converted and became a Hebrew they too would be set free on the Jubilee. This is also true for the forgiveness of debt. In other words it’s more about redemption and forgiveness but people either haven’t actually read it or choose to ignore it to build their straw man arguments and false equivalencies.
@BlackSmoke103
@BlackSmoke103 6 ай бұрын
I’m a Ex-Muslim that found Jesus. The greatest decision I’ve made for myself. I still have a lot of respect and love for my Muslim brothers and sisters because the ones I’ve met and crossed paths with, were genuine people.
@2006amran
@2006amran 6 ай бұрын
I'm a Muslim and I also found Jesus and many other great prophets peace be upon them all
@abainataif4800
@abainataif4800 6 ай бұрын
@@2006amran Jesus and Prophet not exist in Islam, those all are Jews. The false stories in Islamic teachings are as false as any claim in Islam. 95% of Islamic teachings about worshiping god with 100% imitating and following whatever Muhammad said and did, a pedophile, cheater, fornicator, rapist, robber, murderer and all the barbarity that humans can think of. In the context of praising God, you can see that every terrorist will shout ALLAHUAKBAR, kill and behead people, rob, rape as has just been demonstrated by HAMAS where Muslims all over the world are praising God by shouting ALLAHUAKBAR. Islam is a disgusting religion that teaches every Muslim to be a terrorist and racist and they are praising god... yes, the god of Islam is the real DEVIL.
@nils740
@nils740 6 ай бұрын
Amen hallelu Yah! 😊 Jesus is the way the truth and the LIFE ❤ God bless all who seek the truth with every inch of their soul and understands it when they see it! Peace and mercy on you, in Jesus name, Amen ✝️🙏
@votebritish
@votebritish 6 ай бұрын
They are no longer your brothers ,dont know where you arrive at this mindset,it is not scriptural. And if you find yourself back in a Muslim country ,you WILL be murdered as an apostate.
@Eddie-gk4wm
@Eddie-gk4wm 6 ай бұрын
I was a Christian who became a Muslim, Alhamdulilah. Does this mean you believe in the trinity now and not Tawheed?
@user-vz8bl
@user-vz8bl Ай бұрын
I'm so jealous of people born into Christian families and countries. I was born and raised Muslim, then realized Islam is not true later in life. I've lost so many people because of this decision.
@dgathome4345
@dgathome4345 Ай бұрын
If they persecute you, remember that they persecuted Jesus first. You’re in good company. Stay strong.
@alisaSDgal
@alisaSDgal 19 күн бұрын
What a true blessing 🙌 God was able to work within you and lift the veil. Walk in peace for Jesus loves you.
@jaddy11mash
@jaddy11mash 19 күн бұрын
You’re not alone xx 😘 we got u
@sharoanthomas9809
@sharoanthomas9809 15 күн бұрын
Luke 14:25-27 '25 Many people were traveling with Jesus. He said to them, 26 “If you come to me but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower. You must love me more than your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters-even more than your own life! 27 Whoever will not carry the cross that is given to them when they follow me cannot be my follower.'
@ibnefayaz5107
@ibnefayaz5107 15 күн бұрын
All these christians who are enjoying in comments should watch the whole debate and realise that their own scripture bible has worst than this: Deuteronomy 13:-> "If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife [c]of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall not [d]consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you." and All these liberals,Athiests or people of other rekigions who are saying that if islam is so peaceful then why punishment of killling. I have some questions for you , will you be killed you go against the Government of a country or against the constitution of the country or you are found guilty of treason ? The answer is yes, so why do you guys have no problem in that law but have a problem against this Law of Islam. Why these double standards ?Similary The reason you will be killed is because you are going against the Governmen. And remember guys A person will be killed only if he openly goes and makes it public so if you keep it within yourself noone will know it and you will be living your life then .Only when he makes it public there are consequences still after that, He will be given three chances to come back , his doubts will be clarified. But if he persists then yes he will be killed.
@Ongwelalambs777
@Ongwelalambs777 Ай бұрын
Those condemning others to death for changing their religion when they themselves have had the freedom to change theirs are condemning themselves
@OfficialWilliamHillChannel
@OfficialWilliamHillChannel 26 күн бұрын
My god may allah protect this brother. He shut them down
@exceptionallymaybe
@exceptionallymaybe 6 ай бұрын
Brother Rachid really nailed it when he says "even Jesus does not kill adulterer woman in New Testament, giving example that Old Testament murderous law is replaced with forgiveness"
@mchenryjeremy
@mchenryjeremy 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't replaced. It was fufilled when Jesus died. God's wrath was taken out on Jesus. Those laws still applied which He took the punishment for. The point to that was, nobody is righteous TO kill someone for their sins, as we ALL have sin. Nobody has the ability to kill ANYONE for sinning. We are all unrighteous made righteous through Jesus' blood.
@virk734
@virk734 6 ай бұрын
That story is not authentic it was added as a good example
@AnoRepublic3D
@AnoRepublic3D 6 ай бұрын
God sent a messiah to save us from the consequences of our sins...death! 1 Corinthians 15:55-57 King James Version 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
@monwellchassion923
@monwellchassion923 6 ай бұрын
@@virk734you either made that up or got it from a “source” that’s not a source.
@ninaballerina2807
@ninaballerina2807 6 ай бұрын
These pseudo-Christians are doing what they are known to do - betraying Christ with their lies! Noticed how the panel comprises of Muslims only - whether ex or y? And notice, how the conclusion was drawn in collective agreement and undeniably taking on the hue of political nature and with a common enemy apparently?!! Draw your own conclusions from here on...and for Heaven's sake, Christians STOP trusting Muslims at all. Read the following and understand better: 1. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend that which Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated - both in Word & Deed? 2. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend Mosaic laws when Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated it by replacing it with Grace, Truth and surpassing Righteousness of God which was since the very beginning, even before mankind were created? To which, all genuinely faithful servants or prophets of God pointed to, constantly reminding the peoples to retrace their steps back to the crossroads, where the Gospel (God-spelt) and Manspel (man-spelt) diverge, that they may seek out the Ancient Path which leads to Righteousness & Life. 3. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend the wolves who masquerade as sheep in their midst? It isn't as if Christ hadn't been faithful to forewarn the world of them? 4. Why do these Christians on the other hand FAIL TO feel obliged to show how Moses had ended up lifting up & upholding the Serpent (symbolic allusion to the Devil) instead of God, and how he had replaced the Power of God's Word with his own rebellious spirit of aggression - thus forfeiting his Calling & Election to lead the people into Canaan? Thus also exposing how Islam follows the same path of rebellion, even upholding Satan as 'God', as was espoused by not just Moses but going all the way back to their so-called 'first prophet' Adam who is in fact the one to set the ball rolling by CHOOSING DEATH OVER LIFE IN SPITE OF FAITHFUL FOREWARNINGS FROM GOD. 5. Lastly, and most importantly, why do these Christians FAIL TO feel obliged to make it known loud & clear that God has clearly not entrusted Judgement to man, that it is NOT PERMITTED to men to take God's Judgement in their own hands? The coming Judgement of God is a Reality waiting to take place at its Appointed Time, and Christ has clearly exhorted and taught to all who will heed Him to patiently & prayerfully wait for it. Islam is the most deplorable of all manspels, next to Catholicism. One the pretentious Satan worsiper, conveniently forgetting Satan is also but ONE. The other openly profaning the holy Name of God by taking His Name in vain and adding the Same in a vain bid to validate themselves, even as they add It to their collection of pagan deities comprising of mortal men & women, going as far as to relegate the Lord as a mere man like them to justify their exaltation of them on par with Him.
@coreyjones7202
@coreyjones7202 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never felt like any Christian in today’s society is afraid to leave the church. Not the same for Islam
@fireheart5004
@fireheart5004 6 ай бұрын
I want to comment on why, when anyone talking about Islam, they talk about 5% bad instead of 95% of good? Because of what is living condition of Islam majority countries population whose are non Muslims? Second, many Muslim countries conditions of the general Muslim population? I believe nothing wrong with the religion and problem is people who follow. Any religion, if any person or group, took to extreme level, and it will spoil that religion's holiness.
@catholicchristdisciple
@catholicchristdisciple 6 ай бұрын
​@fireheart5004 it's not 5 percent bad 🤣 bro
@NotAnElf
@NotAnElf 6 ай бұрын
​@@fireheart5004 If you're a Muslim making that claim then you don't really have a right to speak about the minorities in those countries.
@LaurenSheehan
@LaurenSheehan 6 ай бұрын
Well I think a lot of Christians who leave the church experience some kind of fear and loss... But they aren't afraid that community will literally murder them for leaving.
@SanctusPaulus1962
@SanctusPaulus1962 6 ай бұрын
​@@fireheart5004 95% of Islam is not good. It is the opposite. 95% of Islam is terrible and there is maybe 5% good things. Islam is a religion that has violence, rape, mass murder, child marriage, sex slavery etc. inherent in the very core. There is no Islam without those terrible beliefs as espoused by the quran and Muhammad. That's like saying "why do those people always focus on the 5% bad stuff about Nazism, instead of the 95% of good things"?
@mr.t5589
@mr.t5589 14 күн бұрын
i dont study the bible, but i am catholic, and ive never been to a mass where they speak for violence against anyone, its always about forgiveness and love one another
@nunya54
@nunya54 14 күн бұрын
Violence in religion is/should be only as a result of punishments for laws broken as God legislates. Christians don't follow the laws of God in the Bible. Forgiveness and love is a modern adopted idea to promote and retain Christians rather than actual work which is what is actually contributing to its decline.
@BlackheartSky17
@BlackheartSky17 21 күн бұрын
This is so triggering to me and i unfortunately could not yet have this conversation with these brothers of mine. Literally not understanding the Bible but reading in the way he does. And he didn't answer his question Clear to see who is rational and loving
@JesusisLord697
@JesusisLord697 2 ай бұрын
So scarry for someone to tell you in the face you be killed. 😢
@ajc5930
@ajc5930 Ай бұрын
If you walk with Jesus, you will never die. The pain and length of your life and death will be like sleeping under a bridge for a single night and going back to your Father's mansion.
@ghassan1301
@ghassan1301 Ай бұрын
لانه دين اجرام، سبي، نهب، عبودية ، اغتصاب
@nooralgroon
@nooralgroon Ай бұрын
Please, most muslim countries apply this to ex muslim haters, especially when they gain some kind of credit for spreading very false information.
@ghassan1301
@ghassan1301 Ай бұрын
This is real islam
@emmanueljohnson6598
@emmanueljohnson6598 Ай бұрын
​@@nooralgroonand you support such stupidity?
@ernestoazari
@ernestoazari 6 ай бұрын
My Grandfather killed his own daughter (my aunt) and got away with it because of the Islamic Sharia law. She (age 15) had to marry someone that she didn´t love and when her husband(around 30) was sentenced for life in Jail for killing another person , she reconnected with her first love from her youth and my grandfather found out about it and she was beaten half dead and burried alive. I was born in Iran but thank to Jesus I came to Germany as a child and I can tell you that ISLAM as a relligion and Idiologie is the pure EVIL ...
@leadsfurnace1349
@leadsfurnace1349 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for speaking up.
@techelixir1701
@techelixir1701 6 ай бұрын
that's the saddest part of following religion more than human values. In Islam there is not much of scope to debate it. whatever is written is the final truth. that's it
@mzion4686
@mzion4686 6 ай бұрын
Mein herzlichstes Beileid 💔 Hoffentlich dürfen wir hier noch etwas länger in Sicherheit leben, angesichts der Gefahr, die wir nun auf deutschen Straßen erleben 😢 Unfortunately it's getting more dangerous even in Germany.....
@mamacat63
@mamacat63 6 ай бұрын
​@@mzion4686what do you mean? My daughter has to go there in the spring with the military and wants to go see some places. I lived in Stuttgart in the early 70s and it wasn't bad that I can recall
@mamacat63
@mamacat63 6 ай бұрын
Please pardon my ignorance, but what was she supposed to do? With no husband to support her, how was she supposed to survive?
@mimiyilma9211
@mimiyilma9211 21 күн бұрын
None of us are nothing without Jesus Christ I love my Jesus Christ he is everything to me I can’t imagine that my life without him and thank you for sharing
@edmundostrowski5480
@edmundostrowski5480 Ай бұрын
I am somewhat surprised that the participants fail to recognize what to me is obvious. Let’s set aside the Quran for a moment and focus on the prophets at the center of this debate. Jesus Christ was born and died a Jew. He never denounced his faith. He openly denounced the corruption of the religious authorities, and he offered a more compassionate alternative within the principles of Judaism. The essence of his teachings were a re-evaluation of the Torah and Talmud with an emphasis on brotherly love, humility, tolerance, and peace and justice for all especially for those neglected by the religious authorities at the time. His intent, in my estimation, was not necessarily to create a new religion but rather to bring Judaism and humanity to a new level of consciousness. He did so by preaching a new vision within the context of Judaic practice and his apostles were given the directive to spread the word. The expectation was that through dialogue people would voluntarily adopt and live by these new principles. Never in his lifetime did Jesus Christ use violence, coercion, intimidation, and conquest to secure a following. Never did he subjugate the vulnerable, the disenfranchised, and the weak. Never did his teachings authorize and promote the abuse of others be they men, women, children, slaves, or the survivors of military conquest. For sure power brokers throughout history, in the name of Jesus Christ and his followers, used and abused others. This cannot be denied. But the source, the root, that is Jesus Christ never did, never promoted it, never justified it, even to his own demise. Compare Jesus Christ’s life and actions to Mohammed’s. Mohammed used his violence, subjugation, and deception to further his aims. He participated in and promoted jihad and not only as a means of self-defense (distorting the meaning of self-defense to include the act of rejecting Islam). When dialogue did not convince his audience, the sword surely did. As a final note regarding the Quran. You mention that 95% of the Quran promotes peace and only 5% does not, and that non-Muslim obsess over the 5 %. The reason why we do is, that the 95% references a context where peace and justice only exists within the context of Muslim conquest and domination, subjugating all non-Muslims to forced conversion, death, or the equivalent of slavery. And the drive and justification to reach this exalted position for Islam is through the verses of the remaining 5 %. If the 95% is really what matters then drop the 5% both in words and in actions.
@ezekielgutierrez9512
@ezekielgutierrez9512 23 күн бұрын
Good point.
@mohammadrafinoori7663
@mohammadrafinoori7663 6 ай бұрын
I am a former Muslim too I converted to Christianity. It’s love, peace and unity. Even tho I suffered and still suffering from where I was living, society, relatives and even my own family until today while I live in the USA and I’m still suffering because according to their faith and Islam I’m ( kafer) which described in Quran that I should be prosecuted! Meanwhile I’m sad because the US government is issuing visa, green Card and citizenship to these radical islamists who are on the streets and protesting against US and Israel. They ruined the asylum process, most of these people not in danger in anyways while when they get here they lie over lie that we are in danger back in their country the only reason they are here is because their countries doesn’t have good economy so they get here they get rich, they buy houses, they get citizenship, they send money back to their country, they eve go and visit the country they came in after getting Green Card and citizenship and they advertise Islam, they want to change the society and communities and no one is getting their way! While those who are really in danger because of their ideology and believe they are living a life where you can’t have status, no work authorization, no place to live, no support from NGO’s and unfortunately this is the reality of today so far in USA.
@barrettanderson2781
@barrettanderson2781 6 ай бұрын
May Christ guide and protect you.
@JahronII
@JahronII 6 ай бұрын
Okay as a Muslim I’m wishing you the best of luck in your next life but don’t consider all Muslims being like that. Nowadays we tend to believe that it’s Allah (God) who’s going to judge you. I’m half American half Djiboutian. I do have Christian Djiboutians friends back home and they live in a 99% muslim country and it doesn’t harm them. I will still make dua for you personally and wish for you to come back to Islam someday, but not wishing you harm as well. Take a chill pill!
@selfsculptingman8475
@selfsculptingman8475 6 ай бұрын
And you forgot to tell us that your dad was Imam in Mosque😂
@msfyzad
@msfyzad 6 ай бұрын
Lol...bullshit
@msfyzad
@msfyzad 6 ай бұрын
If you are an ex Muslim then why keep the name Mohammad, I mean it doesn't get more Muslim than the name Mohammad
@chidimmapuritymadu5855
@chidimmapuritymadu5855 6 ай бұрын
Is a blessing to be christian ❤❤❤❤
@michele-kt
@michele-kt 5 ай бұрын
Amen
@janelouisebriggs2999
@janelouisebriggs2999 5 ай бұрын
@Wmuthoni
@Wmuthoni 5 ай бұрын
Many people forget that before the 20th century many Christian nations were like modern radical Muslims. Spain kicked out their Jewish and Muslim communities after their conquest of Granada, England had banned Jewish people since the times of Edward I until late 16th century, Italian states often forced non Christian communities to convert, Nazi Germany attempted to exterminate an entire race because they didn’t practice the main faith, protestants and Catholics fought violently against each for centuries, thousands of women were burned on the stake just like some Muslim societies ruthlessly oppress women, many indigenous groups in the Americas were killed & African people were enslaved or colonized and the Bible was often quoted to justify all these atrocities. The proper statement should be being a modern Christian is a blessing since we now recognize how religion can be weaponized and don’t wish to repeat the past mistakes of the generations who came before us since it surely wasn’t great in the past for millions of people on the wrong side of the faith.
@optimisticallycynical.814
@optimisticallycynical.814 5 ай бұрын
And as a christian you belebe genocide is objectivity wrong ? or do you agree that Killing children is fine If God commanded it like he did in the old testament all the time
@joanarc7963
@joanarc7963 5 ай бұрын
Amen
@ChaseyBoyJones
@ChaseyBoyJones 25 күн бұрын
I would like to say that both sides do bring valid points. One thing I would like mention is that in the Bible, Jesus only mourned for those who rejected him in Luke 19:41, I think Christianity putting to death those who reject Christ isn't a thing because we are not called to do so as Jesus only wept for those who rejected. Maybe I'm putting this out of context, but it's something that I wanted to put out there.
@andrewcrossman2165
@andrewcrossman2165 14 күн бұрын
Freewill is sacred, murdering a walkaway is falsehood
@charlenejulius8501
@charlenejulius8501 2 ай бұрын
I love being a Christ follower. I love everything about Christinity. God is not interested in religion but in a relationship. My Muslim family is so lost . They need Jesus. I will never give up praying for them.
@anthonybr22
@anthonybr22 Ай бұрын
Why would god in his infinity perfection be “interested” in relationship. He’s whole and doesn’t need anything 😅 you got it all wrong maam
@thespecial
@thespecial Ай бұрын
Why didn’t Jesus show up and what is Jesus waiting for? Jesus actually is a slave of a God and he’s a messenger. He will never do anything to you or respond to your messages as long as God didn’t give him the order.
@charlenejulius8501
@charlenejulius8501 Ай бұрын
No I don't. Every knee will bow down and every tongue will confess Jesus Christ is LORD. You will see
@huzzy_jr
@huzzy_jr Ай бұрын
bla bla bla nobody cares about fake person Gay Jesus
@elijahcruz970
@elijahcruz970 Ай бұрын
​@@charlenejulius8501Amen sister in Christ. Don't pay attention to fools, they will bow down to a true living God. JESUS IS LORD #JESUSOVERMUHAMMAD
@all4-1
@all4-1 Ай бұрын
I am so happy he finally said Jesus saved us from the laws of the old testament as far as killings
@nunya54
@nunya54 Ай бұрын
If Jesus is God, he wrote those laws which one has to say are just if they're from God/Jesus.
@williesreserve7475
@williesreserve7475 Ай бұрын
@@nunya54 God can rewrite his laws, as he did on the cross. clearly the old law was not working so God has created a new law that works for him and sorts out the sheeps from the goats
@nunya54
@nunya54 Ай бұрын
Except this goes against what most Christians say that God cannot change@@williesreserve7475 God did change right? He changed his laws, became Jesus? coming to earth because he couldn't understand humans any other way and killed himself to pay the price he himself set. Why does God need the blood sacrifice of himself to forgive sins?
@williesreserve7475
@williesreserve7475 Ай бұрын
@@nunya54 the cost of sin is death and Jesus sacrlflced himseIf in our place out of Love and grace but he rose in the 3rd day and lives forever..
@nunya54
@nunya54 Ай бұрын
@@williesreserve7475 If Jesus is God, he set the cost and then paid the price himself? This does not make sense. God cannot die and this would make God an unjust, not loving God. God can do anything which means He can also forgive sins. If this is true, that means God required a blood sacrifice which means he's not loving. He wanted an innocent person to die for things he did not do. Who believes that about God? Good thing there is no evidence this is true. The first followers of Jesus during that time did not believe Jesus died. The people that actually saw Jesus did not believe that. James, the disciples, the early sects of Christianity, all closest to him in time, did not believe he died. It was common knowledge in the first century that he did not. It's not true. There's much evidence against it. It was another made up story of the gospel writers.
@engrosama6182
@engrosama6182 19 күн бұрын
The funny thing in this discussion is that people don't really see the context of verse when they study Quran.... There are punishments in the Quran with proper guidelines.... There is a Chapter in Quran called "Toubaa" which defines strict punishments for both non believers & believers as well.... The fact that I have seen christians not replying to thier contradictions in the holy book and jumping back & forth claiming that some sections of old testament are OK but some I don't like.... Whereas Muslims don't ever say that some sections of Quran is OK but some I don't agree with it.... We have sects based on hadits; not Quran.... There is no person in the Muslim world who would say Quran is different..... That's the biggest difference... Muslims brothers in the discussion have calmly explained thier point with valid & solid evidences.... It's up to people to listen or ignore them if they wish.... #Peace......❤
@keletube951
@keletube951 11 күн бұрын
The way I paused when the Muslim said “yea so.” Because that’s should’ve been end of his sentence.
@djjaysmoke
@djjaysmoke 6 ай бұрын
16:17 this brother said it all. I truly felt his pain and sadness. This is the gospel. I don't understand why these muslims think they understand what Christianity is because they read some old testament books.
@ngozinwankwo5051
@ngozinwankwo5051 6 ай бұрын
Exactly
@christophergaitan8303
@christophergaitan8303 6 ай бұрын
@@ngozinwankwo5051they try to find any passage that can possibly relate or even agree with theirs , but then when the Bible disagrees with them , they say the Bible is corrupted 😂
@philosophyze
@philosophyze 6 ай бұрын
Context is everything.
@philosophyze
@philosophyze 6 ай бұрын
In the First Testament (as Scot McKnight likes to call the Hebrew scriptures), YHWH was claiming both the land as sacred space and the Israelite people as a nation of priests to the Nations to live in His land. That's why when the Israelites abandoned YHWH and were doing evil things including child sacrifice, YHWH kicked them out of His sacred space to Assyria and Babylon as a way to clean out sacred space. This was temporary.
@philosophyze
@philosophyze 6 ай бұрын
The Christian might extend that to why the remaining people of the tribe of Judah were temporarily kicked out again after Babylon in 70 AD until 1948 after rejecting Jesus as YHWH's promised suffering servant and representative to accomplish what Israel was supposed to accomplish (e.g. Jesus' 40 days in the wilderness success was representative of Israel's 40 years in the wilderness failures, etc...). Could it happen again? I hope not... but are they being a nation of priests to the world? Destruction of the nation would mess with all the Dispensational interpretations of Biblical eschatology. I have a different interpretation framework so it's not inconceivable to me that God could do this again without messing up the framework.
@sofia11102
@sofia11102 5 ай бұрын
I’m so grateful to be Christian 🙏🏻 I was born into a Catholic family and I was raised in the Catholic Church. Jesus is Lord.
@LorenzoMasterConnector
@LorenzoMasterConnector 5 ай бұрын
The TRUE Christian faith handed down to us by the rock St Peter with unbroken succession that is well documented.
@thelordismyshepherd1366
@thelordismyshepherd1366 5 ай бұрын
@@LorenzoMasterConnector True Christians are those who have truly repented and have had their sins washed away by the blood of Jesus. True Christians have a relationship with God and allow him to guide them. They live in the spirit and not in the flesh. True Christian have been born of the Spirit and have the assurance of their salvation in the person of Christ not an institution.
@LorenzoMasterConnector
@LorenzoMasterConnector 5 ай бұрын
@@thelordismyshepherd1366 Christ left us his church and is holy orders. You don’t make the rulers, God does. ☦️ repent while you can
@arnoldpaschal5494
@arnoldpaschal5494 5 ай бұрын
"There is truth in other Churches but the complete 💯% truth is in the Catholic church" I first heard that statement from our Patron priest in high school.The Catholic church is the custodian of Christ's doctrine.
@thelordismyshepherd1366
@thelordismyshepherd1366 5 ай бұрын
@@arnoldpaschal5494 There is truth in all Christian church that 💯 % trust in Christ. God doesn’t see denominations he sees the hearts. Are those hearts close to him? Are they continually being cleaned by the blood of his son Jesus. There is no monopoly on Jesus Christ. Where he is being preached there he will be. We can’t put God in a box.
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