Should You Buy 1 Rolex Submariner Or An Affordable Watch Collection?

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4 жыл бұрын

Today we return to a format from the earliest days of the channel and answer some frequently asked questions on collecting watches. Is collecting "affordable" watches a mistake? Would it be better to sell an entire collection of affordable watches in exchange for just one grail watch?
In this video I aim to help Daniel, a member of the good Gentry, who emailed me for advice. After collecting watches for 2 years his current daily favorite is the Glycine Combat Sub GL0185. He wants to sell his large collection to buy his dream watch - a Rolex Submariner, reference 16610 - which is approximately the same value. What should he do?
Join me for some classic Gentry watch collection talk, including advice for Daniel, and a few things one should take into account when contemplating such a big decision, from financial considerations to seller’s remorse.
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@mshi101 4 жыл бұрын

"never prioritize a watch over the fundamentals of life" Me: *Eating cup noodles wearing my casio A158WA*

@andrewd7586 4 жыл бұрын

Mia Shibly Lash out & add a tin of tuna!🤣 Love Casio’s!!!😍

@cuauhtemocmorisco3493 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@rsucesso 4 жыл бұрын

Me with unpaid rent wearing a Ceramic Planet Ocean

@insertnamehere5146 4 жыл бұрын

people might be trading their Rolexes for some packets of your cup noodles in a years time at the rate this pandemic is working its way through the world

@granto6712 4 жыл бұрын

I did that got my sub new only had it on 5times sold 3 years later it was black, wish I got the hulk, have a blue omega seamaster love it

@getoffmylawn8986 4 жыл бұрын

Daniel should NOT sell his "cheaper" pieces. I've had 4 Rolexes over the last 40 years; a 70's red-letter Sea Dweller, a 2 tone Sub and 2 GMT 2s. 3 were sold, one stolen. Now I'm down to one, a Sinn EZM 3F and very happy to not be chasing grails anymore. My late father once told me that "Most of the time, the wanting is more fun than the having." Now, at 66 years old, I realize how right he was.

@MaleGolfer 4 жыл бұрын

How true!

@jimv.6631 4 жыл бұрын

Well said. 👏🏻

@rsucesso 4 жыл бұрын

Wise words

@treasurecoastgypsy 4 жыл бұрын

Well said ! Wisdom with age

@michaelbishop9157 4 жыл бұрын

same applies with women

@MikeS309 4 жыл бұрын

"Don't buy it if you can't afford to replace in right away"....great advice for ANY luxury item.

@WatchUnwind 4 жыл бұрын

good advice mike

@mariog7213 4 жыл бұрын

Is this advice specifically for watches or anything? If it’s a general thing then most people shouldn’t buy a house with a mortgage

@EdisonChar 4 жыл бұрын

@@mariog7213 With insurance, you can replace a house when it burned down. So the advice applies.

@DubSalvation 4 жыл бұрын

@@EdisonChar so get insurance for the watch as well?

@guilhemsd2949 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, same for cars : "buy a Ferrari if you can buy 2 of them"

@dinner_workingsly 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t get rid of any watches. I’ve made the mistake in all of my other hobbies, and it sucks to work twice for one thing. So I keep watches, if I want one further from reach I wait and buy it when I can....but I always keep them.

@KevAlberta 4 жыл бұрын

Same with me and my game consoles. Lots of my friends sell their old games and consoles for money to buy the new generation. But always regret selling the one they had for emotional reasons

@Furniture121 4 жыл бұрын

I follow a similar philosophy, buy what I truly want rather than buy what strikes my fancy today. To achieve this I tend to not buy on impulse, but take months deciding on what I want. Yesterday I ordered a Seagull 1963 sapphire, I had been looking at them since last Jan/Feb and only yesterday decided I actually want to try one.

@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын

People who "buy back" their childhood memories for lots of money after selling them for a few bucks only a few years before are weird.

@arthurluz5356 4 жыл бұрын

Kev Yeah, I had a similar situation recently. I donated my ps3 to a less fortunate person I knew as I was using it very little and knew that it would be really appreciated by him. Although I really don’t regret it because of how much he enjoys it now, I sometimes wish I still could go back to it.

@hense123 4 жыл бұрын

@@KevAlberta no that's just keeping the junk you already played. You will never use these games again. I also had a huge game collection. Finally managed to sell the stuff since my home looked like a game store. From the money i bought some nice watches.

@ryandaman9403 4 жыл бұрын

Despite the fact that I have collected hundreds of watches during my life, I envy the man that can settle on one watch to call his own.

@jackominty3633 8 ай бұрын

I have several good watches, and couldn't settle for one. But.... I have a friend who 20 years ago worked a summer in St.Tropez as a waiter, he was young - maybe 20-ish - and bought a Sea-Dweller with the proceeds. It's still his only watch (apart from an Apple Watch), and I love the watch and the back story.

@valengreymoon5623 4 жыл бұрын

I think the term "affordable" is completely relative, depending on one's income. Collect what you like, and like what you collect. There's nothing wrong with having a diverse collection. I bet the guy who owns an FP Journe, also has a G-Shock.

@theurbangentry 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent point. I love open minded collectors like that. Thank you Valen, Best regards, TGV

@mariog7213 4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I don’t have many watches in my collection but I do have some relatively expensive pieces and currently my favorite one is the seiko snk805. I love looking down at my wrist

@wayneturner1336 3 жыл бұрын

I always say “never finance a hobby” so I buy what I can, save for what I want and when I look into my WatchBox I see a collection that started when I could hardly afford to buy one to ones that are worth thousands. Each one I got to remind me of a particular moment or event, each one I researched and read up on and determined which one I wanted. I wear them all, I don’t worry about the odd bump or scratch as they just add to the story behind each one. I always tell people, when they ask, to buy what they like, never worry about what others think and just buy what they enjoy. It’s their collection after all, it’s reflective of their tastes and their growth as a collector.

@valengreymoon5623 3 жыл бұрын

@@wayneturner1336 That's the whole idea, and I agree with it. Buy with the heart, not the head, or you'll just find yourself not wearing that "investment piece", leaving it in a safe somewhere, or selling it. Just like classic cars. Why buy and not drive it? That's what it was made for.

@Megatraum504 Жыл бұрын

just keep that same notion for replicas and clones then please. It's what i can afford. It's what I like. For someone like me, i could never justify buying a time piece for more than a thousand dollars. It makes no sense to me why someone would buy a watch like a tudor that is an homage to a rolex, that still costs thousands of dollars., when there are high tier clones that often have better movements or the same eta movements you see in "affordable" watches that only cost $500. I'm ranting a bit, but i feel like many people think the way you do, until it comes to clones. The watch snobs love shitting on clones and anyone who wears them .

@toonlad4091 4 жыл бұрын

1 watch? Even if it is a Submariner..... That's pretty boring. Having a reliable, decent diver, dress, travel, digital, pilot, field watch is far cooler IMO 😎⌚👍

@iaido01 4 жыл бұрын

i have a 4 watch collection and i really don't need anything else. 1. my speedy pro 2. hamilton khaki mechanical field 3. JLC reverso medium small sec. 4 casio Gshock DW 5600.

@gigicamscump 4 жыл бұрын

totally agree. i like field and pilot/flieger watches so much, besides divers/steel sport, so i need at least six.

@vincentgoh1889 4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@davemilne2484 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. It's cool design and quality that drives my collection. Plus it's important to cover the diver, chronograph, dress, fliger genres

@fredbone1 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I believe you should have a decent spread. But of course, all within ones means.l, respectfully.

@rollingstone1689 4 жыл бұрын

I wish all viewers best off health. Stay blessed.

@junwoojang2941 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, same to you :)

@mrartdeco 4 жыл бұрын

You too!!

@SarumanDeWhite 4 жыл бұрын

And you too.

@gigicamscump 4 жыл бұрын

you too!

@aureliuscaos692 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, likewise👍

@JeffreyThreat77 4 жыл бұрын

My approach: Set your goal, save your money, do your research, enjoy the journey. I recently saved for then bought a Grand Seiko GMT Quartz. After dropping over $3k on a watch, I was expecting buyer’s remorse. It didn’t happen. Because I took my time, did the research and had more than enough money saved up completely separate from my “responsible money” so I could get the GS and still had enough for another watch. Now I’m saving for my next.

@mainefresh 4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Threat cool. I’m saving now for a grand seiko 62Gs

@joeskeptical4762 4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Threat: Well done, good approach and congratulations for being satisfied, with no remorse or regrets. One comment on the choice of words, directed at the viewership in general: it isn't research but just study and becoming informed. Doing research is scientific process and inquiry, far different from and well beyond most situations where folks now often say "do your research". Just read up, study and become informed.

@chelious1973 4 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Threat. That is the way to do it. Responsible purchases. I do the same. Congrats on the GS. Nice piece. 👍

@elefantrising 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t think I would ever regret buying a grand seiko. My usual collection is two watches which includes a GS and a shogun but if the collection ever balloons to three it will be another GS. Enjoy yours in good health

@josephpeppard561 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jeffrey, great comment that echoed my thoughts as well. I recently purchased a Grand Seiko Sport watch. I too did my research and I'm very happy with the purchase.

@miguelbarrera8052 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Tristano. The reason why you're still my favorite KZfaqr for watches it's that you keep your passion for watches, the sincerity and honesty in your opinions, the humility that comes with your watch experience and the long way to get where you are but without forgetting the beginnings. Always having in mind us "mortals" who will never get a Rolex but help us remember that our Timexes still get some respect. Keep up the great work. And stay safe.

@tubefriki76 4 жыл бұрын

"Never buy a watch you can't replace immediately..." Best advice for watch collecting 👍⌚

@JayB-lz6yd 4 жыл бұрын

or better, don't buy a watch that you can't afford the servicing. LOL. so many people forget about that when they buy a watch. some expensive watches are super expensive to service. so many people end up reselling them because of that. this is so stupid.

@theLabradorite 3 жыл бұрын

@@JayB-lz6yd Exactly. Even affordable automatic watches are expensive to service. That's why I tend to buy quartz these days.

@corybrown9933 3 жыл бұрын

@@JayB-lz6yd I owned a 2007 Breitling Superocean Chronograph for 14 years before really learning how to treat it properly. In that time, I’ve sent it to the factory 3 times to the tune of about $1600 total. I HAD NO IDEA. Also I just found out that I never really HAD to send it to the factory specifically, but could’ve spent half that having it serviced in the US.

@markwilliamson9199 4 жыл бұрын

Agree! My wife has bought several watches for me and each one I am reminded of her love for me and the event around it.

@a_z.tazzzfan8497 4 жыл бұрын

Another piece of advice; actually two, regarding selling your collection: 1. Never sell one you received as a gift from someone important in your life beit friend or family. You will never forgive yourself afterwards. 2. Keep the one that speaks to your heart that you'd love to pass down to your children and grandchildren. (In Daniel's case, keep the Glycine Combat Sub)

@nikolainikolaichev 4 жыл бұрын

Jeffery all of my watches are gifts from myself 😆 can’t let them go

@casualsuede 4 жыл бұрын

I agree, except for one watch I got from an ex gf, who gifted me her father's 1960's tissot seastar during a time were she was in a very bad point in her life that I helped her get over. While we aren't together, she tells me to this day how grateful she is to me. I plan to gift it back to her on the day of her wedding.

@nudgedoink55 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to add on, never sell a watch that is way discontinued and hard to find if you had enjoyed wearing it at some point. I almost did that for my seiko vampire monster and today I'm so glad I kept it.

@jimv.6631 4 жыл бұрын

casualsuede Good man! 👍

@speedyfreak9266 4 жыл бұрын

@@casualsuede she is blessed to have you as a friend - class move re-gifting to her...certainly it will be something she cherishes forever.

@whiskywatches 4 жыл бұрын

I was in this predicament several years when I was wearing a lot of fashion watches. I sold them all to buy a Rolex Sub. Once I purchased my first Rolex I quickly found myself owning 4 of them. As I learned more about watches I moved into more expensive brand like Patek, AP and a few others. Fast forward to today I reduced my collection to just a few grail pieces and several unique boutique pieces. I said all that to say watch collections are ever evolving. Buy what you like, wear it, enjoy it when you tire of it move in to something else.

@mrc7966 4 жыл бұрын

I started my watch collection with a lovely Rolex. I never really bonded with it, so recently sold it and I'm now putting together a collection of cheaper watches that mean more to me personally.

@markq1312 4 жыл бұрын

I can relate to this just sold my 116610LN and 116622 Rolex watches.

@davidcrandall4958 Жыл бұрын

Mr C. Good for you!

@miroslavrnjakovic8850 4 жыл бұрын

I was a one watch guy. I've always wanted a high end watch, so I bought one, when I turned 30 (like someone I know), and it was a dress watch, fitting for my every day wear, since my work requires a suit and a tie, on an every day basis. And I thought that was it. But then, I needed a diving watch, for the seaside and vacation. Then a beater, for around the house. Then a chronograph caught my eye. Then I needed a digital beater for the gym... And so on and so forth. One thing is for sure, a true watch lover, can't stop on a one watch, even if it's A.Lange & Sohne minute repeater.

@JustWatches1 4 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely still in the "affordables" phase. Also, affordable watches are a great way to figure out what your actual likes and dislikes are in watches generally. I think it is an important phase to go through to zero in on your correct grail.

@nintendokings 4 жыл бұрын

I’d say if you love watches, have a collection! But limit yourself. Set goals. I bought a 6-slot box, so that’s my max I’ve put on myself (for now haha, it filled up quickly). I think the most important thing is: don’t buy a watch just to fill or a slot or a watch you like 80%. Only buy watches you like 100% and has a purpose in your collection!!

@Warryn-qj5pi 23 күн бұрын

I agree. I also have the 6 box collection. Longines 3. Hamilton 2 Oris 1. All have a story and a history. I began my collection in my retirement. My oldest is 1942 Longines military runs well. Newest is the Oris big dial green. Each watch I feel a different attachment to. I think I've stopped collecting now. My wife hopes so. I'm 70. I love the idea that I can pass the collection on to my two wonderful sons. 😅

@0017Bulldog 4 жыл бұрын

TGV, you really nailed it with this one. I still recall when you introduced me to my entry drug...the Seiko SNK809. I got it new for $42 and I still love it all these years later. This little inexpensive watch is nearly perfect. The 7S26 is not perfect, but it fits the watch perfectly.

@danappleby6072 4 жыл бұрын

Great advice and no snobbery. Love your channel from here in Atlantic Canada, TGV. Keep up the good work and stay well.

@TheContreOfficialSkateboarding 4 жыл бұрын

Could you please do a video of only Movements? ETA, Seagull, Seiko basics (7s26, nh36), you alway mention them but we would like to know more about the common movements!! LOVE FROM A 21 YEARS OLD GUY FROM MADRID, SPAIN!

@arbiterofreason2068 4 жыл бұрын

hola amigo

@marziomaglietta7649 4 жыл бұрын

Common movements, but also uncommon, please!! Say something about jump hour or some others a bit rare and strange!

@TheContreOfficialSkateboarding 4 жыл бұрын

@@marziomaglietta7649 That would be perfect too! I agree💪🏾

@dannyfree1120 4 жыл бұрын

This would be useful.

@gigicamscump 4 жыл бұрын

hola, stay safe man. all the love to Spain, right now.

@appalachiangunman9589 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve started with an affordable collection. Hamilton Khaki Field Auto, and an Orient Mako USA II. Then my beater is a G-Shock.

@michaelriera6277 4 жыл бұрын

All great choices that will bring you great joy.

@appalachiangunman9589 4 жыл бұрын

Michael Riera I love the Hamilton, the Orient is actually in the mail and should be here Monday, the plague has slowed all shipping down though I think.

@WatchUnwind 4 жыл бұрын

thats a great collection there , off to a good start. I have a hamilton khaki feild auto and i love it. is yours the titanium ?

@appalachiangunman9589 4 жыл бұрын

Watch & Unwind no, mine is stainless cased. I just found out about the titanium model the other day when I visited Hamilton’s website, it looked pretty cool. I would love it if they made a titanium diver too.

@WatchUnwind 4 жыл бұрын

@@appalachiangunman9589 the titanium case is neat because its super light but your steal case is great as is. I have the titanium im going to do a review to put on my channel but i dont have it up yet. Please subscribe so you can check it out if you want id love to hear your opinion on it as you own the steel. Hamilton makes alot of great watches a titanium diver would be cool, titanium is so light and divers are usually a bit heavy so it would be interesting.

@landoctor94 4 жыл бұрын

I respect you so much, TGV. Thanks for helping me cultivate a hobby that truly gives me enjoyment.

@Number_006 4 жыл бұрын

I own several mid-range pieces (Hamilton, Seiko, and also a Yema Bronze Superman, among others). I just purchased my first luxury watch (Tudor BB Heritage 36mm) and I am beyond smitten with it. It could truly be a one watch collection piece (but I love too many watches to do that!) Thanks TGV for the video, as always, "pure class".

@eshea5050 4 жыл бұрын

Your opinions have helped me throughout my pursuit for the "perfect" timepiece. My idea of perfect has morfed over time and am glad I havent splurged on a luxury watch in years prior. I am saving up for a home and simply feel that I must wait to land on my grails. You have instilled validity in my affordable watch collection and heightened confidence in my wrist. Thanks Gent.

@zepp3lin 4 жыл бұрын

I can't get over my Seikos. It's been in my life since I'm a teenager even if it's an affordable Seiko Automatic. And now I'm into modding some of the Seikos and collecting some. I got anotter hobby though collecting some Electric guitars that i like and some of them can cost a Submariner. I priotise my desire of what I want and balance it. But I got no desire of owning a luxury watch and I don't know why or maybe because I can make a Seiko to look and feel like one.

@GinkgoJoe 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent perspective, TGV: well balanced and insightful as usual! 👍

@julietdeltapapa 4 жыл бұрын

This video had me captivated from start to finish. Your balanced, considerate and sensitive coverage of the question was impressive and informative. Brilliant! Thank you 😁

@LordTwaddle 4 жыл бұрын

I’d always prefer a collection of affordable watches over one specific high value piece. I’d absolutely love to own a rhodium platinum Rolex Yachtmaster 40 with the azure toned seconds hand, however I’m very happy with my growing “collection” of more reasonably priced watches. I have five Invictas (don’t judge me), a Richard LeGrand, a Zelos, a Lorier, a Feice and a Rocos all for a fraction of what one Rolex is valued at.

@andrewd7586 4 жыл бұрын

Lord Twaddle I love my Invicta’s too!!!😎🤫

@screamao8841 4 жыл бұрын

i always wanted a zelos.there is something abt this microbrand.i love how creative they are with the material they use and the dial design.if it was a luxury brand they would charge a house..lol

@RJ-cq8dd 2 жыл бұрын

Get the Pagani design 1651 (yachtmaster), it's a stunner! (the one with the grey sunburst dial)

@kwatts90 Жыл бұрын

I finally jumped on the Pro Diver train a couple weeks ago and honestly I’m really enjoying it. So much so another one I liked the look of went on sale and I grabbed it as well. 😅

@DaveMGmovies 4 жыл бұрын

Good advice as ever TGV. The other delight of a collection is discovering a gem to add to it. Last year I found a 1960s Certina waterking in absolutely mint condition. I bought it for a song because no-one is chasing that model -- and that sort of adds to the pleasure of wearing it.

@ali8qureshi 4 жыл бұрын

Love your passion TGV,Excellent advices throughout...

@lanceuppercut7436 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video TGV, as always. For me it’s the fun, enjoyment, excitement and passion that it’s all about when it comes to watches, not price point. O & U to your good self and the fellow Gentry.

@kjeldpedersen666 4 жыл бұрын

Hi TGV Tough question. There is a kind of mid term strategy that might satisfy many people though. It just requires you being very conscious about what kind of guy/girl you are. If you’re of the formal kind, buy an expensive dress watch and some more affordable pieces for sports, work purposes and so on. If you’re the sporty kind buy an expensive diver and some cheaper ones for dress, work etc. You get the general idea I suppose😂 This way you get to have your grail watch for the purpose where you’ll appreciate it the most and at the same time enjoy a collection... Not that I’ve been able to live up to this strategy - I generally use too much money on watches😏 Keep up the good work👍

@benjaminbarrera214 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I'm a formal person so an enormous dive watch on me would be absolutely ridiculous! Almost all of my watches are vintage and would be considered dress watches. But sports watches didn't exist in the 20s-40s, the average everyday watch from that time is now considered dressy.

@carlosbornes 4 жыл бұрын

As times passed and I learned more about watches I started to appreciate budget pieces. Right now I'm completely addicted to 80-90s Casio I bought a 1992 Casio AW-60 a early version of a fitness watch and I looove it and I only payed 50 bucks

@steverushmore5185 4 жыл бұрын

Good for you that's fantastic my last buy was a casio Royale £25 and i am enjoying that

@casualsuede 4 жыл бұрын

Budget pieces, or even fashion pieces have their benefits. They can be more creative and expressive while the higher end watches tend to stick to a lot of templates, hence you see an oris, an omega, an Breitling and many of them look more similar than separate. I have a $20k collection of watches and my latest purchase which I've worn for the last 4 weeks straight was a skagen cheapo watch I got for $45 on ebay. It has a sandblasted grey/blue dial I find mesmerizing on a yellowy/tan strap. Perfect for summer.

@TartanJack 4 жыл бұрын

As a collector of many things over many years I find your advice spot on. It's not just the acquisition, it's the living with.

@barrycolmer324 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely superb video. Great points made today in this video. Served as a welcome reminder of some fundamentals in this beautiful hobby

@jorgecosta95 3 жыл бұрын

I came here to learn about watches... Ended up learning about life!

@john99brazil 4 жыл бұрын

400,000 subs! Congratulations TGV!

@theurbangentry 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! :D Best regards, TGV

@RGMARTIALARTS 4 жыл бұрын

This is a question I have been asking myself for years now. Thank you for bringing this out. Stay safe and healthy TGV.

@chrismountbatton5260 4 жыл бұрын

Hi TGV, three quick points: 1. I love your channel, you are a watch lover, not a watch snob. Refreshing! 2. Keep your sense of humour, makes me smile 3. My cousin Hugo deserves his own channel!

@walkerb1734 4 жыл бұрын

Quality over quantity. It’s so nice when you find that one dream watch you can look forward to putting on every day and knowing it will be your faithful companion along life’s journey.

@fredwildman5835 4 жыл бұрын

Just bought my first Casio duro and love it.. in my opinion a affordable collection is great. I have 8 affordable watches and hope one day to get a tag!

@keluizok4906 4 жыл бұрын

Great insights on this one TGV. Really helpful and enjoyable. 🙂

@cannondale97 4 жыл бұрын

I applaud your very well thought out and detailed explanation on the Question instead of most people's usual one or two sentence answer. Well done TGV!

@nadgeemark 4 жыл бұрын

Having the right tool for what you’re doing is such a joy; a chronograph for timing events, a gmt for travel and a dive watch for adventuring....or you can just buy a Sinn 103 st sa dual time that does it all 👍🏼

@Brainman_2331 4 жыл бұрын

Sinn really makes crazy good watches and they even sell them for crazy low prices. I'm a big fan of them.

@Owl365 4 жыл бұрын

Some people think that a dog is man's best friend. Many of us however have found out, quite unexpectedly, that man's best friend can sometimes be a watch.

@varanid9 4 жыл бұрын

My best friend is my dog's watch.

@homelessmillionaire1 4 жыл бұрын

Now you're really stretching the limits of sensibility.

@Frank-zv5sp 4 жыл бұрын

wow, what a beautiful thought

@andrewd7586 4 жыл бұрын

Owl29 “TICK TICK!” 🐶 So that’s a watch dog?...🤭

@damo0078 4 жыл бұрын

Even TGV wouldn't trade his Dog for a watch....don't be ridiculous !

@ep7164 4 жыл бұрын

Tristano you’re really a GREAT coach ... thank you so much for your advices, always very inspiring !

@EvKool 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always , love the channel. I'm 22 and I just bought my fifth and most expensive watch yet, a Seiko Presage Blue moon with open heart which costed me around 500$ , double the price of my previous watch. People have asked me why am I buying cheaper watches like Seikos and not buy an expensive one like a Tag Heuer . To prove them that price does not matter , I let them take a guess of the price of the Presage and everyone guesses wrong , thinking it's a 1000-1500$ watch . After I reveal the actual price , they never question me again . I wear it with the same pride as I wear my Casio a164.

@brianbuchert6382 4 жыл бұрын

Evdoxos well please if your gonna buy nice watches please learn proper English it’s not costed like you spelled it

@EvKool 4 жыл бұрын

@@brianbuchert6382 Ironically, you spelled "you are" wrong and if you are so interested in English , use " going to " instead of gonna . Even though I have a proficiency degree in English, I'm still allowed to make mistakes . You on the other hand , should learn some manners. That is actually free .

@klausm5460 4 жыл бұрын

I would definitely miss changing watches on a daily basis. A friend of mine is saving up for a Rolex as his first mechanical watch and I´m urging him to start with a Hamilton or something else in the 500-Euro range to get used to the concept of a mechanical watch before spending 10k on his grail watch.

@21stcenturyMoments 4 жыл бұрын

Good suggestion. My first automatic watch is the Hamilton khaki field officer. Affordable under £400.

@DjVader112 4 жыл бұрын

Rolex as a first watch? That's how watch snobs are born, stop him at all cost my friend

@Dylan-xj8tb 4 жыл бұрын

Soooo, you want your friend to waste 500 bucks on something he doesnt actually want? Seems dumb, but alright. Might be a hint of jealousy in that request as well

@matrixmirage2148 4 жыл бұрын

@@DjVader112 Absolutely: When I started getting into watches around 4 years ago, I was just the same as KlausM54's friend: immediately wanted to buy a Speedmaster Man on the Moon and NOTHING else ... Needless to say, I'm proudly wearing an Oris now which I've learned to appreciate greatly ever since I bought it 3 years ago :) I'm currently saving for an Explorer I or a Seamaster Aqua Terra 150, but open for any other brands as well, not just these two (Who knows, maybe I'll end up with a Pepsi Tudor that I'll appreciate greatly)

@klausm5460 4 жыл бұрын

@@Dylan-xj8tb No, I want to keep him from wasting 10k on a watch he thinks he wants without really being into the hobby. If he really knows what he's doing by his own experience and ends up buying a Daytona I'm totally fine with that.

@koen8844 4 жыл бұрын

Great video TGV. Family comes first. Just imagine the sweet feeling when you're able to buy the Submariner, knowing you've always made sure you have provided for your family first. That feeling must be pure class and will bring so much more enjoyment when you wear that mighty Rolex. Looking forward to the next one. Regards, Koen

@erinjoy8338 4 жыл бұрын

Love your channel and your passion for watches. I myself have been really enjoying homages lately. I know a lot of people look down on them but it allows me to enjoy iconic designs for an affordable price, and thereby being able to have a small collection to rotate between as opposed to one expensive watch. That being said, one day I’d like to get a black bay 58 and a speedmaster:)

@larryknicks 4 жыл бұрын

This is super inspirational! I think it goes without saying that we truly appreciate what you do here ✌🏾👽

@Nelo-wj3qj 4 жыл бұрын

Great advice..I’ve concluded I could never have less than 3 , because what do you do when you need to service/ repair one!

@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT 4 жыл бұрын

tough question. I'm considering saving up for My Omega SMP300, and enjoying the affordable watches I have purchased in the mean time.

@KevAlberta 4 жыл бұрын

P M B some people doesn’t take long to save up. Like maybe a month or maybe 2 max. Some people are good at saving. No need to make payments that linger for months and years

@atheistofthenorth159 4 жыл бұрын

@P M B I don't agree with buying on credit if you do not have the money to back it up. But if you have the cash in the bank and have the option of interest free credit (and the self control not to spend the cash on something else) then why not make a little interest for yourself. I wouldn't do 48 months though - 12 months would be better. Of course bit of a mute point right now as interest rates are so low as to be pointless. Personally, I pay cash for everything. Houses, cars, watches etc..... If the SHTF nobody can take anything from me.

@ryantey1586 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you TGV for the advice!!👍

@tsperry6744 4 жыл бұрын

Never go into debt to by a watch best advice about watches I've heard yet.

@hkyper 4 жыл бұрын

A healthy 3 watch collection is my way to go.

@toonlad4091 4 жыл бұрын

I somewhat agree but there so many to just choose 3. Interested to know what people choices would be🤔 I have a small collection of about 10 watches, early in my journey and nothing too crazy in my watch box. My sub £3k 3 watch choice, that I own would be: Seiko Flightmaster, Oris Clean Ocean and Seiko 2020 Alpinist but I also could easily include the stealth 5KX, Heimdallr 6150 Apocalypse, Casio 5610, Casio Edifice...... This hobby is awesome innit? 🤣👍

@WatchUnwind 4 жыл бұрын

@@toonlad4091 diver, dress, casual hard to pick brands though my diver is a longines and my casual is a hamilton.

@dalejefferson9542 4 жыл бұрын

I “played the field”, now I’m a “one watch” guy...my trusty Rolex Explorer 2 (16570) in black. My watch until they take it off my lifeless body and hand it to my daughter...

@BennyBlanco481 4 жыл бұрын

Dale Jefferson she will then flog it to Watchfinder

@rsucesso 4 жыл бұрын

I try my best to stay alive. Otherwise my wife could sell my watches by the price I told her I have paid.

@sergiocastro588 4 жыл бұрын

Or hand ir to the pawn shop

@WatchUnwind 4 жыл бұрын

excellent watch , i think the Rolex Explorer 2 is one the best best watches to have if one were to just have one. Congrats on having a great watch

@projekt679 3 жыл бұрын

I have a polar and I had to get a Panerai as a rotator watch.

@averywalters9319 3 жыл бұрын

Very happy to hear someone say something I’ve said about not only watches, but for guitars and cars as well! They’re meant to be worn, played and driven! But take care of them! Earned my sub, looking forward to more vids.

@peterashton5941 4 жыл бұрын

Best video on watch collecting that I’ve ever seen. Many thanks shipmate.

@robertm.9633 4 жыл бұрын

1 Sub, did it for years. That was until I made the dumb financial decision and became a collector.

@johnravioli8376 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video TGV !!

@theurbangentry 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you John :D Best regards, TGV

@SwissWatchGang 4 жыл бұрын

After a few years of collecting and a couple of lessons learned I am leaning more to owning a big piece rather than multiple watches.

@TheMrFishnDucks 4 жыл бұрын

Good video. With watches its always been about the enjoyment and wearing them. Love the Hugo intro. Keep up the good work.

@amirawadalla5866 4 жыл бұрын

With an intro like that, I just had to like this video.

@desmobc 4 жыл бұрын

Watches are an addiction!! The only way I can control myself is to stay with 2 brands, Hamilton and Oris !!! If I start looking at all other awesome brands I’m domed!!!!!!!

@benjaminbarrera214 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I stick with vintage Bulova. I learned to service my own watches so I have a stockpile of Bulova parts. If I got a Hamilton, I'd have to start all over again! Hamiltons are the best American watches, though, I have a friend who only wears vintage Hamilton.

@AK-jl5xt 4 жыл бұрын

And two solid brand choices you’ve made right there indeed ! Enjoy them.

@inasero5390 2 жыл бұрын

Personally, I'm kind of a flat guy myself

@hanskullama3014 4 жыл бұрын

I like you thought process having a watch collection, rather than just owning one luxury watch. I totally agree. Nicely said. Keep up the good work!

@darrensmith6999 4 жыл бұрын

This has answered many questions for me, great episode. Stay Well guys!

@theurbangentry 4 жыл бұрын

So happy to hear that. Thank you so much Darren, that makes it all worth it. Stay safe, onwards and upwards! Best regards, TGV

@erikjohansson8769 4 жыл бұрын

Great answer to a good question! I would love to see a bit of an odd but nice Swedish watchmaker, Sjöö Sandström. I would love to hear what you think. Cheers!

@motaz1975 4 жыл бұрын

i have a mix of watches ranging from 35 bucks for a times expedition, all the way up to a 5,000 dollars omega seamaster aqua terra. i have room in my heart, and collection for all watches!

@salembeeman370 4 жыл бұрын

Love your channel. Thanks for the education.

@BrianThibodeaux 4 жыл бұрын

I found your channel several weeks ago. Watched most of you previous content and look forward to each new video. Like the fellow from Buffalo I too enjoy your positive attitude and passion for watches.

@mikeroy6713 4 жыл бұрын

“Sounds like I’m talking about something else” I was thinking of that analogy the whole show. There’s far less trouble with multiple watches.

@lowersaxon 4 жыл бұрын

Hugo: „ Sorry Darling, didn‘t know that you live on tight budget“.

@dorianfoley6047 4 жыл бұрын

Similarly: "Bud-get? Such a vulgar term dahling, do mind your language..."

@lowersaxon 4 жыл бұрын

Dorian Foley Forgive him, Darling, he‘s not an English man, bloody peasant from the Continent.

@travisrollins5424 3 жыл бұрын

Your face at 2:07."we'll get on to that" 😂😂😂 Priceless!!!!!

@patrik3083 4 жыл бұрын

Love your channel. Helping me getting into horology. What's on your middle screen? A screen saver? Anyway really cool.

@ErickdeHollander 4 жыл бұрын

Dear Hugo, You deserve a own show!

@iburley_ 4 жыл бұрын

*Definitely* keep the "cheaper" watches. You bought them for a reason, something about them drew your eye, and that's what collecting is all about. I've got a Cadence Radian watch that I bought when I was younger that I still wear. It's a cheapo quartz movement and a printed dial, but it's got charm.

@prathamprakash03 4 жыл бұрын

You nailed that man, that's a very amazing answer. Big thumbs up👍

@pm7510 4 жыл бұрын

Always great refextions! Best regards Urban Gentry

@jeonglee657 4 жыл бұрын

Personally, watch collection is a very personal thing. I am a one brand collector (orient star) and the reason is, i just dont know. We go through a cycle but having just 1 grail watch to give up a collection, just doesnt add up, in my thought.

@christhe812 4 жыл бұрын

To me, a collection of maybe 10 $500-1000 watches is much better than a single Rolex. I'd much rather have multiple affordable quality watches than a single grail watch.

@julienfroidevaux1143 11 ай бұрын

I know this is 3 years old . What about one grail and a couple cheapies ?

@thomassrensen2141 11 ай бұрын

@@julienfroidevaux1143do what makes yourself happy Not what other people think

@julienfroidevaux1143 11 ай бұрын

@@thomassrensen2141 yes I agree . But people who buy fashion watches which cost hundreds and cost $30 on Alibaba , shouldn't they be called out ?

@Christianwithacamera 9 ай бұрын

@julienfroidevaux1143 More like informed and then left to their own devices.

@thomaspowell9448 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the content and please keep it coming. I put your channel on most nights when I need to put my son to bed and your videos always send him off straight away and I would like to thank you for that. Cheers

@nophachiko3065 4 жыл бұрын

I love your channel. It inspired me to start my watch collection. I got the Tissot Janeiro in your honor. Love that watch.

@AEYRivera 4 жыл бұрын

I can't afford a Sub, so definitely I am for an affordable watch collection. I have loved watches since the 3rd grade (My mum gifted me with a Mickey Mouse Quartz watch) when I had no idea about luxury watches or movements. So I love watches for what they are, not as status symbols or investments. Digital and Quartz watches make me as giddy as my Autos, but I DO aspire to own a luxury watch someday. All in due time. By then I will know exactly what I want.... but most probably it still won't be a Sub. Thanks for the content TGV.

@NABROWNEBMX 4 жыл бұрын

Affordable collection, Hands down. You grow so much as a collector and refine your taste over time.

@John-ch8go 4 жыл бұрын

I’ll admit, I was one of those guys who thought you’d change to high end luxury. So glad I was wrong. Keep up the good work.

@syedozzie671 2 жыл бұрын

That was so much in this video. It was art. Inspiring

@johndoyle1969 4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I wish I had the money to buy a luxury watch. Most times though I’m glad I don’t.

@carpandrei7493 4 жыл бұрын

I, for one, am for diversity. So, a collection of affordable watches is the best choice as far as I'm concerned.

@TravisHi_YT 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think there's a way to mature as a watch collector unless you've experienced a wide variety of watches. Each one has their own character, pros & cons. The more you experience, the more you can narrow down what you would want in your expensive grail watch. I couldn't imagine spending thousands of dollars for something I would not want to wear or enjoy wearing.

@carpandrei7493 4 жыл бұрын

@@TravisHi_YT I couldn't agree more!

@Tennisfiles 4 жыл бұрын

You are a true gentleman and a scholar. Really enjoy your attitude and class. Keep up the excellent work, all the best! ⌚ 🙌

@Samurai9901 4 жыл бұрын

This was educational and inspirational at the same time. You could call it the gold standard of watches related videos. I'm also new to watch collecting and have compiled a list of watches I'm interested in but over time my attention does shift over to other pieces which may be becoming rare or hard to find. In the end all I want is good value for money.

@chriscon8463 4 жыл бұрын

If he sells his present collection, he’ll probably take a bath on it! Also, he’ll lose all the memories/nostalgia associated with what he already has in the process. He should continue enjoying what he has, put a hold on purchasing any new watches, & start saving that $ for the Rolex. Come to think of it, this is probably what I should be doing, too...

@nunosousavieira4023 4 жыл бұрын

By my humble experience, it is very easy to fall madly in love for a watch and maybe in two months the fire will fade away, because you rediscovered some other whatch that you did not pay attention well before. One should always meditate for a long time about a piece - if it doesnt come off of your head for that period, then it is the right choice to purchase.

@miroslavrnjakovic8850 4 жыл бұрын

True, but that is why I buy pre owned, so I don't get big burns, in case of a resale. I've owned 3 Seamasters and 2 speedys (I have only 1 seamaster now), and 3 different Hublots (I have 1 now), in different periods of time, since I needed experience to figure out which refference I really like. In my experience, wearing a watch for some time is the only solid method, for figuring out, what you really like. And most people are affraid of selling, and trading, I was too, but after a while, you get the hang of it, plus, you get the chance to get many pieces through your hands. For example, I have a 5 piece collection, but over the five years I have been collecting, I owned 13 different watches, most of them in 2-5k price range.

@nunosousavieira4023 4 жыл бұрын

@@miroslavrnjakovic8850 you are right, thats a good way to understand yourself. But also takes maturity to buy and sell a watch and being ok with that! If youre able to do so, you have many watches to enjoy and that is a win

@fredbone1 4 жыл бұрын

I found your review of the Yema very informative. So much so that I ordered the Navygraf Heritage with French colors. Keep those reviews rolling my friend