I absolutely agree with everything you said. As a combat vet I would say that anything you can do to de escalate a situation without taking a life is not only good for you legally but just good all around.

Just took a kinetic from a SD at 30feet. Any closer and it would have been bad. Folks have to remember that they are meant to inflict pain to force compliance or deter, not kill

The reason I hesitate buying one of these is if you pull it, others may think it is a regular firearm and you get shot.

I live in California, and we cannot carry a firearm without a permit. And getting one is almost impossible. This is a great alternative to carry in my car or a large event just in case. Like he said, if you use a firearm on someone get ready for lawsuits. I know a few people that shot at intruders and they ended up paying a lot of money to the victims. It's ridiculous, but that is how things are now. I'd rather subdue the person so I can get away.

Byrna is great for those who live in Blue states who have strict gun laws and strict gun self defense laws

This is a "hell-of-a-lot-better-than-nothing" option for someone not comfortable handling a firearm.

There's a young woman that I work with getting harassed by an ex-bf who is a bit psychotic, so I advised her to look into Byrna as an alternative to a firearm.

Great video brother. I live in northern California. It is really difficult to purchase a firearm for home defense. Its even more difficult to obtain a ccw permit. I bought two byrna sd's. One for me, & one for my wife. We are both very pleased with them. I'm looking in to getting some of byrna's bag guy repellent. I hear it works really well.

Nicely said! Everything. Great video, thanks

I bought my LE about 3 weeks ago and love it’s ability to get me out of harms way… Your video is to the point and covers all of the concerns that I had before making my purchase. I wish I’d seen your video first. Thanks for the great video covering the facts and variables… I’m now a new subscriber to your channel. Also no need to let your wife shot you unless you simply want to experience the pain. 😮

I agree with what you are saying. Logic and common sense always speaks to me!

I am a CCW permit holder but would like the option of non-lethal force against an unarmed attacker. I am 67 and can't fight a younger stronger assailant but wouldn't want to go thru the legal system if I used a firearm. I will put this on my Christmas list.

Thanks for the great information. This was helpful.

Thanks for the info !

I shared ya a couple of pages on FB hope ur channel grows

Logic and common sense in one video? Well said and overlooked by many.

I have other options for self defense, but I'm thinking of one of these for coyote hazing/defense. Not sure if I'm convinced yet.

Good points on why you should own. I believe everyone should be able to protect themselves from a threat and not be so dependent on law enforcement. I highly recommend that ladies consider this as an option for self-defense. It levels the threat when you are out numbered or overpowered without the guilt of taking someone's life!

Yes, you are correct, using lethal force MAY get you into legal trouble in states like NJ and NY. I'm 71 years old, so I didn't want anything to do with having a full carry permit. I do have a licensed gun strictly to go the range and for home protection. Due to the Castle Doctrine, you have a FAR BETTER chance of NOT getting into trouble. But I still need to make sure I ABSOLUTLY had to use lethal force to save my life. It not yes, I can have a problem. Outside, so many things can happen to cause you to use unlawful lethal force. One thing I will say, if you use lethal force outside of your home, you better make absolutely sure the "bad guy" left you absolutely no choice.

that is the whole reason why i got a byrna to avoid legal issues, just having it with a red dot maybe enough, and the first two shots from the LE are loud and will ring your ear. i wish there was a mod to make it louder. I think there is alot of room for different projectiles, maybe some chemical fire rounds that ignite on impact, flash bang rounds alot could be done with some R&D.

I agree with your video but I do want to expand on the fact that there are use cases where it's very useful to have non-lethal options around. In most states, it is illegal to store a firearm without locking it up in a gun safe with the magazine outside of the gun. If someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, you're trying to wake up, all the while going to your gun safe, unlock it, load the magazine and then go. This doesn't take that much time but every second counts. With a non-lethal guns, you can have it loaded and on your nightstand no problem. With the Byrna specifically, the CO2 won't be punctured until you need it, so you know you'll have fresh CO2. The other point is that ammunition for non-lethal can be a bit more creative. Loading the magazine up with alternating pepper balls, riot rounds, or kinetic rounds mean that you can fill up an area with pepper powder and being able to inflict some damage to someone. This is super useful and will deter the usual robbers. Of course, if someone is targeting you specifically with a gun, there's not much you can do even if you own a real gun anyhow.

Because it’s non-lethal, it’s mostly meant to buy you time, by either deterring threats, or allowing you time to retreat. It’s not meant to end the threat.

What are your thoughts on kinetic rounds v pepper spray? I would assume pepper spray rounds would offer more stopping power, but my worry would be that in a close-quarter scenario (road-rage for example) the pepper spray rounds could lead to cross contamination.

I’m looking to buy one but liked the chemical round option. Should I buy both or as you stated just start Kinetic

Good video. Many people say it's worthless but it has great stopping power without killing power.

If this video gets 25 likes I will let my wife shoot me with a kinetic projectile for a video. Thanks for watching!

The strongest value the Byrna has is for conceal carry. There are more powerful launchers (off the shelf), and inexpensive models that can be easily modified for much greater power, BUT, they are more bulky. The one exception is the Umarex HDP50, but it is limited to certain amo due to feeding problems. The two Byrna weak points are its under powered for kinetic rounds and they are expensive for what you get.

Well said man👌

Such a real dude

Well done & well said/covered. Like you mentioned, there are always going to be pros & cons. Always going to be people who speak well of this or who don't speak highly about it. The key, word(s), is OPTIONS. Most who buy this will not be trained Law Enforcement Officers or trained. That's okay! The goal? Not having to use deadly force or an actual firearm that shoots actual live rounds or bullets that KILL. For what it's worth, I believe there is a reason most police carry BOTH their service weapon AND a taser. It is nice to have at least something (especially for home or personal defence) versus nothing. 🙏🏻🙌🏻 Thanks everyone here for all your comments! Either supporting something like this or suggesting against it. It's GREAT to have input!!

do you know that theres an aritst that goes by lil narnia that looks a lot like you?

NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT . . . only comments are 1. it's carrying a .45 1911, is big and bulky 2. have to search for and test numerous holsters for C.C. 3. it's a "ROLL OF THE DICE" to travel with. Have to check a bag (with your Byrna) and hope TSA does not get into it . . other than that, ONE OF THE BEST ALTERNATIVE TO CARRYING A LOADED FIREARM

With all the airgun mods there are,can the power be increased any .. could this be modified to run hpa or nitrogen.. Co2 really sucks if I need it at 20°

Im getting one.

Now that I bought one, I wish I could get my money back. Rip-off bastards!

I'm leaning towards grimburg

I just bought the SD. I loaded the mag and have it in the launcher. How do I know the initial ball is in the breech. Or how do I get the indicator up that shows there’s one in the breech?

I live in a state that requires the same permit as owning a regular firearm to be able to own a launcher.

I’m new to all of this. Looking into purchasing. Can one modify it to put a laser scope on for better accuracy? My eyes are terrible and I’d shoot right past a perp.

I'd like to see the actual rounds shot, the differences against a watermelon

In New York a pistol permit can take two years and $400+ to get. And carry a spare mag with this.

Agreed 100%. Very nice video. My only gripe is I feel the LE is over priced. I’ve had 2 Byrna SD and HD. They did both break. I hope their quality improves. Because I do like them. I’d probably just go with the cheapest EP and use chemical rounds. I do like my Umarex line up better. I agree with your logic on using a real firearm. Its only the beginning of a headache 😊

Would you recommend the LE or is it more about the chemicals? LE is +$100. Remember that if they take it from you, they can use it on you. A gang for example.

I took a triple tap from a LE 5 feet away and it definitely hurts. So much I bought one..

It's one thing having and using an actual firearm on your own property, but if you are out in public or on someone else's land and get into a tussle where you discharge a firearm, you could be in a world of legal issues. This Byrna launcher is a safer choice in that it's non lethal so it slows someone down giving you time to get away, and no legal ramifications!

Is it better to buy a byrna than grinburg ?

I would think the tear gas round first because they’d be at a further distance then 2 kenetic and the rest pepper balls. That’s just my opinion though. 🤷‍♂ what do you think the best mag set up would be?

The john wixon 14 round extension makes the byrna worthwhile

I like this guy

5:30 My thoughts exactly.

I wonder the most about this NL is why not just carry an OC spray over this? Some OC spray has a very long range of fire and is proven to work very well against attackers.

Never seen a Byrna pepper round discharge it's gas on a person. They always bounce off. So really it's all about the kinetic energy, and don't bother with the more expensive pepper rounds.

I live in the Police State of New Jersey. I have a permit for guns in my home, so I got that covered. Cant get a CCW in N.J unless you have connections, are a cop, or Judge. So I carry my BYRNA LE with 2 mags....loaded like the gentlemen did in this video....pepper, max tear gas/pepper, and kinetc rounds. I also carry a blade as a backup and last resort. All I need is enough time to get to safety in the event of an attack. Funny thing is, I couldn't even get mine shipped to N.J and ended up picking one up in tbe beautiful state of Ohio while out there on business! 😂

If you use the byrna max oc pepper rounds they will be 100per cent effective and if you never experienced Ossie in the eyes and face directly you have no idea

Perp with a Byrns challenging a victim with a Byrns. What’s the outcome ???

Wonder if they have bear mace balls for this gun.

Unload in the groin area. Pretty sure that would make everyone have second thoughts about attacking you.😂😂😂

Forget the kinetic just unload the max on them 5 rounds of max is taking anyone down I don’t care who you are.

I wonder if you can carry pepper balls in NY if you live in another state

Chickened out on the getting shot video?

Great carry/conceal self defense object, even in blue states

In how many states is the bryna legal to carry

It is not leagal to Cary or own if you have a felony in the state of Nebraska. statue 28-1201 Definition Firearm means any weapon which is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or frame or receiver of any such weapon: Frame means barrel. Receiver, I think, means the clip or maybe trigger, that I'm not sure.

I agree with everything you said the only thing I see is if you pull this byrna out in self defense and imagine the agresor pulls out a real gun 😮

Weaving a fire arm in the air can gets you killed too.😊

Not just puffer jacket. Winter clothes pretty much eliminate the effectiveness. For those of us up north, Worst money I ever spent.

I live in pa and go hiking in ny alot so thinking this would be good cuz i cant take my pistols into ny.

I purchased the orange color so as not to look like a firearm.

Remember in a small space you will also feel the effects of pepper spray. Be ready for it.

I built a high pressure, hand held cannon identical to the weapon used in no country for old men. It makes anything I put in it perfectly lethal. No registration necessary. Same with my slam fire 12 gauges. They can come take my firearms but I'll still be defending my home, neighbors, and country. God bless

Hell yeah, dude, I got an 11-round magazine loaded with nothing but pepper, I pity the fool who wants to choke on that.🤢🤮

Thank you for common sense comment on using lethal force.

357 mag doesn’t care if you have a puffer jacket on or not.

OK

You have a coat on, im doing all head shots. You won't stand a chance bud

Lmao. 25 liks , how many times has she shot you. 😂😂😂❤

You absolutely could get killed with one of these if you're holding one when the police bust into your house, or if you have one in your car when they pull you over. If they don't know of you having a weapon they will be incredibly patient and deferential when they come in, but if they think you've got a gun you have to be incredibly careful. From the moment a cop yells "gun", there's about an 80% chance that you will be dead within a minute.

Can they be kept in a hot car?

I got hit by it tickles

If hit in the face only it will stop

Ill just stick with my can of mace , $20 and shoots 30ft stream 😂 cheaper than $409

No power

Put the rounds you talk about into a paintball gun and would be cheaper. This gun ….over priced. A gun is a gun. A weapon.

COULD buy you some time but you don’t know if it would. Not good enough for self defense. Useless 😩

less lethal option is better for getting kids off your property...

instead of buying a byrna people , spend the same money a byrna cost and get you not 1 but 2 umarex less lethal pistols . buy you a UMAREX HDP.50 and a UMAREX HDR.68. now you have about 300 bucks left over , so put that extra money into buying you a (2 piece steel tuning barrel , maybe even the sniper extension barrel piece , and a" modded for power " valve firing pin ) for both , make sure its from HOME DEFENCE -24 , they are the best . you will still have some money left over so get you some ammo for both !!! lol ... there are other people like you praising byrna and selling the public a false pipe dream . using a over priced toy like the byrna paintball gun will get you really hurt bad if a real situation ever arises where you have to use it to defend yourself . whats the joules rating on your byrna , what 10 , 11 joules maybe , you would be better off using a hunting magnum wrist rocket slingshot pushing closer to 20 or more joules LOL LMMFAO !!! now with the 2 umarex less lethals i mentioned earlier , if done right you can expect 30 to 42 plus joules from your modded umarex pistols . i would love to see you voluntarily letting your wife shoot you with a done right modded umarex hdp.50 or hdr.68 and see if you are still recommending the over priced ,lower powered byrnas . !!! hell even if you only pull out the valve blocks out of right out of the box umarexs , you will be looking at about 20 plus joules which is already double that of the byrna !!! just a quick note , the modded hdp's and hdr's i am talking about use only 12 gram co2 powerlets . imagine spending the money you could have bought a real firearm with only to have a toy paintball pistol that will only make the perps extremely more angry if you shoot them with it in a self defense situation ??? anything under 20 joules will not be very effective bro , please quit misleading people , sell the byrna and get you some umarex less lethal launchers !!!

Its just gonna piss someone off...then they slit your throat

Really, really bad idea to carry and use anything that looks like a gun but isn’t. If it looks like it’s a gun, I’m going to assume, correctly, it is and take appropriate measures. Just carry pepper spray.

Nope

DID HE SAY LAWN CHAIR? AND JUST HOW AM I GOING TO DEFEND MYSELF WITH A LAWN CHAIR. OHH LOOK HERE, A LAWN CHAIR. HAVE A SEAT. I'LL BEE RIGHT BACK. MY GOD BARBARA THAT IS SOOO STUPID. REALLY, REALLY!! IF YOU THINK THAT'S STUPID OUT THERE. YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE FROM IN HERE!!