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Should you buy an ATA?
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@stevezephyr 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my ATA Black Sporter 30" for getting on three years, i've put thousands of cartridges through it at weekly clay shoots and it's never broken or let me down, got to admit I love it.
@dianacarroll8860 2 жыл бұрын
I had one for three years , black 30” , sporter , does exactly what it says on the tin , a new gun with warranty for £700 great value for money accounted for a lot of pigeons Steve
@solslastcannula5665 Жыл бұрын
Where do you hunt sir?
@AndrewChilcott100 2 жыл бұрын
I have the SP bronze 30”, fitted me perfectly out the box, 2 1/2 years old now and still going strong, finish is holding up very well and still tight, no problems with it at all. I don’t count cartridges but it’s had 1000’s of 27g through it, way more moneys worth then I paid for the gun…. my idea was to use it as a starter gun but have no reason to upgrade yet !
@faycalamezianeelhassani4471 2 жыл бұрын
I have an ATA sp elegant, for nearly 4 years now, great wood, great gun, I shot more than 2000 cartridges with it, still reliable, no prospects for upgrading as I don't any reason to.
@alanpearce2322 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one, it was purchased as a starter gun. After 3 months the bottom barrel would not fire. Took it back to the gun dealer - under warranty - and that dealer replaced it without quibble on the spot. Great - you may think. The replacement gun within two months developed the same fault. Took it back to the dealer who sent it to the importers to have their gunsmith check it out. Five weeks of chasing produced nothing. Turned out the importers gunsmith was too busy to check the gun, it being close to that years main show. I was going to have to wait..! Obviously I was less than happy. The dealer that sold me the gun agreed that it was completely unacceptable service and an unacceptable reason for the delay. They refunded me my money which I put towards a brand new Beretta SP III, which in my view I’d have been better off with in the first place. The dealer (from whom I bought the ATA) also gave me a substantial discount against the beretta. So in my humble opinion I think these guns are rubbish, I would never recommend them, having had two remember - and regret not listening to those more experienced who warned me off anything Turkish. I would however recommend highly the gun dealer I used. ATA’s - wouldn’t give them house room. Sorry for the rant but you did ask in the video for all points of view…
@simonburch8762 2 жыл бұрын
Quite like your videos but this came across very biased towards Yildiz shotguns and a bit gun snobbish. Who is going to worry about a 600 quid gun after 100000 shells? I bet a fair few expensive brands fail well before this number. Your general body language before you even shot the gun came across like shooting it was going to be a chore. Not everyone has 1000’s to spend on guns, so not massively happy to see the kit I bought being referred to as starter kit and unlikely to be useful after a year.
@kerm9807 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your comments Yildiz probably sponsor the channel, it's the same with Browning over Beretta. Cracking Channel tgs (Jonny) gives you a very unbiase review know matter what make. The Research I have done points to ATA being the leaders in Turkish Guns. We have Brownings,Beretta,Yildiz and kofs in our cabinet. Looking at a ATA today
@stevesimmons6685 Жыл бұрын
Don’t let it bother you. I had an SO5 the rattled my teeth loose. Your ATA is a very good gun.
@nathantiffany8374 Жыл бұрын
Give me an ATA any day I own Browning's and Beretta's but I always go to my ATA they shoot a dream more comfy to shoot than my others
@brodiddy877 11 ай бұрын
Yikes.
@ruairigoat 6 ай бұрын
I have a ata supersport and think it's a great bit of kit for the money. Alot of features and something that if it gets a scratch or two, it's not the end of the world.
@Jack-ws6kg 2 жыл бұрын
Recently moved from a Bettinsoli to an SP sporter adjustable. The comb height on just the regular SP felt great (6ft tall big-ish build) went for the adjustable version, not only looks better but gave me more in terms of gun fit. With 30” barrels and the adjustable stock it balances really good in the middle. The gun is second hand so I couldn’t comment on how much has gone through it but it performed flawlessly when I took it out!
@forddude1976 2 жыл бұрын
I have the sp nickel with adjustable combe it's my first gun I have been shooting about 2 months and I love it it's a great gun
@forddude1976 5 ай бұрын
One year on still shooting it, I have lost count of how many cartridges have been throw it it's thousands, I keep improving all the time, I have intentions of replacing it
@bradhunter3101 2 жыл бұрын
I currently have two ATA, 12 and 20 bore.. love them both can’t fault them for the price. Brilliant for a rough shoot.
@MrMishMash27 7 ай бұрын
I own the SP Super Sport 30" 12g adjustable. For the money paid, I can't really fault it. The woodwork is really nice (I had a choice of 3 at the time) and I've recently got back into clay shooting after a few years out. I previously shot a Lanber Sporting Deluxe and glad I went for an ATA this time around (sadly Lanber are now out of business). Yes, the ATA is a heavier gun but they look great, handle well and I'm thinking of getting the Nickel Sporter or Bronze Sporter as a second clay gun. I also like the look of the laminated versions. Mine is a little nose heavy with extended chokes in but once the cartridges are in the gun this is reduced anyway. I've not noticed any excessive recoil with any cartridges - even 28g loads. Really great value beginners guns and well made.
@oakenloreknives6889 4 ай бұрын
Had a sporter for two years, fits me well and shoots very well It’s never let me down. The only thing with them is they are prone to rusting more than others guns.
@saneavenue356 2 жыл бұрын
I do shoot Olympic Trap. My shooting school still has SP Sporter which I started on 3 years ago, and it is still going. I bought one and after break in period works like a charm.
@Giblet16 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a sp black adjustable me and my dad call it the Turkish onyx very similar
@peterbiix1207 2 жыл бұрын
The Comb: "Not stupidly low not ridiculously high" sounds a perfect fit, it's the ATA for me then!
@justinf1343 Жыл бұрын
I am just about to get my licence (after a year of waiting) and for the money, I do really like the look of the ATA 12 gauge SP Silverline Sideplate. I will definitely test one out, before I make my first purchase.
@oliverfaiers7383 2 жыл бұрын
Got a 20b model for my daughter, great gun for the price of a few tanks worth of diesel!
@buzzner12 2 жыл бұрын
I use one for rough shooting no problem around 1000 shells put through it in 6 months still in one bit ideal gun cheap and better than some cheap end guns
@simonrodda394 Жыл бұрын
Bought one recently; can't fault it. I swear it doesn't recoil as much as a Miroku I tried. I'm left-handed, and it fitted *perfectly*, so no complaints there, either. You can see that the finishing of the stock wasn't given as much time as on more expensive guns, but I don't mind oiling it to get a better finish. I love the smell, and it's a therapeutic pastime ! Love the videos.
@geraldinedodd6922 2 жыл бұрын
Had my sp elegant for 2 years now. Shoot clays and game - love it. Great gun and fantastic value.
@michaeldinwiddy4864 2 жыл бұрын
I really like my ATA; exceptionally good value, and although I have bought more shotguns since, I do like to return to to it often, it like coming home.
@bazxtrail 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with some of the comments, not sure why you don't appear to like the ata? I have an sp Black with the laminate stock and adjustable comb and I love it, looks nice and I'm shooting well with it and I get a lot positive comments an people want to look at it n hold it. I'm proud to own mine an will never sell it even if I do get another gun.
@w.stevejoynerskeet9313 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 32" sporter with adjustable comb. I love it. I've shot Browning, Berretta, and many others. This is as good if not better than those. I haven't noticed any uncommon recoil.
@aeron-mw7ofs 2 жыл бұрын
Being a lefty I'd have to try one 👍
@buckshotaaa Жыл бұрын
I have tried a couple of ATA's at an open day just because i could. Two negative points (for me) were the roach belly forend and they kicked more than anything i have shot lately. But for a new gun they seem very good value.
@jamesbottomley5217 Жыл бұрын
Borrowed an ata today and to be honest I prefer it over the berettas it’s a nice weight to it lovely wood and finish and for the price of £700 they are perfect for any shooter doesn’t matter if you have a £3000 gun or a £300 in my opinion I have shot both and the price tag doesn’t effect my shooting
@adamlewis7599 2 жыл бұрын
I have an SP Nickel as a second gun, I find the general quality better than the Berretta from an engineering point of view, but they have been built on a budget. The cost comes from hardening in some of the parts and lower spec material in others, like walnut etc. I'm not big into a grade 4 look and prefer a custom painted stock, but each to his own. The barrels are great, The locking mechanism needs a bit of cleaning. They need a little cleaning up when you get them, but I'm 5000+ cartridges through mine now and compared to my DT11 and 682, it holds its own. The gun requires balancing, Easy! a decent set of chokes, I use extended Teal Chokes in it. I've patterned it along side the Berretta and there is no difference. It is a little heavier in feel than a 686 on first lift, but once balanced it isn't noticeable. If you get it fitted to you, you will hit clays all day long. I love my ATA as much as my DT11. If you're happy to put a couple of hours work in to tune it, don't turn it down! I actually purchased mine from Doug at OGC, lovely gent, likewise David (congrats on the recent wedding!). My 2p worth for the day! Happy Shooting!
@fullchoke01 2 жыл бұрын
Explain the engineering superiority of ata over any beretta? The geometry of the ata is nowhere near as precise as a beretta, the material hardness, the mid rib design which is a disaster in waiting long term, the lower breach face negative recess that means only 50% of the shell head is against the face, the metal to metal fit, i'm sorry but they are by no means anywhere near the quality of a 680 series gun, so not sure what you mean by engineering is better?
@adamlewis7599 2 жыл бұрын
@@fullchoke01 I'd read what I've put again and then read what you've put! Nowhere have I said its Superior! Nowhere do I compare or mention the design. I agree with some of your points. I've explained they're built on a budget and with every budget there is a cost cutting. This is not a £2k gun! Because of the industry 'i'm' in I've asked the same questions and have answered the questions enough. I have examined the metallurgy of a few parts, I have measured various components and compared to my old 682, I am still happy with my opinion. There is nothing to loose or gain here and no ulterior motives. I love Berretta's but not everyone starting out in the sport can afford one, hence why I purchased an ATA to see why so many gun snobs berate them. There is just no need! If you are paying the same money as that of a 686 you'd expect the quality to be the same, am I right? These guns will be past down to the next starter in the sport, who will haveconsolidation
@fullchoke01 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamlewis7599 your opening statement- i find the general quality better from an engineering point- which means you find it superior in engineering no?? I'm not saying people can't find good use in these guns but the corners that are cut are obvious
@adamlewis3068 2 жыл бұрын
@@fullchoke01 something can be well engineered but necessarily well refined! It doesn't have anything to do with Superiority! A Berretta is a very well refined gun but are still not without there problems! Sometimes it actually comes down to the person assembling the gun. Time will tell for sure.
@fullchoke01 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamlewis3068 i agree, but with the ata there are clear bad engineering designs that above and others ignore, the lower breach face for one , which is a very big one
@emastewart1323 2 жыл бұрын
I like the ata but I still prefer my yildiz but for the money I will take it
@uk.teenage.female.clay.shooter Жыл бұрын
I have the SP Nickel & Elegant Gold, very happy with both, now considering a Venza Sporter semi to add to my collection.
@randymch Жыл бұрын
If anything, this video has taught me how much I miss Wacaday.
@t595nige Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣...you miss Wacaday?
@bartmueller1730 Жыл бұрын
I own a 410 and a 20guage the 410 is awesome, especially for smaller birds and rabbits. The 20 isn't bad, but yes, only complaint is recoil.
@keithhaynes8079 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you David again.
@Pen15UK Жыл бұрын
Why do you say people would have it for a year and then sell it for a browning or beretta? What extra do you gain from having one of those other than having to pay more for them? Just admit that the ATA is a brilliant gun for the money and stop this snobbery that exists in the sport!
@peterbiix1207 Жыл бұрын
Quite right, and "Does recoil quite a bit" is nonsense, no it doesn't Thanks.
@peterbiix1207 Жыл бұрын
@@AdamsClayPigeonGuide Yes me too 🙂
@hovicbaltatjian2375 2 жыл бұрын
ATA Turkish beretta
@countryboy2329 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! When will you review a Krieghoff K80 Parcours? Will you review one at the game fair?
@oscarsundin5252 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos keep it up! I have a game version and in my experience it's a good starter gun. I also use it for clay shooting and have now shot around 10 000 shells in it. Things I've noticed is that it's starting to get a bit wobbly. But I can't recommend it for a hole day of clay shooting because it kicks alot. But for an entry-level gun it's Okey👍 greeting from Sweden!
@fareshussain8651 Жыл бұрын
Hej Jag vill fråga gärna om ata sp black adj Jag har tagit jägarexamen nytt och söker efter min första bössan. Jag är intresserad av lerduveskytte och fågeljakt. Dina tips tack 🙏
@wboy-bb5yn Жыл бұрын
No wobble in mine, use it often and only for clays, it’s flourless
@Jolly56Roger 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David. I saw a ATA Venza Fonex semi auto on gun trader looks really good ,have you seen one or tried one?
@timharvey5591 Жыл бұрын
I have one I love it
@matiasneira4625 3 ай бұрын
Can you do a video with AKKAR CHURCHILL 206 SPORTING please.
@tonymorgan3526 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and nice looking gun, was it fixed or multi choke?
@stevezephyr 2 жыл бұрын
I think all the ATA range are multi choke.
@tonymorgan3526 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevezephyr OK mate thanks for letting me know
@wboy-bb5yn Жыл бұрын
My first was ata, never gone wrong, I out shoot my friends with Barretta silver pigeons, that’s not down to the gun I know, I’ve used theirs and the only gripe with the ata compared to the Barretta sp is the ata when opening and closing isn’t as slick, that’s it! The ata has grade 3 walnut stock! The gun is literally amazing for the price!!!
@JonathanDerrett 2 жыл бұрын
I shot one of the sporters and thought it was very good for the money..... but they are just very good "for the money" unbeatable at this price in my mind but ultimately you get what you pay for. Agreed it is an exceptional starter gun but perhaps you would soon progress to a Beretta or a Browning etc. I decided to go straight for the obvious Browning 525s. Keep up the great videos David.
@azharshamim3399 Жыл бұрын
Shotguns imported into Pakistan are 5x times more expensive due to restrictions on import and duty. Here buying an ATA Sporter SP black which i bought without warranty that in third world countries are non-existent is a big risk. Initially it creaked and strained to break open, i used all sorts of oil after a overnight stand the wood support infront got saturated with oil and noise stopped and break action got good. I was tricked by distributor that it has a comb adjuster, it did not have. I am 5’9” tall and find front bead almost invisible while sighting si i attached a Viz High glow magnetic mount. Shot 50 shells on Clays using proper chokes result inferior to Beretta Semi Auto 303 but a good gun, no rusr, chokes well marked, clean, recoil good, break action may get better with more use
@azfarjl Жыл бұрын
Hi, I am also from Pakistan. From where did you buy this and would you recommend this as i am also looking for one for skeet and trap shooting.
@harleyquinn6774 2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you could just comment further on the comment about the comb height? "not stupidly low....not ridiculously high!" I'm not sure if that means it's higher than ideal or lower.
@andrewmorris5213 2 жыл бұрын
Any possibility that could review the new Kofs Zenith In the near future ? I’d like to know your thoughts on the Kofs as it’s a very similar gun and price point to the ATA SP
@lucastolson3570 2 жыл бұрын
my club has the sp supersport ata for rental guns. they have some issues with doubling most likely from a dirty action or possibly wear. they look impressive but I recommend only for a starter gun also
@fullchoke01 2 жыл бұрын
They are a decent starter gun/short time investment for those who don't trust or know enough about older guns when comparing what is around for same price, i would avoid one long term/high volume shooting, few design flaws that could cause some big dramas later in life
@chriscoss28 2 жыл бұрын
David I’m thinking of changing guns upgrading just my current Guerini has an adjustable stock and which I’ve raised maybe 10mm. Where I’m buying the new gun there saying buy a high rib instead of a low rib sporter on the new Guerini I’m a little sceptical and don’t know anything about high rib sporters can you do a video or help mate
@OliCM3 10 ай бұрын
Had my Supersport a year now after my ancient 686 gave up. Put around 10k through it, 0 issues, no sign of wear and since beating a whole load of expensive guns at my local sporting comp, no real desire to 'upgrade'.
@irfanjahangir8055 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have ATA was good budjet gun but common problem release lever gets stuck and stiff
@peterbiix1207 Жыл бұрын
Was it new?
@shooters99 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap Labour and Cheap Raw Material and long manufacturing history has the competitive edge to Turkish manufacturers, They made quality guns bcz of competitive edge. If ATA Doubles the prices, I bet their sale will also increase and than people will realize that how they missed the chance to buy quality guns for almost free.
@steveblack5952 5 ай бұрын
Ok nay sayers. I have had everything from remington to skb ,Franchi, Berreta. My daughter will have over 21,000 rounds through her Franchi side gate and not one problem. Do you need a 12,000 dollar shotgun? The answere is usually no unless your competing. My addvice is buy the best you can afford and along the way ask some folks along the way if you can try there gun. Youll be more exposed and find the fit for you. Get me an ATA ill test it.
@andycarless9069 2 жыл бұрын
Great Review Cheers 👍👍
@ZeldasGhost 22 күн бұрын
What makes a more expensive shotgun better than a cheap ish shotgun.. forgetting looks and finish etc. does an expensive gun make you a better shot?….. i dont think so
@specdel 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t a lot of felt recoil make it a poor choice for a starter gun?
@romanpanmei2647 5 ай бұрын
Where to buy? Plz send me a links
@azembadr4806 3 ай бұрын
fantastique ata
@arthurcurry850 8 ай бұрын
Prices are high in EU. I dont see the point in buying ATA if its an entry level brand. Some of the rifles are same cost as Benelli or Winchester.
@Trevtardius 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an ATA SP1 black adjustable a few years ago, mainly cuz im a leftie, and was hard to find used lefty 686's. Its a very straight gun, so i had to get it cast a lot, and added 12mm on the lengt and also had to get a guy at my job to turn some longer adjustment pins for the adjustable comb, it does not allow you to adjust it much without being wobbly. After all these changes the gun fits me okay. Would have loved to have an adjustable trigger, but its okay for me to do nordic trap with for 2 more years before i will need to move on to something that fits me better. I have had no mechanical issues sofar, after about 5000 shots, so cant complain about that! Would love some extended shokes for it though, anyone know if berretta chokes fit?
@damienjenkins4492 2 жыл бұрын
I know teal chokes do an ATA range for a very reasonable price - just debating on which colour for the extended ones for my Supersport
@Giblet16 2 жыл бұрын
Yep there mobil chokes
@timharvey5591 Жыл бұрын
I think your reviews are heavily swayed into what you are dealers for. If your not a dealer for it , Its no good.
@TSCTheshootingchannel Жыл бұрын
Just to clear this up the shooting channel do not sell guns.
@muhmmadarslanqayyumkhan7873 Жыл бұрын
Are ata better than bikal
@TSCTheshootingchannel Жыл бұрын
Yes, but if you are looking specifically for something Turkish, go towards a Yildiz
@twinpotracer 11 ай бұрын
To be honest, these are far better than crappy yildiz.
@douglasduet939 10 ай бұрын
Are these available in the US market?
@istorichunter8807 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@jimedray 4 ай бұрын
No they aren't. Ive been calling and looking and emailing for 2 years. And no one can get them in the us.
@hughmungus1509 Жыл бұрын
No you must buy a browning
@rogerdraycott3486 2 жыл бұрын
Its probably good because it's a Beretta copy !
@fullchoke01 2 жыл бұрын
Only in looks
@user-fq3vx4dr7v 2 жыл бұрын
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@richardsoto9493 2 жыл бұрын
Question does this presenter have a name 😳 I’ve have heard him called Mike & Dave , maybe he should be called PULL - 😜Rich
@harleyquinn6774 2 жыл бұрын
His name is David Florant, he is the son of Doug & Shirley Florent, the people that started the Oxford Gun Company all those years ago and I would assume David is a director and possibly the chief executive of that company. During some of the earlier videos the history of the company was explained.
@peterbiix1207 Жыл бұрын
Yes, his reall name is Mr. Thankstofiocchi Yildiz.
@harleyquinn6774 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
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