Doug demuro

@@thefreshprinceofAZdemure doesn’t even do reviews. All he cares about are looks and superficial stuff

Car Care Nut and SavageGeese (Mark & Jack). 1 thing in common; they’re both in Chicago!

@@alexandertebo4011 That explains a lot! 🙂

Way too far. The guys can’t get it there

I drive a CR-V Hybrid with the second, lower gear, and I have watched the power flow meter and the instant MPG gauge over the course of 4k miles. The gear indeed increases fuel economy, specifically at light load between certain speeds. What ends up happening when it is not "locked" is the engine has to rev a little higher to compensate for the efficiency losses inherent to turning a generator to power the battery that drives the car... might as well just go from gas engine directly to the wheels. Honda has it so when lightly accelerating it shifts into that gear at about 25 MPH, and you can hear the engine drop like an actual shift. Then at about 35 it unlocks because at that ratio it's no longer the most efficient way to power the wheels... which drops the engine RPMs, proving my point that at that speed the gear ratio is too low to be efficient... and then at 40 the revs drop again when the higher clutch engages. Only after pushing the pedal down about half throttle or higher does it then say "we need power NOW" and unlock ao the engine is free to scream as much as it needs to Having a gear though means, beyond a certain speed, you end up revving the engine too much because you're going too fast to be efficient in that gear, and Honda did an excellent job with figuring out at what thresholds it's better to go one way or the other, at a moment's notice. I rarely ever see it trip up.

@@scott8919 that just sounds like a stupid system.

@@kevinmcd112 Thinking so usually means you are thinking about it backwards. This isn't a gas car where the motor helps the engine, it is an EV where the electricity comes from a generator and a battery. The disadvantage - which is less than most think - is that you have to convert twice between mechanical and electrical power, when you could have just changed the rpm with a transmission. The advantage is that you can keep the engine near 2000 rpm and 34 HP, where it is most efficient, almost all of the time it runs. Not even Toyota's PSD can keep it that efficient, although part of that is because they use a smaller motor and a larger ICE. The reason for what you may think is "stupid" is that if you have a narrow range of speeds where you can count on it staying there, you can link the engine directly and get rid of even more loss.

@@jeffjo8732 so you're saying it's like the guy driving a tesla with the gas generator in the trunk. It doesn't make sense. The gas engine is always running and revs as it would if it was driving the car and gets literally the same gas mileage as the 1.5L turbo from the 10th gen Accord sport. This car is Honda's hint at going "full electric" to please the planet and save us all from the sun monster. It's stupid because this would-be "electric car" burns just as much gas as its gas-powered siblings. I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it. Electric vehicles are unsustainable.

@@kevinmcd112 "You're saying it's like the guy driving a tesla with the gas generator in the trunk. It doesn't make sense." Well, minus that huge, heavy, expensive battery. But you have ti take it seriously for it to make sense, and I don't see you doing that. "The gas engine is always running ..." Whoever said that hasn't driven it. Here's some data on its cousin: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bM2co72Ft7qaoXk.html "... and revs as it would if it was driving the car..." Sorry, another lie. "... and gets lite rally the same gas mileage as the 1.5L turbo from the 10th gen Accord sport." Over 60K miles and five years, I've averaged 48 mpg.

I think you nailed it. 👍

Its good on gas because its crap. Plastic in all the critical areas to save weight means its crap car it gets good mpg because its crap. By the time its 15 years old youll probably have replaced half of it

@TheAnnoyingBoss I think its good on gas becauuuse its a hybrid? Maybe thats it. You definitely show your education on cars and how you got no say. Why be so butt hurt over this car is weird to begin with

It’s good on gas because it’s slow. And too damn generic looking.

car is okay i miss the coupes accords :( i going find me a used one hehe

Toyota has been using the name for the Prius and all of their hybrid trims for years, and they still have year+ waiting lists.

You are right, it is stupid. I found a youtube channel where they explained and displayed this transmission. At the time I understood how it all worked. Anyway, it is not a CV. Honda has invented a completely new way of causing the transmission to change gears and its all gearing.

My thoughts exactly in re the ill-advised eCVT name. You nailed it. Since it isn't a CVT and CVT's have a bad reputation, come up with a different label. Distance yourself from the whole CVT thing.

@@FunkatronicDingus not on the crown , got my limited within in a week , dealers were stack with them

It is basically electrical motor driven which by function is electrical CVT untill the ICE cuts in.

Did you get tax savings / rebate?

I believe it qualifies for a half a credit as some parts are chinese in origin

loving the AC vents in the backseats :)

When I was shopping for a new Accord in 2016, I wanted to get a hybrid…..Do you know that Honda was charging $45,000 for one back in 2016! I went for the ICE 2.4L, which has plenty of power and good fuel economy….now hybrids and ICE versions are basically the same price. I would be very angry if I bought a 2016 Honda Accord Hybrid for $45,000 in 2016 and then saw Honda drop the price on hybrids. I got mine for $27,000 including destination, taxes and $1,500 Honda sensing safety option through Costco car buying program.

What do you love about it?

@@danjenkins2064probably the smoothness of it when driving. I own a vehicle with gas cvt and it just runs smooth, but no worries I will be doing a KZfaq channel video on CVT transmission with my vehicle in 2025 when I do a 5 year review on it

@@alvinsimba734 Thanks for the response.

Are the seats comfortable? I hear their harsh on long hauls if you have back issues? 🤔

@@nastynati3501I drive 3 hours one-way about every other weekend and I never had an issue with comfort. I’m also 25 and never have back issues so probably not your best opinion

Be honest how many times did you need trivial service from the dealership?

The Accord as said in the video is great for the older generation 36:17

The turbo cars are having problems blowing head gaskets.

Hope you got the 2L Turbo and not the 1.5L

@@davidsteckley8846 2.0L...yep. Smooth and gas sipping. I ahve a total of approx. 1300 miles thus far and my average per tank is around 42 MPG.

Or even a cross tour version

​@@kevinc2332 Crooss Tour Hatch w/AWD

Haha easy to wash in other words it's a brick

@@ij6708 No? Its streamlined?

​@@ij6708where do you see round bricks, retard?

It looks like a pouting beaver, not great.

I like the 10th gen better, but this new gen looks less like an old Ford Taurus when you see them in the wild.

I hated it at first but had the same exact experience and I love them now. Haven't driven one (current DD is a 22 Mazda CX9) but damn I like how nondescript and relaxed the new Accord looks.

Having bought the 2023 Accord and now out of town driving a rental 2024 Camry I’m so grateful for the simplistic UI of my Accord. The Camry’s seems much more outdated and cluttered by comparison (only thing I like better in the Camry is the physical speedometer/tachometer)

The top of the line models look a lot better.. The l x model it's too base

Honda was dedicated their effort to making the Accord strictly a personal transportation appliance by getting rid of every feature which attracts any sort of auto enthusiasm.

I bought a '21 for looks, partly. The new generation stands out a lot less from other sedans -- the few that are left on the market.

It never did Volkswagen any harm, either. By Keeping their design ergonomics neat, and robust, they shift zillions!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually liked the older Accords for looks.

And to claim the overwrought styling of the Camry looks better is laughable. I actually prefer the Camry looks (exterior) to the 10th generation Accord…and we’re talking top trims for both. But the Camry is dated.

It’s not just Honda. Nothing is affordable anymore.

I kind of agree with you Jimmyortiz4319. 40K for touring like any others as @Noahkinz has said it what the problem is in our country. Plus the maintenance for all these new Turbo Hybrids is going to cost more. I have a 2017 Honda Accord touring V6 that I paid 29K new for it and love it. It’s also cheaper to maintain. My oil change and tire rotation was $89. My neighbor has the new touring and got the same service for $211 from the same dealership i went to. He was shocked.

I just bought a 24 touring, got a great trade in offer on my 14 ex accord. So far this new car has been amazing, got financed at 3.9% and should be paid off in 3 years.

Nissan is

The strange thing is that ¥ is at all time low against $... Should mean cheaper Japanese items? 🤔

I respectfully disagree...

nope, the civic touring is the way better buy

Exactly. Honda went to German looks, instead of boy racer.

@@jr1885Honda only had the boy racer look in 10th gen civic and accord (in North America at least). Otherwise, their cars have always been understated

It looks like a damn sausage, wtf Honda? Maybe those slanted Japanese eyes distorted the engineers view and they thought this looks good who knows?

Agreed. Previous gen was sharper looking design.

I hated the 10th gen when it first came out. The rear wasn't my cup of tea at all. Then it really started to grow on me. Now I even like the 'stapler' tail lights. The 11th gen is following a similar path for me.. Honda has some kind of black magic going on that causes me to hate their designs at first but then fall in love with them.

Idk, I really hated how the last gen Accord looked, just didn't feel cohesive. The one before it looked incredible, and still looks modern today. Likewise the Camry is over stylized. Like they tried to go aggressive, but then aborted mission halfway through

but if you are going down in size I think the mazda 3 is best in class

So the ex-l gets better mpg then the hybrid?

@@dnegel9546 - - the EX-L is a hybrid...

He might be the best car reviewer on KZfaq, because he understands motors, transmissions, suspensions and serviceability.

@@solderbuff I find Scotty Kilmer is good as well and I enjoy he and AMD for the knowledge the impart from an end repair perspective with concern for costs.

Amen!!!

2013 accord sport mt is a joy to drive in 2024

Alright then. Go get yourself one of those Accords and spare your time from watching these! 🥳🥳

Rather complicated!

Actually the review I needed to see xD

ayo 0.0

You probably ought to get a new car, too.

How do you drive? I mainly drive 75mph on highway and I get 39mpg. We have the same car btw

@@Mandawg69 Speed is your issue :( If you would drive slower, the MPGs would get better :)

75mph is the problem. You are encountering a lot of drag. Anything over 65ish, your fuel economy will suffer

@@Mandawg69 The Touring with the 19-inch wheels is rated at 41mpg highway, which is not far off your 39mpg. I have the EX-L Hybrid with the smaller 17-inch wheels, and its rated at 44mpg highway. I do 99% highway miles at 75+ mph, and I'm at 42.2-43mpg after 4,000 miles. I would probably get higher mpg if I slow down a bit but I'm in a hurry most of the time, lol

Did u purchase the spare kit from the dealership?

do they have torque convert

@@sivucit no

but the Sport-L looks much better

​​@@angusp5515 no rear seat vents in the Sport-L tho

@@angusp5515 As far as appearance, the Sport-L is the sharpest trim and that's why I bought it. But for the price it lacks quite a lot of small things that the EX-L includes, so had I done it over again I may have opted for the EX-L and then maybe added some of the black accents.

The ex l version is the one recommended by consumer reports because of the smaller tires and smoother ride.

@@shojus I'd agree with you. I have a 2020 Accord Touring, but if I were to buy a 2024 I'd go with the EX-L just because of the 17" wheels. That along with being a hybrid should make for a super quiet and comfortable ride.

Honda currently has millions of vehicles with recalls they cannot repair. Quality has certainly gone down. I own a 2006 V6 Coupe and I have not spent one dollar on non-maintenance repair items. Those days may be behind us.

I agree with u that older Hondas are way better than the new ones​@ld4974

​@@dcal4455 All old cars are better than the ones we have now. They only had to make an engine and that's it, the interior had no screens and the radio you could take out whenever you wanted for another one

@@ld4974 You speak as if Toyota and Nissan hasn't done any major recalls in the past 10-15 years. From what I can see, any manufacturer can do a big fuckup. Buy what you want and keep what you love, that's all.

@@luanphan2706 The fact is that Honda has millions of vehicles under recall currently with no remedy available. Toyota does not.

I think the exterior looks awesome especially all black

The exterior design is the only reason I purchased the Honda Accord. I was going to but a Camry or Malibu until the 2023 design came out.

because you can get a 330 m sport or a lexus or just get a 2.0 10th touring, these cars wont age well 2nd hand which is honda key market

@@bigpapi88 what? You’re comparing it to cars from a totally different segment of the market. Those start at 10k dollars more expensive than the accord hybrid. And the 10th generation is beautiful I’ll give you that, but if you watched the whole video, I think i should be happy with my purchase.

This new one is both DI and MFPI.

Negative. New one is DI only, as stated in this vid.

I still drive my 98 accord 2.3 L

The rear is fugly. The prior gen accord was better in every way for exterior style. I would rather have previous model style

I think they made this more bland because to boost new Acura model Sales …just my guess

It uses the third generation of this system. The Accord in th review uses the fourth. The differences? Minor tweaks to the engine and motors, which made the engines bigger. That required them to move the position of the generator in the transaxle.

How many miles on the 2018 accord?

How could you "love" a car with so many issues? If it were me, I would acknowledge that it was a POS and do what you did - get rid of it.

@@richardepstein3494 seems like either you abused that 2018 Accord or did not service it on time.

I have 2019 Honda Accord and I have zero issues with it

​​@@angusp5515or its just crap junk you ever thought about that one dummy? I can tell theyre crap and junk. They used to make them way better and they still werent that great coulda been better with very few simple tweaks but they tweak it the wrong way you end up with plastic valve covere plastic seat gears plastic all over a zillion sensors the screen yells at you "subscribe or i wont comply" the headlights are plastic the chrome is taped on. Are you sure its not just a peice of junk with slave mandatory water based paint and fake shifting to make its crap transmission seem "normal?"

Doesn't the rav hybrid tow 2500?

@@jaeNeck Honda might be making the claim with a technicality, as the RAV4's tow rating may only be for the AWD system that has 3 motors (1 in the rear), or they may be referring to the CR-V having a series hybrid system vs. the RAV4's parallel eCVT.

How’s the cvt drone 😂

@@dontworryaboutwhoiam456I have a cvt. I don’t really give it the beans much so not much drone at all. Nice and smooth

this system is completely different from the 18-22s. Honda literally reinvented the hybrid with this generation. I can't stress enough how awesome this powertrain is. Its truly amazing.

@@dontworryaboutwhoiam456 I guess quiet compared to other cars? Idk what answer you looking for.

Good luck with carbon buildup due to direct injection

I think Honda recognizes that the enthusiast segment is shrinking for midsize sedans and that most people still in the midsized market are looking for a competent commuter instead of a fun car.

@@DaveDDD agreed. the vast majority of consumers are just looking for an efficient transportation pod, and the new Accord delivers that.

Had the same experience although my current car is a 2007 Honda Accord EXL V6. I know that Consumer Reports loved it but you are right about the acceleration. Also the seats were way too thin.

@@Cap683somehow it had the most interior space of any sedan that size.

I liked the interior and enjoyed the heated front seats

​@@plasmatvforgaming9648 was it gas or hybrid?

​@@uiumGas. The 1.5 turbo

Its not slow. The hybrid is faster than the ICE engine car

@@larryordine7542I think they meant it accelerates slower than an electric car, which is pretty fair. The hybrid Accord seems to be made to chew up long distances in comfort rather than short sprints, and that’s where it shines.

@@larryordine7542 they are both slower than the V6 Camry. I bet new gen Camry will be faster

Tinny? Really lmaoooo

Who cares

Its like they did a classic appeal with a refresh. Bold. Mature. Reliable. I dig it.

About 1/2 the mpg in the city as this one though

Even Scotty Kilmer is saying the Honda may be the better of the two.

Hes a mechanic. You want all that then watch a review not a mechanical break down

@@mileshodge3477 it was just a suggestion. I would value his opinion on that as much as his opinion on the styling.

better resale value for the Accord and the smoother system makes up for a slight mpg difference

In regard to the paint of the vehicle. Take photos and call honda directly…. They are able to help you out if you show its within the vehicles warranty period.

If only Mazda 6 was available in Canada... 😢

I’m still in love with my Civic Type R. Mazda 6 is the new Mercury Sable Lol

Your Type R is fun, but the Mazda 6 is fun as it is luxurious :) I want torque, ventilated seats, road feels, and nice handling. The mercury sable is a refrigerator with wheels. A better comparison based on design would be the Maserati Quattroporte, but the Mazda is reliable LOL