Should You Grind For The Su-27 Flanker..?

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@Tentacl 5 ай бұрын

This cammo is gorgeous...

@Billy_shears 5 ай бұрын

I am using it too and i love it, i also modified a blue afterburner in and it looks even awesomer

@user-mi4yf5bh2s 5 ай бұрын

@@Billy_shears а где его взять? На бирже гайджин?

@igor3723 5 ай бұрын

@@user-mi4yf5bh2sглянь WT live

@nikolasjacimovic4792 5 ай бұрын

@@user-mi4yf5bh2s i think its a modded skin

@ligma-balls9252 5 ай бұрын

@@user-mi4yf5bh2sprobably warthunder live, search «warthunder user skins» on KZfaq

@Boris_The_Turtle 5 ай бұрын

4:32 Struck a cord with me. It convinced me to not waste time and effort grinding any of the shiny new aircraft. The Su-27 is one of my favorite aircraft, but there really isn’t any point to getting it if the gameplay is bad and will get worse.

@RedFail1-1 5 ай бұрын

Same reason I haven't bothered with the F-15. I knew Gaijin would make it crap, so I never got my hopes up.

@hemendraravi4787 5 ай бұрын

It’s significantly better than the smt expect in terms of radar n rwr but I gets better performance and way more missiles

@surgetsann 5 ай бұрын

maybe it will get better, but my experience in the J-11 it has felt incredibly "floaty" and is very hard to point the nose in a straight line while maneuvering. Honestly the J-8F I researched it with felt much better performance wise. it really feels like they got everything ass backwards on the two front runner aircraft this patch. I'm mostly stock still, only just now getting rank 3 unlocked in the modifications. I really wish I could try dog fighting it at high altitude, but it's air rb, so no one does that.

@brodykloster2102 5 ай бұрын

Imo after flying the flanker for a while, I think the airframe is pretty good, is it as good as in dcs, not even close, but it’s fast, turns well, and has a solid acceleration, and pulls aoa to avoid people’s guns, it has good high speed energy retention but the lower speed bleeds it all, but you can use that to ur advantage by making someone overshoot and use an r73

@ferrous3262 5 ай бұрын

its speed kinda kills its clutch ability in late game

@icantsleepman 5 ай бұрын

AoA can work both ways unfortunately making you much easier to hit with it's massive airframe

@mr_confuse 5 ай бұрын

@@ferrous3262I was struggling HARD in a 1v2 against two MiG 23MLs. I didn't have the engine mods, but still. Only reason I won was the R27ER and their incompetence. Holy hell, the flanker needs an actual toggleable AoA/fly by wire system.

@VanityOrdies 5 ай бұрын

i mean with ten missiles and an usable airframe if you don't try to furball it's probably by far the best top tier plane in the game rn, f16c/gripen can both be good, but if all they carry is 6x 6m's compared to 6 er's.

@TeterPiago123 4 ай бұрын

but once your below mack 1, like 900 or so, the energy bleeds out really badly

@mattin5850 5 ай бұрын

F-15 and su-27 will be redundant since neither can get fox 3, so the moment ( next or update after next one) you will have to grind another 400k+ rp to get them... only semi safe option is the grippen

@11Tits 5 ай бұрын

Lucky the F-16C and D can get the aim120s the D version is called the barak II in the israeli tree

@user-jy6cn3jy8g 5 ай бұрын

@@11Titsand probably 29SMT will become kinda good with its R-77s

@KneedsItsGat 4 ай бұрын

@@11TitsI’m rocking with the block 50 babyyyyyy

@rickdubbink 5 ай бұрын

I got lucky as hell and won a talisman on this thing 20 matches in. But i hate it, once you get slow you're F'd

@missilemans6688 5 ай бұрын

Played on both the F-15 and the Su-27. The Su-27 is WAY better in air rb, because of the insane amount of great missiles combined with the HMD and maneuverability, it actually made me have quite some fun in top tier. Playing the F-15 just felt like playing a brick, the F-16C is better than it IMO. The Su-27 is very well worth grinding.

@harbour2118 4 ай бұрын

I pray this comment doesn’t get flamed by people who spam “F-15 is better in every way, Russian tech sucks” even though this is just a game

@harbour2118 3 ай бұрын

@@Nobody19-eh6sz yeah irl, so just suspend disbelief for this cuz its a game

@KhanAitmatov2033 5 ай бұрын

I’d have to check but I’m pretty sure this variant of the flanker can fire the fox three R27EA, in addition the F 15 we have in game couldn’t use AIM 120s to its full advantage due to its radar

@hemendraravi4787 5 ай бұрын

But the real question is ,weather the r27ea is real or not , most say that it was a paper missile and there isn’t even a prototype of it

@KneedsItsGat 4 ай бұрын

If I’m correct the weird cherry picked version F-15a we have here in game is supposed to be have the msip upgrade due to its ability to carry flares. And that version had a better radar and the ability to carry the first version of the AMRAAM. Therefor they it shouldve been given it. But gaijin being gaijin would make their own rules and make us wait to grind for the f-15c in order to get them

@hemendraravi4787 4 ай бұрын

@@KneedsItsGat not really apparently not all of them got it or it's still unknown for sure.

@KneedsItsGat 4 ай бұрын

@@hemendraravi4787 well what I do know was there was the capability of a certain version of the f-15a having the capability of using AMRAAMs. And I’m pretty sure it was the msip which is the version we have in the game rn

@waltuh-Ag 5 ай бұрын

The range for the HMD Radar Lock is at 10km Just keep that in mind when trying to Engage someone

@vogavation 5 ай бұрын

if youre close enough to need hmd the 10km limit doesnt matter

@waltuh-Ag 4 ай бұрын

@@vogavation He tried to Lock onto 20+km Targets with the HMD several times

@ItzCPU_ 4 ай бұрын

1:57 Aim54 stares

@MarkDrisch 5 ай бұрын

thank god somebody did a real review of this plane. Not just "OMG BEST JET EVER 10 MISSILES!". The radar on this thing is TRASH and really holds the plane back. I don't even bring a full missile load anymore, that's how bad the ERs in combination with this radar are.

@agnostos6378 5 ай бұрын

Arent the radars bugged rn? Ive been noticing some weird stuff on the m29SMT as well

@jordanharvey5739 5 ай бұрын

This radar holds locks just fine when using the right mode. All the other issues seem to be bugs from the patch

@diegoabarca6111 5 ай бұрын

@@jordanharvey5739 and What Mode did you use?

@jordanharvey5739 5 ай бұрын

@@diegoabarca6111 PD HDN if they’re coming straight at me, normal PD if they start to crank or are within 15km

@Bogdan4ickLive 4 ай бұрын

Where do you get this camouflage

@No1harris_98 5 ай бұрын

I honestly love the flankers, so glad to finally see one in game and actually play it.

@yureinobbie68 5 ай бұрын

Seems like the youtube algorithm does some perfect commercial matching. Just got a commercial for Warthunder update 1.91 (Night Vision) highlighting the F4-C after you talked about the golden age that was Phantom dominance. Not sure how to put flank and spank in that sentence naturally ;)

@carlomendoza6173 5 ай бұрын

Will you do a video for the Gripen?

@SuperBKDK 5 ай бұрын

You just know this thing is an err to err beast

@wifi_soldier5076 2 ай бұрын

Can you do a review on the French Tiger HAD block 2?

@AsianKnacks Ай бұрын

Im currently grinding out the US Tech Tree just to fly out the top tier planes in simulator

@GideonBowlesProductions 5 ай бұрын

I don’t understand why everybody says it’s radar is bad, I’ll have people turn completely away from me 90° try to notch and I never lose lock, I like it more than every other radar in the game.

@ferrous3262 5 ай бұрын

cap

@M0LOCK 5 ай бұрын

Mu dude now you got the trophy for the biggest lie of the year...

@namelesscrow9351 4 ай бұрын

Imagine this, the Gripen and the Eagle with no stock CM😂

@aquafire_yt6247 5 ай бұрын

How to get this camo?

@IckyStickyOils 5 ай бұрын

thanks gayjin for hyping everyone in dev test to deliver a missel buss that gets out turned by an f15 then nerfing it lol then ofc giving a 4th gen aircraft at 12.3

@rastohurray4945 5 ай бұрын

To be honest, most people just say its bad...yet you ve taken it the other was and made some good points...nice one..cheers.

@chrismeador685 5 ай бұрын

Flank and spank...I'm with you sako top air realistic is stale I'll stick to clubbing on top ground as well I love your honest reviews ty

@nyde7705 Ай бұрын

If you can do it before fox 3s, 100% yes

@Gian-Luca006 5 ай бұрын

Can anyone help me, is the Mig29SMT or SU27 now a better option🥴

@Migthunder 2 ай бұрын

Su27 easily 😂

@RedFail1-1 5 ай бұрын

It uses the same radar as the MiG-29 so...

@user-jy6cn3jy8g 5 ай бұрын

MiG-29 has N019 Rubin(Ruby) radar, Su-27 has N001 Mech(Sword) radar

@denbleygv9238 5 ай бұрын

flank'nspank homie.

@TrampMachine 5 ай бұрын

It's a shame, I'd much rather they take away a couple pylons and give it a better FM. I'm no expert but I've played quite a bit of DCS which I'd hazzard a guess and say is much closer to the actual flight performance of the jet and say that an SU-27 should be able to keep in a dog fight much longer. Better sustained turn, or rate or whatever. Watching DCS vids if I remember right it has worse sustained turn than an F16 ut not by a huge margin. Maybe I'm wrong but current Su-27 in WT kinda sucks to dogfight in.

@jordanharvey5739 5 ай бұрын

The 10 missiles are what makes this thing the best top tier aircraft. The issue with the flight model is just that most people pull as hard as possible for any turn because the instructor lets them. Tap that W button and keep your speed up

@TrampMachine 5 ай бұрын

@@jordanharvey5739 Nah, it still rates like shit. You can bring your nose around fast but if you wanna keep at speed you're gonna be making a wide turn and by the time you even get your hmd on the guy he'll be you'll be staring at a missle to the face.

@jordanharvey5739 5 ай бұрын

@@TrampMachine rates not gonna beat a viper or eagle but it’s not bad. With the archers I’d much rather have that nose authority anyways. There’s a reason 4-5 kill games in this monster are a piece of cake

@gasparferrandisromero1075 5 ай бұрын

@@jordanharvey5739 go play DCS and then speak about this

@jordanharvey5739 5 ай бұрын

@@gasparferrandisromero1075 I play the hell out of DCS and that’s not relevant here at all. Two totally different beasts

@airlightshockZOV 5 ай бұрын

As much as this guy is good at reviews, he is a heavy westard

@ferrous3262 5 ай бұрын

yea the west really isn't any better than Russia or china

@SummaryNine26 4 ай бұрын

you are talking about how the radar is bad when you are trying to shoot at someone skimming the ground at 15km and notching, ANY radar is gonna struggle with that

@log1125 5 ай бұрын

finally someone with a realistic take on

@rflewelling1002 5 ай бұрын

Short answer is yes.. Same for the long answer...

@mathewtheis9139 5 ай бұрын

Mirage f1c 200….. bruh, 2 magics, 2 gun pods…. Su-27 is my chew toy…. Those players already rely on there kit, totally unaware %90 of the time.

@bobdole6768 5 ай бұрын

can confirm the radar sucks hard

@oz314 7 күн бұрын

Man, is this a American mains forum post you are reading from or something?

@YoRHaUnit2Babe 5 ай бұрын

that camo aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

@bobtheshark4789 5 ай бұрын

It’s a w grind it’s completely useless in ground rb tho it’s a completely shit show not only do u got spaa up u got helicopters that will easily kick ur ass with man pads shits so annoying air rb it’s okay but the 16v16 shit is so annoying they honestly need to rework ground rb and air rb entirely before they keep adding more shit

@kehreazerith3016 5 ай бұрын

This Su27 variant is an air superiority fighter, it's not designed for CAS so it will not be good for air to ground attacks. Air RB is a mess and does need a rework, even more than ground RB

@thatoneguy1741 5 ай бұрын

Good thing it wasn’t designed for cas

@WipeZZu 5 ай бұрын

Also RWR is bad. It does not know whats locking on you and it does not work for J-band

@allskillnoluck7734 5 ай бұрын

As you say, I think people play air rb just to unlock new planes but it's boring. The grind is awful. I prefer play ground RB. And flank and spank

@nwolfmix2180 2 ай бұрын

why do you say "air" that way ☠

@patrickwelch365 5 ай бұрын

The R73 in my opinion is harder to dodge than an aim 9m at around 2km because of the closing seeker head of the r73

@ivanjerginov1729 5 ай бұрын

Fox 3 missiles have been in the game for a while man. Do people just forget the Pheonix existed?

@thatoneguy1741 11 күн бұрын

Fox 3s for another nations not just the US , way better then the phoenix which is for US only, everyone says this smh

@ivanjerginov1729 11 күн бұрын

@@thatoneguy1741 Blud I made this comment 4 months ago.

@mightywolf4047 5 ай бұрын

Flank and Spank

@RybakSix 5 ай бұрын

Flank and spank - lol

@ferrous3262 5 ай бұрын

5:01 gaijin should allow people to be racist getting ban from game chat because I want to be edgy is a crime

@aniketdaptardar1 5 ай бұрын

I spaded the Su27 yesterday and your review is to the point. This plane is kinda ok but definitely not worth the hype.

@mab2187 5 ай бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the belly mounted missiles can also be ET's but Gaijin knows ET's are strong so they are limiting it.

@SomewhatSummarized 5 ай бұрын

It cannot, the belly pylons are only radar missile capable

@hemendraravi4787 5 ай бұрын

Belly pylons can’t mount r27et as it would block the missiles field of view

@__Gum__ 5 ай бұрын

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

@thepro08 5 ай бұрын

when i face the reality of the numbers of hours, silver lions and exp do even play this jet...... the only rational solution is to uninstall the game. and thats what i did. theres no point to play a game when you always on a inferior jet and have to give away your life just to be even.

@D4nger_CLO5E 5 ай бұрын

Lord love a duck 🤦....set up manual radar controls so you don't pull your hair out 🤣

@Likeaworm 5 ай бұрын

Honestly I like my smt better

@IIThunderbirdII Ай бұрын

tbh ur pretty bad at using your radar missiles, you shot waaaayyy to many at ppl already low to the ground and just wasted most of them

@Mr.Crow1984 5 ай бұрын

1:50 what all this history means is that gajin gave the us a 1976 aircraft, while russia gets a brand new 1990 fighter. I want my amraams dammit i want something that doesnt have win ratio of 30%

@sanmiguel4774 5 ай бұрын

@hemendraravi4787 5 ай бұрын

Aim7m is 1983 lmao

@hemendraravi4787 5 ай бұрын

Also brand new won’t mean much , u get 1991 f15 for Andaman , Russia gets 1994 su27 or 1996 su37 (with 3d thrust vectoring) lol

@Mr.Crow1984 5 ай бұрын

@@hemendraravi4787 brother i just finnished grinding all upgrades and it downed on me how old the f15a is. Dam thing still usses gbu-8 at 12.3.

@Pupixario 5 ай бұрын

10:30 what the actual....

@gasparferrandisromero1075 5 ай бұрын

well, 9M does shit like this too in its other strength

@hemendraravi4787 5 ай бұрын

That’s tvc for ya

@AiRbU380 5 ай бұрын

6th comment YAYAYAYAYAYYAY

@thefiskgoose9266 5 ай бұрын

ör to ör capabilities in ör realistik

@annguyenlehoang7779 5 ай бұрын

no . anyone who grind for Su-27 is Putin lover :x (just kidding)

@SargeNuR 5 ай бұрын

then that's another reason to grind it

@Respawndierepeat 5 ай бұрын

Mirage 4000k on top 🗣️🗣️

@ferrous3262 5 ай бұрын

nah the gorilla gripper is on top

@141menace 5 ай бұрын

ah yes 4000k

@Migthunder 5 ай бұрын

Flanker is underperforming

@nicholasleon7819 5 ай бұрын

flank n spank baby defending top tier air rb is massive cope. maybe top tier air arcade is the way to go now lol