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These Builds Are Questionable | Darkest Dungeon 2

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ShuffleFM

ShuffleFM

Жыл бұрын

In this video, I react to an article claiming to have the best builds for DD2 heroes. The answers will surprise you in both good and bad ways and hopefully we all learn something from this. It's a long one so I apologize about that. Lots of content to chew on :P
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@user-iu4jl6cg4n
@user-iu4jl6cg4n Жыл бұрын
"Occultists enormous healing potential" Shows a screenshot with a heal for 6 (which is probably undone by bleeding in the next 2 rounds)
@oniuserjh
@oniuserjh Жыл бұрын
Trying to heal with occultist is an irl stress nuke in my experience
@Czesnek
@Czesnek Жыл бұрын
@@oniuserjh teeth grinding experience
@alx2903
@alx2903 Жыл бұрын
i still dont get it. In dd1 0heal and bleed was a meme, but we was able to run from dugneon after big fails. And we was able heal without hp rrequirements. In dd2 same properties of ability, but now we have health requirements, below 33%. Thats insane risk, im better will choose character with 10% heal but guaranteed.
@Greedsmith
@Greedsmith Жыл бұрын
0:51 Flagellant 4:32 Occultist 12:30 Grave Robber 18:56 Bounty Hunter 22:14 Runaway 26:34 Leper 34:24 Hellion 43:27 Jester 48:04 Heighwayman 53:18 Plague Doctor 58:41 Man-At-Arms 1:03:28 Vestal It might be a bit of a late comment, but I’d appreciate it if you guys liked it so that more people could see it. 👍 Shuffle, if you read this could you maybe give this comment a pin? I would really appreciate it. 🙏
@NotBamOrBing
@NotBamOrBing Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I know how they came to that conclusion about Monarch: They read the words "On combat start" as "apply the following effects to the Leper for one turn", and missed the "Cosmic" as a requirement for it to go off.
@murkel7634
@murkel7634 Жыл бұрын
At this point my head canon is that they make these specifically for you to react to these. (But they are likely just semi AI generated)
@madMILL3R
@madMILL3R Жыл бұрын
Nah even the most primitive chat AI can come off smarter than the average game journalist. They likely hate AI because it's certainly coming for their job next.
@TheHodeman
@TheHodeman Жыл бұрын
I wish my feelings while watching this video were AI generated.
@bearmanguy
@bearmanguy Жыл бұрын
My bet is they looked up "best builds" on some forum and transcribed the consensus
@TheHodeman
@TheHodeman Жыл бұрын
@@bearmanguy I can assure you I did not do that. If I had, I'd probably be getting a TON less blowback. This was from my personal experience with the game, both in early access and then adjusting for the 1.0 release.
@bearmanguy
@bearmanguy Жыл бұрын
@@TheHodeman props to you for actually taking part in the community 👏. Much respect Anything that you disagree with shuffle on even after his breakdown/critique of your article? Anything eye opening for you?
@level100derp7
@level100derp7 Жыл бұрын
The Hellion article awoke a primordial emotion in me that has not been felt by any human being in millennia. I no longer fear death, for I have game journalism to instill a new fear in my withered heart Also the lack of proofreading in the articles is annoying
@dokkabaerpg7896
@dokkabaerpg7896 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way
@boatman4235
@boatman4235 Жыл бұрын
5:48 i remember me combining fade to black+ with sacrifical stab+ to hopefully kill the enemy and get 2 unchecked power tokens
@alx2903
@alx2903 Жыл бұрын
occultist is a token generator that actually needs another token generator)
@shadowdragon1396
@shadowdragon1396 Жыл бұрын
I just started, and I see his Flagellant build is a certifiable B grade, but still has the gall to put him in last place. If you’re doing that poorly with Flag, with that build, that truly is just a skill issue.
@thegamer9302
@thegamer9302 Жыл бұрын
Flagelant was the only survivor of my mountain boss fight not only dat he had above half health
@schematicace8468
@schematicace8468 Жыл бұрын
Never read something so true
@OmniPeasant
@OmniPeasant Жыл бұрын
Random dude creates a comp without GR ShuffleFM: Questionable.
@Holidoll
@Holidoll Жыл бұрын
mans dropped an hour long video about someone's flawed logic build recommendations this video boutta go dummy hard
@nayeem455
@nayeem455 Жыл бұрын
What that Vestal build needs is Laudanum instead to heal all that stress from passing her turn 🙃
@ShuffleFM
@ShuffleFM Жыл бұрын
True!
@lazerax9
@lazerax9 Жыл бұрын
Occultist section reminded me that Occultists should REALLY be able to resist the burns from unchecked power like runaway and hellion can resist DoTs from their paths. (Or just get rid of the burn lol, occultist is weak enough as is) Please Redhook 🙏
@chainer8686
@chainer8686 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised that unchecked power burn could not be resisted. It's not terrible, but I figured that an Occultist should get a chance to resist.
@eleventy7
@eleventy7 Жыл бұрын
I think there's a trinket that gives a speed bonus when on fire, but aside from that... I kind of get the feeling that Occultist isn't fighting for top tier, but is intentionally a little jank by design. For the memes and challenge runs. Like, part of the appeal of the class is solving the puzzle of how to make him work well. Fun to mess around with.
@camtheman7654
@camtheman7654 Жыл бұрын
32:46 They actually changed the Seashell to from" if bleeding: when hit, take damage" to "when it, 1 bleed".
@Dropbear2024
@Dropbear2024 Жыл бұрын
Seeing a big X underneath take aim made me a bit sick in the guts tbh.
@gorgeouszan
@gorgeouszan Жыл бұрын
I actually really like Surgeon on PD, but that's when I tend her to be a pure Doctor/debuff machine with pretty good hitting Incision. I usually don't run Noxious Blast when I'm running it though cause that -33 makes it just kinda pointless. Also this guy is nuts, Vanguard is the way to go with Man-At-Arms with Reverberating Redoubt, he's a killing machine.
@alx2903
@alx2903 Жыл бұрын
im prefer Sergeant, random dot resists on party and with 100% move resists he is immune to Leviathan grab, usually he got marked by him and can defend another one, his hand always lost 1 turn when tried to grab him) im really like this moment
@ms.blackfire2927
@ms.blackfire2927 11 ай бұрын
I don't know if this is stupid but I love surgeon because it can make her a damage dealer and when also becoming even better at healing if you give her items which increase her health and damage she somehow becomes 60 health and almost always 11 to 15 damage plus bleed
@dokkabaerpg7896
@dokkabaerpg7896 Жыл бұрын
I was not expecting the guides to be pretty ok. There are usually some parts of the builds that are wrong, but whoever made the guide is mostly right. Never mind they are unhinged lol
@frederickleake9122
@frederickleake9122 Жыл бұрын
Lmaо тне shift
@madpika6812
@madpika6812 Жыл бұрын
Had us in the first half NGL
@NoxLegend1
@NoxLegend1 Жыл бұрын
I randomly made this all heal vestal build and was in the third act today and could barely do anything against the boss with no judgement or combat skill. She just sat there and healed and it was a waste of turns. I think she has to be proactive in damage and healing as a side thing. Healing by proxy through preventing damage by eliminating enemies
@grimwulf7382
@grimwulf7382 Жыл бұрын
7:22 nah, they were not referring to Footman's Grog. At least I hope they didn't. By "trinket" they most likely meant Seeing Sphere, in which case it makes sense to run Burning Stars on your Occultist. You get enough power tokens to drop burning stars every now and then. Without this trinket, there is no reason whatsoever to have stars on Ritualist. Edit: oh, you actually noticed this trinket later on. My bad for commenting while watching
@acksOldPeople
@acksOldPeople Жыл бұрын
The 4 turn self set-up that requires no-one else consuming your combo and the enemy not dodging or dying in between any of those attacks is just the technique you need to make stars a good ability. See Chaotic Offering might have dazed you. edit: Just gotta say, I've currently got a Hellion with Bloodthirsty (+30% damage) and Lost in Time and Space (+8 speed). Most brutal Howling delivery unit I''ve ever seen. edit 2: I am in tears laughing. It's very on brand that these articles slowly become less and less legible as if something otherworldly is trying to keep them hidden.
@serenolopez-darwin1975
@serenolopez-darwin1975 Жыл бұрын
I actually agree with Blood on Jester. You can clear Horror obviously but also guaranteed Crit + Might on Finale is fucked up.
@sopppa
@sopppa Жыл бұрын
5:31 the worst part of unchecked power is that it only matters stacked the token should do something scalating in power just like Vestal
@thegamer9302
@thegamer9302 Жыл бұрын
The trinket suggestions seem even more fantisful because unlike the first one you cant hoard trinkets for perfect builds
@Just_B0red
@Just_B0red Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do a run or 2 with these "Best builds"
@alephnole7009
@alephnole7009 Жыл бұрын
Personally love Maniac Flagellant. The ability to add marks and manage friendly debuffs & DOT, far out classes a few back rank dot. And the UNO reverse card of just giving all your debuffs back to an enemy also makes trinkets with downsides stronger.
@baileyfathers902
@baileyfathers902 Жыл бұрын
As a leper main 30:44 gave me a fucking meltdown
@CookaSoupNieceEH
@CookaSoupNieceEH Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for their Darkest Dungeon 3 guide.
@kamilslup7743
@kamilslup7743 Жыл бұрын
Encore is great for removing risks for some setups (like vuln to burning stars with occultist) or to do some funny combos (like use firestarter on rogue highwayman, then controlled burn on bosses)
@zekerboy9877
@zekerboy9877 Жыл бұрын
Stone mount works well for MAA as well.
@dokkabaerpg7896
@dokkabaerpg7896 Жыл бұрын
Why did they do hellion so dirty? As a hellion enjoyer, I find this guide appalling
@themoonsevilsister1561
@themoonsevilsister1561 Жыл бұрын
I had the 200% dot resistance trinket on occultist and he still got burned from unchecked power, so ye he can't resist it I'm pretty sure I might be misremembering
@okonkwojones
@okonkwojones Жыл бұрын
If it’s going to be impossible to resist, it should be a unique DoT [maybe call it something like vacuum of the void?]. Plus, RH could let it transfer to enemies with unchecked power moves or work it into a trinket or something.
@owl4356
@owl4356 Жыл бұрын
Sergeant is a good path for man at arms, but when I use it my only means of damage is the riposte from retribution. Heck, I managed to beat the Denial boss with a backline man at arms who always cleared the leper's blindness and was a great utility overall, so seeing them put all this damage on him then going with sergeant was comedic to say the least. 😂
@Manimal_Official
@Manimal_Official Жыл бұрын
Yessss long ass shuff video for work, let’s go
@Darklordcomp
@Darklordcomp Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video explaining which Heros stories to go through first for move unlocks?
@murmaider7043
@murmaider7043 Жыл бұрын
I did flag maa and pd and then just did everyone else with those 3 on the team
@thickveinysausage3062
@thickveinysausage3062 Жыл бұрын
I'd recommend doing PD's first 3 shrines to unlock IS, then maybe 1st shrine on HWM to unlock PBS and MaA's first 3 shrines to get Retribution. After that you're free to unlock whatever you want else.
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo Жыл бұрын
They upped the shrine spawn rate, so honestly just do whatever you feel like isn't that helpful or have dead weight in the move set in your roster. You have to take said hero to the shrine in the first place after all
@faizyuki
@faizyuki Жыл бұрын
If you wanna go for "meta" just focus Plague Doctor , Man at Arms and Highwayman like one of these guys just mentioned. Otherwise, just go for your personal favourite characters. It's a game just play characters you enjoy their gameplay of.
@kvazarklymenko4536
@kvazarklymenko4536 Жыл бұрын
1:05:24 with this vestal you can be forsed to skip turns or moove sometimes becouse ALL of her skills in this build have big cooldowns and consitions
@xvipxburgahz7838
@xvipxburgahz7838 Жыл бұрын
Wanted to comment here since you talked about builds, I tried your recommended yellowhand HWM bleed team with a team of Wanderer hellion, HWM, virtuoso jester, and wanderer vestal. I won't lie, I think my implementation was scuffed since I took a team with low DOT res into confession 2, but I beat it! The team did great in road battles, and jester really helped attack the 3rd rank enemies with slice off, but not having a 4th rank slammer other than vestal's judgement and hellion's iron swan meant I had to really cleave my way towards the back line. I could have chosen someone other than vestal, but I felt that her consecrations combined with a smart usage of divine comfort (and a lucky region 2 trinket grab to make her Regens heal 5 a turn, forgetting the name) to top up on health or keep heroes off DD. also I liked the option of having vestal use sanctuary in rank 4 to keep the squishier jester and others a bit safer. Was it fun? Yeah, I like to use DOTs a lot and I can see how the build COULD work! But I think a replacement of hellion with someone such as either man-at-arms or even runaway (for firefly combo Gen and cauterize, since our bleed res was lacking) would complement jester and HWM being the central bleed applies. Having hellion in only rank 1 so that HWM can use highway robbery and using tracking shot instead of duelist meant my hellion was made to either spam wicked hack (and thus defeat the point of bringing her on a bleed team) or use bleed out.
@seth9369
@seth9369 Жыл бұрын
Sad the journalist thought Price of Pride stuns the MAA when he bellows, RIP fire breathing stun dragons for however many players trust the article
@Pr0g4m3m4s7eR
@Pr0g4m3m4s7eR Жыл бұрын
I'm late to the party but even though it feels the writer actually played the game, it seems to me that the way he thinks of a build is the skills first, making him dependant on the position and then the path as a "bonus". That seems weird to me. In this kind of game, you think first of what role you want. Then pick the speciality allowing it (here it's paths). Skills should come last and position should be adapted to the build. Or am I playing this game wrong? Also, the problem I find with the writer is to not tell what he/she thinks is important. "Best" is a relative term. Shuffle thinks that damage is most important so his thinking on the game reflects this.
@Frubs97
@Frubs97 Жыл бұрын
Flagellant best path is wanderer, change my mind
@MarcusMoscoso
@MarcusMoscoso Жыл бұрын
Doesn't critting with wyrd make it automax+50% heal like critting with attacks? You say it can crit for 2 but that's not true unless heals critting is different from attacks critting?
@alx2903
@alx2903 Жыл бұрын
no it can crit for 0 and apply bleed
@treedmusic
@treedmusic Жыл бұрын
47:34 a cat is never unprofessional. proof: cat lawyer on zoom video
@eleventy7
@eleventy7 Жыл бұрын
Jester Echoing March enemies into Runaway's Controlled Burn is new top strats.
@3DThird
@3DThird Жыл бұрын
Echoing is probably the worst skill in the entire game 😂😂. I was so annoyed when I unlocked it the first time and read its description.
@olchum7605
@olchum7605 Жыл бұрын
​@@3DThirdI disagree. it's situational but interesting. Cheerubs at rank 2 use Brisk bedevilment effectively skipping their turn to get back by 1 slot. this effectively makes that a single echoing march just shuts down the cheerub for 3 turns straight
@victorprati7908
@victorprati7908 Жыл бұрын
Oh so this is why Vestal is best char: cuz she heals. Truly a veteran favorite for this reason 😂
@Swanbergandy
@Swanbergandy Жыл бұрын
An hour long shuffle vid? Sicko mode
@riemaennchen
@riemaennchen Жыл бұрын
Probably thought MAA has a 10% chance to stun himself with Bellow. Kinda funny thinking about MAA yelling so much that he knocks himself out.^^
@zombieboss5178
@zombieboss5178 Жыл бұрын
my favourite way to build nuke Leper (A.K.A Tempest) is to max out his debuff resistance so blindness is not an issue
@tylerwarwick7975
@tylerwarwick7975 12 күн бұрын
So I have a serious question as a super noob who is trying not to be, am I messing ul choosing Wanderer for Vestal and Flagellant? they are my go to choices because the other classes seem to ruin or minimize my favorite moves in comparison, for example Vestal wanderer can trigger consecration with mantra and it doesn't require you get punched in the face for those tokens to buff the move. With Flagellant it's kind of similar, a good chunk of the moves get altered in a way that feels like they are weakened and for very little benefit so I take the extra candles in stead. Any insights are welcome, because I'm having a really hard time thinking that you could dump so many resources into character classes and have them be specialized into a suboptimal category.
@ShuffleFM
@ShuffleFM 10 күн бұрын
Nah Wanderer is usable on them. Flag might even be the best Wanderer in the game. The vestal paths are iffy besides seraph, but all the flag paths are good and change the playstyle.
@Teddlon1
@Teddlon1 Жыл бұрын
Just finished act 5 and man at arms can become unkillable in so many ways. I hope they buff the others instead of nerfing the good ones. Jester, PD and Man at arms feel like they are far ahead. But I also finished act 5 with a Graverobber with 0 skill unlocks, she is actually pretty decent as a dot extender for PD xD
@faizyuki
@faizyuki Жыл бұрын
Agreed on all parts. Grave robber really only needs her poison darts and she's all set lmao
@magni5648
@magni5648 Жыл бұрын
That PD build is pretty good if you just ditch Noxious Blast for Blinding Gas.
@jangomango1967
@jangomango1967 Жыл бұрын
Oh boi, Shuffle roasting another "Gamer Ant" article xD
@namshurik
@namshurik Жыл бұрын
All of this guides sounds good, before you going to actual run and can't find the right trinkets or you get first map that leads you straight into the lair and so on...
@S_Black
@S_Black Жыл бұрын
Surgeon with the Locked Jaw trinket makes blight moves more viable
@baileyswiekatun9613
@baileyswiekatun9613 Жыл бұрын
The vestal build with no dmg ability hurt my soul. Also that hellion build 😢
@marcusn9371
@marcusn9371 Жыл бұрын
thank you shuffle
@awesomepork101
@awesomepork101 Жыл бұрын
Shuff has fallen for the trap from the last video
@ExtremeMan10
@ExtremeMan10 Жыл бұрын
The one about hellion is so funny You are on fire, heavily bleeding and poisoned....but surely this holy water I now drink will help me lol
@Kotoy1
@Kotoy1 Жыл бұрын
babe wake up, new 1 hour shuffle video just dropped
@komrade_karma8220
@komrade_karma8220 Жыл бұрын
47:35 its the star of the show! echies is the reason why i watch these, not the goofy ass articles
@Kairax
@Kairax Жыл бұрын
4:18 and i'm disagreeing. Why necrosis on the list?
@dkbp4340
@dkbp4340 Жыл бұрын
Te diference between a pro playera with hundred of hours and a journo with 30 minutes registered and a still developing AI
@Oukkeri
@Oukkeri Жыл бұрын
The takeaway here is that a PD with an ideal build can help literally every other hero in the game in every situation.
@kincaidnichols2517
@kincaidnichols2517 Жыл бұрын
Um glint in the dark wouldn't be buffed by deadeye it's a melee skill?
@ShuffleFM
@ShuffleFM Жыл бұрын
Check it :P
@kincaidnichols2517
@kincaidnichols2517 Жыл бұрын
@@ShuffleFM Oh no I'm just dumb, the icon has a hand so I thought it was melee. np either way
@glorytoarstotzka330
@glorytoarstotzka330 Жыл бұрын
it'd be useful if you had timestamps for each hero
@bunnysupreme74
@bunnysupreme74 9 ай бұрын
It's understandable they got the bellow-stun on Price of Pride wrong. The wording on these trinkets is very ambiguous. "Apply on attack". Apply on whom, the enemy or yourself? Bellow isn't even really an attack, it's a debuff. (I know the game treats it as an attack, but I mean, come on) So if you read this, and think it means MaA has a chance to stun himself, and then decide "I don't like Bellow anyway" then you will never find out that you just misunderstood the wording. Plus, for a name like "price of pride" it would make more sense that it stuns MaA (out of humility or something), instead of him suddenly being able to potentially stun the whole enemy team by shouting. I always had to compare to other trinkets, to deduce what it means. Like, understanding that "Gain" means it applies to you, so I guess "Apply" would refer to the enemy. It's like trying to solve some kind of puzzle, just to understand what the trinket does.
@Prom591
@Prom591 Жыл бұрын
I like my MaA Bulwark build...
@HighLanderPonyYT
@HighLanderPonyYT Жыл бұрын
So many grammar errors. This seems like an AI article thrown together to fill a quota. lol
@QuestionableObject
@QuestionableObject Жыл бұрын
I do not appreciate this slander against my good name.
@TheLovecraftian
@TheLovecraftian Жыл бұрын
This feels like a video made by someone who neither bothered to play the game in-depth, nor interview or research properly. Everything here is like, an on-paper 'seems decent' mishmash of things except in a few select cases like Flag, and I'm will to chalk that up to a stopped clock being right twice a day. Hodey Johns should be ashamed of themselves.
@yumbrik005
@yumbrik005 Жыл бұрын
Hi there! Could anyone help me with no sound in game?
@megatoki
@megatoki Жыл бұрын
1 hour pepega build review WAYTOODANK
@JonLordDread
@JonLordDread Жыл бұрын
The eyes are quite spaced
@dokkabaerpg7896
@dokkabaerpg7896 Жыл бұрын
Obligatory first comment
@sthcproductions
@sthcproductions Жыл бұрын
So, to sum up: this guy is addicted to the radiant flame and lacks so much skill that he cant even keep up with them training wheels. And he is entirely addicted to healing to a dangerous degree
@RatchetSly
@RatchetSly Жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of the DD1 players that insisted on having a Vestal in every team.
@alx2903
@alx2903 Жыл бұрын
37:15 just my reaction)
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