I came into the hobby in 1993. I now have my grandkids into it. 3 generations of Black Templars...thats OG and I love bringing in new people, even if I have to make them myself 😂

One thing I found is my wife actually really enjoys building models, I hate it. I love painting models and she hates it. So we actually work as a good team to get an army ready for the table top.

As someone with ADHD I relate hard to Liam's attitude to painting vs building sessions. I'm the same where if I'm painting I really need several hours free where I can really focus on it, but with building I take a little hobby toolkit to work with me with a couple of build projects in there and even if there's like half an hour of my lunch break free I'll get at least something done in that time. Also as someone who loves kitbashing, building models is a big part of my hobby.

Great interview. Liam is an absolute lad.

Worms Armageddon, easily one of my fav party games growing up. James knows it.

Love that you got Liam on the show. Fully agree with with Georges take that some people would love more people in the hobby so there's more people to play/hobby/talk with. 10/10 guys keep up the great work

Liam and Joe, best games i'ver ever watched and I always have a laugh. And great sportsmanship.

Great chat gents. Really insightful

Best guest ever..... Mr Dempsey

Ah yes, that feel when you understand that glazing is really quite easy and just time consuming, you feel like you can achieve anything... by spending a week per 1 marine. My hardest lesson was to set my own standard for squad units and saving the power for heroes and centerpieces.

I insist you start making content three times a week.. I’m literally addicted to this podcast and need more 🤣🥵

I've recently come to the realization that what I REALLY get joy out of is the kitbashing: painting is only a distant second to that for me. With that in mind, anything LESS detailed that a space Marine (open area, flat surfaces, etc) is going to be difficult to get a pleasing result with contrast/speed paints. Anything MORE detailed that a space marine - such as the striking scorpions - are PERFECT models for speed paint, for the majority of the body. Recognizing how not to go out of your mind is the best key to be able to pick something up again.

You can just have that feeling - where you can devour the tutorials and guides all day, but your fingers are itching to slap some paint on minis. This is your sign to ditch the theory for a bit and just dive in. Maybe even consider hitting up some local paint competitions. Those are often all about that single mini, just to paint it, so it's the perfect excuse to channel your energy into a masterpiece. Let's see those brushes fly! Here's to putting paint to plastic!

I really was digging the discussion in this 1. As someone who isn't Pro in any means of lore or game etc.. I can relate. I also have done podcasts and interviews for about 12yrs now and Liam said so many things that I just had a little laugh at cuz you really only know if you are involved in doing it. Good vod thnx for the work & upload !

Great podcast guys. I have to say I wasn’t expecting James’ Worms suggestion 😂😂

Just got back into the groove of hobbying a couple weeks ago, found this episode very relevant. Always love the vibe of this podcast

Liam Great Guy

Personally, i dont understand why theres never been some kind of miniatures game set in the pokemon universe. You could have stadiums, trainers for buffs, and kill team style pokemon gameplay

I hadn't thought about using a lighter for the metal glue tube! I had mine get clogged recently and ended up taking an old pill bottle I hadn't thrown out yet, poured in 99% isopropyl and let it sit for like 5 - 10 minutes and then let it air dry for a few minutes. I did keep the cap over the glue while it was in this process. Regardless, I do try to remember more frequently to put the cap on after applying the glue I need and then combining the pieces I am working with.

Can you guys get Valrak on? Love that guy 👍 Also if you do get him on... ask him about his 'orange' marines 😂

Great advice. Spending too much time looking at phenominal artists like Sergio Calvo, Maverick Paints or Elminiturista for example, often leaves me feeling like my attempts are pointless. This podcast actually helped me just sit down and practice daily, improve and enjoy it mainly. So cheers guys!

(P.M.P) Same as George was talking about regarding putting your best into everything doesn't work, especially as its now the job, you paint stuff to complete it and relax a bit. My whole thing was always painting, I enjoyed the game but I always wanted to paint it like the box, and at GD etc you'd see some people who were clearly born with god given talent, but there few and far between, the rest of us just have to graft at it, and you cant be good at every aspect of it (NMM, Stippling, Cloth, a particular colour etc, pick stuff you like to perfect then be good at the rest). The problem with wanting everything to be to boxart level, you never painted anything as you never will complete it, aim to finish to the standard you are at, then on the next project try to improve for that one to a next level if that makes sense. There's also this weird thin on social media, WIP images get likes, completed stuff gets like 1 like??! I say all this, but I'm doing a Votann army to Eavy metal sort of standard in my spare time...because i'm an idiot. Maybe i should play Death Stranding instead, its the same amount of time!!

Great podcast, always admired your work and hopefully will be able to afford a commissioned army from you one day soon!

I think you might want to look outside GW range. Rumbleslam, Worms from Mantic, Gaslands, Rogue Stars. These would all fill your wishes.

Loved this episode. I'm a beginner painter of 35 Joe is my reason for listening

I think it’s a pity that we see “hobby shaming” when people tell someone their choices/skill level/opinions are wrong it just pushes people out of the hobby. To mirror Liams point bikers can be naughty too: sports bike riders and Harley riders looking down on each other. It’s lovely to see wholesome chaps like you guys bringing people into the hobby (as long as they are in a nose piercing cult of course)

Its already been created a worms bordgame, was a kickstarter last year, dont know if it has had a general release yet, if not it should come sometimes this year. And those metal tubes on the glue is clogged up, Just take it out and turn it the other way around and the plastic sement will dissolve it and open it up. Old scalemodel trick

There's actually the exact game for Star Trek that James suggests... it's even currently in stores. The models' details are just a little soft, though.

Would love a segment about some of your favourite minis to paint. Always looking for new things.

On a previous episode I remember a hobby hack was mentioned that glazing mediums were used to speed up glazing and I was wondering if that could be expanded on, how exactly are glazing mediums speeding up the process? I was under the impression they are paint retardants and will increase the working time.

Gorkamorka style game with lots of cars with guns... dude just described Gaslands perfectly XD

QOTD - I think a Transformers tabletop wargame would be sick! The models and weapons for the autobots and decepticons would be fun to paint and look great with terrain

Love the content guys good banter and a great vibe all round love listening to it at work (butcher to add to list of jobs that listen to the podcast), I gotta say it surprises me that most people don't like building models, I love it, i love kit bashing just making something unique I've just finished making my vet guard kill team into a danish frogmen and it was genuinely just going back and listening to the podcast eps and especially this one, realizing yeah all the models you see online are just people's best works in most cases you'll never see their worst so it's been great to just hear how even the greats like yourselves are even capable of mistakes like 'Yes the gods bleed' great work gentlemen keep up the great work Now question either lose all edge higlighting skills or all glazing skills?

Dip in and out of the podcast but always enjoy

Love the podcast, keeps m3 company on long drives for work. Goblin gaming has a pre-order for a worms game James, someone already had the crazy worms miniatures board game idea and has made it!!

Great episode as always. Just for James there's a table top game called Star Trek Away Missions which have minis to be painted. They're not as good as GW sculpts but the game does exist.

I like the first 5 mins of how it’s good Liams not professional 😂

Another great episode, always nice to get such a different perspective on things!

This was such a pleasure to watch. :)

The worms board game is due to come out in August. The dream is real!

I'm building a 90s metal Jungle Fighters army and I'm here to tell you that I'll be rolling into next year with CATACHAN-UARY

A worms game is the greatest idea ever! I would play the shit out of that!😂

I would argue that painting is probably like guitare if it's all about showing of. But for me it's obviously like basse ;) I hope you are all now even more confused by this comparaison ! I guess first we have to agree if we are talking about the rehearsal and progress process or just the performance ? Like painting isn't the same as having a painted model. The process is forgiving, you can blend, add layers... But once it's on the shelf.... YOU AR DOOMED ! XD

Really enlightening chat, made this 56 year old gamer reconsider a few things 🤔 Liam seems to be a better guest than presenter in my view, really insightful, get him back… Great stuff boys 👍😊

Many people who post on social media are miniature painters, when most people are army painters, you cant compare your army painted figures to the people who paint one off miniatures for 10-100 hours per mini, if you did, you'ld never get your army completed.

A "Band of Brothers" Kill Team would be a cool franchise range

WORMS!! Excellent!!

Hi team, it’s me again. As a lover of the Grimdark settings of warhammer, huge Guard fan and more recently the new cities sigmar sculpts, my god they are beautiful models! Your styles are very much eavy metal from what I’ve seen. How would you go about grimdarking your oh so crisp lines? Would you oil wash, or the new Acrylic Weathering Medium let me know. All the best and love the show.

Worm for the win hahahahhaha

I am not so interested in a Worms game but I would love to see a resurgence of Gorkamorka because it was a fantastic game that was sadly dropped by GW. I have always thought that was because GW didn’t appreciate people making their own kitbashed miniatures, but I am old 🤷🏽‍♂️

Liam’s content is punk rock 40k

I can't paint, literally. So I have to commission it places that require painted models. A high barrier of entry for people without hands (for example)

There was a Worms board game on Kickstart by Mantic Games

What are you thoughts on weathering and chipping with a sponge vs a brush?

I would love for a GW level model range for the Mass Effect universe

It deffo wasn’t 3 hours on a Harlequins lapel! 😂😂😂

You guys know Mantic Games did a kickstarter for a Worms boardgame in September, right?

Gw used to do Dark Future which was a mad max type game

Great episode as always!

just started watching, I'm trying to get into competition painting, nmm is my sticking point do you guys do tutorials

You all agree that if you don't like painting, it is fine to game using an unpainted army. I agree with this because both my armies are not even half way to be fully painted. My question is, if someone doesn't like building. Would you be ok with them just using the bases? 🤣🤣🤣 Great show as always guys.

I can already get some kits in 2 days from Amazon. That or ebay (which often have stores on both sites). Though I live 2 minutes from a GW store too. Neither of these are good for me let's be real.😅 The thing about making a mistake on guitar or bass at a gig is there's literally nothing you can do about it in the moment. So you just keep playing the song. That mistake might register for 5 whole people in the room for half of a split second, and then everybody forgets it because you all got a job to do. Then in the back room nobody is going to even remember it unless it was the bass player and the drummer is side-eyeing you for it. A goof with a model can be near insurmountable for a new painter. Especially if they don't know how to quickly correct a wayward paint splotch, or realize they can just...paint over it later.

If Games workshop make a worms miniatures before they update the lord of the rings miniatures that have had the same poses for 20 years like the Gondor warriors I am out of this hobby lmao

Worms?! Forget Worms, what about HOGS OF WAR?

New miniature range for GW? Fallout or Elder Scrolls or Final Fantasy anyone? I know there is a game one, but not at the quality or quantity of GW

Oh look, it's LIUUUMMMMM

Liam dressed like he's cosplaying Sevchenko from Killzone 2. Been a while since I watched his channel.

would love to see a red alert or starcraft war game.. thought about this too where each turn you are placing down a certain points value of units with points carrying over. I'm rather surprised that eastern media hasn't become war games too. thinking about a pokemon or fate skirmish game... jojo minis anyone?

Mantic do a worms board game with miniatures

so when is coming the siege warhammer based band out ?

Cars with machine guns... look no further than Gaslands Reloaded.

Amazon do stock Warhammer?

I feel like a right big brain for once cos the lighter is the first thing i went to..😂

Tattoo needles work great for airbrushes

The Lore of 40K is pretty much unmatched

Shhh, don’t anyone tell James about Star Trek Away Missions! Or Gaslands.

Mantic games is actually making a Worms board game. Due out Aug this year

Worms would be sick

I can tell you right now why the "old guard" don't necessarily like all the new attention and people coming into the hobby. And it never used to be like this at all, everyone used to be very welcoming into the hobby. And even now some some of the "old guard" are still very welcoming. And with those individuals you will usually find that they don't have a big social media presence. But the "old guard" that do can see what is happening, you get a bunch of new people coming in that want to change things about the hobby that they love. It's as simple as that. For instance just look what happened with the female Custodes, and its not just in this hobby/fandom that it's happening. There's massive changes sweeping across all IPs and has been since like 2016. And people are just sick of it. They don't want their escapism diluted and changed to meet some mass new audience. And most of this new audience doesn't even do anything in the hobby except watch youtube videos and then comment on socials about it. They're not the customer. Anyway, that's the answer.

Can I recommend less clickbaity titles?