I just passed up buying a Kimber Micro 9 because of mag feed issue and the fix was to install Sig 938 mag’s which fixed the problem! Now I watched this and you added a Kimber mag to fix feed issues with your Sig. WTF

Very interesting solution! Thank you. I had a P938 with the same issues. Valuable info!

I’ve had mine for 7 years and it eats everything. I really think based on my experience it’s the mag. I’ve got 2 Sig mags and bought a third and it pops out sometimes when I shoot causing a stoppage. Other than that, I’ve had to loctite the guide rod, safety levers, and grip screws as these will loosen. I do see why people give up on them but I paid too much and just chose to keep it, work the bugs out of it and I’m glad I did. My EDC gun and it shoots flawlessly and accurate

Wow... I'm shocked to stumble across this review... I've had mine for years and years now. Infact it was my only gun for a while. I've fired thousands of rounds from the cheapest ammo I can get my hands to the pricey hollow points and I've never had even one round fail. 👍🏼

Just found your channel and grateful for it. Bought a P938, and had a FTF the first time at the range. Only been to the range with it once so we'll see what happens the next time but your videos have been so helpful.

Thank you so much for posting this follow up. I have this pistol and I love everything about it except for the unreliability aspect. I contacted Sig CS, tried different grain/mfgr ammo, got with the trainer to see if I was limp wristing, etc. I will definitely try changing out the mags.

I love this little gun. It shoots well for its size and I shoot it a lot. Happy to say that it has never failed.

I've had a 938 for several years now without any issues what so ever. I have the BRG version with the black rubber grips and extended mag with finger rest. I have smaller hands but the grips fit very well and are very comfortable.

Bought one a few years ago, love it now. Had one issue though, had to slam the mag in because the mag release spring was extremely tight, got it fixed, was an easy fix too, just switched it out with a looser full size 1911 spring and cut it down to fit🤷🏻‍♂️. Love it to this day😅

I have the exact same pistol and have never had a malfunction. Hundreds of rounds of perfection. Sucks that you got one with bad clips. Love this gun. Thanks for sharing your experience.

Mine came with the 7 round mag and the flush mag and neither have gave me any problem with any kind of ammo and I’ve shot damn near every kind I can find!! I also have the hogue style grip with the finger groves but made by sig on it as well as the crimson trace made by dog laser and I carry this baby daily! Thanks for the videos keep them coming !!

Interesting! Thinking in a similar way, I purchased a new Sig extended mag hoping the problem would go away, but it didn't. I'll give the Kimber mag a try.

I've had my P938 and used both the flush and extended magazines from Sig. I cannot remember if I've ever had a problem. It's snappy, but for close quarters it's my EDC. I also use the Ruger LCR 327 Federal

That is really crazy! I have a 938 and I am reticent to carry it. Mine ran good on FMJ but stuff like Hornady critical defense no-dice. It’s an expensive micro pistol to own and have it not run! I never thought it might be the magazine, that’s very interesting. I don’t have those Kimber mags but it would probably be worth trying one. So they are for the micro nine and one called an EVO? Definitely gonna try that. The 938 would be awesome for deep concealment if you could trust it. By the way, mine is really super accurate for what it is, that was surprising, also. Thanks for this tip, sir! Worth a go in my estimstion.

I bought a 938 that was a popular range rental for a few years. I won't bore you with all the things wrong with it but it had a failure similar to the one you described. I cleaned and replaced springs as needed and fixed the other problems. When the gun was cycling, as the new shell was lloaded, the shell beneath was pulled forward. When the gun tried to extract the shell, the shell that was forward interferred with the travel and the extractor pulled off the lip of the shell and the gun was jamed. Again I tried a lot of things and kept logs of the results. I did replace the extractor and its spring with a new one from Sig. I did not have any Kimber mags and frankly never thought of that. I tried to get a stronger extractof spring and was unable to find one. The gun still had 10 of more failes to cycle for each box of shells. I took the old extractor spring and stretched it a little less than 1/8 inch. The extractor was tought to reinstall with the extra spring pressure. According to my log, i now have had 950 rounds with no failures. That is a mix of range and critical defence ammunition. After, the 950, I shot 400 rounds of steel. It never failed but it did break the little tail off the extractor after about 200 rounds. I did replace the extractor and have shot 200 rounds or so with no failures. I decided that steel in these small guns was a stretch. I did find other fixes that fixed the cycle problem but they caused other unccceptable problems.

Here’s something crazy. My 938 malfunctions with Kimber mags due to the follower hanging up on the mag release but my Sig mags work OK. Sad thing is the Kimber mags are much more affordable than Sig mags. The 938 can be finicky in my opinion.

All I can say, my SIG P938 Sport runs flawless with the flush 6 rounder it came with, the 7 round magazine too, plus the 2 xtra 7 rounder extender mags I bought later all work fine. Sorry that you're experiencing this from such a fine Brand such as SIG SAUER.

Funny that the Kimber mag was the fix. I had a Kimber Micro 9 that had the exact same issue you were having with this P938. And it’s the same when you search videos for the Micro 9. Tons of videos with failure to feed claims, and loads of comments in the video that say “I fed 1,000 rounds through mine and no problems!” I could shoot Winchester white box FMJ through the Kimber all day and though it wasn’t perfect, it didn’t have failures very often. As soon as I’d put any type of defensive round in it it would fire and failure to feed immediately. I’d fix it.. failure to feed. I shot more than a dozen types of ammo through and the only one it would run a whole mag without failures was Winchester FMJ. I talked to quite a few people and heard all sorts of advice. “Polish the feed ramp”, “make sure you’re holding it right”, and ironically, “these Kimber magazines have trouble. Try a magazine from a sig”. Nothing worked and after about 700 rounds I gave up and sold it. I really wanted it to work. It was comfortable to carry and I wish I could find a gun like this that didn’t have this sort of issue.. but after my experience with the Kimber and seeing all the problems that Sig owners have had with these, I’m of the mind that the only 1911 I’ll ever buy from here is a full sized.

Nice follow up. I can’t say it enough, I love this gun. Bought mine at a pawn shop, had the flush fit mag and 3 extended mags for $600, had the box and holster that I replaced but it was serviceable…all the normal stuff. So for a small 9mm made by Sig, I figured it was worth a roll of the dice. I’m typically a revolver man. Just a choice, I think they are sexier. But more often than not, I grab the p938 to go somewhere, and that says a lot. It’s just so easy to carry and shoots really well. 7 shots are really all I feel I’ll need and so it’s a good platform that is very much like a 1911. Just tiny

It would be interesting to know if it's the magazine body or the spring or the follower. What happens when you put the Kimber follower in the Sig magazine body?

Check the magazine opening do they measure the same as the kimber? I had a couple extend mags where the top lips were pinched in at the front. Also on extended mags I had contact on the black extension peace at rear, hitting the heal of the mag well frame. Once cleared the mag would lock in to position much easier. O more feed problems. A shame what I thought was a higher level product has such problems. I am going to get a kimber mag asap.

Just picked mine up new from an older gentleman who was cleaning out his collection. Fired about 100 rounds through all 4 7round mags that I got with the gun. Not one jam, made sure to clean and lube it prior to firing and then again after a short break in of 100 rounds.

I've had no issues with my recently purchased 938 and it eats my reloads with no problems. I'm curious to know if you ever contacted Sig again letting them know that a competitors mags fixed the problem?

Mines been perfect for Year's, Has never misfired or failed. EDC

Seems to be a common issue with these P938 and P238 guns. My P238 was having failure to feed issues periodically during the first 200 rounds with a couple types of ammo. I ended up polishing the feed ramp and giving it a good cleaning/oiling between range visits and it has become reliable since. I just bought a Springfield 911 mag and it fits just like the Sig unit, so I am going to test that out too. Also have a couple sets of Magguts springs/followers on the way to try.

I have had the same issues with my 938 and I believe the mag. follower springs have too much tension. Now that I have stored the mags full for a while, I seem to get fewer mis-feeds. I noticed from the start that the spring tension spread the mags open and cartridges would tumble a bit. For a while, I could not load a mag. with the slide open, fail every time. I am hoping my follower springs will relax a bit more...

I have the same gun with the same problems, and like you, I had little confidence in its reliability. The biggest issue I had with mine was with using the 7-round magazine. The magazine would almost always eject before it was finished causing a stoppage. Multiple shooters, grip variations etc. no matter, the 7-round magazine was the primary issue. The 6-round magazines didn’t have this problem. I also couldn’t use any ammo less than 124 gr bullet weight. As long as I used at least 124 gr FMJ or JHP and I stuck to the 6-round magazines I was fine. So in the end I went back to carrying my Kahr PM9. I like the idea of the P938 but not enough to trust mine.

That's really bizarre. Glad it worked out. Love my 938.

I had the same problem with my Sig P238. The Sig mags had problems but aftermarket mags (Metalform IIRC) worked well.

I'm shock with all the issues I'm hearing from people. Amazing the KImber magazines work. I have the Legion version and had no issues what so ever but it's strange to hear issues with the regular version.

I have been carrying the 938 and shooting it for close to 10 yrs.. 938 BRG...came w/ the extension on the mags...I have never had an issue w/ failure to feed. It has never failed me. 124 or 147 yr 9mm. I love the 1911 style, I have other pistols but this my go to EDC.

I have the Sig 938 and have never any problems with the pistol or the Sig mags. I like it when I need something really compact. I bought several Kimber mags because they were much more affordable and the work as well. Another pistol along the lines of the Sig 938 is the Smith and Wesson CSX in 9MM. I am going to purchase the S&W CSX, when I find one local, and if it is as reliable as my 938 I will carry the S&W to get more capacity (10 + 1 and 12 + 1). The S&W CSX may be worth a look. Anyway, thank you for the video.

Had a 938 in fact I still do. It’s been in my rotation for several years. I tested it after well over a month of pocket carry in a holster and it ate a full load of federal hst hollow points with no issues at all. One thing I stress constantly is constant maintenance, I generally service my carry guns monthly or before extended storage. I also use small amounts of oil on mag followers. Do that and you’ll eliminate a number of things that can jam your gun

Well I've carried mine now for about 5 years and I have to say my grip screws one fell out first time shooting it then I fixed that and blue lock tight is your friend Recently my front fiber sight fell out but some super glue its back in action All and all it never jams,its always accurate and nothing is stock at this point, spring,barrel, grip, light,trigger,hammer, all aftermarket even the firing pin

I had same problem with my p938.the rounds in a full magazine didn't have the correct attitude to be fed correctly.only way I could get the rounds to stay down at the front was to lightly pinch the front area of the feed lips until desired effect was accomplished.i find this common these days with odd calibers and aftermarket magazines.i did use my sig mags though.good luck!

Hi and. Thanks for your thoughts.... How does your safety lever operate? Mine is very stiff, almost to the point of moving the pistol or the weapon to get better leverage in order to toggle it. This is both to engage and dis engage. Is yours smooth and comfortable to toggle? Thanks.

That is strange because my p938 had never had an issue. With my Kimber solo I have to go up to a higher grain to get it to feed properly.

Yet, I’ve carried this exact Sig 938 “Rosewood” for over a decade RELIABLY as my EDC with the Factory extended mags in a Desantis leather mini scabbard holster! I just recently switched back to a revolver; the Kimber K6s 357 magnum that’s beautifully crafted with night sights and 6-shot capabilities I carry in a leather Desantis paddle holster now as my EDC. I still keep my 938 9mm will fit in any pocket and it was expensive at purchase but so were both my pistols mentioned. I am a firm believer in “You get what you pay for!” But this little Sig has been a great gun for me! I’d like to get a velcro ankle holster and carry as a backup will be my next purchase! I’m a Kimber man and wanted the Kimber Raptor Micro 9 to match my Kimber 1911 Pro Raptor ll in 45 acp but couldn’t justify paying ALL that money for basically the same pistol as my 938 with ONLY difference being SS and just Beautifully crafted as the Raptor 1911 & rest of their line of firearms.#Sig#938”Rosewood”#9mm#Micro

I have a 938. The issue I have is when I am firing the gun the magazine falls out. I thought it was the way I was holding it. Tried one handed and the magazine still fell out. One of the range officers thinks it could be the magazine release spring. He noticed as you eject the magazine it ejects rapidly. He said think about when there are bullets in the mag weighing it down. I will try the new heavy spring and if not just try the kimber mag. But yes, for a very expensive conceal gun its disappointing that we have to do any adjustments.

I frankly love my P238, it is extremely accurate and has flawlessly fired ffmj and jhp. At first Sig had growing pains that I know of....I hadn't heard anyone give P938 a bad review

Have you tried the p938 mags in the Kimber pistol to see if they will shoot ?

I have a Kimber 8rd magazine and it works great with the 938. I was wondering if the Kimber 7rd magazine works?

Only time I ever had issues with mine was due either mags being filled to max capacity or rounds not set all the way back into mags. 🤷‍♂️

Every time is see a video like this I am surprised. I got my p938 Equinox about 6 years ago. I use five different magazines all Sig - two flush 6 rounds and three extended 7 rounders. I have my 938 to run flawlessly with all of the Sig magazines and it will run any and all ammo including aluminum case and my own reloads.

Well I've had my new P938 Legion 4 months now, 500 rounds of FMJ & JHP, the last 200 were JHP, I've not had a single malfunction. I've watch your P938 videos at least twice (I watched several other channels also). I did see the reports of the two piece guide rod coming apart but those seemed to be earlier versions, I immediately found the original Sig replacement ONE PIECE rod and have it as a backup, as mine it still tight. I'm actually thinking of getting a another P 938 in a couple of months.

I am scardd of dropping this kind of money on kimber 9 or sig, when i has ssen so many problems and returns to factory. I bought a kahr k9 and the ejector assembly flew off it injuring my hand on round 20. It is currently at factory. Any suggestions?

Mine was having a problem with the magazines coming out during firing. Or, if my pinky was wrapped under the magazine, it would pop out ever so slightly and the slide wouldn't pick up a round. Solution: New upgraded mag catch from Sig after they found and fixed this very common issue. They enlarged the shelf that the mag's catch slot rests on. I have yet to try Kimber mags yet, but it's so secure now that I imagine even promag magazines would work.

Can you tell us what the difference in height is with that extended mag in there? How much the extended mag adds to the height. Thank you!

Experienced several makes that a few mags from a batch didn't feed well at all. Every one of them needed taken apart and cleaned of production fluids inside. With evaporation they become sticky and won't feed properly. Never added any oil to any mag.

I have the 938 legion, zero ftf or any issues in over 1000 rounds. Love my 938.

One note. I had a similar feed issue and as soon as I went to some hotter ammo, better but not +p, (maybe +p would help, it is a Sig, should take it, but just an opinion)feed issues went away. Those guns have a very stiff spring- try the dissembly. After a few mags of hotter stuff, it fed the normal stuff just fine. Just wear it in.

Very interesting. Sig seems to have mag problems, I just bought a 320 and the mags only hold 12 rds wtf. Seems like the mags are made all over the place..?

Sorry you are having problems. Maybe I got a good one by luck but mine has worked very well. I hope you find the cure.

Mine stovepiped several rounds per mag new out of the box. Sent it in, they put a new extractor in it and it ran fine ever since. Took a good while to rebuild trust but it’s my edc now.

Looks like I may be the only other person to have magazine issues with the 938. On the short magazine, I occasionally get a partial ejection of the magazine at the same time I get a FTF. It doesn't happen often, but it's enough to keep me from carrying it as my primary weapon.

Did you ever try the longer Sig mag before using the Kimber?

I’m gonna pick one of these up for Black Friday.

I’ve owned a P938 for 7 years, and never had a problem. I use the Sig flush and extended versions. 🤷🏼

The funny thing is the only thing I changed on my Kimber Custom II 1911 was the mag to Wilson Combat. Kimber is known to have shitty mags, but I guess they're still better than Sig factory mags.

I have the same gun. I use Sig mags. No issues in 5+years.

Sorry about the trouble with yours, but no such bad luck with mine yet! So far, mine has been a sweet little shooter.

Did you try the sig mags in your micro 9? Just curious…

FYI: I had issues with another gun's magazines that was caused by the magazine's lip just touching the extractor. This prevented the slide going into battery. The gun is a Kahr CW45 with a Kimber magazine. Its lip was too high for the CW45's extractor to clear. By lightly sanding (200 grip paper) the lip, the magazine now totally clears the extractor. I notice on some 1911 slides, the extractor sits high on the slide where in other 1911 frames, the extractor sits low. This is the problem in using off brand magazines. Your description, however, is the opposite. The Kimber magazine works where the Sig doesn't. I'd check the Sig magazine for clearance when the extractor slides over the magazine. (I have a P238 and I'm currently leaning on getting a P938. I bought the P238 before the P938 was marketed by Sig, otherwise, I would have gotten the P938.)

One thing I do with any gun that has FTF issues is I swab out the springs for Wolf X-tra power springs. I bet it was the springs and not the mag body.

I’ve heard of this problem before and I have this gun and experienced the same thing. The workaround that solved the issue for me was higher grain ammo. 120+ will avoid the issue.

If it makes you feel any better, in five years and 5000 rounds, I've never had a failure to feed. Though no feed issues, the plastic collar at the base of the 7rd mags became too easily displaced, preventing the mag from being locked in the well. Epoxy, and some add-on slam pads glued directly to the mag baseplates have fixed it. I haven't seen/heard a single review of the P938 mentioning the problem with the 7rd extension collar, but all three of my 7-rounders failed in the same way, after about 300 rounds through each, and it's a real death jam, as the mag has to be withdrawn, collar slipped up and off the top of the tube, then the mag can be reinserted.

Looks better with the Kimber mag. I have the micro kimber 9mm and love it.

I have had these problems constantly with this pistol. Strangely the only ammo I have never had any kind of feed problem with is aluminum cased ammo (federal)... Go figure. I want to try a Kimber micro 9 mag but noticed they are available in 6,7, and 8 round capacity. Which one fixed your feed problems or would any work? This gun, great on so many ways, has been nothing but a waste of money. If a Kimber mag can fix it I def want to try it asap... Would love to be able to trust this pistol enough to carry. Sending it back to sig was a total waste of time... Sig will never admit they have a defective gun. Thanks

Now that you have an extended mag… You have a longer effective grip on this gun now with another finger around the grip. More stable/firm purchase than with fewer fingers on the shorter grip. Less grip/leverage could lead to somewhat of a limp wrist effect. Why didnt you use a Sig extended grip that most of these 938’s came with for your evaluation? I’ll bet you the 7 round Sig mags would give you better results just like the non-Sig mags did. How about doing Sig a solid and test their extended mags out? And, to eliminate the possibility that its just your technique, let someone else shoot a couple hundred rounds through it with the 6 round mags from Sig. I suspect that the results might surprise you.

I say it was a combination of your the ammo you used didnt like the magazines. Never had any issues with mine.

I have had mine for years, no issues ever! All comments seem to say the same. Weird you seem to be one of the only people with an issue

This is the new Sig quality standard.

I have the p238 called the tribe, and work's just fine.

Why not use the longer Sig mag?

You do know Sig makes extended magazines as well?

maybe 2-3 times per hundred rounds my p238 will stovepipe or fail to go fully into battery no matter the ammo or mags no sure what to do

Thanks. I have the same exact gun with the same problem and also sent to sig twice. It pisses me off that they know these have this issue and basically deny it and blame malfunctions on user error. I was just about to sell it but maybe I’ll try this first. Then again idk because I definitely don’t trust it anymore. I used to like Sig but anytime they respond to a gun issue it’s always in the form of denying the issue exists.they do it with the P320 as well. So I’m done with Sig.

Used Kimberly Micro mags with 8 rounds for the longest time and never had an issue!

Wondering if you tried multiple brands of ammo with the same malfunction result.

Wow, that is crazy!!!

The Kimber micro 9 8 round mag fixed it!!!!!

I had the same problem with a sig 1911, bought some Wilson combat mags, problem solved.

Wife has the 238 & loves it.

Late review, but I have not had any problems with my P938 Equinox. I hav e on e flush standard mag and three Sig extended mags and have no malfunctions in well over 700 rounds. I pounded the hell out of this weapon in prep for the CCW qual every week for over a month without cleaning and lub, and it functioned without a single issue!

If you find my comment (from less than a half hour ago) on your original post, I suggested the possibility that the short grip on the P938 my create, effectively, a limp wrist; not because the wrist was limp, but because the missing pinky finger couldn't leverage the recoil. I suggested this because I am a very small individual with small hands, and my 938 works with both magazines, flawlessly. Your Kimber magazine (if I am correct, which would be a first...), since it is longer, permits you to have more leverage on the bottom of the grip. If you test both magazines (Sig and Kimber) with friends with small hands, you may find your solution there. I hope this works for you, because, from your description in this video, I think my conjecture was correct; your hands are too big to get purchase on the bottom of the grip frame, unless augmented by a longer magazine. Best wishes.

Have same problem. I’m a Glock guy, have many bought my first sig and nothing but disappointing. Cannot trust for carry. Not a single disappointment with my glocks , very frustrating to pay this much for a sub standard gun.

You can’t use just any Micro9 7-round mag. I bought a used, as-new, P938 that will not fire two consecutive rounds - ever. Semi-smokestack failures to eject. Inspired by your video I shopped online for a Micro9 mag and found none like yours that has 2 cutouts for the mag latch - one on each side of the mag. The only models I could find with extensive shopping have just one such cutout, located variously on one side or the other of the mag. Buy the wrong one and the mag cannot lock into place and will just drop out. If the mag swap doesn't work I'll just have to send the gun to Sig and hope for the best.

My 938 is an outstanding firearm!!

I was going to begin using my P938 SAS as my EDC. I will now never change from my P365 SAS

Got the 238 over 1000 rounds no issue every manufacturer kicks out a dud once in a while

My wife has a P938 nightmare , we've never had a problem with it.

Had mine since it first came out, it ate every ammo you can put through it.

It's rumored that the first four years of production, the 9mm version of this gun used " 380 feed ramps".. I've no idea why a 380 feed ramp would be different than a 9mm , but this what's been said.. people with 938s after the 4th year seem to love their pistol. And those first 4 years are plagued with problems. The issue I have and why I won't own a new sig, is because of their garbage customer service and even worse quality control..

Springfield 911 magazines work as well. And are a lot cheaper than Sig magazines.

Mine hasn’t failed me yet and have had it for over 9 years….

Have the P938 SAS and with Sig mags, I have never had a problem. Love the thing! My mags are round mags.

938 IS NY NUMBER ONE CARRY "I LOVE THE GUN " MY 938 HAS HAD NO PROBLEMS , I DO HAVE A KIMBER MAG AND THE END THAT EXTENDS THE GRIP IS EVEN LONGER THEN WHAT YOU HAVE AND YES THE EXTENDED MAGS ARE A LOT NICER FOR HAND COMFORT , SIG ALSO HAS THE EXTENDED MAGS , I HAVE NEVER HAD A MAG THAT HAS GIVEN ME ANY PROBLEM SO JUST THROW AWAY THE ONE THAT DOESN'T WORK RIGHT AND BE HAPPY YOU SOLVED YOUR PROBLEM.

As a shooting instructor that work in gun store and shooting range i help people find their first gun to carry or replace their cary gun I cant advise people to carry this gun and im love zig guns but this gun and the p238 they problematic at least So you can get way better pistols in better price without the problems

weird. I never had any problems with mine.

Weird, I carry a 938, and my wife carries a 238 we have never had issues with either, they both eat anything we feed them no issues. Have you tried Springfield 911 mags, I’m pretty sure they fit the 938 also.