the "and ... that it!" after leaving behind the chainsaw was priceless XD also nice imp triple kill at 6:42

After 30 yrs, the first doom, without ssg, viles and meatballs is still kicking if used right. A true mark of quality.

BMD: Tries several times (unsuccessfully) to strafe run into the secret exit from the high ledge Pumpkin man: ok, but have you tried falling in from the ground?

Romero has a specific way of making maps, this is like going back 30 years.

Near useless chainsaw: *exists* Pumpkin Man: Peace was never an option!

I managed to jump into the secret exit from the back of that building! Cool to see there’s a few different ways of getting there!

It never ceases to amaze me when you two tap the cyberdemons. Every time I try its like four shots at best

2:22 “and that’s it” lol

This video’s upload is really well timed since today, Sigil 2 has been added to the Unity port’s list of addons for both games

Oh no, now that you showed an easy way to reach the secret exit, Romero will patch it! (Although I really, really hope he patches that janky hall and the ledges!) Also, it's cool to see John make a tribute to a Sandy Peterson map since their styles are so different.

Been too busy to start this WAD yet, but enjoying your playthrough of it. Happy belated 30th to this awesome game.

Masterfully done. I had a horrible blind run where I obviously did not find the secret exit.

When I first played this level I accidentally beat it in under minute by running right into what turned out to be the secret exit lol

At first, I was convinced that the "volcano" was the secret Exit, but I expected to find a bunch of sectors looking like Baphomet Exit face from my Automap view. I didn't see anything in my Automap, and decided to move on lmao. And yeah, I was also "bumped" off from those ledges more than I care to remember because of those elastic collisions. E6M6 has some similar ledges, but at least you won't be knocked into an inescapable lava pit.

2:20 the amount of hatred for the weapon that shall not be named is real.

2:26 Yucky sticky tunnels. Reminds me of the earwax tunnel in 'Wild and Crazy Kids' on Nickelodeon back in the 90's. I don't think a television show could have a title like that nowadays...

This one looks a lot more fun than the previous one - no *pointless* cyberdemon hooray! Sticky nasty tunnels could be a cool mechanic if used intentionally ... well not really a mechanic, more atmosphere. Nastly thorny and sap-covered vines in your way type thing. The tunes and visuals in Sigil II have been great so far.

So far, not a single level in Sigil 2 without a Cyberdemon. Romero sure loves his Siege Cows.

this is probably my favorite level soundtrack wise

I still need to do the last two levels, but E6M9 is my favorite map so far, looking forward to seeing it!

Figured out you could lure the cyber to the lower teleport pad that takes you to the light goggles, let him teleport, then telefrag it. ✌️

You can just jump into the secret level from the top where you were thinking of rocket jumping, just approach from the other side of the ledge instead. Note this was in GZDOOM (jumping disabled) so perhaps the physics changes make that possible there while otherwise not possible in DSDA?

Genio!!! Ese secreto de los primeros 30 segundos me faltó y la salida alternativa. Es emocionante estar jugando Doom contemporáneamente. Saludos Decino, desde Chile!

These seem to be much more about figuring out the map rather than classic run and gun maps.

Good one. Mt. Erebus is one of my favorites.

Man those walls were so sticky looks like something for a really rude fight in a tough fight

I said about two minutes in, 'Oh this looks like Romero SIGILed Mt. Erebus.' And lo and behold, 8:00.

Ah I thought the "sticky" tunnels was intentional design like thorns or something lol

I like this map too, but my favorite still E6M6

Top man, yeeeaaaahhhhh waiting for sigil III

This level was way too dark thank goodness for the light amplification goggles.

Chainsaw being ignored, standard. Light goggles being praised, fairly rare and welcome, especially given the room in question.

nice work decino cant wait for the next upload :)

Great map! And great real 100% playthrough with getting all the items.

Somewhere a chainsaw feels unwanted 🤣

Finished SIGIL2 yesterday. And this map is indeed one of the best maps. I really enjoyed SIGIL2. The difficulty spike trough the WAD vary's but i dont mind. Nice playtrough!

Wow, this level was so chaotic when I played it! I must not have been careful, and woke up too many monsters right away. Decino made it seem downright tame.

A rocket.... /ignoring the chainsaw.... and that's it 😂

I actually also did not use a rocket jump. You can jump into the secret exit from the building. Just go a bit further around the building, turn around and you can make the jump.

Nice run pumpkin man

Decino: Takes 20 damaging nukage floor. Also Decino: Screams "WHY!?" like Nancy Kerrigan.

This map felt like Romero's version of Mt. Erebus indeed. 7:20 You can lure the Cyberdemon to the teleporter where goggles are so you can then telefrag him.

Really glad to hear you comment about the collision jank. I was experiencing the same thing and wondering if I had set something incorrectly in my DSDA Doom settings. Nope, that's just how the WAD is. (although I must admit I cannot for the life of me figure out what setting turns off transparent fireballs and soul spheres, nothing appears to be clearly labeled as a transparency toggle, so I'm just dealing with them)

Now those are some sticky walls. 👀 a very dark and oppressive map, very cool!

I had to rewind and watch 5:02 again at 0.25x speed... sigil eye got yeeted lmao

i really struggled with the first room. you need the right strategy or you will be surrounded by cacos and lost souls. the rest is smooth.

0:26 beautiful plasma 💜💜💜

This WAD's Music is absolutely BANGING!!!

All items too, he is so cool.😀

8:04 I was thinking the exact same thing the whole video

I like it.

Big Erebus vibes

"Now this section is a little bit awkward..." That seems to be the tagline for this wad so far!

The song sounds like a remix of South of Heaven, also used for Shawn's Got the Shotgun (Or at least the beginning) Interesting how it was referenced again, if this is the case

Yeah, John uses GZDoom by default these days, and I tend to do the same. (Either that, or LZDoom, since a couple of my computers are kinda old.) He has his playtester group test it in other ports. Also, I noticed there's a typo in the Dehacked patch for this map's name: Desolution, instead of Desolation. As for the references to Mt. Erebus (including the E6M3/E3M6 number swap), it was almost certainly intentional, at least over the course of its development - in the boxed copy of Sigil 2, there's a USB drive, not only with a Making of Sigil 2 video, there's also a book - written by David Craddock - and when the book reaches that map, Mt. Erebus is mentioned. Funny enough - and I remember this now, from the first stream of this map (which no longer exists - the stream wasn't archived) - the lava in this map was originally slime instead. John changed it to lava because he thought it fit better with the overall aesthetic.

@8:55 you can also sr50 into the pit from around where you are supposed to rocket jump. I never remember rocket jumps.

you can jump into the secret exit from the top too

uuu in the moment I played this map I thought the same thing...the reference Erebus on this one!

Can confirm no problems with stickyness in those tunnels in gzdoom

Smash iguanas? Gee, I'd love to! ™️

I'm actually really glad now I started playing eviternity 2 first before continuing sigil 2 mainly for those 30 second secrets because no way would I have worked that out in time already know I missed the one on the second level the secret within a secret dispite actually finding the secret behind the switch which was accidental to be honest so I'll most likely actually play from the beginning again I am happy that I got all but one secret on the first level and as I'm playing on ultra violence watching your videos decino will be most helpful in working out the best way to tackle each level. So as I've said before I only got as far as the second level for this before I stopped it's definitely challenging on ultra violence definitely unforgiving lol design wise from what I've played and seen so far on this video I do like it John R definitely has a style to creating maps which I enjoy not sure how I feel about the secrets that are closed off after 30 second's to be honest and the cyber demon's on each level which I know is only for ultra violence but I dunno like you said on the last level about having a secret bfg at the end of the level to deal with the cyber might have been better rather than having to chaingun it though I understand if he didn't want players to have the bfg early but at the same time knowing that a cyber demon is going to be on each level I would have thought that most players would likely save the bfg to deal with the cyber demon but I dunno I still enjoyed what I've played so far which is the main point and if it does get too hard then I can always turn down the difficulty but yeah anyway I do hope that you get to play eviternity 2 as well though decino it has been really good so far the level design is amazing as it was in the first one been really fun I don't want to spoil anything incase you do play it but all I'll say is that there are some New things in it and I'll leave it at that other than as always Cheers for the upload decino

I knew there was something with that red rocks, but when I played it blind, I was at very low health to try a rocket jump

This map was more straight forward than the first two. If it weren't for my skill issue, I would have done this first try, but I lost to the cyberdemon by trying to distract him with cacos so I could two tap him in peace.

You can telefrag the Cyberdemon as well if you kite him to the teleport that brings you to the goggles. Once he is up there just take the teleport and done.

At the last fight you can actually telfrag the Cyberdemon. Walk on the ledge and, when he wakes up, run to the teleporter that sends you to the stairs. From there you just take the teleporter back to telefrag him.

7:04 Looking at this Level, it reminds me of Hexen

I made the secret exit jump from the building, first try, without rocket jumping. I felt it was a secret exit because of Mt Erebus. Nice South-of-heaven-esque midi and ammo balancing

Not going to lie, I didn't mind the sticky tunnel. It felt like doomguy having squeeze his way through a tight cavern having to press his back and chest between the walls and force his way through.

I can confirm GZDoom does not have the "sticky tunnels" problem.

Romero really loves his 20 damaging floors, huh?

So far, all of the maps looks pretty small. Romero really is not wasting any real estates over here.

E6M3, to name it properly, "Mt. Erebus, but retextured (including the janky sky), and with yet another title obtained by randomly stringing words together".

i havent played Doom in like 15 years, i have my floppy disks and the cds still from when i was a kid but its been so long.. and im so used to wsda these days, funny thing is is took mer forever to get off arrow keys and , . and so forth wayyy back then... But when i tried to play doom the old way i just couldnt.. so i use GZ doom

You can also jump into the secret exit from the building without a rocket (at least in GZDoom).

it doesnt surprise me that with all that gore and gunk, the walls are sticky

Random question. What's the armor rating of the armor bonus pickups?

I do wonder if there's ZDoomisms at hand, because the sky texture could easily be such an error, displaying fine in ZDoom ports but breaking otherwise. Thing is, he didn't do that kind of error for the first Sigil, and it seems like a limitation he would be well aware of, so that feels odd. The narrow and sticky hallway seems like a deliberate design decision though, but it calls for some peril to make the gimmick worth it. The ledge which bumps you off if you're not careful is ABSOLUTELY on purpose, he's doing that to screw with the player, and I love that honestly.

The text doc that comes with the wad says he developed this using gzdoom

Plasma and BFG in this map makes the E2 cyber fight even weirder to nerf

At first I thought the sticky walls was part of the design as the textures looks like goo, so that fits well, but now it doesn't seem that intentional when it happened even in the other place. Shame haha

Who made these 30 second secrets? Jigsaw?

"20 damaging floor" is a lot indeed, but I guess people simply burn in hell. 😐 I must say I like the original Doom ( Abandoned Mines, sometimes ) feeling of this wad. Maybe I say that because I know who made it? Maybe.

mt erebus is underrated imho

great job again! is the 20% damage on the floor every time you get it? or is it random how much you get up till 20? because you ended up at 185% after getting damage by the floor. you were on 200. never mind, you had 5% armor.

baron more hp that cyberdemon what the freak

The sky text seems messes up 😮

It would have been good, after finishing the map, showing how the walls push you to the inescapable pit.

Might be a small thing but the sky texture doesn't repeat correctly. Someone will have probably noticed or mentioned this.

Sigil 2 got spoiled for me the second I realized Eviternity 2 just dropped.

The only thing I'm not vibing with this wad so far is the skybox, and not because it's visually broken. Sigil's aesthetics don't mesh with such a vivid blue. If you extrapolate a bit, the sticky walls make sense. There's a whole hedge of branches growing over those walls, those snag like there's no tomorrow.

The game is punishingly dark in terms of being able to see

Any chance to sneak a bastión of chaos run into the rotation/schedule?

Have you tried the first map with the 30sec secret? That's not campy, quite the opposite, actually fun when it works.

I know it doesn't affect most, but if you play with controller or just keyboard, the Sigil eyes are difficult to hit

i thought this was gonna be a doom 2 wad

decino, what happened to the skybox being kinda awkward? Is it also a compatibility thing?

Sticky walls to pretend speedrunners :D Nice tactic John!

yo quick question decino how can i make dsda only show kills and secrets like how your hud is? i just cant find out anywhere.

Sky not tiling

Have you played the entire wad? What are your thoughts or are you keeping them for the end of the series?