I can listen to Georgie the whole day....he is articulate and calm

Oscar you need to heal from that heartbreak. Your decision is from a point of fear. You have built a wall and armour around you because the thought of one domino falling scares you. Just heal. You are an amazing guy.

Loving the new intro, it’s a mark of growth and we’re here for the journey ❤️ I have some constructive feedback to share, would Over25 be willing to adjust the sitting layouts for large panel discussions? Something like a round table discussion with different camera angles would do wonders for the chemistry by helping the whole cast maintain eye contact with each other without the constant straining of look back

When George says “there is a box”….Then he continues the lost and found. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Guys why not make it a round table talk. It’s be great to look at each other’s expressions while you converse

Lornzie's hair is on point 💕

Can I please just hire Eli to be the voice in my head? I talk to myself alot!!! Would be a really nice feature that one!

I am Oscar and Oscar is me. Hahaaa. But I'm on the extreme because I don't want the benefits of relationships/sex. Being single has made me aware that I don't want to put any/ALL my energy into anyone but myself..I want selective experience, which then would make me a lousy lover... my journey might change because to be human is to change and I think deep connection is a vital human experience but so far, this is my truth.

Thank you Ivy for saying that we can have happy marriages without wanting children.

Nobody: Ivy 99% of the video: 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Oscar made some valid points tho he made me feel on edge and under so much pressure to prove my worth as a woman like a relationship with him feels like a test.i think one major thing us women want to feel with a guy is ease,we want to be able to let go while still being self conscious.i still respect the fact that,that is what works for him.

George should lead this conversation. He is very articulate .

Interesting Episode ! Personally I avoid men like Oscar because I find them confused. Sometimes being too woke and self aware doesn’t reflect on the reality of life. Emotions and vulnerability are necessary in normal relationships.

Glad that Oscar said he might do therapy at the end of the talk... He is hurt! Sending hugs y'all 🤗🤗

I had thought that Ivy was all about creating wealth and making money but when she said that our worth is not material stuff that really touched my heart❤ Loved the conversation especially hearing the totally different perception from us that guys have.

Oscar is proof that the most guarded people are the most loving and they have the most to offer. He is just fearful because of his history....I hope he heals because the womans he will wife will be lucky

It’s not a woman’s responsibility, obligation to earn a man respect, ranking, or a place in society. We aren’t accessories. That’s an individual’s responsibility and pursuit.

I really Love the New Over 25 Channel Intro. Jules, Lornzie, Ivy and Shikkie keep doing the good work. Am your Biggest Fan💌💌💃💃💃

Protecting also is not always physical. When a man can protect you against words from friends and family in private and in public, it is the most valuable aspect. This is especially when he might not necessarily be a physically big person to fight for you.

Eli said "may be for him he is actually protecting you by not professing until y'all reach at a certain stage" I FELT THAT.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I want to really bash the point Oscar was making about respect in your peer group. While it may be true that men do accord each other “respect” based on the value they bring to the table , I think it’s very necessary to have friends in your life with whom there’s no need to view each other through those lens. This is especially relevant within your inner, close circle (you know those two , three people who are really your people). Because the moment all your relationships,including your inner most circle , are based on hierarchy and respect , you start to lose the very essence of what true friendship is!

Oscar is so contradictory. Ultimately, he wants to get so high that when he dates low it’s not that low. Where he is currently, in his mind and perspective, dating low would be too low. He is chasing a high that if not well directed, will lead into a terribly chaotic path.

Jules asked if the guys that are "On a journey" like Oscar, still want the benefits of a relationship. The way Oscar flee from that question using flattery was just impressive.

George Ndirangu was the MVP on this one!

Oscar is literally telling it as per the men on the ground, Lorna was right Eli and George don't represent the sample we have in the streets, most men we have been involved in have said what Oscar was saying but we forced our narrative. I enjoyed his perspective because it was a more realistic to my situations, i am yet to meet an Eli so i can't speak on unicorn situation I personally resonate more with Oscar's logic and thought process. Good collaboration.

This Georgie guy is quite the catch. Articulate, calm and collected. 🤗 😘🎉

Oscar is overdoing it... Eli mmmh the listener but when speaks he oozes wisdom.. Georgie you guy... Always on top of your game.

The one stunt that is wicked is being introduced to family yet you're not the only one. 🥴🥴

Jules is the representative of character development on women Enjoyed the episode We should be having more male guests We learn so much

Oscar mentioned kobe & Vanessa Bryant & I’ve noticed that many urban middle class Kenyans seem to have this obsession with US celebrities & their lifestyles. However, for those that live or have lived in the US, we know that 99.9% of Americans don’t live like them. And Kenyans living in Kenya need to stop comparing themselves to these US celebrities. Is this what’s causing their depression? You think your life should be like Kim kardashian or Kanye or Beyoncé? In Kenya? It’s nice to admire these people. I get that but don’t compare yourselves or expect your lives in Kenya to be like theirs - even for Americans Living IN America, it’s not their reality.

I could listen to Eli all day all week!

Oscar is in that state of mind where one has a calm and peaceful mind. Very few get there , I am there and I know the feeling, you don't want people to come in and disrupt the reality you've built. So you vet people (also women) thoroughly before including them in your life. Also the other thing that happens is you start attracting people like fluorescent bulb to moths, when you aren't even trying.

Jules deserves a dude like Georgy... They'd make a sweet harmonious couple

I once found my stuff in a black polythene bag under my man's bed.This is an eye opener..Ladies,good job...

George Ndirangu is very articulate his approach is gold

Wow! Brilliant conversation. Oscar is a softie at heart and he's guarding it, that's what I see. You guys make me want to come to Nairobi so badddd. Love from Nigeria!

Yaaaas, new intro... I love these ladies yawa, I've learnt alot from this girl group. Good work ladies

I liked today's topic but I feel like we didn't get so many points as clearly. Oscar Kept drifting away then Georgie would try get back to the 'signs' bit of the topic. Oscar sounds so technical (like too hard on himself and others) in this journey. I resonated with Georgie's perception, sounds realistic and easy. Everyone made a valid argument all in all.

This has been the best Collabo yet. I really enjoyed the conversation and I agree with Oscar aswell. When you work on yourself you attract better relationships and people on the same wavelength as you. That’s a very Mature perspective. Also I dont disagree with growing together only one has to be wise not to be entangled in a "project Situation" whereby you are using so much strength helping your Partner grow and you end up giving too much of yourself. It's exhausting. Id rather we meet both whole and complement and Support each other and expand our empire. After all you attract who you are not what you want!!

Ivy adding a partnership can also be beautiful without kids!!!!!!!!!!! Mad respect for recognizing childfree people.

Great episode! Love the new intro. I really resonated with Oscar, I think he needed to dive deep into what 'the journey' means to him. I like the way he explains things with so much depth, beautiful mind. I hope he continues healing and finds what he is looking for but also he should let go of the idealism, he is bound to be disappointed because no one is perfect and humans are unpredictable, the journey never stops, so you won't find someone who is completely done working on themselves and found some sort of enlightenment. Georgie and Eli were a joy to listen to. I don't know if men in Nairobi are actually this well-adjusted and self-aware, I feel like they represent a very very small sample. Please have more of these conversations with men, as women, we are often in an echo chamber and we don't realise we are wrong sometimes.

Jules has made a great point about wanting men to communicate where they are and what they want. That's where people lose the signal. However, I found that in life, don't wait for anyone to tell you anything. They don't know what you need to know, and people make a lot of wrong assumptions about each other. I think the safest and most sure way to know something is to ask the right questions. So learning what information you want to garner is important. I also add that do not rely100% on answers being valid, have many ways of validating someone's answers. If you don't ask and you don't tell you end up making silent agreements. No Bueno. Great episode girls. As for Oscar and Eli I think they suffer from analysis paralysis. I work in risk management and I can tell you, you can't anticipate all the risks 100% of the time. It's enough to know how to mitigate so better to build the skills to mitigate, and the rest is actually living. A lot of life is learned by looking backwards, and then you use it as input for better decisions. You also can't base your entire life on other people's experiences (mentors, young fathers etc.) For maybe slightly older people, it's great that there wasn't an influx of self-development movements when they were growing up and you learned by doing. It has its advantages such as living life on your own terms and not what is considered a ready-made template by society. I think one of the best skills one can have today is learning how to be adaptive, and embrace change at whatever point. It's like great design, take Apple, their products evolved over time but they had the courage to launch the first time. So don't be a non-starter because you want to get it right/perfect the first time. It's an illusion and just repackaged anxiety.

The biggest coward is a man who awakens a woman's love without the intention of loving her-Bob Marley.. Journey people..and people who are finding themselves...avoid those people. And people who don't return hoodies...avoid those people

It's the intro for meee🥺🥺❤️❤️mad love......am 21 and the fact that I get to learn alot from y'all big sisters means alot...grateful

Its the new intro for me...recognising individualism and celebrating the wins in togetherness

I respect how self aware and committed to his growth Oscar is. And George wow, I loved this panel so much. Thank you Over25.

Loving this convo... came at the nick of time!... Thank you everyone. Over 25 great job!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

I bumped on this episode on twitter, great show, amazing editing, nice insights. As a guy I have a two part comment after watching it: Part One - Oscar is looking for a woman that doesn't exist. I like that he's self aware and all, but he's also too materialistic and has Destination Addiction (the belief that you'll be fulfilled when all stars align, and they never allign) - Georgie is the realest. It also explain why he's made it that far in life. While he has his standards he seems malleable, which helps a lot in long term relationships. Rigidity never works long term. - Eli is a perfectionist. He's waiting for the right time which never comes. He's also very smart, and smart people overthink everything sometimes to a point of paralysis. You need a lot of blinders to make the bold moves in relationships. Part Two This is a great channel. But what you people didn't stress enough in this episode is the role of desire, which can't be negotiated. Everybody knows men will move mountains for the woman they see a future with. Like the example from the lady in orange, once desire fades that's when men start playing games; ghosting, telling lies, cheating or taking you in endless circles. Finally, this is the first generation where some men have prolonged adolscence INDEFINITELY. So he may be 30, 35 or 40 and have his reasons for not settling down, but the truth is he's a self-centered man child in perpetual dating mode. It's just unfortunate that women realize this when it's too late.

Loved LOVED this episode to the point where I almost grabbed a pen and notebook to take notes! However, I couldn’t help but notice that some points from the gents got lost along the way, so this is my official petition for a part 2, please and thank you! Great job guys 😊

"decisions that compound well." 😭 the call out‼️I was about to get a slice of bread to keep me company and I had to sit down and think about it first😂😂 those on their healthy living/weight-loss journey grind understand!

OMG I can no longer multi task when watching Over25!! I need a notebook and a pen. The GEMS!!! Also please please my sistas, can we have a video about TwinderSwindler since its the month of 'love'

Man talk...everywhere you go you leave such value!!! We women really need to hear healthy empowered talks. We hear so much other bs that this is sooo refreshing. This episode and the ones you did with TMI are on REPEAT!!! We love to have you everywhere!! Thanks over25 for this collaboration as well!! ❤🔥

Ok.Oscar got so personal and so out of topic but but I enjoyed the episode

It's the synced leg cross for me 😂😂😂

This was really fresh, authentic and eye opening. It is interesting and somewhat validating to hear Oscar's contribution about his journey. Something not many may grasp unless they are on a similar treacherous journey to becoming their best self. Oscar, please keep on doing the self work & development - keep on putting in the work. People may not necessarily value or see the hidden work - they just see the package - but only you know the cost. You keep leveling up to your higher spec version, you'll find your tribe.

I've really learnt a lot from this! And I agree this particular one has done a lot of healing on my part, love from Ghana 🇬🇭🇬🇭💕💕

Watching with a pen and paper. The words! I like how these guys are defending their points with so much clarity that actually makes sense. Control of words 💯

I looooooooved this episode!!! Your best one yet ladies and the growth is visible 🧡 and your guests were just on point!

This was excellent! We need them back for more videos!

Da Intro! Consistency you are definitely going to 500k.gals keep da spirit!

Defining the prime and attaching the value......EPIC. Y'all are amazing and it's always great being here

Yesss! I've been waiting for this🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳 thank you! Also love the new intro. I LOVE YOU GUYS❤️❤️❤️

The level of excitement I have on seeing Mantalk Ke with you guys is unmatched🤩

Finally.... ive really been waiting for this particular episode great love for mantalk and over 25 ofcourse

I love the honesty in this episode's conversation!! I'm approaching 25 and relating more with your content from 2017!! Sending hugs to y'all out online big sisters❤

I disagree with Oscar but understand his POV. Brilliant collabo episode!

"There's a pain that hurts and a pain that alters" I felt that line🌺🌺

There's pain that hurts and pain that alters. That part.

You’ve got to appreciate the quality of this video 🔥🔥🔥

Hugs to Jules, seems so much has happened to you, love you ladies and the men were on point hope to have them around more often. Ladies, you look amazing always and thank you for the episode💌

Oh mannnn! The finger snaps for this video……. Whoooooooshh! Job well done and Executed!! This is definitely on my ‘watch later’ playlist!

The new intro. Okurrrr! Now let me watch the episode. I also peek Georgie Ndirangu. Woot woot!

Love love love this episode. These guys are self aware and comfortable with their emotions, I love that they have each other.

Great episode,amazing conversation.Oscar is giving chaotic emotional energy, i hope he truly heals and is not so hard on himself and his image before taking babes on "journey's " because hurt people hurt people.

love it, the light skinned guy just blew my mind any time he speaks, so thoughtful!

I don't know about you💁🏾‍♀️ but I 🙋🏾‍♀️ thoroughly enjoyed the whole conversation. I have heard of the points from books, podcasts and other avenues. However, this hit different. It felt more humanized, balanced with experience, knowledge and intentional self awareness. Some points could have put me off before but I found myself internalizing and willing to hear out the why do they think like that. My cup is full. Thank you. Great job ladies and gentlemen and to more growth. 🍾

I immediately fell in love with you guys ever since I started watching you guys. keep the good work, you have lots of fans in Rwanda.

Georgie, Jules and Ivy😍❤..all my favs together on set! I love it!

Good work guys but I think the journey is continuous we have value Even in our struggles Oscar seems to be looking for a perfectionst lakini I like the way IVy advised him.

It's the new intro for me!!! Glad to see you girls growing and glowing over the years. 🤗

Britain English has made me more alert lest I miss important points. Good job guys, I am a huge fan of Man Talk KE. this collaboration was so powerful.

Bring Georgie back!! He needs more airtime.

Loving the episode, the intro is amazing the collaboration is everything 💯 Is it just me or Eli is looking at Jules in a really cute way 🔥🔥🔥

I love the way the boys are articulate and well spoken......

..We def want these gents back..too much knowledge

Hi my name is Dara. I just wanted to say that really appreciate each and everyone of your perceptions. Each of you individually as women first and foremost especially Black African women are inciting dialogue and are courageously diving into topics that need deeper translation. I mean this with the utmost respect please keep doing what your doing for we need more conversations like this. If I may please contact you in some way and I know it's strange because we are not familiar with each other at all but please I would love to just have a conversation with you please and thank you. God bless and keep inspiring us.

The best episode so far,I know I keep on saying this on every of your videos but yoh!...I love the men too, running to their channel 🏃🏃❤️❤️

Such a great insightful rich discussion !! We should definitely bring more men to the table to share and give their perspectives . It is so refreshing to see guys who are so self aware, conscious and intentional about women and relationships .Well done!

I agree with Georgie - professing without actions is 👌🏾. I disagree with Eli. Even if you say certain things but your actions don't match your words then it's misleading. So yes, Koome I think men are to blame for a girl building a certain narrative. You can't say "I don't want a relationship" but you're taking a girl out on dates, friend hangouts, romance her... Your actions are the total opposite. Over 25, I loved this episode. 😍 Also like your new intro. 😌

When Jules and Ivy crossed legs at the same time😂... aaah😍😍😍😍

I love the new intro... its sooooo fun - i literally re-watched it a few times

The new intro you guys....is dope!!! I loved this panel, the vibe is soo good, we would love more from this panel combo

The man in Black's Trauma/ POV > Metaverse/ internet/ err..thing!!! 😁😁😁 ( I'm Ivy's expression through out!!) Another banger , Over25. Salute

someone needs to talk about the body language on this video! so much was said non-verbally...

The new intro is there very bomb!!!!!! Its sooooo coool that y'all's distinct personalities shiiine!

Love the new intro... am rewinding again and again!

Just Ivy today was quite low and she shown and gave that energy to the audience. She was so disoriented and kept checking her phone and even texting. I hope she will come out of it better.😍

Listen!! It's the intro for me!! Love it!

Loving the new into so much, for the day 1s changing intros is always a think. Tumetoka mbali for real

Cool conversation. My thoughts on this is sometimes we let fears hold us back to experience life in general and in this context in relationships. It is great to know your value & your self-worth and be self-aware and be in your journey but what is the point of life experiences if we are fearful: i feel it’s better present and open and not be fearful to want to experience relationships because we fear that it will not work out but we sometimes forget that the outcome of any relationship whether good or bad , we do learn from it and grow. Growth occurs everyday and fear holds us back from experiencing it. Shit happens everyday in life and your attitude towards “shit happened” is what’s creates the trajectory to the growth that we all want to become the best versions. And sometimes that fear does make us miss on someone amazing or an invaluable experience.