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@MrScalesie3 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing Ben Johnson saying that he never failed a test until he changed shoe company. Might not just countries that have the power to influence the tests
@andersgustavsson82323 жыл бұрын
Nike Oregon project
@MrScalesie3 жыл бұрын
@Eight Francs is it on KZfaq?
@55cleon2 жыл бұрын
Without A Doubt!
@casefarley57443 жыл бұрын
An honest, judgement-free conversation about this is important. It's big step and I'm not ready so I am going to watch some professional cycling instead.
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being open and honest Case.
@BrianKellyisGay3 жыл бұрын
Professional Weightlifting is basically professional Cycling
@andrewcheng28523 жыл бұрын
True
@Alexandre1990zhao3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKellyisGay So I think French, English cyclists are all doping, right?
@teok77352 жыл бұрын
maybe you are just referring to lance armstrong, but right now there are aome extremely young and powerful riders, as well as absolute freaks bagging victories left and right, whereas in cycling that should be jnheard of
@smolmaninthepeakdistrict50693 жыл бұрын
Don't change lads. The channel is going to grow, don't let that stop you being dangerous.
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
That means a lot! Thank you!
@sirjozo_8170 Жыл бұрын
fucking hell i tought it would be a chanel close to a mill of subs now
@drewe513 жыл бұрын
Half the weight lifters had been banned previously and come back. Lasha got a ban as a junior, right? Then just kept going up, despite "getting clean." Must've been all that chicken, broccoli, and rice.
@musashimiyamoto89983 жыл бұрын
Yeah lasha got suspended for two years due to doping... Then came back and absolutely SMASHED his old record were he was doping ... Like bruh 😂😂
@danielj.zubiagonzalez35023 жыл бұрын
No, Lasha is absolutely clean though. Only athletes from China, Russia are doping. Just kidding, he's obviously on some heavy shit. Heavier than the shit everyone else is on, and either experimental or so obscure that the tests can't detect it yet. He'll surely pop somewhere in the upcoming years, or maybe not. Either way we enjoy seeing him lifting those heavy weights.
@Kiido113 жыл бұрын
Tier Tree, because, as MPMD would say: "They're sauced out of their friggin' tree!"
@ClayTJohnson3 жыл бұрын
@Lei Feng - 雷锋同志 Haha. They're sauced to the gills
@edwardr88263 жыл бұрын
@Lei Feng - 雷锋同志 China sent 8 weightlifters to the Olympics and 7 won gold in the most doped up sport in sports and broke 6 World Records. You have to truly be blinded by nationalism to not see the sketchiness.
@DarthBane-zf8wv3 жыл бұрын
Course it’s the Chinese guy denying it 😂
@aparker873 жыл бұрын
The antler placement on the wall is impeccable (2:30)
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
He does it on purpose, I swear!
@wendell36103 жыл бұрын
Is it fair that Eoin doesn't get a pair of antlers?
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wendell, I've been saying the exact same thing!
@DartAleks3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I wanted to ask the same question.
@0223eoin3 жыл бұрын
Gender equality for the sika deers. Eoin took it upon himself to be the Doe to Daires Stag
@edwardr88263 жыл бұрын
@@sikastrength You guys are putting the US in the same bucket as other countries sometimes in order to not hurt any feelings and single anybody out and I get it, but Carl Lewis was from over 30 years ago. There are undoubtedly countries with certain characteristics that are more likely to dope than other's.
@christomlinson60683 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a breakdown of all the weight classes both male and female and see what you think would be attainable lifts and totals if they were natural, would be interesting to compare it to all the lifts and totals from the Olympics
@Patchesmcgee1233 жыл бұрын
Honestly, where do you think the events of the past 4 years leave weightlifting in 2024? Will we just see the usual Bulgarians and Romanians held out as scapegoats while China and Lasha set WR's or will Tier 1 lifters ever have a chance at Olympic Gold in any class?
@qinzhang94403 жыл бұрын
This is such interesting topic. As a Chinese weightlifting fan i have some fun facts and thoughts. Right before 2008 Beijing Olympic the Chinese government hired a very advanced antidoping test agency and conducted scrutinized tests over all Chinese athletes, because it would simply be disgraceful as the games were in China. It’s safe to say there was no complicity in 2008. But still 3 weightlifting gold medalists were found positive in 2017. And they are all trained under the same coach who were later banned for life. Which made me realize that the Chinese weightlifting team does not operate in a unity. Each coach had their own strategies, resources or a dope supplier. Even when the government explicitly asked them not to dope, the coaches may had their own scheme. the motivation to dope does not necessarily come from the athletes or the government, it may comes from the coach. Since only one contestant can go to the olympics in each weight class, the competition exists among both athletes and coaches.
@yuema20783 жыл бұрын
actually each country can only send max 4 male and 4 female athletes under olympics rules, so not one for each weight classes.
@danielj.zubiagonzalez35023 жыл бұрын
@@yuema2078 isn't the max 4 per sex max a new rule though?
@1baby3 жыл бұрын
This is true, it was this inter-sport politics that lead to Liao Hui getting caught for boldenone after he was setup.
@qinzhang94403 жыл бұрын
@@yuema2078 I mean to win more gold medals China only send one for each class.
@magicmagus14593 жыл бұрын
@@qinzhang9440 ok bots, i know u r trying to sway the narrative. But anyone who isnt a ccp bot clearly knows the ccp forces chinese athletes to dope from a young age before they even enter the olympics. Even the sports that the chinese athletes choose is heavily tailored to maximize medals. In USA, you compete out of your own free will and passion for the sport, whereas in China you are forced to compete in a certain sport and forced to dope. no one respects even china medals. USA even supported their athletes who dropped out citing mental health reasons, if chinese athletes even thought about this they would "disappear". One gold medal from a poor country is worth more than china's total medal tally. Cheating ur way to the top will never be respected. It isnt a coincidence that china won many gold medals in 2008 olympics where they could control the outcomes. Even though we all know u r trying to control and change the narrative, it will be hard cuz there are censors and distractions unlike the chinese internet.
@abhishekkrishnan15282 жыл бұрын
Drug testing isn't really just a massive hindrance. Even in American collegiate athletics, there are so many easy ways to get around drug testing (I know this from first-hand experience).
@112358miau Жыл бұрын
But...werent american weightlifters the only cean team? Wasnt that the reason behind their lack of medals for years?
@Jo-oe3pi Жыл бұрын
Nah those crossfitters are juiced to the tits
@davidkinslow Жыл бұрын
@@112358miauno to be harsh American weightlifters just suck. People really neglect of thinking how gifted these other athletes outside the country are before doping them. We will get 1 every few million Americans that will give a sport like this time to become a world level athlete. On top of that the American has to be gifted physically with the dedication he or she gives. Female weightlifters in America are actually really great though. America also dosent fund a sport like weightlifting as much as other sports via basketball football etc.
@davidkinslow Жыл бұрын
@@112358miaualso a recent American athlete that got popped was Ian Wilson and everyone was convinced he was natty for years.
@ix_9_ix11 ай бұрын
@@davidkinslowfacts, if america held weightlifting as high of a regard as it did sprinting, it would most likely be a top country similar to China or Russia or Bulgaria is in Weightlifting. For a country to be great at sports it effectively needs a geneticly diverse population in order to increase the chances of having elite genetics, but it also has to funnel those elite genetics into a system for them to be effective. There is a reason why when big, wealth, countries invest in a certain sport, they become very good at it
@brendansaltvick58243 жыл бұрын
They’re success is due to the fact they eat clen and tren hard.
@gustavhviid46733 жыл бұрын
Dumb as I am I was about to comment on your spelling… Fucking hell, hahaha!
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
I also read this as the correct spelling and thought here we fucking go 🤣
@brendansaltvick58243 жыл бұрын
@@sikastrength 😄😄😄😄
@gustavhviid46733 жыл бұрын
@@sikastrength glad I’m not the only one! Couldn’t handle more people not accepting how doped the athletes are 😂.
@ConnoisseurOfExistence3 жыл бұрын
tren hard indeed... :D
@harkain10173 жыл бұрын
I watched this video and I'm like "wow this is a lot more pleasurable viewing experience"
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha yes. Alex will be chuffed.
@tommiller53623 жыл бұрын
An honest, fascinating insight into why and how certain athletes arrive the training hall looking like they’ve holidayed on the Planet Krypton. These guys are on fire. Every video they have done since moving into the new Ministry of SikaTruth HQ is flipping fantastic. Also, keep the new editor
@papa_kez66023 жыл бұрын
"what do people twist, nipples?" - gurph 2021
@KL894523 жыл бұрын
*googles definition of Freudian slip* . . ... Nailed it! (pardon the pun)
@dpeden21303 жыл бұрын
15:15 the IOC twisted his arm, not nipples, to milk him
@weightedsumwl3 жыл бұрын
Sikastan follows the 10 tier, you gotta be doped just to enter the country
@atrumluminarium3 жыл бұрын
You gotta be doped to be born there
@haofan42673 жыл бұрын
How about cover some other sports also, like, swimming? I think for some reason there are too many western athletes having asthma and doing “legal doping”
@kimborampage3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it just so happens that 95% of elite endurance athletes have asthma.
@joblinboom92213 жыл бұрын
Can you confirm the rumors that Under Armour has you signed to a six-figure endorsement? Enjoyed the video. Great work as always lads.
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
There is no comment at this time. The Sikastan branch of UA is NOT despite recent rumours confirmed.
@terrencebeers71053 жыл бұрын
“We just don’t care” reality slapping some people.
@viggoolofsson47793 жыл бұрын
Hard to hear exactly what is being said over Fitz DEAFENING breathing
@trtnec3 жыл бұрын
we all know elite Olympians dope (in sports where the risk-reward is there) and there's probably a Chinese doping program (though "I've been hearing" doesn't count as evidence), but that doesn't explain their weightlifting dominance. China dominates sports like diving, ping pong and badminton where PED benefits are marginal at best, and dominate those even more than they do weightlifting, in the case of the first two, far, far more than weightlifting, and those two have probably the least benefit from PEDs. Their infrastructure for these sports is probably what matters far more given that everyone is cheating to various degrees.
@nyycbd78973 жыл бұрын
@@22448824 because China cares most about the total number of golds and weightlifting/table tennis/diving/gymnastics allow them to train and select kids from a large talent pool since very young age and you get maximum number of medals per capita. Look at other team sports such as soccer and basketball where you have to invest much more money to coach a whole team for a single medal, you see team China being not as dominant if at all.
@trtnec3 жыл бұрын
@@22448824 Actually, if anything, the Chinese dominance in only small to mid classes is moderate evidence that doping is LESS pervasive as most think - as the super heavies get the most benefit from steroid abuse since they can pack on endless mass with little to no concern for maintaining weight. But then again, China dominates all women's classes including super heavy, so maybe that point is moot. None of this changes the fact that since everyone at the top is on PEDs it means that the PED variable is (mostly) controlled for, and that the most likely reason for their success is a strategy built around focusing on sports with the most medals, as evidenced by their even further dominance in traditionally non-PED-based sports.
@kimborampage3 жыл бұрын
@@trtnec wrong. Everyone is on PEDs but as said in the video, their 3 dopers use gear into and during competition unlike their 2 who have to stop. The PED use is therefore not controlled for.
@trtnec3 жыл бұрын
@@kimborampage again, there's two things - China being "tier 3" is all pure speculation without any hard evidence (hence why I said "I've been hearing" doesn't count as evidence) and these tiers are invented just for the purposes of this video. What we do have is strong evidence of PED use by other nations in weightlifting, and I'll even grant that China is as bad. Let's just assume they are the worst for your argument's sake (which again there's no evidence for other than results) - but then my 2nd point is they dominate three other sports far more than weightlifting, in which PED use has almost no benefit and given risk-reward would make no sense to use. When you take these two points together, it's clear that PED use is not the main driver for their dominance in any given sport.
@kimborampage3 жыл бұрын
@@trtnec well then you’re also speculating that these other sports don’t benefit from PEDs. And just because they do well in these sports means that they don’t juice hard in weightlifting? You’re not making sense.
@richardleewz3 жыл бұрын
"Lifters from this country can't be doping because look at how often they get tested!" *Broderick Chavez has entered the chat*
@zennappi3 жыл бұрын
Italy is sus af atm. Opinions?
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
If it walks like a duck If it quacks like a duck If it looks like a duck It's probably a juiced up duck...
@disacane84593 жыл бұрын
i dont care im happy to finally see italians in weightlifting. Forza italia!!
@zennappi3 жыл бұрын
True, good to see europeans medal in olympics at weightlifting.
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
@@zennappi yeah I mean, fuck it, i like how the Italians lift.
@zennappi3 жыл бұрын
@@sikastrength ye I got it :D
@dconvention85683 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, I remember the Ben Johnson, 1988 Seoul debacle. I also cringe at the Dubin Inquiry that followed. Poor Ben Johnson and all the other athletes who testified publicly and were vilified. No other country in the world had the integrity or stupidity to do what Canada did. I felt if Canada wanted an inquiry, do it in private; Don't ruin a dude's life! I have watched a few documentaries about that the 1988 final, and just how many athletes in that final were juiced. And Carl Lewis....barf... Ben remains gold in my books. Love your videos! Keep doing more of this kind of content.
@ConnoisseurOfExistence3 жыл бұрын
There are videos on youtube of CJ Cummings lifting some impossible weights at 16 years old and looking skinny like hell... It's such an empty myth that American lifters are not doping...
@roofuscunnilingus80493 жыл бұрын
He's black so he's natty, assuming otherwise would be racist
@ConnoisseurOfExistence3 жыл бұрын
@@roofuscunnilingus8049 :D
@0077viewtube3 жыл бұрын
@@roofuscunnilingus8049 that's so funny
@HkFinn833 жыл бұрын
Nobody thinks they’re ‘natty’ but they don’t use the way Russians and Chinese do, and if they ever get caught they’ll be hung out to dry, whereas people from other places will be supported by their country
@jamesbedwell87933 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's how it works in Sikastan but everyone knows China would never condone doping, the Chinese government has never done anything shady in its existence and all the Chinese athletes are stand up guys who I know personally. I think everything you've said is wrong and for that reason I have liked, commented, and subscribed...
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
Uggghhh actually bro, no Sikastan lifter has ever failed a drug test. Any positives are planted by the western capitalist pigs!
@clarkkant53223 жыл бұрын
@@joek7031 You don't seem to have gotten the point yet. They all fucking dope, some are better at it than others, but it happens everywhere. That's what "tier 1 athletes are few and far between" means.
@joek70313 жыл бұрын
@@clarkkant5322 calm down snow flake, I just made the point the biggest dopers are in the west even with their clout and hypocrisy..
@Mike-bt3ki3 жыл бұрын
China sends 8 athletes to Tokyo for weightlifting and they all medal. 7 Golds, 1 Silver... Their success is partially due to drugs (We would like to think they are natural because it is the Olympics) but also the Chinese sport system is different. They pick kids most of the time younger than 10 who are deemed to be genetically gifted or show talent in a specific sport. These kids train 5-7 days a week. When you have a population of over 1 billion people the competition would be immense. So not only do they have a strict training program, the top athletes are no stranger to tough competition. You look at sports like table tennis and diving no one in the world even comes close at times. China has over 100000 active competitive lifters.
@edwardr88263 жыл бұрын
It's the mainly drugs for weightlifting though. They literally just said so in the video. "China sends 8 athletes to Tokyo for weightlifting and they all medal. 7 Golds, 1 Silver..." How does nobody bat an eye to this. Like are they thinking it but not saying it?
@Mike-bt3ki3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardr8826 China has had a large presence in weightlifting for about 30 years now. China only sends athletes they know can get Gold. The same Chinese weightlifters that won Gold in Tokyo won Gold in either London or Rio too. They're just better than others
@GilBatesLovesyou3 жыл бұрын
I would say Chinese success this Olympics is partially due to that they had a heads up on the epidemic and a lot of athletes had severely disrupted training this cycle, whereas Chinese athletes had the least disruption to their normal training.
@GilBatesLovesyou3 жыл бұрын
@@henri.r94 It's never been this drastic in the past. Rio and London had more weight classes and China got only 5 gold medals there, and 7 total, vs 8 medals and 7 golds this Olympics with one weight class gone.
@g13n43 жыл бұрын
I know for a fact that Russian Olympic Weightlifting team stops doping a few weeks before every major event and they had to pass internal drug tests first to compete. There is also a rumor that Klokov failed internal drug test and had to withdraw because of it. Also there are top athletes who used to get calls from the federation on the days when they were going to be "randomly" tested
@Alexandre1990zhao3 жыл бұрын
Klokov keep hang snatching 200kg years after his retirement. Not sure any "clean" athletes from Western countries can do this. Doping is always a perfect excuse of mentally weak guys. Oh. Forgot to tell you that swming team of USA has many asthma swimmers, they are not doping, they use drugs legally. 😂
@Sleet8703 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I didn't realize you guys only have 14k subs!? This channel comes off much higher quality than 14k subs! Keep up the good work guys!!
@MellonVegan3 жыл бұрын
Kinda makes me glad I'm competing in strongman, even though I'm a natty manlet. At least we can talk openly about it all. Whether I lose by a meter to someone who is doping or by a mile to someone who is allowed to take shit... I think I prefer the latter bc it's honest, at least. And they in turn offer you more respect for what you can do without drugs. Just mutual respect.
@roofuscunnilingus80493 жыл бұрын
@ C-Dun Fitness people under 6'4 don't exist?
@MellonVegan3 жыл бұрын
@C-Dun Fitness It's a joke. I've never cared about height. But people can make jokes. I even call us 80s strongmanlets. It's funny.
@nickcustodi5923 жыл бұрын
I am so appreciative of the openness in this video (and your channel at large). And furthermore, I appreciate that you don’t demonize those countries and athletes for *possibly* doping
@chester-tan3 жыл бұрын
What about China's dominance in sports like Badminton and Table Tennis? Would you also attribute it to their ability to keep their athletes on PEDs?
@tommyrq1802 жыл бұрын
Yes. You’re apparently unaware that PEDs are not just for strength enhancement but for almost every athletic attribute. At the highest levels everyone is a freak of nature but today’s PEDs give you a major relative advantage over the other genetic freaks. Even the horses are doped in those “Olympic” competitions. The challenge is to name a sport where it doesn’t pay. Darts? Nope-I know what they take. Same thing archers and shooters take. Etc. Etc. Etc.
@brenm38353 жыл бұрын
Chinese weightlifting is best weightlifting... Lu for gold
@coachcoopfitness3 жыл бұрын
Smh CJ and Lasha have never taken anything ever, and this comment is not for the algorithm
@captainmax79673 жыл бұрын
bruv i am so overwhelmed w nationalist rage about this suggestion and this comment is assuredly not jsut for the algorithm
@nathj83903 жыл бұрын
Not watched this video yet, but.... You're the predominant voice in my head. Commenting for the algorithm. Love the sh*t talk podcast. Thanks
@dadgumwler3 жыл бұрын
All these weightlifting channels on KZfaq competing for our attention and this Alex guy is just sitting back raking it in like the king on top that he is
@jwt-nu3ei3 жыл бұрын
Just remember: over the two Olympic cycles Russia were running a state sponsored doping programme, Team GB caught and then overtook them in the medals table.
@zes38133 жыл бұрын
wrg, pgskn idts, fku rubbisx losers
@kobeg99383 жыл бұрын
In Belgium we have crazy atheletes like Wout Van Aert (cycling) who won a mountainstage, time trail and the final sprint stage on the champs elysee all in the same Tour the France. After winning multiple classic races in the start of the year, after cutting open his entire right quadricep two years ago... Or someone like Nafi Thiam who came close to breaking the hepthatlon WR and also won gold in Rio. Everyone in Belgium just assumes they are clean, while if a Russian/Chinese or any other "dirty" country would put up such performances, it would be 100% doping.
@grobpote Жыл бұрын
Incredible video!!! I've waited for this sooo long! Yes, everybody dopes on the highest level and might I add: it's not just when you're a senior athlete in your 20's. To become a world champion you have to start early and maybe after 10 yrs of incredibly hard work and doping you develop to the level to have a chance to win a medal.
@jacobkickpush3 жыл бұрын
This is an entirely genuine comment, definitely not to help work the algo
@ericooliveira96933 жыл бұрын
Fitz was breathing way too loud here, honestly I couldn't hear a word of what Gurph said the whole video
@HEEHEEBOII3 жыл бұрын
Yeah good points made, however I find that title a bit misleading the whole video has only one small segment on China lol. But I agree with your points, is the similar points people make for baseball and any other professional sports. The important question is, could we, as viewers go back and see people lifting well below the records set and winning gold medals for a lot less weight? Obviously there are those lifters who are Gods amongst men but they area really rare.
@MH-le2fr3 жыл бұрын
I might be a little late to this, but this is a such an honest podcast. Good job!
@nathanielkang23973 жыл бұрын
What is Sika nation’s opinion on Toshiki? I know Japan is super strict culturally on PEDs. But I know people think his squat is suspicious enough to think he’s doping.
@GilBatesLovesyou3 жыл бұрын
@@scottessery100 I think Clarence was just being nice. He even joked "His clean and jerk is natty, but his squat isn't."
@GilBatesLovesyou3 жыл бұрын
Eh, surprisingly Japan as far as actual law does not outright ban steroids like USA. WADA sports still need to comply with any rules, but the shame isn't from taking steroids, it's from getting caught breaking a rule in the sport and the embarrassment that comes from that. Japan still has an internal antidoping agency and athletes do get popped internally within Japan. Toshiki I'm very conflicted on, as his strength and muscularity is more than his competitors taking more medals. But the fact he got so injured so much would in some ways point to not being enhanced, as using some HGH and peptides to heal that all quicker would be the logical thing to do. Hearing some of his interviews with him not even being able to really move his arm right, or the extreme shin splint pain, etc, maybe points to heavy painkiller use or just extreme pain tolerance, dunno.
@jkrolling48213 жыл бұрын
I like the editing, not distracting but looks pretty decent.
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks for the feedback
@AlTaJr615 күн бұрын
there was an article in Rolling Stone, I think, decades ago about the sport of weightlifting, track and field and the athletes were very Open that DOPING is Normal and everyone knows about it but there is a CODE OF SILENCE amongst the athletes the world over not to say anything until 1 gets caught.. I think this was after the Marion Jones Doping scandal.
@chiselednatty3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for just having this authentic discussion👍🏾
@wigpen3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, really enjoyed your approach to the subject. The tiering levels were interesting. It is a horrid realisation of mine that my favourite athletes are most likely doping. It won’t stop me watching them lift.
@ashearera3 жыл бұрын
I was literally just noticing the breathing when Eoin pointed it out haha. Excellent antler placement btw.
@tytanowykarol3 жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasurable viewing experience when there's two of you sitting together
@patiom693 жыл бұрын
It’s extremely telling when they get busted fer doping and their totals still consistently after they get back from the bans
@areyouusingthatsquatrack82563 жыл бұрын
Kinda like Lasha?
@inky46903 жыл бұрын
@@areyouusingthatsquatrack8256 lasha clean watchu mean
@Alexandre1990zhao3 жыл бұрын
Doping is perfect excuse for loose. Remind you that American swimmers often have asthma. They can use many drugs legally. 🤔 Interesting.
@oroborus20633 жыл бұрын
I am leaving a comment because its great for the algorithm.
@thomasright3 жыл бұрын
This is a lot to take in. I thought I was on great track for the 2024 games and now I'm hearing my competitors are taking drugs. Hope it gets fixed
@zennappi3 жыл бұрын
It wont, u should hop on gear to make it even playingfield mate
@HkFinn833 жыл бұрын
Make sure you know the system in your own country and are able to pass the tests that you will have take. Not sure what sport you’re in but the best people to learn from will be your peers.
@mitchellkalinowski38793 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Boady Santavy?
@DylanFulbright3 жыл бұрын
Drugs or no drugs, there is no steroid that makes athletes immune to mental pressure. One of the most interesting aspects of these sessions in Tokyo to me has been the bomb outs. So do you guys think Simone pissed hot?
@germanrud99043 жыл бұрын
She wasn't allowed to take her Adderall and use it there. Pretty obvious.
@GilBatesLovesyou3 жыл бұрын
@@germanrud9904 An irony is that might be true. Even if her TUE allowed her that medicine, Japan has a zero tolerance policy toward any personal importation of amphetamines, even with a US prescription, there's no way to bring them over legally for any reason.
@HomelessShoe29 күн бұрын
I have a lot of training experience. Over TREN years!
@getstrongby40383 жыл бұрын
Not ragging on Chinese weightlifting? Not feeling well today boys? 😆
@matthewmckee62893 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a lot more of a pleasurable viewing experience lads.
@paulmer873 жыл бұрын
I’m curious to hear what your guys opinion (and anyone else who cares to chime in) about Hidilyn Diaz re. doping. Her win came with numbers that I would consider elite or near elite. However I don’t know how much government or personal support would have been available to her for a comprehensive doping program. I’m not insinuating anything either way, but as one of the stories that really touched my heart in these Olympics thus far, I’m curious if anyone has any opinions regarding her historic win.
@GalaxyX_real3 жыл бұрын
I read an interesting article about how she was purposely losing in meets prior to the Olympics to fool the Chinese.
@GilBatesLovesyou3 жыл бұрын
I oddly think natty for her. She definitely looks very natty aesthetically and doesn't have a deep voice/etc. One thing to remember for her is she was 30 years old, which I think for natties 30-35 is about your peak. She also only managed to put 10kg on her total since 2015 in Houston. For the 30-35 year old thing, a lot of the 1950s-1970s lifters hit peak numbers in their early 30s, it was only Bulgaria with their pharmacology that made 18 year old wonderkids the norm in this sport. So as the sport gets more natty (maybe?) I think we'll start seeing more medalists in their 30s again just because strength gained naturally is a slow process over a lot of years and you can't really beat time in.
@jumpvelocity3953 Жыл бұрын
@@GilBatesLovesyou not all PEDs are androgynous or masculinizing, and a lot of PEDs used in sports are deployed in different manners or are completely different for different purposes as physique vs performance. It wouldn’t make sense to take a drug that just makes you big and bloated. A visual test is never useful for PED testing outside of bodybuilding.
@stevezuspann47112 жыл бұрын
How long does it take to clear their systems,. Are most custom made and hard to test for.
@Jo-oe3pi Жыл бұрын
Bring back the evil genius! Viva Chavez!
@ItsbrianW3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a lot more pleasurable viewing experience. Thanks Alex 👍🏻
@musashimiyamoto89983 жыл бұрын
It honestly amazes me how ignorant the public remain when it comes to doping in high level sports. Some people are just in denial that high level sports including the Olympics are full of people doping. I mean even the athletes who didn't place in the top 10 are most likely doping. Personally I don't think it takes away from their achievements but it is quite unfair that people from impoverished countries most likely have very limited access to doping...unless your Usain bolt lol
@HkFinn833 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? You can buy testosterone off the shelf in many third world countries
@musashimiyamoto89983 жыл бұрын
@@HkFinn83 I'm talking about designer drugs
@ItsZohn3 жыл бұрын
Part of me wishes doping was acceptable because I’d love to see the athletes put up absolutely insane weights and I also don’t view it as immoral (when it’s accepted in comp) because they have to still put the work in if not more to become elite. On the other hand if it was accepted it would unfortunately force some athletes hand that otherwise would absolutely not dope and they’d possibly have to bow out because they just wouldn’t be competitive. Tough call either way.
@carlosanguita9778 Жыл бұрын
Nobody at olynpic level does not use chemichals
@michaelrogowski623 жыл бұрын
wow, this is a lot more pleasurable viewing experience (:
@areyouusingthatsquatrack82563 жыл бұрын
Is it essentially the same for organizations like IPF?
@sentralorigin Жыл бұрын
people that get upset by this video are the same people that think WWE wrestling is real
@loopeydloop3 жыл бұрын
Honestly cool information to have Edit: the editing looks good!
@nickmunro86603 жыл бұрын
Woah, this is a lot more pleasurable viewing experience
@sebastianmunoz97173 жыл бұрын
I may or may not be on the Email list to notify me when the team China singlets come back in stock on Luxiojun barbell…..
@UgglemannenFTW3 жыл бұрын
Ofc they dope, but the thing is can you really compete vs china? They handpick children for sports at young age to get the most optimal person for the sport and in this case weightlifting. While western kids that get successfull usually have a parent or someone that is experienced in the sport to guide them. Just see thailand weightlifters, sure they dope but its thier work and they do it to sustain thier family. Completely different motivation. Good video btw
@8ballrocco7313 жыл бұрын
Great point
@kentelope37593 жыл бұрын
I’m sure this happens in the USA as well. Talent scouts are everywhere for lots of sports.
@UgglemannenFTW3 жыл бұрын
@@kentelope3759 it does but in China its state funded and alot bigger.
@PaulSteere3 жыл бұрын
They handpick tens if not hundreds of thousands of children, then it’s a competitive bloodbath at regional and national level and only the survivors of that make the international team. Hence drugs or no drugs you have the absolute elite of the elite. Compare that to UK where the 4 women we sent have zero competition because they’re pretty much the only 4 women who are half decent in the country, who get 0 funding and in Zoe Smiths case had to train in her garage alone for a year, and didn’t take up the sport till much later comparatively. Not hating on Our women etc because they’re still damn strong and love the sport, it’s just the talent pool for us like many countries is tiny. China loves the prestige of hoovering up medals and has the money to invest in maximising their chances of winning them in the disciplines they believe they have the best chance of doing so in.
@kentelope37593 жыл бұрын
@@UgglemannenFTW isn’t funding bigger for US? Explains our dominance in college sports. Maybe not the case for weightlifting. But I always thought the major sports culture for US was the reason why the dominance in sports, especially those popular in collegr
@astewart67933 жыл бұрын
After the first week of the games, do you think there is any sports standing out already as suspect? Rowing, Judo, Cycling?
@tallettm3 жыл бұрын
This is a pleasurable viewing experience
@5minwatchreviews3 жыл бұрын
Being double jabbed means something totally different in the Grand Republic of Sikastan
@alexanderohgren14033 жыл бұрын
This video seems like all other videos "a very pleasurable experience" as always
@pigletofgreed77472 жыл бұрын
When the USA sweeps a category, no one dare question possible doping.😂
@joshuawhittick44963 жыл бұрын
what proportion of sports/athletes at this years olympics would you predict to be clean/enhanced?
@kimborampage3 жыл бұрын
What tier would TUEs be in? I have a feeling a lot of the more western athletes go this route.
@Stianihad3 жыл бұрын
See Fitz struggling not to acknowledge Gurph say “to milk” right after he mentions Thomas Ajans nipples…
@tgrw4811 Жыл бұрын
The lu project as is happening before our eyes.. the theory coming to fruition
@SaiyanDNA3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. I also enjoyed the accents. Would like to know who are tier 1 athletes to give me an idea of realistic numbers to chase in Oly lifting for my weight.
@Scott-zh5ip3 жыл бұрын
I like before I even watch these days
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
Every bit helps!
@alfonsorodriguez64372 жыл бұрын
Like they say: better life thru chemistry. The steroid situation is a matter of who uses the more undetectable type, that is, until a better test is developed. It is a matter of who has access to the best chemists.
@FavourJaiyeola3 жыл бұрын
You guys are absolute psychics! I searched on KZfaq a couple days ago "Why are Chinese weightlifters so strong" and couldn't find a single video on the subject and then you guys made this video lol. Recently found and subscribed to this channel, love your content, just two down to earth guys talking about the sport they love! :)
@grkstud973 жыл бұрын
You mentioned some info on the connection between Kazakhstan and Aján. Any thoughts on how China gets their political clout?
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
Who knows... Nukes I guess.
@dr-junk3 жыл бұрын
@@sikastrength the US got NUKES, but its atheletes still got busted for doping
@GilBatesLovesyou3 жыл бұрын
@@sikastrength China holds more cards than America does, in that China produces a significant portion of the worlds goods. The US military admitted their supply chain would collapse without Chinese goods. Obviously the current world situation with the virus shows how much power China has.
@melmakesstuff3 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciated both the discussion and the sneaky 🌲
@michael.penrod3 жыл бұрын
This was a much more pleasurable viewing experience 👍
@pjcho91803 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear you guys talk about Laurence Vincent Lapointe, a Canadian sprint canoeist who got popped, won an appeal be probably because she's multiple times world champion, then failed to earn an Olympic quota, but got given one by canoe kayak Canada because she's their star athlete at the expense of another paddler
@FearWarboar41353 жыл бұрын
Wow this was a lot more pleasurable viewer experience
@alextheguy18583 жыл бұрын
What tier is Zack?
@sikastrength3 жыл бұрын
1 through 3
@JO-jn1wy3 жыл бұрын
What is weightlifting? I got redirected here from the Sikastan nationality test.
@GenXPower3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, they should just do away with WADA. I think it should be legal and it should be up to the athletes. I also understand that there are a ton of issues with that as well, but it isn't like the current system works all that well.
@mosulemanji3 жыл бұрын
They're not doping it's just chicken and broccoli
@DehaKarahan3 жыл бұрын
Great insights, thanks!
@thebeyonder41133 жыл бұрын
Well actually Russia does have a lot of influence over WADA, IWF, IOC, ROC etc, often the officials were Russian themselves as revealed by that whistleblower. I think the only reason they got busted was due to the West's geopolitical interests. China on the other hand has managed to avoid this due to a multitude of variables.
@Alexandre1990zhao3 жыл бұрын
Western Countries = Clean? Show me any "clean" western athlete keep performing high level lifts? Man, you should know if you don't have system to select, train and support athletes, you will not win. Not because you are "democracy" country you get gold. Gold is won by work, not by bullshit.
@thebeyonder41133 жыл бұрын
@@Alexandre1990zhao what kind of bullshit strawmaning is that ? I never said any of that, West is far from clean, anti-doping was literally a political tool against the Eastern bloc
@Alexandre1990zhao3 жыл бұрын
@@thebeyonder4113 So we need to be sceptic when we read news about Russia doping issues. We need to know, the biggest drug companies are actually controlling anti-doping system. 😂
@thebeyonder41133 жыл бұрын
@@Alexandre1990zhao again man what's with your pandering, everybody is corrupt, Russians are just more nonchalant about it and being an enemy of the west they got exposed which I literally mention in my main comment you moron. There is no competitive sport without PEDs.
@GilBatesLovesyou3 жыл бұрын
I thought about this, too. All the Russian doping pandemonium came after Russian military operations in Syria and Ukraine, and are indirect punishment for it.
@rubiakfr3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell Why Rússia could compete on the olympics under a differebt name but Romania couldn't?
@Sealed_Chamber3 жыл бұрын
This is what the people want to hear.
@shunli88283 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the quality content. I would like to mention Zhan xugang, he’s two time Olympic champions back in 1996 and 2000. When he completed at 77kg in Sydney, he squat&jerked 207.5kg which lu hasn’t achieved at 81kg. Surprisingly comparing to lu, that dude has the same height but look much less jacked. If there is anyone clean in China team I would consider he is one of them. Tbf with years of weightlifting training plus doping, it would be a miracle to have a dad bod especially at lower weight class
@bobbob49193 жыл бұрын
Thank you for highlighting this, I am always so impressed with the training, discipline, technique and consistency with the Chinese team. But there's a giant elephant in the room and it needs to be discussed.
@benbishop75123 жыл бұрын
There is no elephant.
@bobbob49193 жыл бұрын
@@benbishop7512 Well I think there is. Xx
@bronzesledgehammer3 жыл бұрын
Your video is quite informative. I think you don't have to make that "Fanboy alert" in the begaining and the end though. Just speak out of your mind. I do believe almost everyone at olypmpic podium level is on something. And only the poor ones without a sophisticated lab/meds support will get caught. Or maybe they just being too aggressive on the doses and willing to take the risk. I'm a Chinese and a Weightlifting funboy. I can tell you this sport is not that popular here. Gyms and clubs got plates but no place for the grunting weightlifters. There are few crossfit clubs but without proffesional weightlifting trainers. Means there are basically no support or development program descending from professional level. All the weightlifters appears on the olympic stage were hand picked at a young age. They are those genectically 0.x %. And they are willing to bear the pain through out so many years of camp training. It's a pyramid scheme. I once complained to a traning buddy, even a retired fundations bric level weightlifter of this pyramid could be a good trainer in any club, yet we have met none of them. However with all that said, it doesn't stop mine appreciation of those weightlifters. Their mentality is absolutly insperational regardless their nationalities. I clap for Pizzolato Antonino when he challenge 210 in C&J in 81kg. I love the mentality of that If no records or gold then nothing different silver and bronze.
@ysong003 жыл бұрын
Yea I don’t get the constant calling out of “China fanboys” either… like isn’t the point of channels like this to promote more fans of the sport? Meanwhile it seems they are constantly putting down anyone who is a big fan of team China, or at least passive aggressively does so. Anyways I keep watching because I’m a fan of the sport as well as a fanboy of team china.