Simon Jordan explains why switching countries SHOULDN'T be allowed!

Simon Jordan explains why switching countries SHOULDN'T be allowed! | talkSPORT

Рет қаралды 124,490

9 ай бұрын

Enjoyed this KZfaq video? 😍
Subscribe here: / talksport
Check out some of talkSPORT's MOST POPULAR content 🔥
⚽ HEATED DEBATE! Simon Jordan & Graeme Souness CLASH over Erik ten Hag's treatment of Man United player Cristiano Ronaldo
• JORDAN vs SOUNESS 🤬 | ...
⚽ Simon Jordan has his say on Gary Neville working for Qatar-based BeIN Sports during the 2022 World Cup
• 🥴 Simon Jordan has his...
⚽ Ben Foster says Edwin Van Der Sar would do minimal training and still be ready to play for Manchester United
• Ben Foster says Edwin ...
⚽ Simon Jordan GOES IN on Gary Neville for his Man Utd vs Liverpool commentary
• Simon Jordan RAGES Ove...
⚽ Rudiger intermediary Saif Rubie makes bombshell Chelsea claims and clashes with Simon Jordan
• 😱🔥 Rudiger intermediar...
⚽ Academy Award Winner Gary Oldman is baffled by Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney's purchase of Wrexham
• Academy Award Winner G...
⚽ INCREDIBLE CLASH! Ray Parlour and Robbie Lyle get HEATED over claims AFTV want Arsenal to LOSE!
• INCREDIBLE CLASH! Ray ...
⚽ Ben Foster tells talkSPORT that the Premier League would have 'sued' him if he recorded the games he played for Watford
• Ben Foster reveals Pre...
⚽ Simon Jordan and Graeme Souness CLASH over Daniel Levy's role at Tottenham
• Simon Jordan and Graem...
⚽ Simon Jordan GOES IN on Jurgen Klopp for calling out Gabby Agbonlahor
• Simon Jordan GOES IN o...
⚽ Simon Jordan argues that Manchester City do spend FAR MORE than Liverpool and other Premier League clubs
• Simon Jordan argues th...
⚽ Simon Jordan reacts to Chelsea owner Todd Boehly's suggestion of a North vs South Premier League All-Star game
• Simon Jordan reacts to...
⚽ Is Manchester City's Erling Haaland better than Tottenham's Harry Kane? talkSPORT's Graeme Souness thinks he could be!
• Is Man City's Erling H...
⚽ Simon Jordan doesn't think Steven Gerrard has the ability to be a manager in the Premier League
• Simon Jordan doesn't t...
🖥️ talkSPORT's Website: /talksport.com/
📲 talkSPORT's Twitter: / talksport
📷 talkSPORT's Instagram: talksport?...
👤 talkSPORT's Facebook: / talksport
📱 talkSPORT's Tik Tok: / talksport
🔴 Download the talkSPORT app HERE! - talksport.com/apps/
🔎 Want to see if you feature on our KZfaq channel? Check out our Best talkSPORT callers playlist: • The BEST talkSPORT Cal...
#talkSPORT
#PremierLeague

Пікірлер: 605

@Juicys78 9 ай бұрын

Love O Neill as a pundit, the epitome of been there done it, Euro Cups tick, League title tick, Managed clubs to trophies tick, managed internationally tick....really makes the majority of talk sport (excluding Jordan, White, McCoist) pale in comparison.

@kendo5862 9 ай бұрын

👏…Managed clubs at all levels .. and has a good bit of banter!

@liamconverse8950 9 ай бұрын

They said he played for Ireland but it was actually Northern Ireland seems like that's an important difference

@chrismufc23 8 ай бұрын

@@liamconverse8950 he’s a catholic from Derry I’m sure he sees himself as Irish.

@dod6031 8 ай бұрын

@@chrismufc23Probably would’ve played for the Republic like James McLean, Shane Duffy & Darron Gibson did had it not meant he’d be receiving death threats from loyalist paramilitary groups at the time.

@GoldenbanjoDJ 9 ай бұрын

We saw something similar this in Rugby Union. Big rugby countries used to just cap the talent from, say, Fiji/Samoa/Tonga and then never play them again. This restricted these smaller nations from producing a really good Team of their own. Now they've changed the laws to allow players who haven't been capped for a certain number of years to play for their original countries and a number of players have taken advantage of that, leading to much more competitive smaller nations. It's only good for the sport. It prevents the big attractive powerhouse nations nicking everyone and making them illegible to play for other nations. Think you have to govern it with some really good strong rules and regulations to prevent players just switching around all the time. Maybe 1 switch per individual.

@entmeister-general415 9 ай бұрын

A lot of the pacific islanders are supporting large families back home you can't blame them for seeking the financial security that comes with playing for the ABs or Wallabies.

@GoldenbanjoDJ 9 ай бұрын

@@entmeister-general415 I'm not blaming them at all - I don't know what in my comment gave off that impression. I am placing blame on a system that says a big rugby nation can cap a talent from another nation, never cap them again (I'm not really suggesting they're doing that with malicious intent though) and ultimately destroy their chances of playing international rugby ever again.

@philthornton1382 9 ай бұрын

@@GoldenbanjoDJsurely the fairest way is nation of birth only

@brianandrea3249 9 ай бұрын

@@philthornton1382 or citizenship. Dual passport holders play for the country in which they reside.

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

It's not good for anything. If these players chose to play for one country then they should be committed to that country forever, regardless of whether they're playing for them or not. And football bears no comparison to rugby union. Rugby union has about 5 countries which play the sport. The whole world plays football. Big footballing nations don't generally give caps to plays just to ensnare them into their fold, it's smaller nations who do that more.

@paulmcmanus8327 9 ай бұрын

Declan Rice played for Ireland all through the youth ranks and made three senior appearances in friendlies for Ireland before he switched allegiance to the country of his birth England.

@gazurtoids1 9 ай бұрын

It's slightly different with English born of Irish blood ...dual nationality, someone Irish born Evan Ferguson for example never considers a switch to England it just doesn't happen in the way the English are prone to switch ......the English are a much more mixed (nearly said mixed up) nation

@stevea9207 9 ай бұрын

English bias crap mate

@jait2024 9 ай бұрын

Cmon. England are the worst for it

@captainohcaptain9588 9 ай бұрын

@@jait2024no they're not Scotland is the worse for taking players born from other countries

@francolive5718 9 ай бұрын

Jack Charlton’s Ireland were the originals for doing this.

@civildiscourse7626 9 ай бұрын

I think it’s a good thing, otherwise big nations can just give players meaningless caps to stop them playing for someone else even though they may not really see them as a long term selection certainty

@tevildo45 9 ай бұрын

Sterling born in Jamaica, John barnes born in jamica, Owen Hargreaves’s born in Canada. Every country does it

@johnjames4681 9 ай бұрын

Hargreaves played u18 for Wales.

@johnnybravo9096 9 ай бұрын

Still dont make it right

@stevo7163 9 ай бұрын

Zidane isn’t even French

@tevildo45 9 ай бұрын

Apparently being born and raised in France doesn’t make you French

@Insertnamehere287 9 ай бұрын

@@tevildo45lol the likes of zidane, Benzema, all the other black players would never play for France if it wasn’t financially beneficial to them, they don’t see themselves as French and I can’t blame them tbh. I think Benzema has actually said this out loud.

@MALEXI10 9 ай бұрын

Even as a Northern Ireland fan, I have to admit that we need to focus on developing our own when possible as opposed to taking rejects from GB. It defeats the purpose and takes away the pride that you should feel when representing the country you were born and grew up in.

@TheGiantKillers 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately for Northern Ireland they're in that crazy and unique situation where FIFA rule that despite an Irish passport covering two jurisdictions, having the passport means you can play for whichever of the two you want, so Northern Ireland lose all the talented players from a Nationalist background after nurturing them through their development programme and investing in them as kids. And yet, at the same time FIFA have not applied the same freedom regarding British passports, where you have to prove birth, residence, or ancestry for whichever of the four nations you're playing for. If the same rules were applied to British passports as Irish, Northern Ireland could technically pick any British passport holding player willing to play for them, even if they had no Northern Irish ancestry whatsoever.

@brownsey1 8 ай бұрын

@@TheGiantKillersHang on, excuse my potential misunderstanding of your point, but are you saying that if the rules were changed, players from N. Ireland couldn't choose to play for the Republic?

@ThisIsMyRodrick 8 ай бұрын

issue, you have England trying to snatch up Ferguson even after he made it clear, he wants to play for Ireland. This is called the Rice Effect and they let the man live and do what he wants.

@matthewmcnerlin231 8 ай бұрын

@@TheGiantKillersthe north loses those players due to the nature of most NI fans - even though they are now in a minority.

@matthewmcnerlin231 8 ай бұрын

@@brownsey1wouldn’t be allowed to happen. Born in the north your Irish (or if you are in the now minority- you can choose to be British). FIFA couldn’t step in and say na

@bojam_83 9 ай бұрын

He’s only doing it because Scotland are starting to arrive at tournaments!

@AlienProbe73 9 ай бұрын

agreed but we'll have him!

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

And that's only because tournaments have expanded lol.

@philwill0123 9 ай бұрын

Problem is international FAs scouting kids young. Kids get more kudos being a schoolboy international affiliate and clubs get better reps with kids being internationals. The problem is making kids choose at 14/15 what country they eant to represent.

@michaelairley2015 9 ай бұрын

Che Adams was asked how he felt to represent Scotland. He answered with, it was a great opportunity to play in the Euros.

@anubis8918 9 ай бұрын

In 2023 that's what most players care about

@grantkerr8298 9 ай бұрын

Che Adams helped Scotland qualify for the Euros, though. Hutchinson, Goram, McCall, McTominay, etc... Loads of English boys are Scottish legends. Harvey Barnes, or anyone signing up on the eve of a tournament, is just a grifter. At least Che Adams speculated and put in the hours.

@michaelairley2015 9 ай бұрын

@@grantkerr8298 That's my point. He never came out and said he all of a sudden felt Scottish. He was honest and said he wanted to play in the Euros.

@francolive5718 9 ай бұрын

Because Scotland are nailed on to qualify and possibly will have a good crack at getting to 2026 World Cup I can see players coming out of the woodwork.

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

Didn't Messi do the same? lol. Retire for the qualifiers and come back for the tournament.@@grantkerr8298

@francolive5718 9 ай бұрын

Arteta nearly played for England and never won a cap at senior level but it’s hardly surprising given what he was up against. Countries with deeper pools of talent have more competition and that’s the way it goes.

@Astrophobia88 9 ай бұрын

Bloody hell aye, i vaguely remember talk that he was going to play for England now you have mentioned it.

@hughiemg2 9 ай бұрын

Can Ireland have Jack Grealish back in that case please??

@whoknew2273 9 ай бұрын

Yes he packed bags already 😁

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

But they can keep Maguire. 😅

@oxy8175 9 ай бұрын

Decision on country to play should be with the players. Many have parents of different countries and thus influence their upbringing. Someone like Declan Rice was born in uk but has irish roots. Thus he's prob happy to play in either team but does have preference for england because thats where he was raised. If Barnes couldnt get into england team but rejects scotland anyway, pundits will say he is disrespecting his family/roots.

@nosoul4233 9 ай бұрын

I see you’ve turned the comments off when it comes to the Spanish bloke resigning over that kiss …. You don’t want to see the people stick up for him then ?

@lt7895 9 ай бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. They are A holes for doing that.

@AJ-xv7oh 9 ай бұрын

@lv__426 It's got absolutely nothing to do with legal proceedings. Absolute nonsense. It's because they don't want a dumpster fire of a comment section and risk a warning off KZfaq. Legal proceedings 🤦🏼‍♂️ stop thinking you're smart.

@ian_r125 9 ай бұрын

i dont think its really up to talksport on what they can do or not do. they have certain obligations to other 3rd parties

@lt7895 9 ай бұрын

@lv__426 imagine thinking people care what you say.

@AJ-xv7oh 9 ай бұрын

@lv__426 There hasn't been a single video about the kiss on TalkSport until today. They block the comments on every 'controversial' topic for the reason I mentioned. If you want another example; Mason Greenwoods case is finished and the comments are still blocked on all videos mentioning him. It has absolutely nothing, NOTHING, to do with legal proceedings.

@ajc1482 9 ай бұрын

I really dont see the problem, if hes good enough and Scotland want to give him a chance then theres no harm. He'll have to work to get into the squad which is hiw it should be but I think he'll be a big asset.

@TheBonesReaperShow 9 ай бұрын

Your first senior friendly should declare your permanent nationality.

@philthornton1382 9 ай бұрын

Your country of birth should

@TheBonesReaperShow 9 ай бұрын

@@philthornton1382 I hear you, but sometimes it’s not reflective of the player. Terry Butcher was born in Singapore, Haaland was born in Leeds (don’t get me wrong I’d love it if he played for England).

@tonesweir 9 ай бұрын

Would have been good question to ask martin if he would opt for the ROI over NI if given the choice as he would be egliable for both.

@conorsmith8551 9 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly when Simon asked that. Something really makes me think Martin still would have chose NI just to irk people

@-The-Darkside 9 ай бұрын

I'm still not over Giggs choosing Wales after playing for England kids

@garyd6558 9 ай бұрын

giggs played for england schools because he went to school in England not because he was english

@johnjames4681 9 ай бұрын

Giggs was born in Wales to Welsh parents but schooled in England. I am not sure he was ever eligible for England. Martin played for Northern Ireland not the Republic. "Are you a proud irishman" is a running issue for Ulstermen as they are British citizens. Irish but British. Simon should know this. No doubt Martin was eligible for RoI but chose the NI side. It is simpler with the rugby.

@brenorodrigues9754 9 ай бұрын

Saka is a english boy.

@1Jameskelly 9 ай бұрын

At least the women were safe in England

@docholiday-lm4vf 9 ай бұрын

@john martin is a cathloic from the irish side of northern ireland. He would absolutely consider himself irish and not British

@Dabmonger 9 ай бұрын

Scott McTominay is English and happily plays for Scotland. He's happy, the Scotland supporters are happy. Where's the issue in all this?

@UncleRuckus_96 9 ай бұрын

Because Simon is a cringe brexit proud Englishman 🤣

@Dabmonger 9 ай бұрын

@@UncleRuckus_96 Not sure whether he supports Brexit or not, but no doubt he likes the idea of Brexit in the sense of English nationalism!

@francolive5718 9 ай бұрын

Because he is the Lancaster bomber Scott McTominay who runs a 15 minute 5k!

@Dabmonger 9 ай бұрын

@@francolive5718 He's a great athlete who can't get in the Man U midfield even as a sub!

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

You think he's English with a name like McTominay?

@darrenkilbane2613 9 ай бұрын

Totally true well said Simon

@mcnetchaiev 9 ай бұрын

In terms of Scotland and England, the whole thing's weird anyway because, outside of football and rugby, it's the same country. In general, the world is now so globalized that people have all sorts of origins and I don't see why you couldn't have a choice between different countries in accordance with FIFA rules.

@teamblitz1990 9 ай бұрын

I was born in England to Irish parents my one desire was to play for Ireland definitely not england

@callithowiseeit5806 9 ай бұрын

As it should be, your heritage should depict this, I'm tired of guys that wear an England shirt but spend their lives eating jerk chicken and driving round with jamaican flags hanging from their rearview mirrors, their heart isn't here so why bother playing for us

@ludogatari9558 9 ай бұрын

I can relate, born in England to Turkish parents. Even if it meant missing every tournament, I would have picked Turkey.

@kyzy2235 9 ай бұрын

@ludogatari9558 wooow there are countless turksih players who don't choose turkey but foriegn countries

@francolive5718 9 ай бұрын

Is your name Kevin Kilbane?

@CJ4YRD 9 ай бұрын

It's not.. Once you played a competitive match..

@DH-hl5tc 9 ай бұрын

Loyalty means nothing in this day and age.

@ymohamed928 9 ай бұрын

It's wrong big nations to use players and stop small countries having top players playing for them.

@jotaonthewing6788 9 ай бұрын

Fine with Rice and Grealish doing it but as soon as it’s the other way about it’s a problem 😂😂😂.

@2ru2pacFan 9 ай бұрын

Exactly 😂 just like everything they cry about it when it happens to them but it's ok when England does it lol 😂

@jotaonthewing6788 9 ай бұрын

@@2ru2pacFan Class name lad. 2Pac’s the goat 🐐

@Achilles66666 9 ай бұрын

The problem with this lame argument is that both grealish and rice were born in England and although there father's may have Irish names both there mother's were English and they never represented Ireland in a competitive match just youth level 😏

@2ru2pacFan 9 ай бұрын

@@jotaonthewing6788 thanks bro ♥

@2ru2pacFan 9 ай бұрын

@@Achilles66666 then why did England cry about it when Giggs played for England at youth level but played for Wales, they did the same too when Bale did it.

@jonlivesinasia 9 ай бұрын

My son has a Welsh dad, a Taiwanese mum, and has grown up in Singapore. It's perfectly possible to have affections for more than one country. I have no issues with people swapping countries, as long as they care about the country and give their all.

@richardgardner7457 8 ай бұрын

I’m so sorry for your son

@jonlivesinasia 8 ай бұрын

@@richardgardner7457 WTF are you talking about?

@richardgardner7457 8 ай бұрын

@@jonlivesinasia Welsh dad, poor lad wouldn’t wish it on anyone 😂

@jonlivesinasia 8 ай бұрын

@@richardgardner7457 Why?

@richardgardner7457 8 ай бұрын

@@jonlivesinasia duck me 🤦‍♂️ it’s a joke

@hywelmurray 9 ай бұрын

Half the French National team opted for France for financial reasons , John Barnes recently told Simon he played his whole England career without feeling English. It’s shameful behaviour.

@bigbinji6145 9 ай бұрын

I imagine that would be the same for Rashford , Mings , Sancho etc ........they don't sing the national anthem so it's purely financial transaction for them. Wonder how they feel when Jordan Pickford is belting out GSTQ with considerable gusto

@miamitten1123 9 ай бұрын

Financial reasons? The players give the money to charity. As for John Barnes, I think it would be the RACISM that made him not feel included. Not a genuine hatred for England.

@miamitten1123 9 ай бұрын

@@bigbinji6145 English players give the money to chosen charities. So where's the financial rewards? Funny how you mention non-WHITE players, but Frank Lampard publicly said he never sang the national anthem either.

@bigbinji6145 9 ай бұрын

@@miamitten1123 oh here we go again , the old gramaphone record stuck again, only black people do not discriminate. Which of course , is pure tosh. Johnny Barnes did not feel English because he was not born in the country. He was adored on Merseyside .

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

Playing for a big national team raises their profile, which makes them more money. Racism is as English as Eccles cakes. BLDM. @@miamitten1123 ✊

@lfcspectre4335 9 ай бұрын

Doing a Declan Rice & Jack Grealish

@MasterofSpiders 9 ай бұрын

Why didn't put a competitive cap on Rice, Martin? You could have.

@thelinedrive 9 ай бұрын

If national teams want to screw around with players in their pool, especially those like England and US, they absolutely should be allowed to change nationality if eligible. Would be the only way many countries’ FA’s would be held to account for nepotism, favoritism and complacency.

@Tam1290 9 ай бұрын

Scotland have had a number of players not represent us after going to Ireland . Scotland now using the same rule to benefit us. I’m all for it. No one loses out of it. End of the day it’s players who England don’t want.

@michaelairley2015 9 ай бұрын

It's not about not wanting them. It's about who is ahead of them.

@Tam1290 9 ай бұрын

@@michaelairley2015 fair point Michael.

@TribalScan. 9 ай бұрын

@michaelairley2015 it is about wanting them or else they won't get picked!

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

End of the day at the end of the day

@sasanachmor 9 ай бұрын

People can change nationality in real life, why not football? If you've lived in the UK for 5 years and passed a test, you're a British citizen. International football should have as fluid a concept of nationality as states do. A player should be allowed to play for as many different nations as they have passports, but obviously only 1 nation a tournament.

@matthewm3869 9 ай бұрын

And here I am listening to Newcastle fans all summer saying how amazing of a signing Barnes is and he can't even get into the England squad. I'm sure he's the type of player who's going to help them win the Champions League then too, great signing.

@Ll-ij2jh 9 ай бұрын

Well England select Maguire and Phillips so it’s not that he can’t get in there it’s the fact that Southgate is incapable of change

@jamesfretwell1511 9 ай бұрын

That's a simplistic way of looking at it, especially since hes already played for the England team so his qualities obviously got noticed at one point by the England manager, and England are quite well stocked in the position Harvey Barnes plays in, and they are top quality players as well, so it's not like they are going to be dropped by southgate in a hurry.

@Charlieb82 9 ай бұрын

Maguire, Phillips and Henderson must be the pinnacle of their positions too then - no-one greater for England....

@joeythelipz 9 ай бұрын

Gotta love Martin O Neill

@civildiscourse7626 9 ай бұрын

You can have multiple allegiances/affinities for different countries.

@purehyperbole5727 9 ай бұрын

Proper Partridge laugh by White over O'Neil's final game.

@Hotshotuk85 9 ай бұрын

Agree with Simon tbh.....they should pick before they play for any country and be set in stone when they choose....

@damianclark550 9 ай бұрын

No wonder if Southgate picks bench players

@roamey 9 ай бұрын

Martin could have capped grealish and rice in competitive games at the euros but didn’t trust them…now they play for England regularly. Imagine Ireland with grealish rice and Ferguson, we’d be way better than the dross we watch currently. Now I don’t blame the players because Ireland and England have a unique relationship, love and hate.

@Louisdegalfilla7 8 ай бұрын

There is a history of big national teams using players once or twice then never use them again. It gives some player a chance actually have an internal career its such bad sportsmanship by the countries who do this knowing they never really intended use them more than once or twice in friendly games.

@wtfamiactuallyright1823 9 ай бұрын

Seriously... Can't even joke about shooting someone?

@antmax696 9 ай бұрын

2:17, top broadcasting from Jimbo.

@bigpoppaHH69 9 ай бұрын

Lol Simon riding Martin in this one 😂😂😂

@tomgallagher7870 9 ай бұрын

The thing that suprised me was martin not saying 100% i would have played for ireland if couldnt get in the team.

@GeotheScot 9 ай бұрын

As a Scotsman I 100% agree with Simon, I'd change the grandparents rule immediately, I want a Scotsman or minimum Scots parent to be eligible to play international fitbaw

@bigbinji6145 9 ай бұрын

yes , it has to be a parent as a minimum

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

What if someone is born in England but moves to Scotland at age 3? Hard and fast rules tend to not work.

@barrybutter6906 9 ай бұрын

Barnes should do it as he will likely never play for England but it is a bit tad opportunistic at this time knowing Scotland will likely qualify.. wonder if he could be arsed otherwise …

@ian-flanagan 9 ай бұрын

Childhood is for learning, hopefully not for life-long decisions. It’s fine to change your mind when you become an adult

@spamme9021 9 ай бұрын

If Rice would have remained Irish then it would have saved Arsenal about £60m as he would have cost his actual worth as opposed to the English tax Arsenal ended up paying😂

@Futcant 9 ай бұрын

He's good enough for England and should be in the team back up to grelish

@Slice998 9 ай бұрын

As long as the player hasn’t represented the country in a competitive game then I think it’s fair game to switch if it means having a more fruitful international career.

@johnnybravo9096 9 ай бұрын

It's not club football, literally only people born in the country should play. Its really as simple as that.

@tsrgoinc 9 ай бұрын

Yep, the dream is to represent your country, not any country who will have you!

@Holmeview 9 ай бұрын

@@johnnybravo9096so if you was born in America but moved to England when you was a baby and live here all your life you have to play for America?

@Slice998 9 ай бұрын

@@johnnybravo9096 By that same token I would also suggest that should apply to coaches too then.

@Slice998 9 ай бұрын

@@tsrgoinc right but if there’s no pathway into the squad for the country you wish to play for, I don’t believe you should then forgo your right to play international football.

@Paul-yo4mr 9 ай бұрын

Anderson will be another barkley a few caps then nowhere but cant see scotland bothering after what he said Barnes wont get in ahead of foden grealish saka rashford sterling so its up to them.

@garymacdonald7165 9 ай бұрын

England were jammy that Terry Butcher didnt opt for Malaysia!

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

And Freddy Mercury for Zanzibar.

@robbysfootyfocus 9 ай бұрын

100% agree. Look at the Northern Ireland squad, 7 players in their latest starting 11 were not born in Northern Ireland, its a disgrace.

@RichardBarnes-mx3dk 9 ай бұрын

Just on the subject of Northern Ireland as well mate: we’ve been impacted more than most with players opting to play for the Republic of Ireland having come through the IFA setup at various age groups due to a FIFA ruling. If those players want to play for the Republic then as much as I dislike the rule I’ll wish them good luck but I feel more needs to be done to protect the national association of the countries who gave these players an opportunity to develop as players through a pathway of a country they have no affiliation to and have no intention of representing at full international level

@garrahyc 9 ай бұрын

@@RichardBarnes-mx3dkPlayers like Duffy and McClean grew up watching the sectarian abuse Lennon got from NI fans while playing for you, hardly surprising they decided to jump ship

@owlkasai541 9 ай бұрын

Funny how nobody ever complains when Irish talents pledge allegiance to England. But as soon as a talented, frankly overlooked English player wants to pledge allegiance to Scotland, we’re having a conversation about it being wrong. Simon Dewberry has got this one all wrong.

@andresamuel9312 9 ай бұрын

This is exactly why it is an issue. Once it doesn't favor Simon's elitist English narrative, he has a problem. He says the same thing regarding the Saudi League. Millions on transfers and high salaries can only be spent once its done by the English, lol

@paulduncan789 9 ай бұрын

Which Irish talents do you refer to? I assume Grealish, Rice and Maguire? I don't think they are comparable with the situation you describe. Those three are, as far as I am aware, born and raised in England with Irish ancestry. I am not aware of any players born and raised in Ireland who chose to play for England. If Evan Ferguson chose England (he won't) then that would be more in line with what you seem to be suggesting.

@owlkasai541 9 ай бұрын

@@paulduncan789 they all were representing Ireland, and then pledged allegiance to England. EDIT: Rice and Grealish definitely were, not sure about Maguire

@jamesduffy7549 9 ай бұрын

@@owlkasai541they're both English as anything, you just tried and failed to steal them. Get over it. Maguire has never pulled on an Ireland shirt

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? There's been constant talk about Rice being a sellout. And Ireland have been taking English players in a big way for decades. They even had an English manager who took them to a WC.

@georgedolman444 9 ай бұрын

England should call up frimpong at rwb

@Ad-wu8te 9 ай бұрын

Would have meant no Rice or Grealish for England. Also why should a player be denied the opportunity to play internationally if he won’t be used. With Southgate clearly having favourites and not even picking players on form, what chance has Barnes got

@jamesduffy7549 9 ай бұрын

If these rules were in place, they'd never have played for Ireland

@cockoffgewgle4993 9 ай бұрын

As a proud Englishman born in 2023 I dream of growing up and playing for England women's team.

@lfcspectre4335 9 ай бұрын

Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

@thomasoflaherty3520 9 ай бұрын

Real Madrid eh?. Facts.

@joshabbott7237 9 ай бұрын

It’s a real difficult question to answer , every case is different. In my opinion people like Grealish , Rice are English if you like born and raised here with roots elsewhere so ultimately it’s their choice. As an England fan I struggled with Hargreaves for England he had a Canadian accent and had never played any football in England it appeared. But one of his parents or both I think were English so he maybe felt English so it’s his choice . Haaland is born in Leeds he isn’t English is he ? Interesting debate

@thanos7753 9 ай бұрын

Hargreaves has two English parents so he literally can't be any more English, its in the DNA.

@DontH8Ivan 9 ай бұрын

Think the rules are fine as is tbh. I don’t think you have to have an affinity for a certain country to play for them. Also, how can you tell someone who’s family lineage is from somewhere that no you shouldn’t be allowed to play for them cause you didn’t grow up there or play for them as a youth. A lot of times the language we speak, food we eat, overall culture is influenced just as much from the country our parents/grandparents are from as the one we live in. Sure there’s varying degrees of this, ie Matty Cash playing for Poland since he doesn’t really seem like he was influenced by that side of his fam at all, but still idt that should stop your eligibility so long as you never played in a competitive match/ tourney for another country already.

@DeltaKilo9 9 ай бұрын

For a 71 year old martin o'Neill is as sharp as a tack! Love hearing his take on the world of football.

@robertcallow1149 8 ай бұрын

he's 71

@userkev5150 9 ай бұрын

Simon is spot on here

@RockomusiK 9 ай бұрын

Keep that same energy when taking Irish players 😂 ah no, if I was Bellingham, Rice, and Grealish I wouldn't play for us either 😂 O'Neill was very careful answering that question haha

@conorsmith8551 9 ай бұрын

Bellingham was eligible for Ireland?? Never knew that haha

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

@@conorsmith8551 And Kane and err Maguire, 😅

@metoo3702 9 ай бұрын

Yes, an Irish granny somewhere, supoosed to be getting an Irish passport these weeks to facilitate him playing at Real Madrid..@@conorsmith8551

@RockomusiK 9 ай бұрын

@@conorsmith8551 yeah I was shocked myself, through his granny I think. He was recently looking for an Irish passport for Madrid because it helped there if he was a European citizen. Otherwise I think he needed a visa. Google it, there was a story on it recently.

@RockomusiK 9 ай бұрын

@@SirAntoniousBlock definitely kane, he has family in mayo. Maguire you can keep. 🤣

@darkno6493 8 ай бұрын

Should be the exact same system with managers, only able to manage the nation you were born and raised in unless you’re a Haaland, only born in England because of his fathers job etc.

@63mckenzie 9 ай бұрын

We all know English players playing for Scotland, Wales, N Ireland and Eire are only doing so because they are not good enough for England.

@conorsmith8551 9 ай бұрын

Years ago under jack , I thought Andy Townsend would have been good enough for England , strange England overlooked him

@UKStreetsDontLie 9 ай бұрын

In the 90s any Englishman that had ever worn green was eligible for Ireland

@miamitten1123 9 ай бұрын

lol

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

The best was John Aldridge at USA 94 clearly heard swearing lividly at the linesman in thick scouse. 😂

@UKStreetsDontLie 9 ай бұрын

@@SirAntoniousBlock Precisely mate 😂 He was the first one that came to mind, also Jason McAteer, Andy Townsend, Paul McGrath, Chris Hughton, Mark Lawrenson, Tony Cascarino, Mick McCarthy… the list goes on and on and not a hint of an Irish accent between them 😂

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

@@UKStreetsDontLie Well everyone in the British isles has been so culturally intertwined for thousands of years identity is really just a matter of preference.

@jamesjenkins1680 9 ай бұрын

totally agree simon merceries

@craig5346 9 ай бұрын

I have English, irish, Spanish and such choices if i was a player. Only one country I would ever play for. My birth country of England. If i was not good enough to get in to it. Or only played 3 friendlies and was asked to switch to any of the others, then it would be a flat out no. England or nothing x

@TheGiantKillers 9 ай бұрын

International rules of blocking a player once they play a competitive game are wrong. Personally I think that you're allegiance to a National team should be allowed to expire if you haven't played for them for three years. To give an example. Let's say for argument's sake, Declan Rice wasn't called up again for England. Come September 2026 on the third anniversary of his last cap, he would be free to accept a call up to the Republic of Ireland team again. For those decrying that as terrible, did you know that back when they were discussing the Football League as an idea, one of the restrictive rules put forward was that clubs should only be allowed to field two players not born within thirty miles of the home ground.

@crumdub12 9 ай бұрын

Martin O Neill .... Irish with an MBE , do me a favour

@MisterrSZ 9 ай бұрын

we've just gotten to the point where players will look in what NT they can actually play and they'll "choose" to represent that country than. it's a shame tbh if your representing a country because of a nephew of you grandfather and stuff like that 🤣 if you moved to a country at a young age and grew up there i can understand it but some players have almost no ties to the actual country they represent and that is where i have an issue with

@sj2672 9 ай бұрын

Due to Southgate's odd selection policy, I don't blame any players for wanting to switch countries. There are players good enough to play for England but are not even selected for the squad.

@SamLesGo 9 ай бұрын

True but it can also work the other way around ( grealish & rice for ex )

@sj2672 9 ай бұрын

@SamLesGo Yes, it can, but they play regularly for their clubs and have been selected on merit. Why are Phillips and McGuire being selected, and what does that say to players who have had good seasons but can't even get in the squad.

@frasierfreak92 9 ай бұрын

It’s stupid the way if you’re capped as a senior you can’t play for a different country. Should be like rugby where no call-ups for X years means you can switch allegiance. Joe Gomez hasn’t been called up for 3 years, he’d definitely prefer to play for Guyana if he could. I bet you Trent would rather play for America too if he’d known how Southgate was going to treat him.

@markweir2988 9 ай бұрын

He is English Born so should play for England. He is still young and now in a top team so given time injuries retirements and players falling out of favour He will get his chance.

@GordonCaledonia 9 ай бұрын

Goes on all over the world. Switzerland, Qatar, BRAZIL, loads of Brazil-born players these days play for other countries. Who's that guy who plays for Equatorial Guinea? Excellent player... look him up, he's Spanish by birth, upbringing. It's all about their attitude. If their heart is in it, then good lad, but if they act like a knob, an egomaniac, then bin them, that's goes for any player.

@calvinhicks1992 9 ай бұрын

@GordonCaledonia To be fair Equatorial Guinea 🇬🇶 was a Spanish colony, so that one is a different situation. It’s like Eusebio playing for Portugal despite being born and raised in Mozambique, a then Portuguese colony.

@GordonCaledonia 9 ай бұрын

@@calvinhicks1992 Mozambique didn't have a national team then, though, nor Angola. Eusebio was playing in Mozambique and the Benfica scouts came and saw him. He was a humble man, amazing. FIFA will probably tighten the rules in the next decade, there's too much shenanigans going on with Switzerland, Qatar, etc. If they are not going to allow more nations into UEFA/FIFA, Gibraltar is apparently going to be the last, then they need to make it more eligibility more rigorous. Cheers, Calvin!

@maxp5422 9 ай бұрын

Should only be eligible for 1 country that of your passport

@christopherhudson4134 9 ай бұрын

Just play for the country you are born in as that can't be disputed. End of

@kylelacey8036 8 ай бұрын

Especially when you have played for England

@Simon-yl5jd 9 ай бұрын

I think your answer should of been I'm Northern Irish Martin and I'm a proud northern Irish man

@rhysclanford-roberts2091 9 ай бұрын

Whats the point in him being available for england when southgate is there, he would play maguire on the wing before barnes

@justusdavid5999 9 ай бұрын

An English man, a Scottish man, and an Irish man went into a pub..........

@rhysbuckley2120 9 ай бұрын

Why "he thinks"

@Jonathan-yd8ud 9 ай бұрын

So Rice and Grealish should be told they can't play for England.

@Lane_Martin 9 ай бұрын

How many England players started their career with other nations.

@darkno6493 8 ай бұрын

I agree, it also stops meatheads from saying “England steal players” how can you steal a player who was born in England? The only foreign born player in the set up is Raheem Sterling. Compared to the several English born players in the Welsh, Scottish and Irish sides 🤥

@joshconnor6807 9 ай бұрын

I don’t like simons point. I’m a dual citizen of both USA and Britain. I feel proud to be both. If because Ive grown up in England I’ve played in the England youth team but at the age of 20 feel getting into the senior side isn’t possible I would want to switch. I would be proud to play for USA as I would be for England

@bluepearl_22 9 ай бұрын

Luckily Simon's point will have zero effect on how the rules work

@lich8103 9 ай бұрын

Well tuff but youre a true citizen of where you where born nothing more nothing less, it's like switching cultures or tribes, its not real

@craig5346 9 ай бұрын

Lack substance. Love Simon.

@MrCarrera28 9 ай бұрын

What about a player that is born in a country but is raised in another country? Christian Vieri was born in Italy but lived in Australia from age 4 until 17. Naturally he played for Italy as that was a shot at winning the World cup, but he had citizenship for both countries and had lived in Australia for more time than Italy. Absolutely no criticism on my part for choosing Italy. Or Craig Johnston who was born in South Africa, grew up in Australia and considered himself Australian but played for England under 21 and declined offers to play for Australia as England was a chance to win Silverware.

@GordonCaledonia 9 ай бұрын

Mel Gibson, too. Mel's stunning 88th minute winner for Australia against Israel in the 1974 World Cup qualifying playoffs still gives Paul Hogan and Kylie shivers.

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

@@GordonCaledonia No you got it all wrong, Israel knocked out Australia, this led many years later to his drunken antisemitic rants.

@GordonCaledonia 9 ай бұрын

@@SirAntoniousBlock "I DESERVE TO GET BLOWN BEFORE I GO IN THE JACUZZI!!!!" That's the rant on the phone to his girlfriend! Hahaha! Mad Mel, ya gotta love him!

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

@@GordonCaledonia That's a good thing, if you're next in the Jacuzzi. 😅

@johndough1703 9 ай бұрын

England: ⬛🟫⬜⬛🟫⬜⬛🟫🟫⬜ France: ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬜⬛⬛⬛🟫⬜ *At What Point are they No Longer English or French* ?? A: we are long past that point

@johndough1703 9 ай бұрын

This moronic, unscientific, communistic idea of someone being African for 5 million years and simply being born in French makes night somehow day completely erases the identity of the French. It is *Cultural Genocide* and qualifies as actual genocide under the Geneva convention

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

Southgate only picked Harry Maguire to stop Ireland snapping him up. 😂

@metoo3702 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Southgate!. 😂😂

@SirAntoniousBlock 9 ай бұрын

@@metoo3702 😅

@davidgraham6781 9 ай бұрын

Once u play for the senior international team whether it's a friendly or not, then that should be it. Don't make it a farce. Lol 😆😆

@rizzledizzle9801 9 ай бұрын

Think if you play for a country at any age you shouldnt be able to switch, however if youve never played for a country and are eligible for a few countries it should be your choice.

@miamitten1123 9 ай бұрын

Jimi Hendrix the legend.

@MALEXI10 9 ай бұрын

Martin, you played for Northern Ireland! You managed the Irish Republic. You should have chosen ROI if you love them that much 😂

@mikedee171 9 ай бұрын

For once I agree with Simon.

@tevildo45 9 ай бұрын

Simon saying the Europeans lack substance. Simon mate you are European 😂

@yearo77 9 ай бұрын

O’Neil a legend and a top man. This generation aren’t built the same and I don’t blame Harvey Barnes.

@conorsmith8551 9 ай бұрын

He played for NI in the World Cup so it’s interesting the questions simons asking here if given the choice would Martin have chose NI or ROI. I’m sure that’s not the point simon was trying to make but made me think it was interesting nonetheless haha

@metoo3702 9 ай бұрын

Knob's knob...

@registame2878 9 ай бұрын

Martin stuttered on whether he is a proud Irish man…. Wow😮

@mikedon5205 9 ай бұрын

No he didn't 😂

@registame2878 9 ай бұрын

@@mikedon5205 come on he did… 😂😂😂 it stop me in my tracks not hear a sharpe yes of course…. That was either a pregnant pause or the hesitation of a lifetime..

@tevildo45 9 ай бұрын

He hesitated cos he knew it was a gotcha question

@mikedon5205 9 ай бұрын

@registame2878 the post above beat me to it .. He knew Simon Jordan was trying to corner him .. That said I agree with Jordan if you pull on the Jersey of any nation at senior level that should be the end of it

@bluepearl_22 9 ай бұрын

Being proud of something you literally had no say in like your place of birth makes little to no sense imo

@KhanivoreQniba 9 ай бұрын

Yet no one criticises Declan Rice anymore 😂😂😂😂

@kenkayd1266 9 ай бұрын

Martin needs go back to managing. He was great

@Paul-yo4mr 9 ай бұрын

Stokes nz hartley nz vunipola tuilagi petersen mike catt etc plenty played fr england even raheem and barnesy were jamaican

@darkno6493 8 ай бұрын

I also don’t agree players should be able to play for a country they weren’t born in, unless you’re in a position like Haaland for England, he was only born in England because of his fathers job and therefore he is still Norwegian.