Simon Jordan & Jim White Take A DEEP DIVE Into What Is Really Happening At Reading! 🙏

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3 ай бұрын

Dive in with Simon Jordan and Jim White as they unravel what's really going on at Reading Football Club!
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@CrunchyKieran15 3 ай бұрын

This is why simon is on this show, mixing high emotion scenarios with facts and reasonable judgment, best part of talksport

@brandodo1997 3 ай бұрын

but its always Simon Jordan did it this way, everyone should do it this way... yeah he's being pragmatic and its interesting but cmon, his advice is always the contrary to actions of managers and club owners. Simon says, but his previous actions and experiences show nowt.... its a backed up devil's advocate point of view. Most contradicting ranty pundit out there

@danielogrady6562 3 ай бұрын

As a Reading boy I'm delighted we are being talked about now. We have been quietly dying for years now and something like the game vs Port Vale needed to be done. We miss John Madejski our steady and honest former owner for many years. Miss them days coming 8th in the PL, breaking records and winning play off finals. Feels like a lifetime ago now. 😢

@kieranhardy581 3 ай бұрын

You'll get the same treatment as wigan, they'll talk for a bit. Then you'll be tossed aside.

@khylelewis 3 ай бұрын

As a Swans fa, I understand, but per usual, Simon is right on this. Anybody who's spent quarter a billion pounds and is just expected to sell a club for nothing is preposterous. I wouldn't, and neither would you. Even if I owned the swans I'd want to recoup something. :/

@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын

@@khylelewis The problem is that the 'insider' word is that he doesn't really care about selling the club. He's had enough and just wants to asset strip, selling the stadium and training ground for redevelopment. If someone comes in who'd pay more than he'd get from liquidating, he'd accept, but he's already moved the stadium and training ground to different companies, so they wouldn't be seen as football club assets in any liquidation. Currently he gets £1.5 million a year in rent, so he might just keep the club running on life support so he can claim that each year, but not care how the team performs. Fans would have to be brave/stupid to buy a season ticket for next season.

@ryanlees8967 3 ай бұрын

Simon is without doubt the best on TalkSport and I don’t even agree with some of his opinions but he always justifies his opinion with facts and logic

@fernandesloyal 3 ай бұрын

I use to work on Reading stadium . It’s a shame how things changed . Reading fans are the most lovable ❤

@andyfletch1434 3 ай бұрын

This was a great segment to the show! well done Talksport! Also loved the carry on moment when Carol went oohhh simon! 🤣

@larrymcavoy2940 3 ай бұрын

Without a Jordan we would just be dealing in emotion and not fact. Too drawer as always Simon

@jasonreeve3040 3 ай бұрын

Interesting conversation, the lady caller was very interesting too.

@britpackdog4545 3 ай бұрын

Best of luck reading

@McBoaster 3 ай бұрын

Not attending wouldn't have been as effective and completely impractical, as some fans will always go no matter what where they can. The fact that we have got so much coverage, shows that the ends justify the means. Even if Sky themselves were too feckless to send a reporter 30 minutes down the road from sunny West London to cover the match.

@Akinwalesegun 3 ай бұрын

It doesnt you've got coverage, what has the coverage gotten you? Seems youbare after attention more than solution

@tycosyco 3 ай бұрын

@@Akinwalesegun it’s put pressure on the EFL to act. The head of the EFL met Reading fan groups today, do you really think that would’ve happened without the pitch invasion and subsequent media coverage of the incident?

@McBoaster 3 ай бұрын

@@Akinwalesegun It has coverage now, however this was much less before where we have been largely ignored outside of Reading. As @tycosyco says, this has forced the EFL to engage and they are complicit having sanctioned the owner 6.5 years ago. Not to mentioned Talksport, Sky, most other MSN (even Radio 1!) to pay attention and none of this would have occurred without the events of Saturday. Hopefully this will expedite a change of ownership and a new rule to give the EFL more power to rescind the rights of delinquent owners. This is not about Reading FC only, but all clubs and particularly those smaller clubs who have suffered greatly that perhaps didn't have the profile we have. Change may of happened in the past if Villa hadn't been saved, a much bigger club but were in similar position.

@tudougames86 3 ай бұрын

Wish they'd let Simon do the phone interview

@alfieb6711 3 ай бұрын

Jordan doing gods work❤

@redjacc7581 3 ай бұрын

Uf this owner has had similar issues at other clubs around the world, how the hell did he pass the FA's "fit and proper" test to own a club in the UK?

@Explorations84 3 ай бұрын

More coverage on the plight on teams in the EFL needed! The understanding of other leagues by the average fan on a premiership team is non-existant with some clubs just a portfolio builder for a foreign owner.

@michaelusher6718 3 ай бұрын

Most fans of PL clubs don't think football exists below Prem, unfortunately

@Akinwalesegun 3 ай бұрын

Why should thru do yoi know what happens in the northwest pro league? Take your high horse and shove it behind

@mathewthomas588 2 ай бұрын

As a Brighton fan who donned the green of Plymouth in solidarity with those guys as they did for us, days at the Withdean no roof pissing rain scout hut as board room where we are now isn’t lost on us I stop my season ticket when we got to the prem for me the EFL is the real working man’s game the prem reminds me of the WWE there is only one party I town the EFL needs to embrace the product they have on the contrary to what pundits say the championship is a fantastic league to watch, so what you don’t have the big names in the lower leagues let us make names bring young talent through ban them from moving to the prem until they are at least 21 if they have been part of a clubs academy for more than 5 years. And if the players don’t like it don’t sign a contract to a club and not honour it if anyone of us did that in our jobs especially tradesman your reputation would be ruined

@gothicgorey 3 ай бұрын

I can’t believe that reading game not been classed has a forefit. They have directly effected port vale season. If you supporters cause a game to be ended it should reward the 3 points to the other team and should be made to refund the away supporters . Very simple

@anderswillestofte9376 3 ай бұрын

agred most other country Reading would be declar loser by 3 - 0

@jon-gz4ed 3 ай бұрын

as a reading fan i agree that should be the right choice you are right

@derrfes 3 ай бұрын

I think a forfeit would be before the game, whereas an abandonment is during play.

@gothicgorey 3 ай бұрын

@@derrfes You know what I am getting at.

@BlindDweller 3 ай бұрын

I'm guessing you've not heard about the £8000 compensation money the Reading fans have raised for Port Vale since then? All on their own volition, by the way...

@dirtygunslinger9835 3 ай бұрын

I reckon Laurence “I’m gonna tell you” Bassini should buy them.

@spikyturtle54 3 ай бұрын

Simon! Simon! I'm gonna tell you!

@scottp4547 3 ай бұрын

That thumbnail of Simon Jordan is class

@tylerwilson6561 3 ай бұрын

Agreed, must’ve been intentional 😂😂

@JamesLenehan-es7ir 3 ай бұрын

Never knew Simon owned a football club. He never mentions it!!

@FabulousWanderers 3 ай бұрын

David 😀🧡🖤👍 West Brom will give us a good game, they have a big strong quality squad. It's going to be tough. 🤞🧡🖤

@davidmcgarry8910 3 ай бұрын

The problem began with the Thai consortium that bought the club and were only in it for the asset stripping. I can't say much more from where I am, but they are to blame for most of this mess. At least the current owner spent his own money and tried to make the club successful.

@unchattytwit Ай бұрын

Great show - best football show out there. Simon talking sense.

@db1019 3 ай бұрын

The Glasgow Sevco were liquidated in 2012 but they have always been a tiny club

@RM-hj7zo 3 ай бұрын

We (pvfc) were supportive

@thomaskendell8146 3 ай бұрын

👏👏👏

@user-if6bx1gq5w 3 ай бұрын

KZfaq can take this down talksport can take this down but I’ve always said and always will say “when it comes to china, trust, care, best for others are not words I associate with them”

@Daisy-yq1gi 3 ай бұрын

Meanwhile Jordan is probably right to suggest that fans boycott the next home match. At this point, gate revenue is hardly an issue given tens of millions in debt. Whatever happens, IF the club can be saved, then someone with a huge investment will need to come in...

@Akinwalesegun 3 ай бұрын

But the more damaged the club looks the less like some rich owner will come, maybe the club fans buy the club

@stuartparker1818 3 ай бұрын

Boycott is the stupidest option most people have season tickets so what does the boycott do?

@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын

@@Akinwalesegun The owner wants £30 million+. There's no way the fans can raise that amount.

@jon-gz4ed 3 ай бұрын

it wont give the players any confidence playing in front of an empty stadium they need the support of the fans to let them know that we are here to support them in this scary situation they are part of our family to us supporters and will never forget them

@gordonhawkes4428 3 ай бұрын

Needs noting this discussion and condemnation for our apparently disproportionate action was after they had listened to - and lapped up - Pang’s words (lies), naively assuming what he said must have been true and / or that supporters haven’t heard this before, for a long time. However valid what Jordan said, he’d probably approach this with far more empathy for us if he were more educated about these specific circumstances. We’d argue that such desperate measures are now required. This mismanagementship has been occurring for a very long time and we have shown a great deal of patience. We’re so desperate and anxious, that a lot of rational thinking concerning his points has gone out of the window!

@tommytompk 3 ай бұрын

Simon wouldn't even be talking about Reading Fc if we didn't get on the pitch. Zzzz

@stuartparker1818 3 ай бұрын

This is the truth, its the only reason we have got any coverage. It is sad but I see many other clubs following suit.

@leemartin5734 3 ай бұрын

The owner wants to put the club into safe hands what a joke, new rules need to be implemented to prevent these corrupt people doing what they do. The protest to get the game abandoned was the best course of action as it brought it to everyones attention.

@050281simon 3 ай бұрын

Did Kesha write a song about this owner?

@pazzledazzleable 3 ай бұрын

Actually we've had an awful lot of support from other clubs and their fans. A tiny number of Reading "fans" mocked Derby and Pompy and a tiny number of opposition "fans" have mocked us. Stick to the facts lads.

@neil1982 3 ай бұрын

That whole part was glazed over in about 10 seconds but this is what you pick out of a near half an hour video.

@tanman966 3 ай бұрын

Jim *constantly* fiddling with his nose and clacking his dry mouth ...

@willtallis5275 3 ай бұрын

No they shouldn’t be more patient this club have been in the premier league in the last decade they are now in league 1 and going to league 2 so this owner hasn’t done anything to improve anything and will just walk away it’s my hometown club and doesn’t deserve this and isn’t he suppose to be safe hands that was just a kop out when owners aren’t good enough why can’t they come out say I’m sorry we haven’t been good enough but they don’t it’s excuse after excuse of these owners and it’s not just reading it’s many many clubs he doesn’t even pay his players but they rules let this guy in I don’t support them but the fans are right

@andybarnard4575 3 ай бұрын

If you are a player who has not had his wages paid, you file a winding up order, put the club into administration (you can appoint the administrator) and the debt to the current owner is written off. Selling without the debt might be easier....

@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын

Nobody can force a club into administration. A winding up order, if it succeeds, results in liquidation of the business, with its assets used to pay creditors.

@andybarnard4575 3 ай бұрын

@@RevSticklebackYeah, technically correct, except if you appoint the liquidator you agree beforehand that the best way to maximise returns to the creditors is to sell it on as a going concern without the debt owed to the previous owner. Happens all the time, called a pre-pack.

@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын

@@andybarnard4575 A further complication though is that the stadium and training ground have been moved to other companies, so a forced liquidation wouldn't touch those. Dai would be under no obligation to agree a reasonable rental fee for either (he currently charges £1.5 million a year for the stadium) and could just sell them at any time, to anybody - which is thought to be his intention. If the club folds, and the stadium goes, the club is dead. Properly dead. There's no alternative ground they could use. We've seen Brighton and Coventry do temporary groundshares, but they did them as league clubs.

@andybarnard4575 3 ай бұрын

@@RevStickleback Ah, OK! Far too complicated when there is a tangled web of related companies. If we could get the remaining Reading supporters along to Maidenhead United, perhaps we could double our usual crowd then....

@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын

@@andybarnard4575 If the club does fold and restart, and can't come to any sort of agreement over using the Madejski, playing at Maidenhead might be the only option in the short term. There's nothing in Reading remotely suitable. Maybe your club secretary/PA guy Neil could be persuaded to start off the singing again, like he used to at the Madejski.

@jamesabbott8621 3 ай бұрын

As a Brighton fan that stormed the pitch at The Goldstone fans have every right to enter the pitch and protest when their club could go under and the regulators are not listening

@matthewdoyle3877 3 ай бұрын

What about the Port Vale fans?

@loyalroyal 3 ай бұрын

The pitch invasion has put the club and its supporters in the spotlight. This is at least putting Dai Yongge in an uncomfortable public position. I don't agree with a lot of what Simon has said, but he nailed it when he said people are supposed to run their clubs properly.

@McSamwich91 3 ай бұрын

empty stadium will defineately not cause as much attention as a pitch invasion

@Bilner 3 ай бұрын

reading doing everything and more that teams like we Sheffield Wednesday should be doing🙌🦉

@jc6087 3 ай бұрын

Forcing someone to sell their property against their will is illegal. Forcing someone to buy something against their will is illegal. Imagine you bought a house and spent alot of money and time renovating it only for me to come along with a compulsory purchase order for less than the market price, would you be happy?

@r0cki3 3 ай бұрын

They's only one team in Sheffield and it's not Sheffield Wednesday no one will notice your gone

@shen_baba 3 ай бұрын

@@r0cki3 = TROLL

@stuartparker1818 3 ай бұрын

@@r0cki3 No one want's clubs to go bust that is just stupid.

@Mozzers84 3 ай бұрын

@@r0cki3 Can you speak up mate? I don't understand oink.

@exeter1985 3 ай бұрын

So they can take Chelsea Football Club away from Roman, but they claim that they can't take Reading away from this owner?

@mutts.nutts1 3 ай бұрын

Feel sorry for their fans but ultimately how did they pass the fit and proper tests

@samsungmccullagh3608 3 ай бұрын

There's a perfect solution, every team owner must put years full wages into a trust fund help by fifa , this then helps teams like reading when owners no longer afford wages there period of which an owner can be found. If new owner is buying a club then as part proof of funds that years salary must be paid upfront. All other owner must be paid within start of new new season or following season. The amount of interest generated on them wages could be then be used for players that struggle when don't make it. Helps the kids retrain for jobs help even players in game with there mental health. It's not difficult too set up or do. Owner should have 80% of there wealth in bank before buying a club. Not like man u situation they didn't have the money ready buy used loans against club too afford it. Not sure how u can get a loan on something you don't own.

@keybuckley 3 ай бұрын

The Bad Dai Yong

@adrianoverton7892 3 ай бұрын

I thought he was a Welshman lol

@Bhodisatvas 3 ай бұрын

He is

@thomaskendell8146 3 ай бұрын

What?

@jordanjb19 3 ай бұрын

CEO asking the fans for patience is an absolute joke. Simon Jordan as well is insufferable

@Taecoconut 3 ай бұрын

Simon is right.

@thomaskendell8146 3 ай бұрын

No he isn't

@Taecoconut 3 ай бұрын

@@thomaskendell8146 agree to disagree

@colinhumphrey2584 3 ай бұрын

Dai family was gonna buy our club Hull city. They paid a 6 million deposit, But they failed premier league proper persons test thank god, I have every sympathy for reading ,

@MarkPitsmoorOwl 3 ай бұрын

SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY Fans should have done more as half would just cry without doing anything

@calummacdougall8400 2 ай бұрын

I hope Reading get rescued.

@andy-incognito 3 ай бұрын

Chris Kirchner will buy them.

@royalhero4608 3 ай бұрын

Reading FC belongs to Dai Yonge, what sort of precedent would it set if someone had the power to take possession of it from him (however correct)

@bleb87 3 ай бұрын

The English need to learn from bundesliga

@keithskelton4914 3 ай бұрын

260 million in times up Reading fans let the teams play on or put the club into administration

@thomaskendell8146 3 ай бұрын

Why?

@melvynkersley-nc8fx Ай бұрын

It was the EFL who allowed Di to take the club over after refusing him Hull!! They have now put a ban on Chinese owners,( and Russians) ,as far as I am concerned we are being punished for their mistakes!!! All around the leagues they have total contempt for the EFL!

@brianmagill3086 3 ай бұрын

Spot On Simon!

@teamtempest844 3 ай бұрын

Exactly! Don't like it - don't attend or buy up the club shop. Do not stop games, think of the away fans at least. Want to change it?! Buy shares in the company! Can't buy shares?!... Read the first bit again.

@stuartparker1818 3 ай бұрын

It worked though didn't it we are finally being herd, I don't want it to happen again but it may have been needed

@exeter1985 3 ай бұрын

If Simon Jordan thinks that he knows everything and all of the rest of us know nothing, then why was it that he failed miserably as an owner of a football club?

@kevinsmoother 3 ай бұрын

Egg fried rice and chicken chow mein

@bleb87 3 ай бұрын

Didnt the prem force a certain owner out of chelsea?

@stuartparker1818 3 ай бұрын

They did and that kind of the point.

@bleb87 3 ай бұрын

@@stuartparker1818 Simon said they can't do that...

@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын

If you mean Abramovich, that wasn't the premier league's doing.

@xmazer22 3 ай бұрын

Wow now ts are talking real football this is happening up and down the country

@66556086 3 ай бұрын

I like a chocolate tea cup.

@lfcspectre4335 3 ай бұрын

Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

@MW92. 3 ай бұрын

💯 facts on the daily 🤝

@lfcspectre4335 3 ай бұрын

@@MW92. Jordanite Leader = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

@thomaskendell8146 3 ай бұрын

@MW92. 3 ай бұрын

@@thomaskendell8146 cry more for us boy

@Bhodisatvas 3 ай бұрын

As a Coventry fan this sounds all too familiar, hope Reading can shake off this parasite soon though going by our experiences it may take years.

@777jimothy 3 ай бұрын

16:27 - bet he's heard that from a few girls

@SNAFU.. 2 ай бұрын

I'll buy it.......£50

@wildmanmountainjack3725 3 ай бұрын

The government is about as much use as a chocolate teacup.

@robertstraw9881 3 ай бұрын

Oh I travel boy.

@user-uf6sk4uw9c 3 ай бұрын

Chocolate teacup lol

@jonhayes7322 3 ай бұрын

If you disqualify him, someone has to pay the bills…

@stephenwellstead 3 ай бұрын

We can put the football club first … so Simon what ever you think off our club .. forget it

@glenntaylor9144 3 ай бұрын

How much is it going for? I can drum up £25m

@johnm725 3 ай бұрын

Well we certainly all know Chinese markets are in a bad way.

@danwillson8590 3 ай бұрын

The league cant force new ownership even if the rules allow it it doesn't work. They have the right to remove team ownership licences for teams in the A-League in Australia and currently there is 2-4 teams without owners being propped up by other teams in the league paying the bills . All of which reduces the quality of players and the game with no chance of new owners in sight for years!! And the want to expand the league, lol.

@johnpaulreed4862 3 ай бұрын

As sad as it is people need to get used to the fact that reading is going to go belly up.

@1995abv 3 ай бұрын

Dont die yung

@davidroberts1245 3 ай бұрын

I trust Caroline and her ilk will be refunding the Port Vale fans for their wasted journey as a direct result of the Reading fans actions....and Port Vale should be awarded the game. As a Sheffield Wednesday fan i have every sympathy for their current plight but to force an abandonment that punishes Port Vale and their fans like that is just ridiculous.

@stuartparker1818 3 ай бұрын

We have already raised over £5000 for a port vale charity as sign of solidarity and that is not the rules so no we shouldn't you should have more sympathy for people in the same situation.

@RevStickleback 3 ай бұрын

The abandonment wasn't planned by any group. The protest was meant to be after the game, but some decided it would be better during the game, and some of those decided to stay on and go for the abandonment. There were only about 40 people on the pitch at the end.

@liamnugent6534 3 ай бұрын

Let Simon in to reading Hel sort it out

@michaelscott1036 3 ай бұрын

Port vale should get the 3 points for that game anReadding should also get a ground Say 3 games without fans

@stuartparker1818 3 ай бұрын

I assume you support a premier league club as you totally don't get this situation at all.

@melvynkersley-nc8fx Ай бұрын

Do you think Di was a victim of greedy agents telling him to “buy this player and that player” causing him to over spend when he didn’t know anything about our financial rules! Also he has already bankrupted two other clubs before being allowed to take Reading over!!!

@brandodo1997 3 ай бұрын

Pragmatism and learning business processes is not revolutionary, Simon Jordan gets too much credit for this. Suppose he looks great when you've got Darren Bent offering his 'wisdom' on the same station

@bleb87 3 ай бұрын

You buy a english club, the fans come with it like it or not. The club is more than the players, than the buildings. You may own the team, the rights, the profits, but you can never own the club. The fans are The club

@prvvideoonline7993 3 ай бұрын

wrong. legally he does own the club, which is a private Limited company.

@Cockermadman 3 ай бұрын

Simons forgetting that he put the ground ,land and training ground into another company , so if reading go bust , he can sell the rest and make a lot of his money back .

@prvvideoonline7993 3 ай бұрын

not illegal at all. lots of clubs, which are businesses, do that

@Cockermadman 3 ай бұрын

@@prvvideoonline7993 ,where did I say it was illegal , just saying it could help the owner to recoup a lot of the money if the football club goes bust . The land is worth a lot of money and this might be his thinking .

@mpsymonds1 3 ай бұрын

How can you blame the EFL. Does anyone praise the EFL for getting promoted. But maybe some blame has to head towards previous owners. For those clubs that maybe want a change of owner, who might getting a bit long in the tooth. Be careful what you wish for.

@Formally-known-Prince-Andrew 3 ай бұрын

Well hello there 😏

@jc6087 3 ай бұрын

Forcing someone to sell their property against their will is illegal, its coercive fraud.

@David-rh6zg 3 ай бұрын

Is talkSPORT trying to take the oiss out of its listeners …??? If they are going to raise this subject can they do it with a pundit that didn’t nearly wipe Crystal Palace of the face of the earth as an owner please

@Daisy-yq1gi 3 ай бұрын

Jordan is paid to be controversial, to be the deviks advocate but even he must realise that football is about a good deal more than money, rules and so called financial probity. And its fairly obvious that many owners are bent.....

@blackstar7718 3 ай бұрын

The world we live in now, football clubs are run on a business model from top to bottom and is 💯 all about money. Simon is spot on while its jim who likes to play devils advocate.

@trevorjoneill707 3 ай бұрын

this is money not a sport club if the fans want it buy it otherwise get lost

@GermanChickenwing 3 ай бұрын

Funny ffp cant safe Reading..

@MW92. 3 ай бұрын

Simon = top LAD proper clobber. Another fact dropped by the archangel of truth telling 🤝

@seanbonella 3 ай бұрын

simon spells it out, you might not agree all the time but thats impossible anyways.

@jc6087 3 ай бұрын

Getting matches abandoned is cheating, we've had this before where a teams losing and their fans invade the pitch to try and get a replay. Reading should be docked points for getting a match purposefully abandoned and they should be fined for not keeping their fans under control and bring the game into disrepute.

@saxon5008 3 ай бұрын

Expect it was 0-0 at the time

@bg22757 3 ай бұрын

@@saxon5008doesn't matter

@saxon5008 3 ай бұрын

@@bg22757 it does when he is implying we did it to stop us losing. Think port vale should be given the 3 points though

@Gas_615 3 ай бұрын

@@saxon5008 exactly Vale should be given 3 points

@jamesmilligan2797 3 ай бұрын

Dai Yong Pang FFS 😂😂😂

@paulbendikas2313 3 ай бұрын

you try being a derby fan we had 2 points deducted twice had no money couldn't buy players no owner relegated to league 1 nearly went out of business.

@stuartparker1818 3 ай бұрын

Mate we have had all that and more, we have not been allowed to sign players for money for over 5 years, I would feel lucky to be a derby fan compared at the moment.