Simon Jordan REVEALS Why People CARE LESS About Pochettino At Chelsea Than Ten Hag At Man United 👀🔥

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4 ай бұрын

TalkSPORT's Simon Jordan explains why he believes people care less about Mauricio Pochettino's struggles at Chelsea, than Erik ten Hag's at Manchester United.
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@patrickmullins7981
@patrickmullins7981 4 ай бұрын
Ten Hag had more criticism and attention on him after losing his first 2 games in charge than Poch has got this entire season .
@stegray1422
@stegray1422 4 ай бұрын
Spot on 👏
@newtowncomics315
@newtowncomics315 4 ай бұрын
Spot on... Jesus this Talk sport pundits... Chelsea is doing something which has never been done before.... really... Chelsea is spending uselessly... as compared to Red Bull Salzburg
@ste4392
@ste4392 4 ай бұрын
Yeh mate, they're petrified United will have succeed again, because they'll have no content
@destianpatrianagara1119
@destianpatrianagara1119 4 ай бұрын
Cause Man United are the bigger club that's why
@NinpoUK
@NinpoUK 4 ай бұрын
lol yep, Erik Ten Games they were calling him
@thelmaviaduct
@thelmaviaduct 4 ай бұрын
"They're a manufacturered club like Man City" Never a truer statement said. 👍🏿
@barryh.4220
@barryh.4220 4 ай бұрын
How can any football club founded 120 years ago, as Chelsea were, possibly be manufactured?? Abramovich only bought them 20 years ago .....
@drep9028
@drep9028 4 ай бұрын
ManU was also "manufactured" from a club called Newton Heath then? When an investor saved them? We should stop blindly gobble up what sections of the media push.
@drep9028
@drep9028 4 ай бұрын
@@barryh.4220 exactly! That would mean all EPL clubs were "manufactured" then. And Chelsea and City won trophies before their recent investors.
@JayJay-mr5ln
@JayJay-mr5ln 4 ай бұрын
Who cares about their opinion we Chelsea don't give a damn
@project-ww9gx
@project-ww9gx 4 ай бұрын
We chelsea 😂 its just american club who dont know what to do
@matthewm3869
@matthewm3869 4 ай бұрын
“ETH has been here longer.” Can’t be an excuse. Last season ETH got slated whenever United lost or had a poor run of form. United finished top 4 and won a (Mickey mouse) cup, but was still slated for the way United played.
@GeneralBlaze95
@GeneralBlaze95 4 ай бұрын
Well if you have watched Chelsea they have actually played good football but they wasn’t winning but as of late the football has got worse but at least they are winning but when you not playing good and you lose uproar like expected but Chelsea have been looking worse recently
@MrChipz900
@MrChipz900 4 ай бұрын
He did get beat 7-0
@youngen_1239
@youngen_1239 4 ай бұрын
2 cup finals and 3rd place.... Not abd for first season
@destianpatrianagara1119
@destianpatrianagara1119 4 ай бұрын
Because Man United are the bigger club and the media love to making fun of them. Hated, Adored, Never Ignored.
@aurynwestwield1682
@aurynwestwield1682 4 ай бұрын
@@destianpatrianagara1119 we've been ignored for a decade now brah no1 takes that club seriously anymore.
@bobbates797
@bobbates797 4 ай бұрын
Wasn’t Simon moaning about being bored with the amount of talking about United the other day? Just can’t stop can he 😂
@LeeTAZ-sl7de
@LeeTAZ-sl7de 4 ай бұрын
Well he's probably realised talking about United is the only reason anyone ever bothers with Talksport.
@bobbates797
@bobbates797 4 ай бұрын
@@LeeTAZ-sl7de spot on they’re just feeding on the United name for relevance. Cheap clicks.
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
​@@bobbates797same with the Chelsea name all pundits are just parasites recycling social media fake news
@jamescorlett5272
@jamescorlett5272 4 ай бұрын
U N I T E D Simon knows .
@davidbuisson
@davidbuisson 4 ай бұрын
Don’t have to listen to him you know
@Silverblue121
@Silverblue121 4 ай бұрын
I'm fed up of so called experts calling clubs like Manchester City and Chelsea as plastic or manufactured clubs. What exactly do these terms mean? Both clubs have history and before everyone starts shouting they haven't got a history of winning silverware, every club has its heyday... Leeds, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester United have had their periods of success, before them, you could include Preston, Burnley and Bolton. So both clubs have had money pumped into them, so what? Manchester United was owned by a millionaire in the 1950s... and was able to buy the best players without FFP. Other clubs didn't have a 'sugar daddy' during this period... would United be called a plastic club during that period?
@kennyw218
@kennyw218 4 ай бұрын
Plastic fan someone who supports a team because there winning I e Man Utd not many fans live in Manchester . Manafactured club clubs who bought titles before f f p came in spent millions on players
@michaellord2844
@michaellord2844 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate its painful to hear, but Simon is correct, Chelsea are only where they are right now thanks to Roman dropping 900k per WEEK for his near two decade stint as owner. They are basically QPR/Fulham with money.
@The_ghost_blur
@The_ghost_blur 4 ай бұрын
Chelsea qualified for champions league and won trophies prior to abramovich
@forumknight
@forumknight 4 ай бұрын
I don’t remember QPR or Fulham winning 5 trophy’s or playing in the the quarter finals of the Champions League between 1997-2000
@x_MVP
@x_MVP 4 ай бұрын
@@The_ghost_blurhadn’t won a league for 50 years and never sniffed a champions league before Roman
@michaellord2844
@michaellord2844 4 ай бұрын
Folks, I know its painful seeing the hard truth. This is Chelsea's trophy 'haul' before Roman. 1x First Division - 1954-55 3x FA Cup - 1969-70, 1996-97, 1999-2000 2x League Cup - 1964-65, 1997-98
@michaellord2844
@michaellord2844 4 ай бұрын
@@Shdhd2347 You're quite right, in 1971, congrats to those players obviously.
@charlesnkomo4148
@charlesnkomo4148 4 ай бұрын
I thought id seen mac allister way too much at Brighton for it to be just one season like Simon suggests,so i looked it up and he's actually been at Brighton since 2019/20,so much for 1 season😒
@thebeast3279
@thebeast3279 4 ай бұрын
98 appearances in the Premier League vs 6 months in Portugal. Nowhere near comparable. Mac Allister had much more experience in Argentina too.
@89StevieC
@89StevieC 4 ай бұрын
Pretty much somes up Talksport
@conorosullivan6513
@conorosullivan6513 4 ай бұрын
As a Chelsea fan, I do think the amount of money we spent is absurd and we should be in the spotlight more often for how we have played since spending all that money. We lost to Middlesbrough 1-0 in the Carabao Cup and people are immediately saying we should sack Poch. I think that is crazy. There is still a second leg to be played at Stamford Bridge and fortune could change in that leg. Poch needs time to bring out the best in the young players. They are inexperienced yes but give time. It is definitely not going to be an overnight thing where we are suddenly winning trophies left right and centre. That was the Abramovich era and it wasn't sustainable. This is the Boehly era now and it is an entirely different philosophy. Give it 5-10 years and then we can reflect on whether Boehly's plan is a failure or a success. With regards Ten Hag, I do think it is unjustified how much he and Utd are in the spotlight. Back in the day, Utd were pure bred winners. But they are in a transition period and need time. No point in sacking Ten Hag because it will be a new manager with an entirely different philosophy and progress will be hindered as a result because they will inherit a squad that they didn't want in the first place. Glazers never helped Utd either so Sir Jim Ratcliffe will be a breath of fresh air I would imagine.
@Cold_Logic
@Cold_Logic 4 ай бұрын
Most of Chelsea's new signings are untested and unproven at the highest level, yet, we assume they're destined to be worldbeaters just because they're FM wonderkids
@jdogg448
@jdogg448 4 ай бұрын
I'm happy to be proved wrong but Caicedo.....why was he £100 mil? I just don't see the fuss, although FM do lol
@FaithFullyFocusedTV
@FaithFullyFocusedTV 4 ай бұрын
Simon Grinning Like A Cheshire Cat when the Chelsea fan was agreeing with his point 😂 probably the most we’ll ever see him grinning & smile all uear
@user-pp8ju2dy3f
@user-pp8ju2dy3f 4 ай бұрын
Simon was in Chelsea's youth academy....they booted him out !!
@davidcollins2044
@davidcollins2044 4 ай бұрын
Same for Man City people don't really care they won the treble with a 115 charges
@imthecreatorofmyrealitymyf700
@imthecreatorofmyrealitymyf700 4 ай бұрын
If people don’t care according to you. The meaning of care: serious attention or consideration applied to doing something correctly or to avoid damage or risk. So if you don’t care stop talking about tem
@makeorbreak881
@makeorbreak881 4 ай бұрын
Yet on a video about Chelsea you mention City and their treble.
@dancam7130
@dancam7130 4 ай бұрын
Bang on ! No one cares , manufactured club with very little fan base
@daviddenham1511
@daviddenham1511 4 ай бұрын
Bs!…..get real, bet you’re a bitter Utd fan
@eferemogroup4376
@eferemogroup4376 4 ай бұрын
Man Utd fans feel so entitled. When they were dominating the Premier league for years, nobody was complaining. Simon is just an hypocrite
@richardlefaive1944
@richardlefaive1944 4 ай бұрын
Long term contracts will be an issue. Causes complacency in players which will always undermine the mananger and project.
@rockybalboap7763
@rockybalboap7763 4 ай бұрын
pochettino has the joshua affect? hes a nice guy like joshua ? Even andy jacobs ? likes pochettino ? A young squad and poch just sits with his legs crossed all match? Conte would be screaming at them and get every ounce out of his players !!!
@mojebi3804
@mojebi3804 4 ай бұрын
This whole notion that managers need to gesticulate like clowns on the sidelines to get more out of the players is really asinine IMO.
@rockybalboap7763
@rockybalboap7763 4 ай бұрын
@@mojebi3804 Ye really motivating for a young new squad sat there with your pipe and slippers ? think they need help dont you ?
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
@@mojebi3804 theyre mad because what he's doing isn't divisive and all the people commenting are rivals
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
"I looked on social media" says Jim. Top tier journalism. reading anonymous trolls and bots trash talk on twitter.
@user-pp8ju2dy3f
@user-pp8ju2dy3f 4 ай бұрын
Jim met Boehly in Qatar didn't you know.......but those expensive kickbacks Jim expected, did not arrive at Jims address.!!
@lewisguitarh2213
@lewisguitarh2213 4 ай бұрын
I think there's naturally more pressure on Utd, due to the size of the club, and of course, the fact they have not won anything significant for a long time (prem/ucl). Furthermore, I also think it's also fair to put across that Ten Hag had a relatively decent season last year, and this season he has taken two steps back again. Chelsea was already in a pickle when Poch arrived - Utd have gone from a decent place to, again, constant morale issues, and low performances on ths pitch.
@CarthaginianCow
@CarthaginianCow 4 ай бұрын
‘He shouldn’t be judged harshly because he’s my pal’
@king5phenom
@king5phenom 4 ай бұрын
Manufacturing teams is the new method of big clubs to push forward look at the top 5 teams who havnt tried or considered doing what chelsea has been doing
@Wulfryk
@Wulfryk 4 ай бұрын
The real reason for me is apathy. i have completely tuned out in terms of following Chelsea. i cant be bothered right now, there is nothing but misery on that pitch. ill look around the corner again when there is some semblence of a cohesive well thought out project/plan
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum 4 ай бұрын
Building for the future doesn't mean we should be tortured in the mean time. We're hopeless. Poch is hiding behind stats. The only two stats I care about are goals and wins. Struggling to get one over on Preston North End was not on my wish list. It's about time he improved something and showed it to us, because I'm not seeing it.
@effkay3691
@effkay3691 4 ай бұрын
Actually that’s exactly what a rebuild is. Short term gain for long term success. Otherwise it’s not a rebuild
@JRK2669
@JRK2669 4 ай бұрын
Yes, you can be good now and good in the future. This idea that you need to suffer in the short term to gain in the long term is complete nonsense
@ricroy932
@ricroy932 4 ай бұрын
the only stat thats protecting him is the injury list chelsea has Reece, chillwell,Nkunku are really big miss for chelsea these player have the caliber to change the match result with their presence
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
Fake fan
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum 4 ай бұрын
Of course, because fans don't care about being entertained, and winning. Real fans enjoy losing. @@fredjenner
@directorme6669
@directorme6669 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 So with that ETH analogy, is Murphy saying he's going yo criticize Chelsea a lot more next season? Lies!!!
@SebulReath
@SebulReath 4 ай бұрын
The sky six dominating the league and the headlines. Seems to be coming to its conclusive end. Other clubs are becoming savvy and buy players wisely with owners who have longterm plans with good managers and supporters on side.
@SebulReath
@SebulReath 4 ай бұрын
Interesting not.
@jackknipe8815
@jackknipe8815 4 ай бұрын
- Ten Hag has had more time?! He's had ONE FULL SEASON at the helm and managed to get Man Utd their first trophy in 6 years. - Chelsea have signed non established players with high potential? Man Utd have had a similar approach with their signings, Antony and Martinez are still young and were never prem proven and the likes of Hojlund, Garnacho, Mejbri, Gore, Maino, Amad, and a few other young players have played prominent roles this year due to mass injuries. They're a bunch of biased hypocrites with a nonsensical agenda against United.
@user-bw9wz1jd9l
@user-bw9wz1jd9l 4 ай бұрын
Man U always overhype there own players first Anthony then Mount next will be Maino
@gusnas7297
@gusnas7297 4 ай бұрын
Facts ❤
@Masterful100
@Masterful100 4 ай бұрын
Poch deserves more criticism than he's getting but united and Chelsea are different situations. Chelsea literally signed a whole new squad and got rid of almost all their experience. United still have players like fernandes, casemiro, varane, rashford, sancho etc. And ten haag can't get a tune out of them or get them playing good football.
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
What a load of nonsense like man utd haven't been one of if not the richest club in English football for decades before. Money doesn't buy trophies as we can see this season and Chelsea is literally hammered non stop in the media every day by ex Liverpool/Man Utd players who are all now 'pundits' even if they win 4-0
@jdogg448
@jdogg448 4 ай бұрын
Man U and Liverpool both bought trophies for decades before Chelsea did. It's just their glory supporting young fans don't remember that happening all that time ago.
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
@@jdogg448 they actually believe their own botted comments sections
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
@@jdogg448 If you so much as breathe too loudly at chelsea 700 ex Liverpool and Utd players come out in the media talking about why it's a crisis and the fans need to hate that person.
@NinpoUK
@NinpoUK 4 ай бұрын
So what if Chelsea fans went and watched their side lose 1-0? Chelsea didn't have a god given right to just turn up at the Riverside and come away with a win, that's incredibly disrespectful to Boro, they're a Championship side of professionals not some non league pub team.
@karnahedgehog1487
@karnahedgehog1487 4 ай бұрын
As a boro fan, we hate Chelsea. So glad we could cause all the bad press they are now getting. UTB ❤
@Himannv
@Himannv 4 ай бұрын
But is it really bad press? Even in this show we see Poch being defended by both fans and media and asking for time, while also expecting an optimistic end of the season. If you beat Man Utd, they'd be getting ripped apart here, which is the question at hand.
@user-bw9wz1jd9l
@user-bw9wz1jd9l 4 ай бұрын
Haha so sad you are going home in second league
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
Media hates us already mate you're not that relevant. Remember you gotta come to Stamford Bridge for second half and you just kicked the hornets nest.
@vincentkavanagh4353
@vincentkavanagh4353 4 ай бұрын
them cup finals defeats we inflicted on you still hurt i see 😂
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
You're not that relevant mate everyone hates us cause they've all been dominated for 2 decades
@abbeauL
@abbeauL 4 ай бұрын
As a Chelsea fan idgaf how 'big' we are compared to teams like Utd., those conversations are so irrelevant. We've won everything there is to win.
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
💙 Internet thinks they can revise history with comments
@hatibumohamedi1593
@hatibumohamedi1593 4 ай бұрын
@@Sinbad-cd6ohthis is substandard argument I don’t know what’s your age but would you condemn a young fun who was 8 or 7 yrs old saw they club on the higher then went to support the team as the plastic fan?? Or are we written off those funs who are on the middle 20/to early.. to early 30s plastic fanbase!! Listen you guys are on the bubble if you traveling through different countries in the world most of these kids are supporting man city, you see them wore halland and Kevin de bruyne kit These are future fans and reality is as Man U is bigger but the new current fanbase they’re supporting man city and wait until 10 yrs if Man U continue to be these mid and you’ll continue to be salty and call plastic fan.
@abbeauL
@abbeauL 4 ай бұрын
​@@Sinbad-cd6oh chelsea was already in the family I learnt it from my grandfather, so yeah I would have always been a fan.
@abbeauL
@abbeauL 4 ай бұрын
@@Sinbad-cd6oh it's also not arrogance it's the opposite, I don't care how 'big' Chelsea is - whatever it means to be a big club. I was saying I am proud of everything we have won; and how many fans or how celebrated we are in the media is irrelevant to me. I don't care if nobody praises or cares about us because I am happy with what we are. Because everybody who is Chelsea gets it and that's all that matters.
@ItsAv3rageGamer
@ItsAv3rageGamer 4 ай бұрын
Funny. I don't remember people saying Arteta needed time when he signed a team full of youngsters.
@jamescorlett5272
@jamescorlett5272 4 ай бұрын
I seen Aretita in a Manchester jumble sale £ 2 25 p Are u havin a laugh 🤣
@djharto4917
@djharto4917 4 ай бұрын
Yeah he’s a real genius. I wish I could sit next to pep for half a season and land a 6 million a year job
@MrChipz900
@MrChipz900 4 ай бұрын
@@djharto4917 Ten Hag worked for Pep and then managed Ajax…what’s the difference? 😂
@lloydsmith3907
@lloydsmith3907 4 ай бұрын
Arsenal fans always trying to be part of the conversation
@thelmaviaduct
@thelmaviaduct 4 ай бұрын
Our Tatas 🥔🍆🥔 has spent hundreds of millions 🤣😂🤣😂
@ArchefluxxMusic
@ArchefluxxMusic 4 ай бұрын
Worth pointing out that some of the best players in La Liga this season all played for Chelsea in 2022. Rudiger. Arrizabalaga, Christiansen, Alonso ...
@andypandy4607
@andypandy4607 4 ай бұрын
Load of nonsense. Only rudiger is any good
@Masterful100
@Masterful100 4 ай бұрын
Haha alonso doesn't even play. Kepa and christiansen been average.
@manzinin1070
@manzinin1070 4 ай бұрын
​@@andypandy4607Christensen is very good when fit
@x_MVP
@x_MVP 4 ай бұрын
Kepa doesn’t even start 😂
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 4 ай бұрын
As a Chelsea fan I can comfortably say United are a far bigger club than we are, it’s a fact so when they are in a mire of course more focus will be on them. We weren’t a relegation fighting team when Abramovich bought us, we had been hovering around top 4/6 in the years leading up to that and won a few FA Cups. Of course we wouldn’t have won 5 PLs and 4 European trophies without Abramovich so of course that success wasn’t natural. I for one have accepted that we have had our time at the top and for a good while we aren’t going to be challenging for the title. But let’s be honest neither will United and arsenal are bridesmaids. Keep Poch and let him nurture this young squad over a 2/3 year period.
@commentator88
@commentator88 4 ай бұрын
Which clubs are not manufactured? How would you describe United and Liverpool the
@mikep83
@mikep83 4 ай бұрын
My problem is you never talk about the issues we really have which is no game plan, playing players out of position like Colwill at LB, Enzo has dropped off a cliff because he’s played out of position. He has no plan A let alone a plan B
@rossgordon235
@rossgordon235 4 ай бұрын
i think danny forgot about champo winning thiago silva and numerous PL title winner raheem sterling when he talks about chelseas team🤣
@roytheboy1963
@roytheboy1963 4 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan talking Mauricio Pochettino down as a manager over his CV etc, shows how little he really knows, what management is all about. I remember watching some games at the lane the 1st season when Poch arrived at Spurs from Southampton, it wasn't great, he had inherited a load of duff players off the back of Bales deal to Real Madrid, it took the best part of that season to off load & invest in new talent before he turned Spurs from a team in & around 10th to 12th & always underachieving, to a team over the next 4 seasons who were regular's in the top 4, nearly won the league but were pipped at the death by Leicester to a Champions league final. I call that success , it isn't always about what trophies you win!
@Masterful100
@Masterful100 4 ай бұрын
He did wonders, I agree. But the mid table days of 10th and 12th had ended quite a few years before he joined. We were already a top 6 regular when poch joined and had been in the UCL a few times
@nilerobinson1790
@nilerobinson1790 4 ай бұрын
Not been done b4 erm class of 92 at United came thro n won the league that best example I can think of
@MUZZER81
@MUZZER81 4 ай бұрын
THE BEST THING SIMON JORDAN HAS SAID "chelsea are a manufactured club like man city" thats why the fans are shite for both teams.
@cousinjoseph360
@cousinjoseph360 4 ай бұрын
The bias from these guys is insane 😂😂😂😂😂
@jjfreer
@jjfreer 4 ай бұрын
how many regular starters were at villa before emery came in... and look at what hes doing, no excuse for potch that these players were there before he arrived!
@usernameheda
@usernameheda 4 ай бұрын
chelsea haven't won a prem in 7 years ? when did utd, arsenal, tottenham last win a prem ?
@Boy10Dio
@Boy10Dio 4 ай бұрын
was all done with oil money, the world doesn't care. same thing gonna happen when city get 115'd. no one gonna care about them when they are gone.
@hrs1414
@hrs1414 4 ай бұрын
They have decades of success. Chelsea has 2
@usernameheda
@usernameheda 4 ай бұрын
@@hrs1414 2 also is defined as 'decades'. Decade + decade = decades.
@overcorpse
@overcorpse 4 ай бұрын
@@usernameheda But not over a century of success., Chelsea "decades" of success came with Russian financial doping,
@effkay3691
@effkay3691 4 ай бұрын
@@hrs1414so did Sunderland 100 years ago
@bluecarefreeforever
@bluecarefreeforever 4 ай бұрын
I question the comments 1) ‘we are under the radar…’ and 2) ‘we are a manufactured club…’ 1) Any real Chelsea fans at the end of SB and away game fans are going mad about Poch’s tactics and using players out of position. Many fans are toxic about Boehly and the project and many want Poch removed. (I don’t because he is the right coach for young players) 2) Manufactured? Anyone following our history should understand we are far from manufactured. Looking from 70’s 80’s 90’s with redevelopment of the stands, toxic Mears and Marler period, nearly bankrupt several times, Bates £1 buy, CPO fan buy, then mid 95 to 2003 PL improving positions and europe and domestic cup success shows we were not manufactured and struggled and fighter to get to that level in 2003. Yes Chelsea then got Roman as new owner. Yes he transformed our finances and success beyond a level we had not seen before BUT before that following Deloitte’s yearly reports shows Chelsea were Already ranked within the top 10 clubs in Europe AND in 97/98 we were 4th ranked in Europe because of our cup success. With Roman we then went through 20 years of unprecedented success and now we have more rich owners but is it manufactured that we went through the hell of sanctions and a period of destabilisation? Many of our fans for months thought we might be removed from the league!! Carefree all. 🔵
@LeeTAZ-sl7de
@LeeTAZ-sl7de 4 ай бұрын
Cant talk about Chelsea without mentioning united. If you spend 1 bilion in 12 months you should be scrutinised. Why should poch get away with it? They spent 170 mil on 2 midfielders while he was manager.
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
Schizo
@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh
@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh 4 ай бұрын
Simon is right I don’t see that many Chelsea fans nowadays either
@malcolmodoy2651
@malcolmodoy2651 4 ай бұрын
By this logic, no other Football club should ever spend money. There are clubs who just have the right to succeed apparently
@RSSP2000
@RSSP2000 4 ай бұрын
Nope. Some clubs grow over time while others get bought by states/oligarchs and transform over night
@user-bw9wz1jd9l
@user-bw9wz1jd9l 4 ай бұрын
​@@RSSP2000Just admit every Man U fan would prefer Roman over Glazers Lol
@Kojo558
@Kojo558 4 ай бұрын
@@RSSP2000 can you tell me which clubs have broken into the top 6 consistently and won trophies by growing “ organically “ post ffp.
@zm_headhunter
@zm_headhunter 4 ай бұрын
Exactly it's totally nonsense.. like arsenal when they were winning they were spending three quids a year....these people are sponge heads
@dandanlovesdisblock
@dandanlovesdisblock 4 ай бұрын
My Take....and this is why I did'nt celebrate against Preston. Poch - why did you change the front line from when you played against Preston. 1). Why change the front line - No Jackson 2). Allow Broja to be your 9 3). This is a big game for Chelsea - you come and change the line up. 4) Enzo played good against Preston, not just because it was Preston but because he is playing with one DM - Caicedo. 5) You sit down, and not stand up not ushering the players to press the players. Look @ Guardiola - how often he stands up - urging the players on. 6) What was Palmer doing the night before the game, how can he miss that. Middlesborough were like a champions league side. Poch should have brought Palmer back as a number 10. 7) Thiago didnt get much work - it was easy for the defence but the attack was toothless, so what was your plan, switch players but not tactics? 8) Gallagher was too stiff. This transfer saga has affected his game for sure. Make him a sign contract and ensure his future is settled so he can focus on his game. 9) Poch underrated Middlesbrough so the next game, Chelsea will be ready. The fans will be ready. Now Chelsea has to kill Middlesbrough and stress themselves to do so. 2 goals without reply against Borough. 10) Worse performance of the season but we move. We will win and get the result we need. 11) Poch, keep doing what you are doing. You only have 18 months contract. Less now, my bro, based on your work @ Tottenham we have faith in you but it is waning and people are calling for your head.
@sufamidan1006
@sufamidan1006 4 ай бұрын
Same reason people are blowing up the Bruno “dive” in a nothing game in which United absolutely dominated Wigan but fail to acknowledge the countless genuine injustices that happen to United.
@Bluezulu85
@Bluezulu85 4 ай бұрын
Simon's take on what's a manufacturered club and what isn't is stupid,all of the successful clubs are manufacturered,Liverpool owned by the Moores family who ran the pools,before that not half as successful, United floated on the stock market , before that a cup team .Arsenal Bank of England club that through corruption had Spurs relegated and never earn their place I the top flight of English football.
@Ricardo-ur5os
@Ricardo-ur5os 4 ай бұрын
Hmm no, United and liverpool earned their money and reputation through winning. Chelsea and city bought their titles
@StephenTetlow-qm9of
@StephenTetlow-qm9of 4 ай бұрын
Chelsea and City are only where they are because when they were bought by billionaires there were no FFP rules and they could spend as much as they wanted to. If not for FFP Newcastle would now be doing the same thing.
@bornin1948
@bornin1948 4 ай бұрын
Last night Chelsea had a bad result not a so much a bad game. And Middlesbrough played very well.
@michaelmckie9164
@michaelmckie9164 4 ай бұрын
Are Liverpool manufactured? Their success was due to a rich benefactor in the 70/80s. They were spending huge sums at the time when they were a Div 2 side. All successful clubs have had wealthy benefactors for a period of time.
@HdHd-hp6qz
@HdHd-hp6qz 4 ай бұрын
Liverpool a worldwide brand not a manufactured club.
@superwario2741
@superwario2741 4 ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics they're doing to protect Poch. Him and Chelsea have been woeful. Poch and Chelsea deserve MORE scurtiny than United.
@minatodroger7890
@minatodroger7890 4 ай бұрын
Fully atleast united is ahead of them
@christophermackinnon2724
@christophermackinnon2724 4 ай бұрын
us are a manufactured club weve got about 5 academy players playing for us , garnach, scott, rashford , coby , evans
@Boy10Dio
@Boy10Dio 4 ай бұрын
poch is escaping scrutiny either because clearlake can't afford to sack him and pass ffp, or because chelsea are a club the rest of the world doesn't care about. chelsea fans can care all they want.
@user-pp8ju2dy3f
@user-pp8ju2dy3f 4 ай бұрын
Clearlake can afford it mate.....do you know anything about American Private Equity and Capitalist Companies ? They could buy up all the UK banking systems at a stroke !!
@PorkChopExpress86
@PorkChopExpress86 4 ай бұрын
This started about Chelsea, and within 2 minutes it's about man united. 8th in the league, out of Europe, complete circus off the pitch. Man city, granted have 115 charges, but they're a winning machine on the pitch. Jordan's right. Nobody cares. United and Liverpool are on every single day, even when they haven't played . The 2 biggest clubs and it's not even close
@godzilla400
@godzilla400 4 ай бұрын
No it's because intelligent people can see there are understandable reasons why Chelsea are struggling like new owners, squad, manager etc but there are no excuses for ten hag.
@raletti75
@raletti75 4 ай бұрын
As a Man Utd supporter i don't understand these pundits, who don't support the club, care so much. Or, why anone would care what they thin.
@sie4431
@sie4431 4 ай бұрын
By manufactured I think Simon means small
@hustleup3840
@hustleup3840 4 ай бұрын
Poch has had massive pay offs and doesn’t have the hunger anymore
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps.....but Mourhinio has had 5 massive pay-offs and gives the impression of caring just as much today as 20 years ago.
@franknsereko3711
@franknsereko3711 4 ай бұрын
@@rjw4762that’s what makes him the special one thru experience same can’t be said with poch and I’ve never rated him so I am just used to this right now better than potter and lamps I guess but I am still suffering mentally lol
@user-bw9wz1jd9l
@user-bw9wz1jd9l 4 ай бұрын
​@@franknsereko3711Currently Mou has fallen of and Poch could become a greater manager
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 4 ай бұрын
Not a Chelsea fan myself - but I liked Chelsea more when Jose was Manager ! They were a match made in heaven....ultra ambitious club and ultra-ambitious Manager. As for Poch - not sure quite what he has acheived to be considered 'elite' - but he seems to be a nice guy. @@franknsereko3711
@daimonj3691
@daimonj3691 4 ай бұрын
1B spent in 12 months and you're 10th in the PL, Liverpool rebuilt their entire midfield for 120M and are 1st in the PL and still in all the cups
@user-pp8ju2dy3f
@user-pp8ju2dy3f 4 ай бұрын
Are you a professional accountant then ? Get in the bin !!
@daimonj3691
@daimonj3691 4 ай бұрын
@@user-pp8ju2dy3f Cry more , your club spent 1B , you've gone worse under Poch than what you were under Potter or Tuchel and youre in 10th lol 1B spent and you can't even make the Conference league
@bornin1948
@bornin1948 4 ай бұрын
Palmer turned into Jackson last night. Can’t blame Poch for players missing chances.
@patthebaker3575
@patthebaker3575 4 ай бұрын
i think Simon is great but saying Chelsea are the same as man City is a lazy comment. City's history is miles ahead of Chelsea.
@inotv7339
@inotv7339 4 ай бұрын
If u think ETH have been there longer also pochettino have been in the epl longer ,,he should be doing well but its just all yall are hypocrites and dont want united do any better .. cos pochettino has more experience in England and all the spending he has made you still here making excuses for him 🙄
@dstewusa7054
@dstewusa7054 4 ай бұрын
I think the term “plastic” comes about from a club or project trying to be successful VERY QUICKLY with a lot of money
@cboss9576
@cboss9576 4 ай бұрын
Did danny forget Raheem Sterling is a footballer ?
@lourencooliva7429
@lourencooliva7429 4 ай бұрын
Enzo actually was 6 months at Benfica
@HunterGreeny
@HunterGreeny 4 ай бұрын
The media have gone very easy on Poch.
@peace4peaceful
@peace4peaceful 4 ай бұрын
Who are the players Poch improved at Spurs? Harry Winks, Eric Dier, KWP.. Who..Dele...destroyed him. Left Spurs 14th with an amazingly depressed team.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 4 ай бұрын
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
@worthalook4870
@worthalook4870 4 ай бұрын
United are a massive club even after ten years of winning basically not much at all. Globally United are still top 3 along with Madrid and Barca. Chelsea ain’t on United’s level
@ste4392
@ste4392 4 ай бұрын
Danny Murphy is so desperate to back Poch, I don't know why
@nickoforesta5788
@nickoforesta5788 4 ай бұрын
Cole Palmer came to Chelsea because he wanted to be the man. If you're going to be the top man, you have to score when given clear chances like he had yesterday.
@mikeandtanjagoodall4981
@mikeandtanjagoodall4981 4 ай бұрын
Fair play mate, I know when I'm beaten
@toadoftruth
@toadoftruth 4 ай бұрын
Danny Murphy said Enzo Fernandez is six years younger than Alexis Mac Allister 😂 Enzo will be 23 in a few days, Mac Allister has just turned 25
@jasonhutchinson8060
@jasonhutchinson8060 4 ай бұрын
Manchester Shitty. Chelsea. PSG. None of them have respect or prestige, for the very reasons Simon mentioned. Manufactured history is not prestigious, and new money is not respected.
@Rain.and.petals
@Rain.and.petals 4 ай бұрын
we have so many injuries for goodness sakes, not entirely ten hags fault. i trust him and believe he is the perfect man for the job.
@gregfox8132
@gregfox8132 4 ай бұрын
Come on Danny, don't let Simon get away with his snide putting you down remarks, give it back.
@Andysw6
@Andysw6 4 ай бұрын
First team football is no place for developing young players and therein lies the problem.
@emmanuelk.tambwe2628
@emmanuelk.tambwe2628 4 ай бұрын
They are not bad but they dont have consistency
@gajogrande
@gajogrande 4 ай бұрын
Is it time to get Mourinho back yet? If things go wrong English media can just blame him instead, just think how much pressure would be off the actual team.
@Rain.and.petals
@Rain.and.petals 4 ай бұрын
chelsea played 76 games this season with 31 losses,......United player 91 games with 26 losses, yet all the news talks about ten hag, its just bias tbh
@YouShouldTravelWell
@YouShouldTravelWell 4 ай бұрын
the fact is, the media like Poch, thats why he is getting away with it, they don't like Arteta or Ten Hag thats why they get criticism
@paulmorris7726
@paulmorris7726 4 ай бұрын
Let's have it right...because utd are the most talked about, out of any club regardless of success or failure. They are the most supported and most hated and the media tell its journalists to explore more on man utd!
@davidclarke6718
@davidclarke6718 4 ай бұрын
Every football club is manufactured 😂 last week Simon said utd shouldn't be getting the attention they are receiving because they are underachieving.
@Will-cg9br
@Will-cg9br 4 ай бұрын
People will laugh but this is why Tottenham are bigger than both chelsea and city, they’ve overtaken them recently but all their success is artificial. There’s a huge asterisk next to everything they do
@BridgeStamford
@BridgeStamford 4 ай бұрын
Spurs have a billionaire owner too. So because he spends less money it’s more real? 😂😂😂😂😂
@ps12220
@ps12220 4 ай бұрын
How can he be skipping through that £400 million comment like it’s nothing, if ten hag spent that in one season it’s game over with these results
@Hawkins123
@Hawkins123 4 ай бұрын
Poch is going to be given time cause ten Haag didn’t come into 30 new players who all speak different languages all settling in and most getting used to living in a new country
@PickleRiiiiick
@PickleRiiiiick 4 ай бұрын
You could provide just a much scrutiny to Chelsea as you do United, makes no difference if one is bigger than the other, just media bias
@mnb9162
@mnb9162 4 ай бұрын
220 million on a centre midfield pairing and you get a free year to 'settle"... Mental
@nicksampson538
@nicksampson538 4 ай бұрын
funny how Ange hasnt needed all this "time" to change spurs from an anti-football team to a team you love to watch
@Hawkins123
@Hawkins123 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t know spurs brought in 30 new players all speaking different languages and settling into a new country? Never spoke to one another all still young aswell, completely different situation
@daveweller9550
@daveweller9550 4 ай бұрын
@@Hawkins123that’s right! Ange has had it handed to him on a plate, squad chockers full of players that play exactly the way he wanted them to and arguably the best players in the league, thank goodness he moved that old striker they had on the books over to Germany as he would just have been a liability.
@richy6595
@richy6595 4 ай бұрын
Spot on Simon Jordan. Chelsea to me have always felt like a weird case. They are arguably not even the 2nd biggest club in London. Incredible success but they don’t hold the same weight as United, Liverpool, Arsenal
@couturecriminal8330
@couturecriminal8330 4 ай бұрын
Arguably not even the 2nd biggest club in London then who is because they are definitely as big as Arsenal...
@andrewcunningham5359
@andrewcunningham5359 4 ай бұрын
12 injuries, same as boro last night, then 2 further players injured, including our only main striker, viburnum came on, but very young and not to the level yet, but good prospect
@savitar4325
@savitar4325 4 ай бұрын
I like when Simon calls out Danny murphy for his Biased.
@michaelbooth2333
@michaelbooth2333 4 ай бұрын
Chelsea have been scrutinised and slaged off by all the other team's supporters and the media when we were winning everything for buying success and Jordan comes out with it on here every team has to spend money to get trophies something he couldn't do with Palace and his mate Levy hasn't done with Tottenham. The trouble is we've had to much instant success when Abramovich owned us its not sustainable to keep hiring and firing Pochettino has to be given time he will do good if you sack him and still pay him millions in severance pay who will want to come to Chelsea think they might be sacked in three months.
@garyjohnson3751
@garyjohnson3751 4 ай бұрын
Chelsea fans make me laugh their total lack of any real footballing knowledge and no real understanding of what a proper club really is
@destianpatrianagara1119
@destianpatrianagara1119 4 ай бұрын
3:36 And what if they never do? We've seen young players with huge wages having bad attitude and poor work ethics. What happens when those investments don't come to fruition?
@big3genna737
@big3genna737 4 ай бұрын
Is Danny really serious about Poch is the right manager
@BridgeStamford
@BridgeStamford 4 ай бұрын
We keep giving Poch time and we keep losing games!! Not a single player has improved and the tactics are non existent. How this guy keeps getting a free pass is unbelievable
@fredjenner
@fredjenner 4 ай бұрын
Fraud fan
@BridgeStamford
@BridgeStamford 4 ай бұрын
@@fredjenner 🙌🙌🙌
@kensimmo
@kensimmo 4 ай бұрын
Why is it a problem when Chelsea and Man City spend hundreds of millions but not ManU
@_l0wkey_4
@_l0wkey_4 4 ай бұрын
"Jealousy"
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 4 ай бұрын
Poch is overrated A F
@mutondukalota6098
@mutondukalota6098 4 ай бұрын
Uncle Chael is still salty about being wrong on Francis's post UFC prospects.
@JuanCarlosOmar1
@JuanCarlosOmar1 4 ай бұрын
Before they started cheating in 1995 chelsea had won 4 trophies in its 90 year history. 30 of those years weren’t even in the top division. Their average top flight league position from the other 60 years was 13th.
@adb8411
@adb8411 4 ай бұрын
More than a lot of other clubs
@user-pp8ju2dy3f
@user-pp8ju2dy3f 4 ай бұрын
1995 is a long time ago in Football terms.....plus were you still in nappies then ?
@JP-es1nb
@JP-es1nb 4 ай бұрын
Chelsea will be trying to push 90% of the players they signed as ‘potential’ out the door in a few years time when they realise the majority of player never reach their potential. Think of all the players that could of been 😂 add in no playing time, disillusioned minds, manger changing all the time, These players have even less of a chance. But don’t worry they are on 7 year contracts so plenty of years to find out. Good luck selling 50mil-100mil players without a loss
@JeffWhelpley
@JeffWhelpley 4 ай бұрын
I know it's fun to poke at Chelsea, but to give Boehly credit, those long contracts are with relatively low salaries. That will actually make selling the players (if needed) MUCH easier than the previous generation of "dead wood". Also, you don't need to sell for what they bought for. They just need to sell above the amortized value of the player. So, for example, selling Caicedo in 3 years for 60m would still break even. ALSO, they have a number of good sellable assets at relatively low purchase prices like Angelo. Basically...Chelsea definitely have a ton of issues, but financially they are actually fine. They can easily sell what is needed to balance the books. The real issues are more about getting wins.
@triaz5124
@triaz5124 4 ай бұрын
conceeding the same kind of goal over and over again and no pattern of play...yup...give Poch more time...good grief.
@jacobfield4848
@jacobfield4848 4 ай бұрын
Hag has spent more money. Poch inherited his team.
@effkay3691
@effkay3691 4 ай бұрын
United are a listed club in the NYSE. Now that’s pretty manufactured….i mean anyone can buy them!
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