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Singaporean Formidable Class VS Turkish Istanbul Class Frigates

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Singaporean Formidable Class VS Turkish Istanbul Class Frigates
This video you will see a comparison Between two multirole stealth frigates, one is Formidable multirole stealth frigates and another one is Istanbul class Frigates
Formidable Class frigates is made by France/Singapore and Istanbul Class Frigates is made by Turkey
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@Simon-mc3sq
@Simon-mc3sq 3 жыл бұрын
Turkish ship uses less power and fuel to achieve greater distance and speed. Also the Turkish ship is built to NATO standards whereas Singaporean ship isn't. Add to this the fact that Pakistan and Ukraine have already purchased variants of the Turkish ships with several other countries on a waiting list as well as some countries already well into feasibility studies and some even at the assessment stage for the Turkish ship. The Singaporean ship is no slouch, it is very capable, but for the region Turkey is in, the Turkish is ship is definitely the superior design. One last thing, the Turkish ship outguns the Singaporean ship and it also uses very capable Turkish designed and made weapons. Singapore will have to rely on imports from other nations for parts weapons etc, during times of war, situations such as this will see the Singaporean ship fail in the mid to long term
@lockheed
@lockheed 3 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
Your always explain exactly! ❤️
@borakara
@borakara 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, you made a good assessment
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
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@CemilPars
@CemilPars 3 жыл бұрын
aferin la simon
@subsandfan409
@subsandfan409 3 жыл бұрын
ISTANBUL CLASS FRIGATE IS BEST FROM BANGLADESH 🇧🇩
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
Very soon, Bangladesh will be owner of Istanbul class frigates
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
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@tuncaybey8763
@tuncaybey8763 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewblackmatter6669 in english, nobody knows what you say
@extremelycreativeusername
@extremelycreativeusername 2 жыл бұрын
Two ships built a couple decades apart, serving two very different nations and very different docterines. They are not on par with each other
@Komi43995
@Komi43995 3 жыл бұрын
Sedef tersane !! Turkish!! İs the best
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
💪
@user-ce3sx8lk4d
@user-ce3sx8lk4d 3 ай бұрын
Shut up Singapore has the better one
@erictanpk
@erictanpk 2 жыл бұрын
Essential comparing a 20 year old design (formidable) with a more contemporary one (Istanbul), hence the newer would benefit of from tech advancements
@tankee1981ify
@tankee1981ify 2 жыл бұрын
Formidable class is in service for almost 20 years. Is it reasonable to compare it with a much newer design?
@missshila7661
@missshila7661 3 жыл бұрын
Turkey weapons, design, technology as well and high tack future
@kirkloren8686
@kirkloren8686 3 жыл бұрын
Istanbul 👍
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
💪
@baybarshan2500
@baybarshan2500 2 жыл бұрын
Istanbul class frigate sets new standards for Frigates. Now you can start making comparisons for the TF-2000 class destroyer as the tender for the destroyer has been submitted to Istanbul Shipyards.
@Kalle56
@Kalle56 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks to the alleged partners of Turkey for their sanctions, the development of their own weapons helped I don't think any other country would have managed to develop so many functioning high-tech weapons with thousands of sanctions. You have to imagine what Turkey has achieved in the last 20 years.
@H2oRiz
@H2oRiz Жыл бұрын
No mention of on board sensors or AESA radar capabilities. Guess that's not important. 😎
@reco3406
@reco3406 3 жыл бұрын
Güçleri birleştirin en iyisi çıksın ortaya
@mustafakarakas9813
@mustafakarakas9813 3 жыл бұрын
Ötekisi teknoloji transferi fransa ile biz anlaşamayız
@IsimsiZ-ek6zb
@IsimsiZ-ek6zb 2 жыл бұрын
@@mustafakarakas9813 Evet Ayrıca 2 sinin birleşiminden bile daha iyi bir projemiz var
@negunduznegece7081
@negunduznegece7081 3 жыл бұрын
❤ istanbul ❤
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
💪
@anartaylan
@anartaylan 17 күн бұрын
I think it's not okay to compare 20 years old ship design to almost brand new one. Turkiye's build ship is with latest technologies and uses almost all indigenous systems and weapons.
@guntertrolenberg5818
@guntertrolenberg5818 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the 76mm naval artillery gun by MKEK on I class
@m.a.kozelkuvvetler1612
@m.a.kozelkuvvetler1612 3 жыл бұрын
Istanbul class frigates, 12 of which will be produced for the Turkish navy, except for these, 8 destroyers of the stacker class have started to be produced.
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
Dont mix opium with kaptagon merda you see .... You have iluzion . Sory you are victimes of turkis helples propaganda .HARAM PARA
@m.a.kozelkuvvetler1612
@m.a.kozelkuvvetler1612 3 жыл бұрын
stupid man Turkey doesn't need propaganda. The corvettes we produce that will produce sufficient numbers of turkey istanbul class frigates and i class destroyers have been delivered to the Turkish donon machine. We also produce corvettes for the pakistan and ukrainian navies. After TCG Anadolu ship, TCG Trakya and Turkish type aircraft carrier will be produced. You look like a stupid man, you should research the point of the Turkish defense industry I would recommend
@muhammadsabirin6947
@muhammadsabirin6947 3 жыл бұрын
Bagus sekali turki dan singapura
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@ugurkazgani6072
@ugurkazgani6072 3 жыл бұрын
ZAHA vs AAV-P7/A1 ?
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@safeerkhan7414
@safeerkhan7414 3 жыл бұрын
Good turkey 💖
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@korkutuk2584
@korkutuk2584 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently Istanbul class is better.
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
💪
@sarfarajahmed6693
@sarfarajahmed6693 3 жыл бұрын
If I not wrong then Istanbul class is sold to pakistan and they named jinnah class
@sarfarajahmed6693
@sarfarajahmed6693 3 жыл бұрын
@Infinity Devil ooo 😅😅 by mistake sorry
@mr.blueland478
@mr.blueland478 3 жыл бұрын
@Infinity DevilIt's a class different from the ada class, but it's not an i=stif class either. between the ada and the i=stif class.
@mrttrm9504
@mrttrm9504 3 жыл бұрын
🇸🇬🙏🏻🇹🇷
@limebob2402
@limebob2402 3 жыл бұрын
Why compare a newly made ship to one that is nearing 20 years old?
@Ariez05
@Ariez05 2 жыл бұрын
Content
@erdemdemir4524
@erdemdemir4524 3 жыл бұрын
İSTANBUL CLASS
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
Istigball like LIDL ALDI PLUS TESCO SUPER MARKET IS (ΣΤΗΝ )POLY ΣΤΗΝ ΠΟΛΗ ΚΟΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥΠΟΛΗ ΙΣ ΤΗΝ ΠΟΛΗ KOSTANDINOPLE
@tuncaybey8763
@tuncaybey8763 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewblackmatter6669 poor greek try to learn english
@mns4
@mns4 3 жыл бұрын
In the picture i am able to see sonar on turkish frigate where as on singaporean its not available 🤔
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
Not REAL SONAR MAKET PROPLASMA FOR RECLAMA
@bozkurt6236
@bozkurt6236 3 жыл бұрын
Turkish ship has sonar
@danielc2701
@danielc2701 Жыл бұрын
Singapore does not use hull mounted sonar, their area of the sea makes hull mounted sonar less effective. In deep ocean, there is this thing called a thermocline where water in the ocean cools so fast that the density changes. The problem with this in terms of sonar is that sound from one side of the thermocline cannot be heard on the other side, so the sonar scanning space is split into two, one above and one below. The only way a hull mounted sonar can scan below the thermocline is if the ship goes below it and scan, which by then it won't be a ship any more but a submarine. To counter this, Singapore and many other countries use something called a "towed array", which is basically a sonar system on a cable that you can lower into the water, so they can scan below the thermocline by letting the array sink deeper and if they want to scan above the thermocline, they just pull the cable up a bit. So it's not that they don't have sonar or use an "inferior version", it's just that they use the type of sonar system that best suits their operating conditions in deep ocean.
@mns4
@mns4 Жыл бұрын
@@danielc2701 cool info after 1year👍
@danielc2701
@danielc2701 Жыл бұрын
@@mns4 Yeah it's something I found very interesting because it shows how a difference in area can cause a difference in equipment. It's like their CIWS (they don't have any), their ship was designed to work in wide open oceans where you can see anything coming at you, any fighting is done far away, so CIWS is less important but the Istanbul is designed for fighting close to shore where a hidden missile launcher can suddenly shoot at you, so it needs CIWS a lot more. This is also why they want "stealth" more, in open ocean, that little bit of radar confusing ability is important when everything is out in the open. Both ships are designed for their environment so you really can't switch them around. An Istanbul in the South China Sea, everyone will be shooting at it since it can be easily seen while a Formidable operating in the Mediterranean is at the risk of "sudden missile up the ass". Both ships really can't be compared properly, especially since the Istanbul is an assault frigate while the Formidable is an escort frigate.
@beyalbay8969
@beyalbay8969 3 жыл бұрын
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@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@CrossbredmiMiyang
@CrossbredmiMiyang 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure why the comparison between these 2 nations as they are miles apart from each other. Singapore this micro island are incapable of attacking turkey and so does the Turkish too despite the Turkish looks strong on paper. Every nation has its own security needs and depending on the neighboring country or regional hostility. Singapore Navy’s formidable class are far more superiors & capable compared with her neighboring countries . If Singapore has a big , strong and hostile neighbor country or a bigger nation like Turkey , then Singapore has no problem of upgrading their defense hardware. The best and most suitable country you should compare is your arch rival Greece’s new fleet the French and Italian’s FREEM frigate, It’s more suitable this way .
@ozansayran246
@ozansayran246 2 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me if I'm strong on paper? You turkish army has the biggest army in europe, the second biggest army in nato, the most powerful country in the middle east, you do some research.
@CrossbredmiMiyang
@CrossbredmiMiyang 2 жыл бұрын
@@ozansayran246 like you said “ strong on paper “ meaning not really tested in real crisis time except battles with some bandits . 2nd in nato and strongest and most powerful in both Europe and Middle East… I bet the frencie , brits, Italians could batter you let alone the forever low key Germans . In life and death I bet the Greek is quite a handful for you Turks to handle .
@ultimaxed8239
@ultimaxed8239 Жыл бұрын
@@ozansayran246 strong on paper is the right thing to say since Turkish Armoured assault of Leopard 2s into Syria were pitifully destroyed by rebels.
@scorpioraptor
@scorpioraptor 10 ай бұрын
@@CrossbredmiMiyang My friend, I don't think you should write confidently thinking you know everything very well. The terrorist organization you call bandits is supported by France, Greece and the USA. Some even stay in US camps. This is exactly the reason for the recent rift between the USA and Turkey. Read Robert FISK's book. If you don't believe the Turks, listen to the Americans. Look at Turkey's operations in the last 5 years. Olive Branch, Euphrates Shield, Afrin Operation, Azerbaijan-Karabakh (by Turkish staff), Libya Haftar victory, Somalia, etc. As for Greece? Weapons were purchased by Europe and if war broke out, the entire EU would say "you will find us against you!" A country he says. No one is superior to anyone else. But don't confuse us with the pink bottoms! Also, take a good look at objective sources. The ISIS terrorist organization attacked us the most and the hardest, and we killed the most ISIS members. You underestimate the secular Turkish army, even though the political Islamists in my country protect and abet some of them.
@scorpioraptor
@scorpioraptor 10 ай бұрын
@@ultimaxed8239 To call an army a paper tiger, it must not have undergone any operations. Get on the M4 highway in Syria and IRAQ and see if you can get there. 3 operations were performed. (In Syria) Please examine it. Also examine the city war called Afrin, where there are hundreds of tunnels and concrete bunkers. We entered and won on the anniversary of our Çanakkale victory! Study Haftar and the Armenian war. Then you call it a paper tiger. As a Turk, I admit that we do not have much experience in tank warfare. However, we learned good lessons. If you examine the Afrin operation carefully, you will see that they could not hit our tanks. We also now have active protection systems such as PULAT and AKKOR. We learned our lesson. Oh, by the way, those destroyed Leopards were actually left behind because they were shot in their engines. Then they shot down Turkish F-16s so that the enemy would not use them. Photos were also used as propaganda. Look, let me give my opinion by looking at the paper. You are either Greek, Armenian or Indian. Maybe you're French or a fascist northern European. :)
@Aioloss6006
@Aioloss6006 2 жыл бұрын
Singapore of course
@CemilPars
@CemilPars 3 жыл бұрын
lan gururlanmamak elde degil son deknolojik ne tank dop gemi ucak füze helicopterimiz varmis , yeminlen uzay gemisi bile vardir envnterde
@Hibrahim1
@Hibrahim1 2 жыл бұрын
Şuan savunma sanayimizde 750 proje üretiliyor daha bilmediğimiz neler neler var savunma sanayimizin büyüklüğü yıllık 77 milyar dolar sen düşün artık
@Hibrahim1
@Hibrahim1 2 жыл бұрын
Ve s400 hariç ithalat yapmıyoruz herşeyi kendimiz üretiyoruz
@CemilPars
@CemilPars 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hibrahim1 ne 77 si 77777 si sacmalama amariganya korki la bizden
@CemilPars
@CemilPars 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hibrahim1 s 400 u de biz uretik adlinda sen bakma rusyadaki turk muslumanlar uretti esas s 4oo adi ne sahabe 400 bunu kimse bilmez
@Hibrahim1
@Hibrahim1 2 жыл бұрын
@@CemilPars bende bu hıyarı adam sanıp anlatıyom
@melihkarakoyun5964
@melihkarakoyun5964 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of this song in this video
@kalkan1
@kalkan1 3 жыл бұрын
Istanbul frigates comes with all the weapons made in Turkey. Singaporean frigates depend on French supply.
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@omeraksoy166
@omeraksoy166 2 ай бұрын
El Türkiye
@panzermora902
@panzermora902 Жыл бұрын
milgem turkiye 🎉
@Ariez05
@Ariez05 2 жыл бұрын
Only if Turkey's military projects didn't have NATO standards in them. They can't go to the limits of the program because of that. Many powerful, great Turkish weapons were canceled due to NATO restrictions and standards...Even this program has NATO standards and restrictions
@miturk927
@miturk927 3 жыл бұрын
istanbul class has secret weapon and electronical war systems 🤭
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
Secret my ash 😆😅😊😁😂😃😃😄😉
@vatanperver9402
@vatanperver9402 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewblackmatter6669 go away dude.
@miturk927
@miturk927 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewblackmatter6669 if u want to fight with istanbul class , sure we can
@Ariez05
@Ariez05 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewblackmatter6669 You think Turkey pulls these weapons out of thin air? No they are all secret at first then released to the public, but there are some weapons Turkey cannot release to the public because they will all have NATO standards and restrictions on them...Look at Turkey's devil eye lazer systems tho, they use to be a secret and now its know...They still have more higher tech weapons that are being used but still in secret...
@samahmadoke8704
@samahmadoke8704 3 жыл бұрын
Formidable class is better in weapon. Especially in quantity.
@yasincsoy4352
@yasincsoy4352 3 жыл бұрын
When 16 cell mdas of roketsan gets able to launch hisar missiles in quadruple, Istanbul class will out perform it. Since french vs system has not ability to launch in quadruple
@danielc2701
@danielc2701 2 жыл бұрын
@@yasincsoy4352 Formidable can also do quadruple as well if they wanted to but they won't because that is not the designed role of the ship. The quadruple missiles are self/point defence missiles while the Formidables are designed to protect an area, so uses the bigger missiles. The Istanbuls are designed as independent close range attacking ships while the Formidables are designed as long range missile fighting escorts. Both have so different roles and area of operations that trying to compare them is not really possible. Ask an Istanbul captain to escort ships and he'll be sweating with his self defence missiles. Ask a Formidable captain to patrol the Mediterranean and he'll be sweating about surprise missile attacks up his ass (no CIWS). One is an attack ship, the other is an escort ship.
@NewmaticKe
@NewmaticKe 11 ай бұрын
Formidable class upgraded to Blue Spear
@otkancalik6397
@otkancalik6397 2 жыл бұрын
🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@terkos77
@terkos77 2 жыл бұрын
Bizimki yerli , onlarınki montaj ..
@defencelearning2785
@defencelearning2785 2 жыл бұрын
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