Sinn 104 iconic for a reason (it’s just great)

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Sinn 104 iconic for a reason (it’s just great)

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If you are on the fence about this model, don’t be. Just try it, chances are very high you will be impressed.
Also Adam is selling the black dial Sinn 104
Email me to buy crvluv@yahoo.com
$1100 fresh serviced ready to go.

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@omegaknight01 3 жыл бұрын

Sinn 104 combines the two most popular watches in the world, diving and pilot. Congratulations !!! 👍

@ytown4 5 жыл бұрын

If I had $1500 today to spend on a watch I would get the Sinn 104 Arabic black dial on the H-link. I love the size, style, and that bidirectional countdown bezel.

@lukaszjaskulski5818 3 жыл бұрын

I would get Damasko for 1.5 k

@gabemoza9569 5 жыл бұрын

Wow!!!! That service cost is insane!!50% of the value of the watch to get it services is crazy!

@tockingwatches2377 3 жыл бұрын

People’s time isn’t less expensive just because the Sinn is a relatively inexpensive watch.

@primecreator 5 жыл бұрын

Got my green one, have it on a green rubber strap. Won't be flipping this one, it's a beauty.

@gregalonzo747 5 жыл бұрын

My Sinn has the Selita. Same with my Oris. I have never had a problem with either timepiece. These days I am not as adamant about ETA.

@canadianwatchmonkey3992 3 жыл бұрын

The older Sinn 104 you have is an ICON!!!

@wiwe4741 5 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, the service costs seems way to high - on the official Sinn homepage -> it’s € 180,- (~200 bucks) for a factory revision (dismantle, clean, lubricate, assemble and adjust the movement, exchange of all technically necessary parts)renewing the sealing system (all O-rings incl. Crown, pushers only if technically necessary), water pressure test, cleaning the case, repairing the metal bracelet (if necessary and possible, no replacement of the clasp) & final check - all for $ 200,- !! IMO the screwed you 😡

@flearhcp 3 жыл бұрын

Would Damasko be easier to service?

@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 2 жыл бұрын

You don't want to know what I paid Omega to service a 20 year old Seamaster.

@EverydayWatchGuy 5 жыл бұрын

I got the white Sinn 104 with the Sellita movement and it runs like a dream :)

@AldermanFredCDavis 7 ай бұрын

Have a couple of inexpensive automatic Seiko's and Invicta's that are 12 to 15 years old. Never been serviced, and they keep perfect time. I wonder about a lot of these "luxury" items, that often do not have anywhere near the durability of the most basic of items in the same category.

@brendanosullivan771 5 жыл бұрын

Great review! You are right about the service costs. My local watch shop charges $240Cad ($180usd) to do a full service on 2824 and sw200 movements. At those prices you could just buy a new movement and have it installed haha.

@hammalamiri12 Ай бұрын

You still have to pay a watch maker to install / regulate it and you might not get a guarantee, there is a romance with servicing

@matttheoneonly6617 5 жыл бұрын

Sinn is a great company. Love my 556a

@danielpaulson3631 5 жыл бұрын

You're right - I had a vintage Tissot overhauled, including a bunch of part replacements for about the same price as that service. It's overpriced.

@xXxM4STERxXx 5 жыл бұрын

I got the green limited edition, its going to be with me forever. I hope the service prices vary!

@tobias_dahlberg 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely the best watch available in its price range.

@eyeheartsushi2212 5 жыл бұрын

My local AD provides the first Rolex service for free when you buy the watch from them. Their service fee for Rolex is just $600. The Sinn service fee is excessive.

@shipmate3577 3 жыл бұрын

Sinn's website says 240 Euros.

@Kevinycchua 5 жыл бұрын

I got a green one too, it stopped working after 2 days, completely stopped. Went back to AD for a week, problem seems to be fixed, the AD's repairman said that a screw was loose and he only tightened the screw and works again. Although the fix was quick, but I didn't expect this kind of sloppy QC from Sinn. This is my first Sinn, the experience discouraged me from getting another.

@RandomRobReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Wow. I guess it’s gonna happen here and there.

@thewatchloungechris 5 жыл бұрын

I love my sinn104 will never leave the collection

@reecemesser 3 жыл бұрын

I wear it every day, will never leave me

@jfm562 5 жыл бұрын

I have the 104 with Arabic numbers. I love the lume too!

@rayquintanilla614 5 жыл бұрын

The green dial certainly is an impactful look!

@WatchDisplay 5 жыл бұрын

Love the 104! Best watch at this price point.

@fkh3556 5 жыл бұрын

I did not like the Sinn 104 when I saw it on youtube. However, in hands it looks fantastic, 10/10.

@Gold_Stadt 4 жыл бұрын

That also happened to me. with other watches. And sometimes it's just the other way round - that's why one should always try on the desired watch, if possible.

@garystafford2220 5 жыл бұрын

Wow! 560 for service! That's a lot for a service. I wanted a Sinn 104, but I may have to look at something else if a service cost that much. I may go with the phoibus great wall at 519.00, it has the eta 2824-2 movement, 500 meter water resistant, double dome anti reflective sapphire crystal. Bezel inlay is sapphire covered. That's the price I'm looking at. (actually the one my wife says I could afford) 🙁

@scottsj4625 5 жыл бұрын

I am also looking at watches with the ETA movement 2824 for around 500.00 I hope the service is not as much as the watch, it could be though.

@jacksonk75k95 4 жыл бұрын

@@scottsj4625 it won't be. Just go to a reputable watchmaker. If course I'd ask the manufacturer for pricing and what a service consists of and compare that to a watchmaker then make a decision. But ETA movements really aren't hard to service

@michaelidarecis Жыл бұрын

Am in NY and have a swiss trained watchmaker and we are going to be doing service for watches and making custom modifications for various brands. In The NY area most of the stores don't have a good watchmaker they have hacks...

@BruceWilliams 5 жыл бұрын

400 is right on par with what mainstream brands charge for a basic ETA service. If you go private watchmaker you'll save a little but it will still likely be over 300

@UnNamedTrucker 5 жыл бұрын

The 104 would be nearly perfect if the bracelet was a touch less rattle-y and the clasp was a fully milled piece.

@VersedNJ 4 жыл бұрын

I just bought the 104 special edition $30 more. From probably the same AD as you. $1475 with sales tax. Not a bracelet fan. So just as happy. If it wasn’t for the holidays would have had it Friday. Can’t wait. The Selita movement was a slight disappointment. But not a big deal. Heard both ways with most wanting eta. As you said it isn’t their base movement. Even Oris is using them.

@wpherigo1 5 жыл бұрын

Agree! Great looking watch, and love the lumed Arabics!

@Redonepunch 5 жыл бұрын

Love my 104. I want another sinn. Thinking of either the U1 or the Oil filled UX. That watch is amazing in person.

@cardinalj 5 жыл бұрын

I have a UX SDR EZM 2B ....I.would recommend

@soundknight 4 жыл бұрын

I'm torn between this and the formex essence chrono. They are both so good. The Formex seems a little better especially with the chronometer movement SW200 vs the standard sw220-1. I think it also traverses the line between dress watch and working tool visually a bit better than the sinn. But the sinn has a great counting bezel and looks like something a P-51 Mustang pilot would wear... Tough choices, what do you think?

@hgr.7857 Жыл бұрын

Great observation about the Sinn. The 104 with indices and anthracite dial on an H-link is my next big purchase. TBH, I can't wait to spend that 1700.00 USD 💸💸💸

@a97b18b 5 жыл бұрын

I might just have to stick with seiko if service is that much. You don’t service a seiko, you just buy a new movement for less than $100!

@shashankshukla8182 5 жыл бұрын

This one would be compared to the style of service something like a GS would go for.

@TruckeeDoggo 4 жыл бұрын

I can guarantee that the servicing cost was more than the cost of the movement when it was new

@flushot6513 4 жыл бұрын

500 to service thats more than what most people would pay for a watch

@CaptCanuck4444 2 жыл бұрын

Personally I like the white dial version the best. I'd prefer a brushed or beadblasted case though.

@hgr.7857 Жыл бұрын

Yes regarding the bead-blasted case, or even a brushed case. For a GADA tool watch, polished finish is a curious choice.

@4oclockcrown882 5 жыл бұрын

Still waiting on my 104 green, I think they are coming into the county one at a time

@ryanstafford8544 5 жыл бұрын

Oh that service price. Mine has an issue with the crown not being 100% smooth at times. Was going to send it in but now I may just live with it. What to do?

@RollsRoyceSilverSpur 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this side by side video of the 104 Series. I am not into green dials but this one is cool . I think if it were EZM 10 then service cost wouldn't sound too much albeit it would still be kinda expensive but for a non chronograph movement it sounded costly to me too .

@ace-ic6kz Жыл бұрын

i have a grey one, love sinn 104, the best watch i own and i have 6000euros omegas.

@threehander 5 жыл бұрын

Was that absurd service cost from Sinn proper?

@Anditspee Ай бұрын

Am I crazy or does the Arabic dial have more glossy and the indices dial is more matte? How are these dials in real life? How deep black are they and are they more matte or glossy?

@sifu61 5 жыл бұрын

overpaid on service; love my white dial 104; nice job Rob

@TennesseeMike 5 жыл бұрын

I've been considering white dial...what Strap/Braclets did you choose?

@sifu61 5 жыл бұрын

@@TennesseeMike hey Mike, i change the strap too often. The watch looks great on anything from leather to nato to mesh. Hope you grab one. Cheers

@108mmd 2 жыл бұрын

You can get the green one without arabic numbers. Only the green with arabic numbers is limited Edition

@22Phanatic 5 жыл бұрын

Very Nice watch! Love the green dial and Arabic combination keeper for sure!

@jonoedwards4195 5 жыл бұрын

Same, an with the Black Bezel, Yes Please!

@alanchau6986 4 жыл бұрын

Damn the ficus in that camera is crazy fast

@KakashiHatake-ou7mp 5 жыл бұрын

This brand is just awesome!

@HSalamista 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Rob, great video again! Can you check if there are other bezel insert options for the Sinn 104? Like a black ceramic lumed 12 hour GMT one? Lumewise, way weaker then Seiko Lumibrite?

@triples4good 5 жыл бұрын

Very cool watch...im wearing mine as I watch this.

@mrbacchus6127 5 жыл бұрын

Beautiful everyday watch but If I get a Sinn it HAS to have the nerdy Sinn technology. Tegimented steel etc. Maybe a U1 or EZM

@vetle12 4 жыл бұрын

I NEEED THAT BLACK STRAP AND CLASP !!!! PLEASE SHARE WHERE YOU GOT IT !!!

@Gold_Stadt 4 жыл бұрын

The black strap is from Sinn. I think the clasp is, too. You can order directly from Sinn via their online shop or send them an email, if the strap isn't available on the shop yet. Take note, that there are different lengths available, too (S, M, L).

@panorama4526 4 жыл бұрын

Is it just me, or does the brushing of the lugs not fit entirely with the end links of the bracelet? Every time I see a picture of the 104 the surfaces seem to be a little bit off...

@ChrisTopher-hs8pt 4 жыл бұрын

Lumed Arabic Numerals at 06:56-Definitely cool. Thanks

@PT111111 5 жыл бұрын

I thought you said you were gonna talk about a Nikon. lol

@michalczarnowski 5 жыл бұрын

What strap and clasp is it? Great looking watches.

@watchesandcaps2566 3 жыл бұрын

The service is 200 bucks on their website.

@japd7897 5 жыл бұрын

No consumer tax (VAT)?, In Spain that invoice would be: 559 +21% = 676,39

@VersedNJ 4 жыл бұрын

I had to pay 6.625% sales tax on mine. Basically the same as VAT. Up until recently you didn’t have to pay crossing state lines. Unless they have any operations in your state.

@TennesseeMike 5 жыл бұрын

Keep coming back to this watch. I had been focussing on Omega AT for a while but don't feel it is 3 times better (based on price) then 104. I also like 556...Any thoughts on 556?

@shashankshukla8182 5 жыл бұрын

Tennessee Mike but by that logic a question will arise as to whether this is 10x better than a seiko skx ?

@theenavybluemonster 5 жыл бұрын

I have the 556i black dial on h link. One of my favorite watches. Its a strap monster. Keeper.

@TennesseeMike 5 жыл бұрын

@@shashankshukla8182 good point. My biggest challenge as a watch euthasiast with limited resources is what to buy. I have been contemplating a Grand Seiko but for the price would I be happier with a Transocean, Alipininist, and a Sarx055. Defering decisions to end of year and just doing my research and talking to fellow enthusiasts.

@TennesseeMike 5 жыл бұрын

@@theenavybluemonster I've been strongly considering the 556 special addition with red seconds hand.

@eyeheartsushi2212 5 жыл бұрын

Well at least with Omega you don’t have to worry about it for 5 years.

@swright5690 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah..that service fee is not cool. after 2 services, you have more into the watch than it is worth. I do love it though.

@bikesroget1 4 жыл бұрын

560 is almost twice what’s on the Sinn site for regular service

@strawwoodclaw 4 жыл бұрын

Can you tell me please what brand is the upgraded leather strap & deployment clap? I'd like t get one for mine.

@Gold_Stadt 4 жыл бұрын

The black strap is from Sinn. I think the clasp is, too. You can order directly from Sinn via their online shop or send them an email if the strap isn't available on the shop yet. Take note, that there are different lengths available, too.

@sdiver68 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video on the green 1. What strap is that on the black one?

@gabzy3264 5 жыл бұрын

Can anyone tell me how the 104 compares to say an oris diver 65? They have the same movement right?

@joseph_432 3 жыл бұрын

For your watch service, was that from RGM? Love the 104 - it was in my top 3 but I bought the 103.

@sl1oo 3 жыл бұрын

i had a breguet chrono serviced for less in a expensive part of the country

@garyk8285 5 жыл бұрын

Green dial Sinn 104... wow

@M3LTUP 4 жыл бұрын

My Hamilton has an ETA 2824.

@8AP1 4 жыл бұрын

standard grade ETA though, nothing to write home about

@Trex100 5 жыл бұрын

Wish an after market bracelet was available for the 104 from Strapcode or somewhere. I don’t really like either Sinn bracelet.

@RandomRobReviews 5 жыл бұрын

I have seen people put the Sinn bracelet on the alpinist, maybe can go the other way?

@Trex100 5 жыл бұрын

@@RandomRobReviews Perhaps!

@Star_Sn1per 5 жыл бұрын

That leather strap one is killer!!

@ahighhokie6793 5 жыл бұрын

What kind of strap is it?

@glenf6385 5 жыл бұрын

The strap is a Di modell chronissimo .

@tamages 3 жыл бұрын

Does the ETA second hand move tad smoother than the Sellita? I have the Sellita, it's kind of jerky.

@strawwoodclaw 4 жыл бұрын

Where can you buy them black straps with clasp I'd love one for mine

@Gold_Stadt 4 жыл бұрын

@DonutIgnoramus 5 жыл бұрын

If you’re buying in this price range you’re better off just ponying up a bit more for a used Tudor, Omega, or GS. This model, while certainly attractive, has no redeeming qualities justifying the price point. Basic ETA movement with average finishing. Just my two sense, but if you must have it then by all means enjoy!!

@funnylittleazn 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Rob, don't know if you'll see this but how do you feel the 104 compares to the Monta Triumph... Personally deciding between these two (specifically the Monta Atlas which has a similar case and design to the Triumph). Would love to hear your thoughts!

@RandomRobReviews 5 жыл бұрын

It’s really up to you, those are all really good options. There is a pros cons list you could make on them, or just go with what looks good to you.

@funnylittleazn 5 жыл бұрын

@@RandomRobReviews I think for me, the Monta is the better value for what I am looking for. I'm just concerned about how you g the brand is.

@RandomRobReviews 5 жыл бұрын

funnylittleazn Monta brand is good. Resale will take a bigger hit if you are a flipper

@flebrax 5 жыл бұрын

Where did you let it be serviced? I dont know if im allowed to post links here, but there is a pdf with prices from 2017 and its like the second google entry. The weird thing is, that i had found this list two years back on the SInn website, but cant find it there any more. Regarding to the list you got ripped off. Tell me if i can or should post the link.

@RandomRobReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Share it

@flebrax 5 жыл бұрын

@@RandomRobReviews Alright, I found the most actuell list from 2018: www.sinn.de/en/Download/Sinn_ServicePriceList_180901.pdf here is the list from 2017, prices went up, but over 400 is still too much. www.sinn.de/en/Download/Sinn_ServicePriceList_170828.pdf

@ivaylommm 3 жыл бұрын

I like the Arabic version but does the lume lasts throughout the night, because I’m wearing my watches while sleeping, I’m guessing the indices one is better in that regard...?

@getoffmylawn8986 3 жыл бұрын

I have an EZM3F, but the lume does definitely last all night. I'm guessing the 104 is about the same.

@gotzdonalies4217 3 жыл бұрын

Confirmed

@Bluefinger 4 жыл бұрын

do you happen to know if that is an aftermarket butterfly clasp? I cannot see an option to order it from the factory at the Sinn website. Thanks!

@valjean3141 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! I realize this response is late, but just in case others read this later - the butterfly clasp is from Sinn, not aftermarket. You can find it on WatchBuys website in the U.S. (It’s buried in the page for Sinn straps, but you have to scroll way down through all the straps to find it. Currently selling for 90 USD.)

@specialized41 5 жыл бұрын

Which model is the watch with green dial??

@shipmate3577 Ай бұрын

You can buy a new SW 200 for $250!!! Ripoff on maintenance

@tomdawgfishingfootball8448 3 жыл бұрын

Why are the numbers on the bezel going counter clockwise?

@watchesandcaps2566 3 жыл бұрын

It's a bi-directional countdown bezel.

@nenadcubric2663 3 жыл бұрын

Power Reserve in ETA?

@Seedavis397 7 ай бұрын

How often do these watches need to be serviced??

@RandomRobReviews 7 ай бұрын

Like any watch, I would say when it stops working. Most of us have many watches so it’s going to vary.

@Seedavis397 7 ай бұрын

@@RandomRobReviews is there not a recommended time frame??? I always heard 10 years .

@panorama4526 3 жыл бұрын

Watch is great, but the crappy clasp stops me from buying one...

@andyt6819 5 жыл бұрын

Selling my sinn on eBay to us buyers mine should be the cheapest

@danieldan759 5 жыл бұрын

Sinn or Cristopher Word c60?

@RandomRobReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Sinn

@darrellross8609 4 жыл бұрын

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@Boblw56 Жыл бұрын

You got ripped on service. Should be about 100-200 max.

@BiffTannenBTTF 5 жыл бұрын

That service price is outrageous for that movement. Should be $200 max.

@jfm562 5 жыл бұрын

Jim C have you held one?

@RandomRobReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Kinda what I thought, I think you can buy a new movement for about that.

@EEEEMMMMKKKK 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it has aluminium bezel ...

@Fnnggjji 5 жыл бұрын

That's way too expensive. 220 tops for the movement service. A new movement for a top grade is 290

@willisbcteoh9840 3 жыл бұрын

Ask for a quote first.

@commentjedi 5 жыл бұрын

😍😍

@surinder4430 6 ай бұрын

2024 and thiswatch is 1890 in america on bracelet. sadly its no longer a good buy

@cy9nvs 6 ай бұрын

Someone has got to pay for those utterly ridiculous energy prices in Germany... 🤷‍♂😂 I agree, that you're definitely paying a premium nowadays, but since they just announced the new clasp yesterday, I decided to order one anyway.

@surinder4430 6 ай бұрын

@@cy9nvs When will they have the new clasp?

@hibakihiey6055 2 жыл бұрын

WHAT RIP OFF 500!!!!! for serviceee the watch is 1500

@Xanduur 11 ай бұрын

Less than 20 seconds into the video, and I have to hear the word “colorway”. Please people just use the word colors!

@RandomRobReviews 11 ай бұрын

To identify different colors of same model “colorways” is the correct word. Often I use wrong word but it’s rare to be called out for using the correct word. 😁

@bajamedic 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely no day or date for me.

@jimgd4 5 жыл бұрын

Sooomeday....

@Tdawg0620 5 жыл бұрын

There is a $230 difference for the bracelet? They are already overpriced. The case itself isn't that interesting. The dial? Boring. I just dont see the value. Are the specs great? Sure. But as a whole, I cant say there's a wow factor at all.

@jfm562 5 жыл бұрын

Tyler Alvarez have you priced bracelets or links lately? $230 is very reasonable for an OEM bracelet. Seiko wants about $16 a link for my PADI Turtle plus 8.95 shipping. Tudor is $65 a link for the Black Bay. When I bought mine I didn’t buy it on the bracelet. I wish I had. Buying the bracelet now is more expensive.

@lenpowell6647 5 жыл бұрын

@@jfm562 That's a fair comment.Replacing a strap for a Casio with a genuine part is a small fortune compared to the price of watches original boxed up price.?

@Redonepunch 5 жыл бұрын

They seem overpriced because Sinn do a good job not letting them end up in the grey market. Also $230 for bracelet isn’t bad at all. It’s definitely a watch you need to see in person to appreciate and if you don’t think it’s worth it that’s fine too.

@jfm562 5 жыл бұрын

Len Powell it is frustrating. I have a huge wrist, 9.5", Seiko used to send 2-3 links to me for free. I did that with my Orange Monster almost ten years ago. Marathon does it too at no cost. I called Seiko last week looking for 2-3 links for my Turtle PADI's bracelet. It was going to be about $55 for three links shipped. I am not willing to pay that for three links. I bought it on eBay not an AD. I was told the AD could order me extra links at no cost. Don't even get me started on the $65 Tudor links! I'm sure Rolex is worse.

@lenpowell6647 5 жыл бұрын

@@jfm562 First off I doubt I would engage in a fist fight with you! Seriously though aftermarket sales with many items come at ludicrous cost! I guess it's capitalism but equally a rip off?I have heard horror stories just being allowed to buy links from a certain Rolex never mind the cost! I am an old fashioned guy that hates being ripped off and stripped of hard earned cash by companies that think they have you over a barrel! Cheers,Len.

@adolfot.8763 5 жыл бұрын

overrated, nothing that a Japanese does not have. Seiko, Orient and Citizen are self-manufactured, this is just a generic Swiss movement adorned like so many others.

@albertosalas285 5 жыл бұрын

Havinh a 6r15 is like playing lottery when it comes to accuracy. A big fan of Seikos but they have to improve their QC when it comes to movements

@speedzero7478 3 жыл бұрын

As a huge Seiko fan, I respectfully disagree. Sinn makes lovely flight watches, a genre Seiko isn't much involved in. Both brands have great history.