No problem!

I'm glad you like it. This thing is sketchy on a trail at 30 km, nothing high speed about that! LOL

How many miles have you put on the machine since then? Any wear and tear problems? I've only 400 miles on mine so far.

@@TrappingIncTV Probably 500 of some really rough narrow trails. Last year without a decent trailer the machine was backed of my pickup to drop to the ground. If anything would have failed that would have been the time. No problems!

At 73 I need all the handling help I can get!

That is a torture test for sure!

Don't I know that!

do u regret the tundra?

Love mine

Sandi says i can't wear it to the bank Christmas party anymore! LOL

I saw that on your video, you kit water with the VK? I put another 200 km on the Skandic today and it is much better behaved.

Cool had a tough day with the Tundra today

Its not a race but I only have a certain amount of time to check. For instance I'll start checking my line at 8:30 tonight. By the time I head home Sunday I'l have checked over 300 km (190 miles) of line. Throw in a little bit of good luck and video work and sleep gets in short supply in that time. I use the Argo as much and for as long as I can, tonight I'll do the short northern loop (63 km) in it and then tomorrow I'll get dressed up and switch 2 the snowmobile for the next 2 days. Cheers!

@Winston Dawe jeah maybe, but i have to be honest and say that looks do play a part in my decision and the vk is just hideous.

Two things could be up here. You may have bent one of the pogo mounts pushing the ski back in reference to the other. The machine will want to turn on the short side. To align I use a long straight edge along the side of the track to the front of the ski. Measure from straight edge to ski center front and back of ski. I like the toe out 1/4" check other side. You adjust toe on the tie rods. Loosed jam nuts on both ends of tie rod and turn the rod in the direction needed to correct the alignment.

We are trapping pretty much non stop! Leaving again in 2 hours.

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Decrease tippiness is exactly why I did this and it helped a bunch. It will help the Tundra as well although the rider has more influence on the 440 pound Tundra than on the 680 Skandic.

Very happy with it. It has made a big difference for me.

It made it more stable but it is harder on other components like your ski bushings things like that. It's not as good a solution as actually buying something with a sophisticated ski suspension. I still have this 2014 skandic and I have a 2018 Yamaha VK Pro 2. Which is best? Depends what you're doing. I like the Yamaha the most and so I drive at the most. I drive to scandic when conditions are a little on the edge and there might be some damage done

i don't know. It seems about halfc have no problems and half do and it seems to cover all the year models.

I have the limiter dropped two holes from factory. The suspension shock is cranked to the second last notch. It still handles like crap but much better than before. I like my VK way better

You are right about the bushings wearing out fast!

I just figured out why my bushings wore out. I did not adjust the limiter strap and suspension for the higher ski stance. This caused there to be a lot more weight and wear on my front end

It could I don't know but I guess time will tell. The machine was a bag of crap the way it was so no loss if something breaks I guess.

I dont really like some of the trail handling of this machine but in our deep snow no other machine compares. If I added these and maybe the stiffer pogo spring to improve the on trail characteristics I would be sold.

@@GoldCountryTrapping I think I need stiffer springs in the pogo stick as well. I'll do some research but I was amazed at just how soft the springs are stock. Those pogo sticks compress way to easy!

Yeah, the stiffer springs are supposed to keep it from trying to gator-roll on you. REvel Suspension has them for $99 per spring i think.

I'll check that out! "Gator roll" The perfect visual explanation of what the machine does!! LOL Thanks!

Did you realign your skis after installing the kit? I had to on mine , the kit casued way to much toe in and excessive darting. Those big ski skins are gone as well they cause terrible darting in the right conditions.

The machine comes with a goofy multi tool in the tool kit. It is a cheap stamped thing and i had to grind the prongs just a hair to make them fit.

Thanks, I have a tundra I’m doing this project on as well

The Skandic is much more stable, has hi and lo range and pulls a lot more. Having said that I wouldn't buy either again.

For me I had to take some weight off the skis. So I lengthened the front limiter strap and cranked the suspension up a notch. You have to lay the whale on its side to this.

@@TrappingIncTV tks for the info i have the new skandic 2021 wt would you recommend the ski skins with the widing kit

@@carloscurtis6965 I would not recommend the ski skins. I ran them on mine for 2 years and took them off and threw them away.

I still have it on. I think it is harder on the skis but I don't want to go back to factory. The Anti Christ still tries to kill me but less frequently with the kit in.

@@TrappingIncTV Thanks !

I'm glad you like your machine just the way it is! Here are my reasons for changing mine. The last feature that was important to me was the narrow ski stance of the Skandic and the tippiness! LOL I bought it IN SPITE of those factors. Narrow ski stance is meaningless on my trap line for maneuverability anywhere 34" will go so will 40" it just isn't a real thing. While you certainly could lean over a 480 pound Tundra with a 14" track and 32" ski stance, I can't budge the 650 pound Skandic with the 20" track and 34" stance. Not even close. I've had lots lecture me on how you have to be on the throttle and utilizing track speed and rotation .... blah, blah blah! I'm always pulling a 10 1/2' toboggan and about 200 pounds. Side hilling is a silly dream! The first time that big old toboggan pendulums down behind you and and pulls that machine over on you the lesson is learned. I creep along in low gear day after day. I have 10,000 km on the machine and I'm pretty familiar with what it will and won't do. If I were to buy another skidoo it would be the expedition now that they have high and low manual gearbox and wide tracks and great big W I D E ski stance! LOL Cheers!.

@@TrappingIncTV Actually i don't have a Tundra or Scandic. I did have a 2017 Arctic Cat XT GS, and that's one heavy machine! Over 800 lbs fully fueled. Great work sled, and i do take it in the bush, which is hilly and mounds everywhere, and i takes all I've got to get that thing over so it doesn't go where i don't want it too! I'd like a Tundra so i can break a trail for the Bearcat. It's much lighter and nimbler than the cat. Get too steep of a hill and the cat doesn't want to go up. Good thing there's a winch on the front lol! I did have an Elan when i was younger, so have experience with tippy sleds, and throwing my weight around.

I know that Bearcat very well! It is also the VK under the Yamaha badge. I put 2200 km on mine last season. Yes it is heavy but oh, so stable and rides so sweet!!!

Its better than it was for sure but not near as good as a modern suspension. I actually think getting rid of the wide ski skins will help me out on the instability.

I pick my Tundra up tomorrow I will have to see what it like. Thank you for replying and a very good video!

So far as I can tell they help stop the flipping problem I had but it certainly might be an alignment thing. When I checked after the install the alignment was over 4" toe in! I only wish I had checked that before I did the extensions.

@@TrappingIncTV How did you check the alignment on your skis? I have a 2015 Skandic (with the same ski skins) and suspect the same problem. Also considering buying the widening kit. Your video is pulling me in that direction.

That is too bad that is not available there. Have a great season!

My Skandic ruined several sets of the ski bushings long before I put the widener on. For me the worst was the ski skins, I had to take them off they were dangerous on the lake with a crust or drifts!

@@TrappingIncTV on your recommendation I've just took my ski skins off see if it improves

I drag a 11' x 40" toboggan all the time. I don't go mach 1, I can't. The 20" track and 200 pound toboggan make the "pulling an edge" a fantasy. It still tries to kill me everyday.

this is my back up mahine

No argument here!

LOL! I drove the Argo on the north loop last night, Was back at the cabin by 1 am. Today and tomorrow I need to make 240 km to finish the check so I switch to the snomo.