When I see my support typing "can i mid?" in the lobby then I know im fucked

I’ve gotta say, the concepts that Skillcapped talks about are actually pretty profound. Excellent content!

As an enchanter player myself, I noticed that that's how you know when they're not really good at the champion. Enchanter players usually play like this because they want to play as a shield/heal focused character in the game, but they don't know thay enchanters have an insane pressure early, especially champions like Soraka. Almost every enchanter is a lane bully if you play it properly, but in their mind that's not what they want to do, otherwise they'd be playing mages. The enchanter champions feels too squishy and weak so they don't realize that landing their skills early in lane can be devastating for the enemy. It's a role that needs to play very different in different moments of the game.

I think I know one between the worst types: the one who's playstyle is completely contrary to the champ they play, but decide to play the champ right at the exact wrong time...

it took me 10 years of playing to realize and acknowledge this as a concept. barely anyone talks about this and yet reading players is probably the most important skill you need in order to climb

Its nice to watch as a support player too. For us the same concept is working very well. Nice to see it from the other side and learn from it

I guess the same rule applies to all roles. From a jungle perspective, identifying your ADC as a spammer or cautious farmer can give you information to play around with. For hard shovers/vulnerable laners, you can expect to have to countergank. For a Safe wave controller, you can take your time and engage around enemy cooldowns.

As a (bad) support player, this is definitly what i find the most interesting in playing supp : what kind of adc are you playing with ? It changes almost everygame, even if sometimes, we just can't match.

Thats the most helpful video for me yet. All those perfect Grandmaster-Tactics like contesting wave for first level2 all-in do not matter if you have an AFK supp/adc for example. Just do the worse play to keep synergy, etc. Those were perfect examples as well. Thanks

I've had this moment of clarity in games before... I play support and push up, trade and watch my ADC chill... that is the moment I'm like... "OH" you like that huh, aight, ima chill back and let you play your way and I'll adjust to you... The moment they lose their fucking minds, I'm out of lane lol

I have another tip to not get frustrated with your random support, do not play adc.

What about the supports that go mid for the whole game after dying to an enemy invade

This is so true. I’ve met 2 Soraka main with a million mastery and lv.7 The first Soraka is trying to use every single spell to help me and the second one is not only do nothing, but she’s refuse to help the other when they in danger and when we win the big team fight. She said that we alive because of her. I’m just wtf are you typing. 😂 Maybe it’s about her mindset of each game? Sometimes I wonder why these 2 different Soraka can get the same lv.7 and a million mastery.

As a new adc player, ive learned the supps in my elo r either super aggressive to the point where they just go in and im not ready and die or play back by tower making it to where i cant push up and farm without being solo killed

Can u do this reversed? I mean i am a support main and i always get inter adcs

See this as Supp with ADC's to, ADC won't follow up and just farm, won't rotate to OBJ, etc. or worst, they flame for non-meta supps or require you to play their way or else. (Supper common with Trist/Sam players as they want to all in always, and hate non-engage supps).

I had a sion top yesterday who didnt push or even help teamfights. Trust me there are plenty of players with 0 skill and still hangin out in the same elo just by spending lots lf time in league

Understandable. But as the same as my support giving 200 point in trading and nothing in macro or vision. I too have a given point and adapting to my weak point dosent help. Hector has a 1000 in each part and can look good in kind of style. What should i do then? Getting flame because i play a style im not good at or getting flame because i dont follow bad call? Life as an adc. Part 2334

I started thinking I would see more of the same... I was impressed, I had never thought about it and it makes perfect sense.

My problem in lower Elo is I think I’ve maybe played with a support champion 2 times. They’re usually playing some midlane mage or something weird like nasus. So I’ve just switched to playing Sivir and I wave clear for days. Problem is in team fights I have absolutely no help. Cause no support. But I’ve been slowly climbing this way regardless.

At this point in league my issue is even if my lane is positive bot theres always a jumgler or top lane feeding someone who shouldnt be fed and the whole game goes down even if theyre shut down 😂 but great tips for the lane appreciate it 🎉

I always tell my support "YOU'LL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING IN LIFE" when they feed. Then once they respawn "But to our team you are a part of our everything when we win this game"

ahaha, tuesday night, what a LoL specific description!

Do you have a video on runes, secondaries and so on. I'm new and I have no idea what they are?

I've gotta say, i have learned an insanely important "trick" with this video. Thank you very much.

So the video basically says "pll in low elo have different strenghts, so you have to be strong at everything to be able to play with everyone" So you need to be a really good played with masters or above skills to climb from low elo

What I get is a Morgana perma W'ing the wave vs Leona/Draven, miss timing her E, dying 24/7 and blaming me for it. Well, at least I could see some things I can apply to my games, thank you.

What about the games when ur team lead and then they just stop play and are just dying 1 by 1 in our jungle while enwmy team together takes all the objectives? Or when your aggressive type of player support/adc ich choosing fights that cannot be won? Trilion times I have played enchanter support with supoort items and end up with the mlst dmg dealth to enemy in game. Also with best warding score. And yet we lost. And the best option when you win bot with your support you had to adjust to him and after that 7/0 offtank toplaner kills you like you are a minion and you cant do shit about it because every single champ has now gap closer...

I don't understand what 7/8 of those stats on the octagon is supposed to represent in game

What’s the skill of my afk lux that is consistently q-ing the wave and losing me bunch of farm over time while refusing to base at 1hp just to get aa once under zurret and dies?

Does this work in the reverse?

actual good video lol did NOT expect that

A random criticism, but I actually really liked the music in this video! It’s good to hear things switched up.

What if this happens in higher elo where your enemy lane is actually competent and adjusting to your support's "playstyle" leads to losing the lane (either forcing lost fights or playing passively and not being able to farm / getting poked too much)

Cool calm collective wins as adc, this approach helped me climb from iron4 to silver just cs. And wait patiently for the right moment ftw

Most of my supports put all their points into inting.

So it should work the other way around right?

i will categorize this taric as a warwick player

I had a support feed 5 kills before the 5 min mark. Next game, passive Support so I let the enemy slow push a couple waves under tower because I could not contest alone and my support decided to raom in that instant leaving me to try to farm 2 waves under tower while a Jhin, Blitz is blasting me under the tower. This was a Plat support... I think Support is one of the most misunderstood roles. It wouldnt be as bad if it wasn't every game that my support is trash and the enemy support is not.

Do you have a video with advice on what to do with the "afk Brand" type of support? The sort of Brand player that sits 20 yards back and never even attempts to throw out any skills, literally having no presence or pressure (even the Amumu in the video was at least positioned in a way where he was a threat even if he didn't do anything). I can adapt to most types of support players but I have no idea how to play with that.

How do you know that you will hit lvl 2?

Finally this is literally what is making me get stuck adc we just want to play smart at all cost so we can farm safely

As a very aggressive tank player in most games, I'm extremely frustrated in Mobas when I engage and people don't follow ahah, I have a feeling it's gonna be the same in League when i get better and start playing tank aswell more and more

With that being said delete yummi from the game please

Most of the time I focus on the enemy champs and help my adc feed to the point when I go help jg the adv can solo both of em

While I do think that generally matching your support's playstyle does help, if you are stuck with someone just hiding behind you in lane, it is just doomed. You either don't match the playstyle, try to force things and fail like you said... or you stay back as well, letting the enemy push. While this seems like a decent option at first, it is basically just conceding the lane, giving their bot (probably unnecessary) prio, making life in mid and jungle a living hell. On the flip side i had supports going full ham on the enemy botlane while i was playing jhin and we just couldn't win a dps-race. This videos tip implies that just following that up helps, but it usually ended up badly, since the matchup just wasn't suited for that. So from my personal experience, I totally can not relate or agree with this point made in this video. What I said might only apply to high Diamong/low Master. Maybe in other elos the free prio might not be used by enemies as much. Or maybe I don't apply it right. Anyways still high quality video, thanks for putting those out for free. I learned a lot from them and if this vid helps anyone climb, hey who am i to judge :P

Is this narrator Ezreal's voice actor? Dude, definitely sounds like him.

sometimes you get a yuumi who sits afk on you, not even a q to speak of

This is such an obvious non-obvious thought. Thanks!

Thanks, maybe that's what I love about ADC. You need to play together to win

What about support that who doesnt stop dying D:

I mean, in the mumu support game, why not just ask them if they are okay with engaging? Pings also work.

"the support you're playing with is the same elo as you" KZfaqrs constantly sending challenger players in to bronze:

good video

BROOOO WHEN I SUP AMUMU , WE ALWAYS WIN 😂😂😂. He has stun. That's like one of the most OP things about him

Well if you dont try to force early and wait for support to engage... well you'll press tab at 6 min and mid jung and enemy top are all feed af and you cannot even fight them. So yeah cool concept but arent applicable in real scenario

Im the "fuck it, we ball" kind of support

In my last game my Support was 0 2 min 1:30. He thought it would be smart to invade alone... Twice

yo do a guide for supp plz

Amen

That Amumu man....

I fucking hate "AFK" supports, so it's so nice to know how to best play around them!

1:45 is a lie. Riot August confirmed that diamond midlaner may not be equal in terms of skill when compared to diamond support, it's more like system tries to balance supports in both teams lol. Sadly we don't have different ranks for different roles in game. Again, diamond support != diamond midlaner.

Most of the time i get supports wanting me to engage and wondering why i am so bad at it. Then flame me for not going in or starting something.

How do u stay sane being a slave to ur supports playstyle when u can just play a solo lane and have fun lol ADC main since season 4 and im having a blast in lanes where i decide everything. Would only adc if i have a support im duoed with that matches my playstyle

What if my support goes mid all game

A standard Tuesday night LMAO 🤣

Problem is, none of these players are supp players, they just got autofilled and then its up to the fact if they took their prescription today or not.... after 100 adc games these season i queued 1 garen top and actually played my first game of this season.

When I see my support pick ashe or twitch, I know I'm fucked

instructions unclear my nautilus keeps dying over and over landing hooks on the wall and blaming me for it, at 0/3 he goes midlane and runs it.

"You should not tilt about", my stomach just screaming USE THE FKIN QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

Just add voice chat and willa be no problem

If you cant dodge skills shots, you dont have mechanics, cant 2v1 and outplay 4 man dives give up on reaching high elo with adc. Your support is either the one that stands 10 meters behind you, or the support that dies once in lane and roams rest of game. Rank doesnt matter with support until D2+ (as other have mentioned in the comments). Half of the accounts are elo inflated. In some games you are playing 3v1 because support is actively screwing up wave management.

Me (playing alistar with phaserush) : i go in with "w" "q" "e" and run away. My adc: ooga booga have to save alistar => Dies or ADC: OOGA BOOGA alistar engages so this is fight he wants => losing the trade. ADC: useless support. Me: after disengaging => 100& hp while i poked them a little. I could do this without any help. conclusion i can't play phase rush alistar because it actively ruins synergy. I have not seen any compent adc understanding that i just want to play as a poke champ (in certain situations). It's truly sad, i can have very high winrates if my adc simply would stop dying for an engage which wasn't meant to be an all in.

All they have to do is buff gradually adc in lower elos and bring an authentication system for preventing the smurfs/boosters. I don’t have to play like a Diamond just to have some sort of influence in a Gold elo match. No wonder finding a match as an adc only tooks a min because no one else plays it

Would be nice if my ADCs would give me some idea of what they want, instead of doing what appears to be random stuff from my viewpoint and then flaming me for not being perfect for whatever it is they wanted.

8:16 ya sure you guys aint low elo? that q is blocked

pyke main so if the adcs ass i leave lane 😭

i tried to follow the guilds, but It doesn't work. Enemy just always find a way to counter these tips and tricks

One tip. Click the fucking lantern.

Once I tried to play support... now I play only mid cuz it is much easier (I don't even have a rank)

The problem isn't bad support mains, is the autofilled players who almost never play support and don't understand how the lane is different from other lanes.

my problem with sups is that they are not going to play janna / lulu rather lux or morgana without poking or just morgana E it is really not enough in a laneingphase when i stay under my tower my jungler spampings me with question marks. then i run down.

I can’t tell if this video gaslit me into thinking I’m a good adc and my supports are just bad

reminded me that if I feel like adc I’ll play ranged top :)

If that amumu was my support I would of called him useless that he's taking my xp and I'd be better off alone 👍

0-11 supports put all points in to boosting.

Try this from iron 4 playing adc solo, then ill subcribe to this service

what you do with a bad adc?

This is the longest winded explanation I have ever seen for telling ADCs "play around your support they set the tone of the lane." There is nothing worse as a support than when you know you have the advantage or even traded to get it, and your ADC doesn't follow up and throws it away. The whole reason I learned to roam was because I kept getting passive ADCs who simply refused to take the easy setups.

If they are in your elo, they are just as good as you. But not necessarily in the same things

Can confirm adapting is a legit strat. Recently I got an autofill first time amumu support who wouldn't engage when I setup a freeze as jhin but randomly decides to run straight into the basing enemy bot laners when I'm stuck under tower last hitting a 9-10 minion wave. I adapted to his skill level and let him die multiple times thereby feeding the enemy ADC so my team would ff at 15 and I can hope for a non autofill sup next game. Truly a wonderful strategy.

Boring your enemies to death is a viable strategy

Na bro these support players be inting most games 😂

Haha 😂😆 this guide is great IF they aren't boosted

For once, this is just plain bullshit. 2nd exemple, opponents are very passive considering they basically play 2v1. That doesn't happen much. + they don't really explain how they got out of 1st perma push during 1st exemple. Usually the only way I found (certainly not the best of course) is to wait having him die to obvious gank, despite having used the push opportunity to deepward and spamming pings.

"Everyone has different strengths" um most player have no strengths 😂

And then you have players that think they can swap to support for the first time in diamond because they had a bad run on their main champ and role and they're just clearly not up to caliber but played it anyway cuz they're upset. That or autofills, and then it's doomed. Pray the jungler or your solo lanes are good and play for other lanes I guess lol.

im starting to think ill cancel my subscription to skill capped, videos always get released first in youtube, lol

What about when the ADC is the one who does what supports did in this video? A Draven that doesn't agreesivates, or a Vayne who wants to all-in all the time? Is this still valid? (Legitimate question, I want to know)